Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer Tab Stops

2020-11-04 Thread Richard England

LO v7.0.3.1 on Fedora 33 and  right click on the ruler inserts a tab for me.

~~R
StGeorge  



On 11/4/20 7:43 PM, Joe Conner wrote:

I have LibreOffice 7.0.3.1 running on Ubuntu 20.10 64-bit.

What happened to the former ability to right-click on the top ruler 
and insert a tab stop?

If the feature still exists, where was it moved to and why?

Blessings, Joe





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[libreoffice-users] Writer Tab Stops

2020-11-04 Thread Joe Conner

I have LibreOffice 7.0.3.1 running on Ubuntu 20.10 64-bit.

What happened to the former ability to right-click on the top ruler and 
insert a tab stop?

If the feature still exists, where was it moved to and why?

Blessings, Joe



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Which Font Is Substituted?

2020-11-04 Thread John
Thanks for the reply Steve.

Yes, there are at last two fonts from different families in each
document, the bulk of the text is in Century Schoolbook but the titles
and subtitles are in Deja Vu Sans, and any Internet references are in
a mono spaced font. 

Regards,

John
===
On Thu, 2020-11-05 at 08:24 +1300, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> Do the documents you want to edit contain any fonts other than
> "Century 
> Schoolbook", i.e. contain only a single font.
> 
> With the documents I edit from various sources I just select-all
> and 
> change the font to Arial which I use throughout.
> 
> Steve
> 
> On 05/11/2020 08:01, John wrote:
> > I have tried your suggestion several times, with possible changes,
> > and
> > the font always shows in italics at the head of editor screen.
> > 
> > To clarify, the correct font, named Century PS Pro in this
> > incarnation, is available on the font options list when editing a
> > document.
> > 
> > BUT the incoming text documents were created on previous versions
> > of
> > Libre Office, or may have been imported from Open Office,
> > Textmaker or
> > Word Perfect, and show the name of the font as known to those
> > programmes, ie "Century Schoolbook" so the font name shows in
> > italics.
> > 
> > So, I went to the Replacement table in Libre Office and set "font
> > Century Schoolbook, replace with Century PS Pro" (which showed up
> > as a
> > choice on the drop down menu) and ticked the "always" box and
> > "apply
> > replacement table" and OK.  These settings are retained between
> > restarts of Libre Office..
> > 
> > But when I load a document for editing, Century Schoolbook still
> > shows
> > up in italics as the active font.  If I then start to edit and
> > click
> > "Insert | Special Character" I get a very limited number of Latin
> > special characters and a group of Sinhala glyphs.  It is quite
> > possible to change the Latin subset of characters but Libre Office
> > always reverts to Sinhala when you return to editing the document.
> > By
> > experiment, if the font is recognized by LO then the correct
> > special
> > character substitution table is presented.
> > 
> > The actual font in use seems to be correct in that the characters
> > look
> > "right" and all the metrics (height, spacing, leading, etc) work
> > out
> > as expected.
> > 
> > I could possibly provide a soft link to the correct name but I'm
> > afraid of blowing up something else that I haven't thought about
> > (yet).
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > John
> > 
> > On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 12:29 +1300, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I also had a similar issue because the name of the font changed
> > > with
> > > an
> > > upgrade. I.e "Century Schoolbook" to "Century Schoolbook L",
> > > although in
> > > my case it wasn't Century Schoolbook.
> > > 
> > > The first step will be to get the font you need to show in the
> > > fonts
> > > list in LibreOffice. A solution here could be to use the system
> > > font
> > > installer tool, go to /usr/share/fonts/century-schoolbook/
> > > directory
> > > and
> > > try to install the fonts. The installer will either install the
> > > fonts
> > > where the system wants them or tell you they are already
> > > installed.
> > > 
> > > Restart LO and see if the font is in the font list.
> > > 
> > > A backup for next time: I have a fonts directory in my home
> > > folder,
> > > I
> > > copy fonts here as a backup when they are installed and it means
> > > I
> > > cam
> > > always get back to fonts used in old documents even after an OS
> > > upgrade,
> > > assuming you back up this fonts directory.
> > > 
> > > Steve
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 11/10/2020 10:07, Girvin Herr wrote:
> > > > John,
> > > > 
> > > > I am using Slackware Linux 14.2 (k4.4.227).
> > > > 
> > > > Do you have any font substitutions in LO's Options >
> > > > LibreOffice
> > > > Fonts > Replacement table?
> > > > 
> > > > Note that "/usr/share/fonts/century-schoolbook/" is not a
> > > > standard
> > > > Xorg font directory. Xorg probably does not have this
> > > > directory in
> > > > its
> > > > list of font directories to search. That may be why LO cannot
> > > > find
> > > > it.
> > > > I found it in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/" as ncen*.pcf.gz. It
> > > > is
> > > > listed
> > > > in the fonts.dir plain text file in that directory. If the
> > > > font
> > > > path
> > > > is not in the X font directory search list, then X cannot
> > > > supply
> > > > it to
> > > > LO. I suggest to place it in the correct directory or add the
> > > > century-schoolbook directory to X's font directory list. To do
> > > > that,
> > > > if you have an xorg.conf file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf YMMV), look
> > > > for
> > > > the
> > > > "FontPath" entries and add your path to it.
> > > > 
> > > > Another option is to run the font database manager, but I use
> > > > that
> > > > so
> > > > little, I 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Which Font Is Substituted?

2020-11-04 Thread Steve Edmonds

May be font substitution doesn't really work as we expected.
I just tried a document using an older font no longer installed. I set 
up the substitution table and saved the document but the font was not 
substituted.

I just tried saving the document as an fodt then;
> sed 's/Albany AMT/Bitstream Charter/g' fontSubout.fodt

And it worked a charm.

Steve

On 05/11/2020 08:01, John wrote:

I have tried your suggestion several times, with possible changes, and
the font always shows in italics at the head of editor screen.

To clarify, the correct font, named Century PS Pro in this
incarnation, is available on the font options list when editing a
document.

BUT the incoming text documents were created on previous versions of
Libre Office, or may have been imported from Open Office, Textmaker or
Word Perfect, and show the name of the font as known to those
programmes, ie "Century Schoolbook" so the font name shows in
italics.

So, I went to the Replacement table in Libre Office and set "font
Century Schoolbook, replace with Century PS Pro" (which showed up as a
choice on the drop down menu) and ticked the "always" box and "apply
replacement table" and OK.  These settings are retained between
restarts of Libre Office..

But when I load a document for editing, Century Schoolbook still shows
up in italics as the active font.  If I then start to edit and click
"Insert | Special Character" I get a very limited number of Latin
special characters and a group of Sinhala glyphs.  It is quite
possible to change the Latin subset of characters but Libre Office
always reverts to Sinhala when you return to editing the document. By
experiment, if the font is recognized by LO then the correct special
character substitution table is presented.

The actual font in use seems to be correct in that the characters look
"right" and all the metrics (height, spacing, leading, etc) work out
as expected.

I could possibly provide a soft link to the correct name but I'm
afraid of blowing up something else that I haven't thought about
(yet).

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

John

On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 12:29 +1300, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi,

I also had a similar issue because the name of the font changed with
an
upgrade. I.e "Century Schoolbook" to "Century Schoolbook L",
although in
my case it wasn't Century Schoolbook.

The first step will be to get the font you need to show in the
fonts
list in LibreOffice. A solution here could be to use the system
font
installer tool, go to /usr/share/fonts/century-schoolbook/ directory
and
try to install the fonts. The installer will either install the
fonts
where the system wants them or tell you they are already installed.

Restart LO and see if the font is in the font list.

A backup for next time: I have a fonts directory in my home folder,
I
copy fonts here as a backup when they are installed and it means I
cam
always get back to fonts used in old documents even after an OS
upgrade,
assuming you back up this fonts directory.

Steve


On 11/10/2020 10:07, Girvin Herr wrote:

John,

I am using Slackware Linux 14.2 (k4.4.227).

Do you have any font substitutions in LO's Options > LibreOffice
Fonts > Replacement table?

Note that "/usr/share/fonts/century-schoolbook/" is not a
standard
Xorg font directory. Xorg probably does not have this directory in
its
list of font directories to search. That may be why LO cannot find
it.
I found it in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/" as ncen*.pcf.gz. It is
listed
in the fonts.dir plain text file in that directory. If the font
path
is not in the X font directory search list, then X cannot supply
it to
LO. I suggest to place it in the correct directory or add the
century-schoolbook directory to X's font directory list. To do
that,
if you have an xorg.conf file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf YMMV), look for
the
"FontPath" entries and add your path to it.

Another option is to run the font database manager, but I use that
so
little, I have forgotten how to do it.

I just checked and discovered my LibreOffice 6.2.8.2 does not
have
Century Schoolbook listed either. However, my Apache OpenOffice
4.1.6
does have a "Century Schoolbook L" font listed. This implies that
even
if the font is in the correct directory, as in my case, LO is
omitting
it for some reason. Are you sure there is no entry in your font
replacement table?
So, another option might be to install AOO and see if that works
better for you.

HTH.

Girvin Herr


On 10/10/20 12:34 PM, John wrote:

I have a several chapters of a book that were originally
composed
using an earlier version of LibreOffice using what I believe was
the
"Century Schoolbook" font.  Now when I call them in for editing,
the
font is shown in italics as "Times New Roman" with the note "The
current font is not available and will be substituted".

This is giving me a serious problem since the book contains many
drawings and framed images and these get re-flowed due to the
difference in the absolute height 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Which Font Is Substituted?

2020-11-04 Thread Steve Edmonds
Do the documents you want to edit contain any fonts other than "Century 
Schoolbook", i.e. contain only a single font.


With the documents I edit from various sources I just select-all and 
change the font to Arial which I use throughout.


Steve

On 05/11/2020 08:01, John wrote:

I have tried your suggestion several times, with possible changes, and
the font always shows in italics at the head of editor screen.

To clarify, the correct font, named Century PS Pro in this
incarnation, is available on the font options list when editing a
document.

BUT the incoming text documents were created on previous versions of
Libre Office, or may have been imported from Open Office, Textmaker or
Word Perfect, and show the name of the font as known to those
programmes, ie "Century Schoolbook" so the font name shows in
italics.

So, I went to the Replacement table in Libre Office and set "font
Century Schoolbook, replace with Century PS Pro" (which showed up as a
choice on the drop down menu) and ticked the "always" box and "apply
replacement table" and OK.  These settings are retained between
restarts of Libre Office..

But when I load a document for editing, Century Schoolbook still shows
up in italics as the active font.  If I then start to edit and click
"Insert | Special Character" I get a very limited number of Latin
special characters and a group of Sinhala glyphs.  It is quite
possible to change the Latin subset of characters but Libre Office
always reverts to Sinhala when you return to editing the document. By
experiment, if the font is recognized by LO then the correct special
character substitution table is presented.

The actual font in use seems to be correct in that the characters look
"right" and all the metrics (height, spacing, leading, etc) work out
as expected.

I could possibly provide a soft link to the correct name but I'm
afraid of blowing up something else that I haven't thought about
(yet).

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

John

On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 12:29 +1300, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi,

I also had a similar issue because the name of the font changed with
an
upgrade. I.e "Century Schoolbook" to "Century Schoolbook L",
although in
my case it wasn't Century Schoolbook.

The first step will be to get the font you need to show in the
fonts
list in LibreOffice. A solution here could be to use the system
font
installer tool, go to /usr/share/fonts/century-schoolbook/ directory
and
try to install the fonts. The installer will either install the
fonts
where the system wants them or tell you they are already installed.

Restart LO and see if the font is in the font list.

A backup for next time: I have a fonts directory in my home folder,
I
copy fonts here as a backup when they are installed and it means I
cam
always get back to fonts used in old documents even after an OS
upgrade,
assuming you back up this fonts directory.

Steve


On 11/10/2020 10:07, Girvin Herr wrote:

John,

I am using Slackware Linux 14.2 (k4.4.227).

Do you have any font substitutions in LO's Options > LibreOffice
Fonts > Replacement table?

Note that "/usr/share/fonts/century-schoolbook/" is not a
standard
Xorg font directory. Xorg probably does not have this directory in
its
list of font directories to search. That may be why LO cannot find
it.
I found it in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/" as ncen*.pcf.gz. It is
listed
in the fonts.dir plain text file in that directory. If the font
path
is not in the X font directory search list, then X cannot supply
it to
LO. I suggest to place it in the correct directory or add the
century-schoolbook directory to X's font directory list. To do
that,
if you have an xorg.conf file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf YMMV), look for
the
"FontPath" entries and add your path to it.

Another option is to run the font database manager, but I use that
so
little, I have forgotten how to do it.

I just checked and discovered my LibreOffice 6.2.8.2 does not
have
Century Schoolbook listed either. However, my Apache OpenOffice
4.1.6
does have a "Century Schoolbook L" font listed. This implies that
even
if the font is in the correct directory, as in my case, LO is
omitting
it for some reason. Are you sure there is no entry in your font
replacement table?
So, another option might be to install AOO and see if that works
better for you.

HTH.

Girvin Herr


On 10/10/20 12:34 PM, John wrote:

I have a several chapters of a book that were originally
composed
using an earlier version of LibreOffice using what I believe was
the
"Century Schoolbook" font.  Now when I call them in for editing,
the
font is shown in italics as "Times New Roman" with the note "The
current font is not available and will be substituted".

This is giving me a serious problem since the book contains many
drawings and framed images and these get re-flowed due to the
difference in the absolute height of the font being substituted.
In
some cases the drawings are pages away from their correct
location and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Which Font Is Substituted?

2020-11-04 Thread John
I have tried your suggestion several times, with possible changes, and
the font always shows in italics at the head of editor screen.

To clarify, the correct font, named Century PS Pro in this
incarnation, is available on the font options list when editing a
document.

BUT the incoming text documents were created on previous versions of
Libre Office, or may have been imported from Open Office, Textmaker or
Word Perfect, and show the name of the font as known to those
programmes, ie "Century Schoolbook" so the font name shows in
italics. 

So, I went to the Replacement table in Libre Office and set "font
Century Schoolbook, replace with Century PS Pro" (which showed up as a
choice on the drop down menu) and ticked the "always" box and "apply
replacement table" and OK.  These settings are retained between
restarts of Libre Office..

But when I load a document for editing, Century Schoolbook still shows
up in italics as the active font.  If I then start to edit and click
"Insert | Special Character" I get a very limited number of Latin
special characters and a group of Sinhala glyphs.  It is quite
possible to change the Latin subset of characters but Libre Office
always reverts to Sinhala when you return to editing the document. By
experiment, if the font is recognized by LO then the correct special
character substitution table is presented.

The actual font in use seems to be correct in that the characters look
"right" and all the metrics (height, spacing, leading, etc) work out
as expected.  

I could possibly provide a soft link to the correct name but I'm
afraid of blowing up something else that I haven't thought about
(yet).

Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

John

On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 12:29 +1300, Steve Edmonds wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I also had a similar issue because the name of the font changed with
> an 
> upgrade. I.e "Century Schoolbook" to "Century Schoolbook L",
> although in 
> my case it wasn't Century Schoolbook.
> 
> The first step will be to get the font you need to show in the
> fonts 
> list in LibreOffice. A solution here could be to use the system
> font 
> installer tool, go to /usr/share/fonts/century-schoolbook/ directory
> and 
> try to install the fonts. The installer will either install the
> fonts 
> where the system wants them or tell you they are already installed.
> 
> Restart LO and see if the font is in the font list.
> 
> A backup for next time: I have a fonts directory in my home folder,
> I 
> copy fonts here as a backup when they are installed and it means I
> cam 
> always get back to fonts used in old documents even after an OS
> upgrade, 
> assuming you back up this fonts directory.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> On 11/10/2020 10:07, Girvin Herr wrote:
> > John,
> > 
> > I am using Slackware Linux 14.2 (k4.4.227).
> > 
> > Do you have any font substitutions in LO's Options > LibreOffice
> > > 
> > Fonts > Replacement table?
> > 
> > Note that "/usr/share/fonts/century-schoolbook/" is not a
> > standard 
> > Xorg font directory. Xorg probably does not have this directory in
> > its 
> > list of font directories to search. That may be why LO cannot find
> > it. 
> > I found it in "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/" as ncen*.pcf.gz. It is
> > listed 
> > in the fonts.dir plain text file in that directory. If the font
> > path 
> > is not in the X font directory search list, then X cannot supply
> > it to 
> > LO. I suggest to place it in the correct directory or add the 
> > century-schoolbook directory to X's font directory list. To do
> > that, 
> > if you have an xorg.conf file (/etc/X11/xorg.conf YMMV), look for
> > the 
> > "FontPath" entries and add your path to it.
> > 
> > Another option is to run the font database manager, but I use that
> > so 
> > little, I have forgotten how to do it.
> > 
> > I just checked and discovered my LibreOffice 6.2.8.2 does not
> > have 
> > Century Schoolbook listed either. However, my Apache OpenOffice
> > 4.1.6 
> > does have a "Century Schoolbook L" font listed. This implies that
> > even 
> > if the font is in the correct directory, as in my case, LO is
> > omitting 
> > it for some reason. Are you sure there is no entry in your font 
> > replacement table?
> > So, another option might be to install AOO and see if that works 
> > better for you.
> > 
> > HTH.
> > 
> > Girvin Herr
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/10/20 12:34 PM, John wrote:
> > > I have a several chapters of a book that were originally
> > > composed
> > > using an earlier version of LibreOffice using what I believe was
> > > the
> > > "Century Schoolbook" font.  Now when I call them in for editing,
> > > the
> > > font is shown in italics as "Times New Roman" with the note "The
> > > current font is not available and will be substituted".
> > > 
> > > This is giving me a serious problem since the book contains many
> > > drawings and framed images and these get re-flowed due to the
> > > difference in the absolute height of the font being