RE: [libreoffice-users] RE: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-05 Thread Virgil Arrington 
I don’t know your particular situation, but it seems to me that most common 
whack-a-mole problems come from mixing formatting-by-styles and direct 
formatting. This is especially common in collaborated documents. One co-author 
works with styles and the other works with direct formatting, which creates a 
hot mess.

I have never had a problem with LO when I have controlled the formatting. I use 
my own styles that I have created and everything works smoothly. But if someone 
else touches my work and starts inserting direct formatting, then it’s 
whack-a-mole time. I don’t fault the program for this, whether its LO Writer or 
MS Word.

I recall years ago, another FOSS program, AbiWord had a feature called “lock 
styles,” which prevented direct formatting. I haven’t looked at AbiWord in 
years so I don’t know if it is still there. I can only imagine the average user 
being frustrated by being locked out of direct formatting, which highlights an 
inherent problem with programs like LO and Word.

They work best when used with styles, yet I dare say most users don’t want to 
take the time to learn how to use styles. I tried in vain to teach styles to my 
secretary and she couldn’t be bothered. She complained that, while I was 
spending time creating and editing styles, she was actually getting work done. 
I could never persuade her that, once learned, styles make things so much 
faster and easier. I suspect that her attitude is more prevalent than LO’s 
developers would like to admit. Hence…

Whack-a-mole!!

Virgil

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From: Mike Flannigan 
Sent: Tuesday, October 5, 2021 8:27:37 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: LibreOffice to LyX


I haven't dealt with long wordprocessing documents on LO,
but I have in MSWord.  And I have seen the exact same
whack-a-mole behavior.  Going through the whole document
and explicitly setting each section font size and style.
Numbered lists seem to cause the most problems.


Mike


On 10/4/21 5:06 PM, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote:
> On October 3, Steve Litt  (on the LyX User 
> List) wrote:
>
>> Several times, on long wordprocessing documents, I personally have had
>> LibreOffice writer styles spontaneously change. At one point my
>> personal problem with LibreOffice style prevented me from converting a
>> 300 page doc made in MS Word to LibreOffice. The import went just fine,
>> but the styles kept changing, and keeping them all intact was like
>> playing whack-a-mole.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] unwanted red lines on spreadsheet and info boxes

2021-10-05 Thread Philip Jackson 

On 05/10/2021 01:18, Brian Barker wrote:


To suppress the recording (and display) of changes, toggle off Edit | Track 
Changes > | Record.

I trust this helps.


Thank you, Brian. That's exactly what it was.  Since I have never knowingly 
used Track Changes and it never affected the top half of my data, it must have 
turned itself on. Now, I know that is not a reasonable supposition so I have 
investigated to try to understand what I did.

I was working automatically, almost on autopilot, using a series of keyboard 
shortcuts - Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V, Ctrl-X, Shift-Ctrl-V, Shift-Ctrl-Alt-V, arrow keys, 
Enter ...  etc. I must have accidentally hit an unwanted key.

Searching in Tools | Customize | Keyboard for existing shortcuts revealed under 
Category | Edit, a shortcut for Record Shift-Ctrl-C.  That is what I must have 
hit once and only once because it acts as an on-off toggle and the second time 
produces a dialogue box which gives the game away.

Thanks again, Brian. My knowledge has been increased and I'll know better next 
time.

Philip


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Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: LibreOffice to LyX

2021-10-05 Thread Mike Flannigan 


I haven't dealt with long wordprocessing documents on LO,
but I have in MSWord.  And I have seen the exact same
whack-a-mole behavior.  Going through the whole document
and explicitly setting each section font size and style.
Numbered lists seem to cause the most problems.


Mike


On 10/4/21 5:06 PM, users+h...@global.libreoffice.org wrote:

On October 3, Steve Litt  (on the LyX User 
List) wrote:


Several times, on long wordprocessing documents, I personally have had
LibreOffice writer styles spontaneously change. At one point my
personal problem with LibreOffice style prevented me from converting a
300 page doc made in MS Word to LibreOffice. The import went just fine,
but the styles kept changing, and keeping them all intact was like
playing whack-a-mole.



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[libreoffice-users] Defaults in Find dialogue and toolbar for Calc

2021-10-05 Thread David Lynch 

The defaults in the Find toolbar and the Find dialog are:

Direction: Rows Search in: Formulae

I normally want the opposite: Search in columns (because columns usually 
consist of more homogeneous data than columns) and search in Data 
(because usually I'm usually looking at the finished spreadsheet rather 
than constructing it, and even when constructing a spreadsheet, search 
for a formula is infrequent).


You cannot change the default from the toolbar and, if you change the 
default from the dialog then move to another sheet, it changes back to 
the unwelcome default.


Is there a way to change the default permanently?

Is there a reason for the current behaviour? If not, I propose to ask 
for a change.


David Lynch


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