Re: [libreoffice-users] edit autocorrection options

2019-03-16 Thread Dave Howorth
On Sat, 16 Mar 2019 19:40:52 +0100
Johnny Rosenberg  wrote:
> > > First of all, sorry for mailing you privately. This mailing lists
> > > doesn't behave like any of the other lists I'm subscribed to, so I
> > > often forget to hit ”reply to all”…  
> >
> > On my mailer (claws) I just hit reply and it all works.
> 
> I don't use a ”mailer” (whatever that is), I use Gmail's web
> interface.

Well, what I am saying then is that it is gmail's interface that is
wrong, not the mailing list. My MUA handles it correctly.
 
> > > I'm not sure why you can't find your (c) entries, I find mine
> > > easily on my system, and I know for sure I didn't add them myself
> > > (since I have the © character included in my own keyboard layout
> > > anyway – Shift+AltGr+c).  
> >
> > FWIW, on my keyboard it is AltGr-Shift-c. Order matters and
> > Shift-AltGr-c does not work.
> 
> What do you mean ”order matters”? You hit Ctrl and AltGr at the same
> time and keep them down while pressing c, don't you?

No I don't because order matters.

> I'll it right now:
> First pressing Shift, keeping it down, then also pressing AltGr and
> keeping both down while pressing c: ©

Nope, no character results.

> Now, pressing AltGr, keeping it down, then also pressing Shift and
> keeping both down while pressing c: ©

©  QED

> Doesn't matter on my computer anyway.

Does matter on mine. And on every other computer I remember using.

So I believe it was worth pointing out to the OP in case his system
behaves like mine.

> This was tested with my own keyboard layout (Swedish ̣– Johnny
> Rosenberg). Now I'll test it with the standard Swedish layout:
> Shift Shift+AltGr Shift+AltGr+c: ©
> AltGr AltGr+Shift AltGr+Shift+c: ©
> Works perfectly (on my computer, operating system=Manjaro Linux,
> desktop environment=XFCE).

openSUSE Leap 15.0 with UK keyboard and XFCE.

> Kind regards

Equally kind regards :)
Dave

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Re: [libreoffice-users] edit autocorrection options

2019-03-16 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den lör 16 mars 2019 kl 01:29 skrev Dave Howorth :

> On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 22:58:51 +0100
> Johnny Rosenberg  wrote:
>
> > Den fre 15 mars 2019 kl 02:35 skrev Thomas Blasejewicz
> > :
> >
> > > On 2019/03/15 2:04, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
> > > > Den tors 14 mars 2019 kl 16:57 skrev Thomas Blasejewicz
> > > > mailto:ny...@hb.tp1.jp>>:
> > > >
> > > > On 2018/12/24 16:46, Brian Barker wrote:
> > > > > At 15:55 24/12/2018 +0900, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> The problem: there *** IS NO *** (c) in the replacement
> > > > >> list.
> > > > (only
> > > > >> (R)) I have looked at least twice. In all three languages
> > > > >> I use.
> > > > >
> > > > > As you will have seen, V Stuart Foote finds ".*(C)" there.
> > > > >
> > > > >> I just entered (c) under "Replace" AND "With". For now,
> > > > >> that
> > > > seems to
> > > > >> be working.
> > > > >
> > > > Since I am struggling with the autocorrect options again ...
> > > > I remember that entering (c) once worked .. but not any more.
> > > > (c) IS listed under exceptions, but nevertheless it is ALWAYS
> > > > converted
> > > > to the copyright symbol, regardless of what I do.
> > > >
> > > > What I CAN do is: type "(c " followed by some other text and
> > > > LATER add
> > > > the right-sided bracket.
> > > > But that is a rather inconvenient procedure.
> > > >
> > > > Any way out of this?
> > >
> >
> >
> > First of all, sorry for mailing you privately. This mailing lists
> > doesn't behave like any of the other lists I'm subscribed to, so I
> > often forget to hit ”reply to all”…
>
> On my mailer (claws) I just hit reply and it all works.
>

I don't use a ”mailer” (whatever that is), I use Gmail's web interface.


>
> > I'm not sure why you can't find your (c) entries, I find mine easily
> > on my system, and I know for sure I didn't add them myself (since I
> > have the © character included in my own keyboard layout anyway –
> > Shift+AltGr+c).
>
> FWIW, on my keyboard it is AltGr-Shift-c. Order matters and
> Shift-AltGr-c does not work.
>

What do you mean ”order matters”? You hit Ctrl and AltGr at the same time
and keep them down while pressing c, don't you?
I'll it right now:
First pressing Shift, keeping it down, then also pressing AltGr and keeping
both down while pressing c: ©
Now, pressing AltGr, keeping it down, then also pressing Shift and keeping
both down while pressing c: ©
Doesn't matter on my computer anyway.
This was tested with my own keyboard layout (Swedish ̣– Johnny Rosenberg).
Now I'll test it with the standard Swedish layout:
Shift Shift+AltGr Shift+AltGr+c: ©
AltGr AltGr+Shift AltGr+Shift+c: ©
Works perfectly (on my computer, operating system=Manjaro Linux, desktop
environment=XFCE).
(By the way, the ”+” sign means that the key to the left and the key to the
right of it are pressed simultaneously, I don't have a clue what the ”-”
sign would mean in this case. A space usually means ”release all keys”,
like in ”ComposeKey o c”, but in the case above it means nothing)

Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg



> > Did you notice that when you select your language,
> > the first option is something like ”all languages”? Maybe you can
> > find it there?
> >
> > Another thought is that maybe you use some other software such as
> > AutoKey or AutoHotKey that does approximately the same thing at a
> > more global level? If you don't know what those are, you are probably
> > don't have them installed, though.
> >
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Johnny Rosenberg
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Probably, but if you can't find one, just define a new line in the
> > > > list that converts something (for instance ”ccc” or something else
> > > > that's easy to type fast) to (c).
> > > >
> > > > I guess you could also remove (c) entirely from the list.
> > > >
> > > > Also, I'm not sure why you have this problem; I don't. When I
> > > > type (C) it converts to ©, but (c) doesn't.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Thank you.
> > > * When I type (C) nothing happens, whereas (c) is converted to
> > > "copyright". Exact opposite behavior to the one in your computer. Is
> > > there a setting for this?
> > > * Adding a new item -> tried ccc -> nothing happens.
> > > * Deleting (c) -> I cannot find it in any list (for English, German
> > > and Japanese). There does not seem to be such an entry.
> > >  Or is there a trick to find it?
> > > * The Ctrl+z trick works, but I believe, there should be something
> > > more rational.
> > >
> > > This may be an unimportant matter, but it is nevertheless  very
> > > annoying. Thank you
> > > Thomas
> > >
> >
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] edit autocorrection options

2019-03-16 Thread Piet van Oostrum
Thomas Blasejewicz  writes:

> Now I can change the contents and after newly adding the "(c)" (which I
> still cannot find anywhere in the preexisting lists),

Please note that the replacement lists are language specific, plus there is a 
list for [ALL].
So it might be that the replacement for (c) is in the English list, but your 
default language is not English.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] edit autocorrection options

2019-03-16 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2019/03/16 9:28, Dave Howorth wrote:

>> The problem: there *** IS NO *** (c) in the replacement

Someone suggested the following and I would like to pass that idea on:

"Libre Office installs to an area on your system that isn't user 
specific, but is available to all users.  What you describe seems like 
the default autocorrect file is in that area, and has restricted access 
to your user account, so  you can read it, but not change or save it."


So, I copied the "autocorr" folder from the user profile to a folder 
where I keep all my LibreOffice staff.
"Added" the new location under Options->Paths and then selected the 
newly added folder as the location.


Now I can change the contents and after newly adding the "(c)" (which I 
still cannot find anywhere in the preexisting lists),

the thing WORKS!

Thank you!
I think, that was a brilliant idea.

Thomas

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