Re: [libreoffice-users] Stepping through bulleted items in Presentation

2016-12-18 Thread gordon cooper 



On 19/12/16 02:40, Virgil Arrington wrote:

Gordon,

Just curious. How do you do the voice overs?

Virgil




Virgil,
   I will possibly be classed as an heretic and ready to be 
broken on the wheel for
writing this on an LO user list, but IHMO there are much better ways of 
assembling a

slide presentation than using Libre Office.

These days, I use one of the video editors, e.g.  OpenShot, to make a 
synchronised slide
program.  The audio is recorded as a continuous sound track, then the 
images are dropped

in over the sound,  Perhaps it is a voice-under?

However, to answer your query, here is how I worked with LO, and it is 
streets ahead of our methods
used 40 years ago, where the audio editor was a razor blade plus a roll 
of quarter inch adhesive
tape.  Then, the images were 35mm slides, text slides were drawn, then  
photographed, and we
prayed that the processing laboratory would not change fluids while 
developing our film, thus
introducing colour shifts. On one job they did lose 2 36 shot-films from 
a 30+ batch, ruining a
week's work for 2 of our team who were making a training tape/slide 
program about measuring

water quality in remote lakes and rivers!

Libre Office.  The basic system allows the recording of sound for each 
slide, so I did this.



1. Sketch out a story and the sequence of images. Note that the images 
need to be ready in
   advance and that those with text or stepped bullets should be made 
and saved as separate files.


2. Draft a series of descriptions for each image. Record these as audio, 
with a good space

between each one.

3. Edit the audio track - I used Audacity here - remove any pauses 
and/or hesitations and finish with
a well spaced track.  This is then recorded as a sequence of 
separate audio files, one for each
slide. While doing this, note the time/length of audio for each 
slide. Audio should be recorded
in .wav format.  Best to leave a short silent period at the the 
beginning of each file so that viewers

may look at a slide for a few seconds before the audio sarts

4. Now put the sequence together, assemble the slides with display times 
longer than the timed
audio sequences. Then embed the relevant audio file for each 
slide.  Probably the start and

finish visual slides will not have audio.

5.  Finally, run the whole program and perhaps adjust the transition 
times for each slide. I usually

 made the times a bit longer than needed, then pruned them at the end.

Awfully slow and only worth the effort, if the result is to be of 
benefit to many.


Gordon.






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[libreoffice-users] LO 4.4.7.2-5.fc22: "Keep with next paragraph" automatically resets when saved as docx

2016-12-18 Thread Eric Beversluis 
This seems to be a problem that's been raised but I see no solution: 
when I open a file in LO saved as .docx, the "keep as next paragraph" is 
always checked, resulting in big gaps at bottom of page. I fix this 
setting, save it. All looks good until I reopen the document and the 
problem is there again.



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RE: [libreoffice-users] Stepping through bulleted items in [Impress]

2016-12-18 Thread Virgil Arrington 
I notice, however, that if I use Brian's method and save the LO presentation as 
a PDF, the stepping effect isn't preserved. I can preserve it through the 
method of creating duplicate slides and adding new bullets to each slide.

Virgil



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 Original message 
From: Virgil Arrington 
Date: 12/18/16 8:39 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Stepping through bulleted items in [Impress]


Thank you Brian. That was it.

Gordon, I have used LyX and LaTeX and it is deceptively easy in those systems. 
The command for stepping is included in various Beamer templates.

My problem is I have a hard drive full of documents in various formats because 
I keep switching between LO and LyX and LaTeX, etc. I want to settle in on one 
system rather than bounce from one to the other.

Virgil


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 Original message 
From: Brian Barker 
Date: 12/18/16 12:48 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Stepping through bulleted items in [Impress]

At 02:30 18/12/2016 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
>I have rarely used Presentation, but I'm starting to use it more.

That's probably "presentations" or "Impress".

>When I want to step through several bulleted items in a slide, I
>typically create the first slide with one bullet, and then create a
>duplicate slide and add the new bulleted item to the previous one. I
>create as many duplicate slides as I have bullets. I'm wondering if
>there is another way to do this without the need to create several
>slides. If I have 6 bullets, that means creating six slides to get
>the stepping effect through the bullets.

Indeed. And you end up - undesirably - with six slides instead of one
in both your notes and your handout.

>What I'd like to do is create one slide with all six bullets, and
>then tell LO to step through them during my presentation. Is there a
>way to do this?

Surely yes.

o Create your bulleted list of six items.
o Click Custom Animation in the sidebar.
o Let's assume that you want the first item to appear with the main
part of the slide. Select the second item.
o Click Add... .
o Select the mode of entrance.
o Ensure that under Effect, Start is set as "On click".
o Adjust other options as desired.
o Repeat for the other four items, ensuring that they appear in the
appropriate order in the Custom Animation panel.

In the slide show, one click will now bring up the new slide with its
first bulleted item, the next five clicks will add additional items,
and the next click will proceed to the next slide - as you would expect.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Stepping through bulleted items in Presentation

2016-12-18 Thread Virgil Arrington 
Gordon,

Just curious. How do you do the voice overs?

Virgil



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 Original message 
From: gordon cooper 
Date: 12/17/16 10:28 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Stepping through bulleted items in Presentation

Have made several Presentations, mostly intended for remote
viewing and so including sychronised voice-overs.

Never found the bullet stepping technique that you wish for, but have
saved time and effort by first making the full slide, with all lines
finished, then copy it the number of times required and finally
step through the set and delete the unwanted lines.  Have found
that this avoids some repetition,  the layout and any fiddling with
spacing etc., is done only once.

The stepped bulleting may be possible in Lyx Beamer, but do not
have it on this machine, so cannot be sure.

Gordon.



On 18/12/16 15:30, Virgil Arrington wrote:
> I have rarely used Presentation, but I'm starting to use it more.
>
> When I want to step through several bulleted items in a slide, I
> typically create the first slide with one bullet, and then create a
> duplicate slide and add the new bulleted item to the previous one. I
> create as many duplicate slides as I have bullets.
>
> I'm wondering if there is another way to do this without the need to
> create several slides. If I have 6 bullets, that means creating six
> slides to get the stepping effect through the bullets.
>
> What I'd like to do is create one slide with all six bullets, and then
> tell LO to step through them during my presentation. Is there a way to
> do this?
>
> Virgil
>
>


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RE: [libreoffice-users] Stepping through bulleted items in [Impress]

2016-12-18 Thread Virgil Arrington 

Thank you Brian. That was it.

Gordon, I have used LyX and LaTeX and it is deceptively easy in those systems. 
The command for stepping is included in various Beamer templates.

My problem is I have a hard drive full of documents in various formats because 
I keep switching between LO and LyX and LaTeX, etc. I want to settle in on one 
system rather than bounce from one to the other.

Virgil


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 Original message 
From: Brian Barker 
Date: 12/18/16 12:48 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Stepping through bulleted items in [Impress]

At 02:30 18/12/2016 +, Virgil Arrington wrote:
>I have rarely used Presentation, but I'm starting to use it more.

That's probably "presentations" or "Impress".

>When I want to step through several bulleted items in a slide, I
>typically create the first slide with one bullet, and then create a
>duplicate slide and add the new bulleted item to the previous one. I
>create as many duplicate slides as I have bullets. I'm wondering if
>there is another way to do this without the need to create several
>slides. If I have 6 bullets, that means creating six slides to get
>the stepping effect through the bullets.

Indeed. And you end up - undesirably - with six slides instead of one
in both your notes and your handout.

>What I'd like to do is create one slide with all six bullets, and
>then tell LO to step through them during my presentation. Is there a
>way to do this?

Surely yes.

o Create your bulleted list of six items.
o Click Custom Animation in the sidebar.
o Let's assume that you want the first item to appear with the main
part of the slide. Select the second item.
o Click Add... .
o Select the mode of entrance.
o Ensure that under Effect, Start is set as "On click".
o Adjust other options as desired.
o Repeat for the other four items, ensuring that they appear in the
appropriate order in the Custom Animation panel.

In the slide show, one click will now bring up the new slide with its
first bulleted item, the next five clicks will add additional items,
and the next click will proceed to the next slide - as you would expect.

I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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