Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Brochure printing doesn't scale to page

2016-11-24 Thread Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster 

On 11/24/2016 06:09 AM, CVAlkan wrote:

Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I'd love to hear what other regular visitors
to this forum think:

Paper Sizes and printing in LibreOffice is such a puzzle to me when I do
anything other than single-sided straight documents (which I don't do often)
that my regular practice is to always export to pdf (which has worked very
well for some time now) and print from the Acrobat Reader (which still works
in Linux in spite of what you hear). As usual, I learned some more from
Brian Barker's reply.


Are you having issues with double-sided printing?  I had problems with 
an Epson Workforce printer that no one could figure out. Later, when the 
next version[s] of Ubuntu came out, the problem was fixed.  The Epson 
drivers did not "play well" with that older version of Linux.  Around 
that same time Linux Mint would not see my networked printers - wireless 
or wired.  Since the Ubuntu version I was running on my main desktop saw 
those printers.


That type of issues with LO not able to get the printer to duplex 
stumped everyone.



Whenever I open up the forum and see Brian's name, I immediately go to such
postings first, as his explanations are almost always clear and informative,
and often cover techniques not mentioned at all in Help (poor) or the
documentation (well done, but incomplete or at least not-comprehensive).

So my question is: who all thinks that Brian should gather up all his past
postings and edit them into a collection of "LibreOffice Tips and Tricks"
organized by subject - perhaps even limited to just Writer and/or Calc (or
two separate docs). I imagine many folks would pay a reasonable fee for such
a book (this would not be competition for Bruce Byfield's "Designing with
LibreOffice" book, but complementary).

Any thoughts, anyone?

Yes

There is always a need for better and better help documentation. The key 
is getting and keeping the help instructions in a language that the 
basic, new, non-technical, users can understand.  I been working with 
computers since before the first PC desktops came out. I saw all of the 
changes that made the computers go from refrigerator size to pocket sized.


Sometimes I cannot understand the help instructions I read here. Now 
that I survived a 3rd small stroke, it is getting even harder.


For me I do not use even a tenth of what Writer does, and use even less 
for Calc. Impress and Base are not used, or very rarely.


So. . . . having the help files, like the books, would be a good idea to 
have them separated by LO module.  We have a "getting started guide[s]" 
and then books dedicated to one module.


Having a FAQ help book based on what worked here, would be great.  A lot 
of work, but great.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Line spacing changed.

2016-11-24 Thread Virgil Arrington 
I've played a little with your two files. I printed page 3 of each PDF 
file and compared the two. On my printouts, the line spacing was 
identical until the second line of the first bullet of section 1.1.7. At 
that point, one started getting tighter.

This was the first paragraph on the page with a bullet. As I looked at 
the rest of the page, the line spacing between the two was the same in 
all paragraphs except the bulleted paragraphs. So, it appears that 
something in those particular paragraphs is causing the discrepancy.

I then installed 5.2 on my Windows partition, and loaded in a 42 page 
document that I had created in 5.1. All was well in terms of line 
spacing and pagination. My document wasn't nearly as involved as yours, 
so that could explain a part of it.

I do think, however, that your issue is in your bulleted paragraphs.

Good luck.

Virgil


On 11/24/2016 7:38 AM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> Issue is also open on the BZ tracker as  tdf#104135
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Struggling with Hebrew in LO

2016-11-24 Thread jonathon 
On 24/11/16 10:35, CVAlkan wrote:

> What's the program and language you're looking at?

FontMatrix, and C++, respectively.

> But consider this my encouragement for whatever that's worth; I'm also
> willing to experiment with whatever you come up with if you need another

I cloned it to my GitHub space, and then cloned it on my system here.
I'll merge my changes onto the version on my GitHub space.  That way,
the original stays "pure", but people that want to risk their system
with my programming skills, can try it out.

jonathon

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Line spacing changed.

2016-11-24 Thread V Stuart Foote 
Issue is also open on the BZ tracker as  tdf#104135
  



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Line spacing changed.

2016-11-24 Thread CVAlkan 
If you're up for experimenting, save the altered document as either an fodt
or pdf, and then check to see what fonts are actually included in those.
With fodt, open the file in a text editor - not a word processor; you'll be
able to look through the style listings to see what fonts are actually used.
For pdf files, Acrobat Reader lets you see a list of embedded fonts.

Depending on the number of fonts used in your document, this may or may not
help you figure out if Writer has decided to substitute one or more of those
fonts (it gives no indication in the program that it has done so). Also be
aware that if LibreOffice replaced the version of some existing font on your
system, that could also explain what is happening. Look at the dates on the
font files being used (they're in different locations depending on the OS,
whether they're installed just for you or for all users, etc. so I can't
help you there). Since you likely don't know what dates were on the font
files before the LO update, this won't really tell you anything unless the
date stands out as being inconsistent with your original install (and later
than that date).

And - if absolutely necessary, you can edit the style (assuming you're using
styles) to set a fixed line spacing (Format > Paragraph > Indents & Spacing
> Line Spacing > Fixed - the box will show what is actually in use, and you
can play with this setting to see if it forces line spacing back to where it
used to be). This is NOT RECOMMENDED because of side effects, but might get
you out of an immediate jam until you can figure out what's going on.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Brochure printing doesn't scale to page

2016-11-24 Thread CVAlkan 
Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I'd love to hear what other regular visitors
to this forum think:

Paper Sizes and printing in LibreOffice is such a puzzle to me when I do
anything other than single-sided straight documents (which I don't do often)
that my regular practice is to always export to pdf (which has worked very
well for some time now) and print from the Acrobat Reader (which still works
in Linux in spite of what you hear). As usual, I learned some more from
Brian Barker's reply.

Whenever I open up the forum and see Brian's name, I immediately go to such
postings first, as his explanations are almost always clear and informative,
and often cover techniques not mentioned at all in Help (poor) or the
documentation (well done, but incomplete or at least not-comprehensive).

So my question is: who all thinks that Brian should gather up all his past
postings and edit them into a collection of "LibreOffice Tips and Tricks"
organized by subject - perhaps even limited to just Writer and/or Calc (or
two separate docs). I imagine many folks would pay a reasonable fee for such
a book (this would not be competition for Bruce Byfield's "Designing with
LibreOffice" book, but complementary).

Any thoughts, anyone?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Struggling with Hebrew in LO

2016-11-24 Thread CVAlkan 
A couple questions ...

What's the program and language you're looking at? Even though I doubt I
could assist, I'd still like to be able to read through what already exists
in a never-ending quest to get a handle on this subject (which is far more
complex than I originally envisioned, although I'm very impressed with what
things have been done since the days of 8 bits).

But consider this my encouragement for whatever that's worth; I'm also
willing to experiment with whatever you come up with if you need another
pair or eyes.

Regards ...

Frank



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