Re: [libreoffice-users] Volunteers for Documentation

[toki]

On 26/03/2016 23:37, anne-ology wrote:

>> These guides do generate a sundry, but useful, amount of income for the TDF 
>> and wider LibreOffice community.
>   [huh ???]

The slightly inaccurate, but easier to explain answer, is that dead tree
guides are printed and distributed by Lulu.(^1) Consequently, they are
available on Amazon(^2), and a few other Internet only sites.

Periodically Jean publishes a financial report, that says how many
copies were sold, how much revenue was generated, and where that revenue
went.

^1: Personally, I think that ODF should go directly to Ingram Express.
Whilst both the initial cost, and annual cost would be slightly higher,
that is more than offset by both the greater distribution presence that
Ingram offers, and slush pile quality reputation that Lulu currently enjoys.

^2: Whilst indie authors have a fascination with "the amazon strategy",
that strategy was formulated for specific fiction genres. Currently, the
Amazon strategy only works with CreateSpace, not Ingram Express. Were
Amazon to retweak their ordering algorithm to favour Ingram Express over
CreateSpace, using Ingram Express might, once again, become a viable
part of the  Amazon Strategy.

jonathon


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot assign template to existing writer odt file

[toki]

On 26/03/2016 11:43, Tom Davies wrote:

> 2.  Btw does anyone happen to know if all OpenOffice templates held on their 
> sites have been copied to the LibreOffice site?

They haven't and at least some of them probably won't be, due to the
license that they are distributed under.

> Does anyone know if it might be possible to convert MS Office templates so 
> that they could be used by both us and by
OpenOffice people?

The first issue one runs into, when converting templates for MSO, is the
license that the MSO template is distributed under.

The second issue that on runs into, is a reliance upon VBA.

> the blockers people occasionally cite as a reason they couldn't possibly 
> migrate away from MS.

You'd need to probe more deeply, but my sense is that the usual reason
templates are cited as a reason to not move, is because of a major
financial investment in those templates, coupled with a lack of existing
templates that provide the same functionality for LibO, AOO, etc.

By major financial investment, I'm referring to templates that
individually have an MSRP of US$100, or more.

jonathon


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Volunteers for Documentation

[anne-ology]

   Since I have been/am an editor, seems to be right up my alley ...
  and I'd be glad to help - just let me know what-, when-, how-ever,

   [further comments below]



From: Tom Davies 
Date: Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 7:14 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Volunteers for Documentation
To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 


Hi :)
If you have an hour, or few, per month - or if you could help during
occasional holidays - or 'just' as a "one off" = YOU could be a big help.

People who are new to LibreOffice/OpenOffice are a HUGE help as
proof-readers = helping the documentation make more sense to noobs, or even
just helping reduce the numbers of 'obvious' errors.  Sadly such 'noobs'
learn so much so quickly, almost by "osmosis", that they quickly become
quite expert.  Hence why there is always a need for more new people. :)

   [helping others with these 'glorified typewriters' has kept me in the
know on these machines  ;-) ]

Their team is so small that even a little help often has a big impact.

If you have no professional/voluntary experience with any sort of
documentation or writing project then this could be a good way of getting
some insights and gaining some experience - or it could be just a good way
to 'relax' by doing something a bit different for a while.

If you do have some experience then please let the team know, so that they
have some idea of how much they can just leave you to get on with it.

Either way it takes a while to get used to their systems and for them to
register you so that you can work on the "Published Guides".  These guides
do generate a sundry, but useful, amount of income for the TDF and wider
LibreOffice community.

   [huh ???]

Right now there is a HUGE need for people willing to proof-read the latest
Guide/Handbook for Base, the database part of LibreOffice.  It needs people
who don't use and don't know anything about Base.

   [that's me - I've never used Base]

If you do have knowledge or experience of databases in general or Base in
particular then you would be a great help for the next stage.  After
proof-reading is the "review" stage to check the technical accuracy of the
guide/handbook.

Regards and good luck from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Programming guide for LibreOffice 4.1

[John Meyer]

Thanks to all who provided the information.  I've been busy crunching 
out this project and haven't had time to reply.


On 3/6/2016 9:14 AM, Piet van Oostrum wrote:

John Meyer wrote:

  > I'm trying to write a macro for LibreOffice 4.1.   Which programming
  > guide should I use?
  >
OpenOffice.org Macros Explained (OOME) by Andrew Pitonyak.

OpenOffice.org is not the same as LibreOffice, but for most uses they are close 
enough.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] New LibreOffice Book

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
A few years ago the Documentation Team did a lot of trialling converters to
ePub format(s?) but none were quite up to the job.

At best quite a bit of tinkering had to be done before or/and after the
initial conversion.  I'm fairly sure Dan was one of, quite possibly THE
main person, working on trying to get the conversions as smooth as
possible.  For those who don't know, Dan has many years experience in the
professional publishing industry (as have many in the tiny Documentation
Team) as well as some really great work in the Documentation Team.

If anyone has had some success, particularly in the last couple of years,
in converting anything to ePub then right now could be a good time for 'us'
to have another bash at it.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 26 March 2016 at 01:39, Dave Stevens  wrote:

> Quoting Dan Lewis :
>
> On 03/25/2016 05:22 PM, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
>>
>>> Bruce Byfield wrote:
>>>
 On Friday, March 25, 2016 01:51:25 PM James Knott wrote:

> On 03/25/2016 01:42 PM, Dave Liesse wrote:
>
>> This is my busy season at work so I haven't had a lot of time, yet,
>> but I downloaded the PDF version and took a quick look at a couple of
>> chapters I need the most.  I'm quite impressed.  Good job!
>>
>
> An epub version would be nice.  I find they work better on tablets
> than pdf.
>

 I hope an epub version is coming. However, porting highly-formatted
 material
 to .epub format can be difficult, so it's going to take some time.

 If anybody has any advice, I would appreciate hearing it.

>>>
>>> Calibre  is an open source ebook manager
>>> which can import various formats, including ODT, and convert to various
>>> formats, including EPUB. I haven't used it much; about the most I've done
>>> is convert a couple of CHM (Windows help) files to AZW3 to read on a
>>> Kindle, which seemed to work reasonably well. On the Kindle, images are
>>> scaled to fit on the page, but a press-and-hold allows them to be enlarged
>>> to full screen and zoomed in further to see detail. I don't know how well
>>> it does with complex documents, but may be worth trying.
>>>
>>>  I have used calibre to convert Getting Started with Base from ODT
>> to ePUB format.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>
> I used calibre just now to convert to epub. You can read it all right, but
> there's a lot of formatting that doesn't make it.
>
> D
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[libreoffice-users] Volunteers for Documentation

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
If you have an hour, or few, per month - or if you could help during
occasional holidays - or 'just' as a "one off" = YOU could be a big help.

People who are new to LibreOffice/OpenOffice are a HUGE help as
proof-readers = helping the documentation make more sense to noobs, or even
just helping reduce the numbers of 'obvious' errors.  Sadly such 'noobs'
learn so much so quickly, almost by "osmosis", that they quickly become
quite expert.  Hence why there is always a need for more new people. :)

Their team is so small that even a little help often has a big impact.

If you have no professional/voluntary experience with any sort of
documentation or writing project then this could be a good way of getting
some insights and gaining some experience - or it could be just a good way
to 'relax' by doing something a bit different for a while.

If you do have some experience then please let the team know, so that they
have some idea of how much they can just leave you to get on with it.

Either way it takes a while to get used to their systems and for them to
register you so that you can work on the "Published Guides".  These guides
do generate a sundry, but useful, amount of income for the TDF and wider
LibreOffice community.


Right now there is a HUGE need for people willing to proof-read the latest
Guide/Handbook for Base, the database part of LibreOffice.  It needs people
who don't use and don't know anything about Base.

If you do have knowledge or experience of databases in general or Base in
particular then you would be a great help for the next stage.  After
proof-reading is the "review" stage to check the technical accuracy of the
guide/handbook.

Regards and good luck from
Tom :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Cannot assign template to existing writer odt file

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
1a.  Could someone post a "feature request" (using the bug-reporting
system) to suggest some sort of converter so that old templates can easily
converted to fit the newer system?  (or have i misunderstood about newer vs
older template systems?)

1b.  Even if the newer system can cope with reading the older templates it
would still be better to have the templates converted to the newer system
for the future, of course.  Also it would be really great if it were
possible to automatically upgrade all existing templates at;
http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center


2.  Btw does anyone happen to know if all OpenOffice templates held on
their sites have been copied to the LibreOffice site?  Would it be easy to
find out?  IF it is easy then would it be reasonably easy to hunt
OpenOffice templates done by 3rd parties and add them to our collection
too?


3.  Going off on a tangent - does anyone know if it might be possible to
convert MS Office templates so that they could be used by both us and by
OpenOffice people?  If so then it might be a great opportunity for TDF to
collaborate with Apache to the benefit of both projects to remove one of
the blockers people occasionally cite as a reason they couldn't possibly
migrate away from MS.

Regards from
Tom :)



On 25 March 2016 at 12:09, Eric Beversluis 
wrote:

>
>
> On 03/25/2016 07:05 AM, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 16:09 +0700, Ken Heard wrote:
>>
>>> I cannot assign a template to an existing writer odt file using the
>>> menu item File->Templates->Assign template (current document).
>>> Whenever I select a template from the list which pops up by a double
>>> click, the following message is returned "Property or method not
>>> found: Document Info".  The document in question does have a
>>> Properties window but it does not name the template selected, nor is
>>> the selected template installed.
>>>
>> Same issue here - I can no longer assign a template to an existing
>> document.  This very much impinges on the functionality of Master
>> Documents when working with very large [book like] documents.
>>
>> Version: 5.0.4.2
>> Build ID: 00m0(Build:2)
>> Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8)
>>
>> Has anyone figured anything else?  Is the support for features like
>> masters documents fading out of LibreOffice?
>>
>> In my Fedora 22 Version 4, there is no "File->Templates->Assign template
> (current document)" option.
> What seems to work for me is to go to Styles and Formatting -> New Style
> from Selection -> Load Styles.
> The "From File" option at "Load Styles" works nicely if the style isn't a
> template.
> Does this still work in LO Writer 5?
>
> Version: 4.4.7.2
> Build ID: 4.4.7.2-4.fc22
> Locale: en_US.UTF-8
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