[libreoffice-users] Re: Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-27 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Tim

Le 2016-11-27 à 18:02, Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster a écrit :


Does CentOS 6.8 have access to the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package?

This package includes Arial and Times New Roman and many of the core
fonts you get with a Windows install.  I use the DEB package, but
hopefully there is a RPM package as well.

On my main laptop, I have Arial in "normal" style, monospaced,
condensed, narrow, and rounded font sets.

Actually, I have over 180 fonts in my ".font"folder, and have over 14GB
of font files on my "file server".



No need to add fonts, LibreOffice will substitute quite easily with the 
Liberation family of fonts which are pretty well identical to Arial, the 
same with Times font. No need to install any MS fonts if you don't need 
to. The fonts shipped with LibreOffice are such that they will offer the 
largest success with respect to interoperability with fonts.


Marc


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Re: [libreoffice-users] "Today" in calc

2016-11-27 Thread Remy Gauthier
Hello,

You could also refer to this post:

https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=45=30071 

I believe it describes a way to do what you are looking for. Basically
they describe a way to trigger a macro that monitors a range of cells
and that performs a specific operation when something is changed.

Rémy Gauthier.

Le dimanche 27 novembre 2016 à 23:57 +, Brian Barker a écrit :
> At 07:04 27/11/2016 -0500, William Drescher wrote:
> > (2nd posting, it appears the first disappeared in cyberia)
> 
> Both messages presumably awaited moderation. Your first arrived 47 
> seconds after your second.
> 
> > When I update the data in a spreadsheet I need to also update the 
> > one of two cells "date data sent" or "date data received." I can't 
> > figure out a way of doing that automagically so I have a field in 
> > the header set to TODAY() and I copy and paste that into the row. 
> > > > Plain pasting doesn't work as that will paste the function, not
the 
> > > > value. Paste Special works but is a lot of clicks. Can anyone
think 
> > of a better way to do this.
> 
> Right-click | Paste Only > | Number?
> 
> If you prefer, you can find Paste Only under Edit in Tools | 
> Customise... | Keyboard and bind it to an unused keyboard shortcut.
> 
> I trust this helps.
> 
> Brian Barker
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] "Today" in calc

2016-11-27 Thread Brian Barker

At 07:04 27/11/2016 -0500, William Drescher wrote:

(2nd posting, it appears the first disappeared in cyberia)


Both messages presumably awaited moderation. Your first arrived 47 
seconds after your second.


When I update the data in a spreadsheet I need to also update the 
one of two cells "date data sent" or "date data received." I can't 
figure out a way of doing that automagically so I have a field in 
the header set to TODAY() and I copy and paste that into the row. 
Plain pasting doesn't work as that will paste the function, not the 
value. Paste Special works but is a lot of clicks. Can anyone think 
of a better way to do this.


Right-click | Paste Only > | Number?

If you prefer, you can find Paste Only under Edit in Tools | 
Customise... | Keyboard and bind it to an unused keyboard shortcut.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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[libreoffice-users] today's date in calc

2016-11-27 Thread william drescher
As I work I need to paste today's date into a cell every time I 
update a row.  My first approach is to put the today() function 
into a cell and then copy/paste it.  That doesn't work as I don't 
want to past the function.  I can paste special which works but 
is cumbersome.


I am telling myself that there MUST be a simpler way.  Can anyone 
suggest one ?


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[libreoffice-users] "Today" in calc

2016-11-27 Thread william drescher

(2nd posting, it appears the first disappeared in cyberia)

When I update the data in a spreadsheet I need to also update the 
one of two cells "date data sent" or "date data received."


I can't figure out a way of doing that automagically so I have a 
field in the header set to TODAY() and I copy and paste that into 
the row.  Plain pasting doesn't work as that will paste the 
function, not the value.  Paste Special works but is a lot of clicks.


Can anyone think of a better way to do this.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-27 Thread Tim---Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 11/27/2016 04:37 PM, Charles-H. Schulz wrote:

Hello,

H. @ 2016-11-27 19:00 GMT:


On 11/20/2016 03:13 PM, Ricardo wrote:

El 2016-11-20 14:45, Virgil Arrington escribió:



Since Markdown is a pure text file with formatting marks inserted, you
could easily edit such a file with LO. It sounds like what you're asking
is a way to convert the Markdown file to a LO format. I'm not sure of a
direct way of doing that. You might try Pandoc, an online file converter.



Pandoc can be installed on any system, but only recent versions support ODT, so 
you need to look with version if offered by CentOS

http://pandoc.org/

Regards,
Ricardo


I have installed pandoc and tried to converted two markdown documents to ODT 
opening them in LibreOffice  4.3.7 under CentOS 6.8.

It seems Pandoc modifies the LO styles, setting fonts to Arial, Times Roman 
etc. which are not available in LO. Pandoc also did not assign the default list 
style to lists, nor did it handle tables at all. Although tables are not part 
of the core markdown they are part of a common extension.

Does CentOS 6.8 have access to the "ttf-mscorefonts-installer" package?

This package includes Arial and Times New Roman and many of the core 
fonts you get with a Windows install.  I use the DEB package, but 
hopefully there is a RPM package as well.


On my main laptop, I have Arial in "normal" style, monospaced, 
condensed, narrow, and rounded font sets.


Actually, I have over 180 fonts in my ".font"folder, and have over 14GB 
of font files on my "file server".



I would have preferred pandoc to use whatever the style settings are in LO,
not trying to change anything.

Actually it does not work that way; pandoc cannot guess what styles are used
by LibreOffice. If you have written your two documents using markdown they
simply cannot use LibreOffice styles "in advance". I think that what's really
going on with Pandoc is that it has default settings for each type of export
filters. Arial and Times Roman are fairly common fonts and by default
LibreOffice can use them with no problem.

On the other hand, using Markdown in my experience does not really make me
expect to have nicely laid out documents (like with LibreOffice or LATEX for
instance). Markdown is fundamentally a web and transitional format, made to
process text on websites or online documentation. If you are looking for rich
and complex styles I suggest to stick to LibreOffice or other kinds of tools
such as LATEX.

Best,




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-27 Thread Charles-H . Schulz
Hello,

H. @ 2016-11-27 19:00 GMT:

> On 11/20/2016 03:13 PM, Ricardo wrote:
>> El 2016-11-20 14:45, Virgil Arrington escribió:
>>> 
>>>
>>> Since Markdown is a pure text file with formatting marks inserted, you
>>> could easily edit such a file with LO. It sounds like what you're asking
>>> is a way to convert the Markdown file to a LO format. I'm not sure of a
>>> direct way of doing that. You might try Pandoc, an online file converter.
>>>
>>> 
>>
>> Pandoc can be installed on any system, but only recent versions support ODT, 
>> so you need to look with version if offered by CentOS
>>
>> http://pandoc.org/
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ricardo
>>
> I have installed pandoc and tried to converted two markdown documents to ODT 
> opening them in LibreOffice  4.3.7 under CentOS 6.8.
>
> It seems Pandoc modifies the LO styles, setting fonts to Arial, Times Roman 
> etc. which are not available in LO. Pandoc also did not assign the default 
> list style to lists, nor did it handle tables at all. Although tables are not 
> part of the core markdown they are part of a common extension.
>
> I would have preferred pandoc to use whatever the style settings are in LO,
> not trying to change anything.

Actually it does not work that way; pandoc cannot guess what styles are used
by LibreOffice. If you have written your two documents using markdown they
simply cannot use LibreOffice styles "in advance". I think that what's really
going on with Pandoc is that it has default settings for each type of export
filters. Arial and Times Roman are fairly common fonts and by default
LibreOffice can use them with no problem.

On the other hand, using Markdown in my experience does not really make me
expect to have nicely laid out documents (like with LibreOffice or LATEX for
instance). Markdown is fundamentally a web and transitional format, made to
process text on websites or online documentation. If you are looking for rich
and complex styles I suggest to stick to LibreOffice or other kinds of tools
such as LATEX.

Best,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Transferring Markdown Documents to LibreOffice

2016-11-27 Thread H

On 11/20/2016 03:13 PM, Ricardo wrote:

El 2016-11-20 14:45, Virgil Arrington escribió:



Since Markdown is a pure text file with formatting marks inserted, you
could easily edit such a file with LO. It sounds like what you're asking
is a way to convert the Markdown file to a LO format. I'm not sure of a
direct way of doing that. You might try Pandoc, an online file converter.




Pandoc can be installed on any system, but only recent versions support ODT, so 
you need to look with version if offered by CentOS

http://pandoc.org/

Regards,
Ricardo


I have installed pandoc and tried to converted two markdown documents to ODT 
opening them in LibreOffice  4.3.7 under CentOS 6.8.

It seems Pandoc modifies the LO styles, setting fonts to Arial, Times Roman 
etc. which are not available in LO. Pandoc also did not assign the default list 
style to lists, nor did it handle tables at all. Although tables are not part 
of the core markdown they are part of a common extension.

I would have preferred pandoc to use whatever the style settings are in LO, not 
trying to change anything.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Line spacing changed.

2016-11-27 Thread Steve Edmonds



On 2016-11-26 01:33, CVAlkan wrote:

If the problem "goes away" when removing bullets, you are probably a victim
of bug # 92657.

Read through the entire conversation at:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92657

Writer will sometimes substitute bullets from another font even when there
are bullets in the font you're using; this is related to other font
substitutions it makes based on the font matching info it gets from the OS.

If this is the case, the spacing between the line with the bullet and the
line immediately below it in the same paragraph will have greater spacing
that what exists between any subsequent two lines in the same paragraph. If
so, it may or may not help for you to post a confirmation reply to that bug
along with the usual info: OS & version, version of LO, name of font in use,
and anything else you think might be useful.

I believe this is actually part of the deeper font substitution problem
(although I suspect the thing with bullets is a special case). You CAN, by
the way, sort of make the problem disappear by editing the bulleted list
style and specifying a smaller bullet or your default font. Go to Styles and
Formatting either from the Menu, the sidebar, or by pressing F11. Then
choose Character Styles, and then Bullets (this latter does NOT appear
unless you are set to "Show ALL styles" and even then it may show up as a
series of 7 boxes instead of the characters "Bullets."

Then, choose "Modify" and you'll see that Writer is not using your paragraph
font for the bullets. Here you can do one of two things: making sure that
you can see the actual document, change the font size and press "Apply" - if
your paragraph size is set to 12, for instance, set the bullet style to 10
and see what happens. (Actually, first try setting it much larger and press
Apply just to prove to yourself that this is the cause of your particular
problem.)  The other option is to simply change the font to the one you are
using as the paragraph font and you'll see the problem disappear.

I hope this has been explained clearly enough that you can "fix" your
document.


Thanks.
The bullets, viewed when opened in LO 5.2.3.3 were starsymbol and not 
Arial like the text. Changing the bullets to arial made the document 
display correctly.

steve


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