[libreoffice-users] EMail mailmerge - does it work?

[Fabian Rodriguez]

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Hi

In the past I had used the email mailmerge features in LibreOffice with
some problems, and was wondering if it works now?

I still see it in the menus but before setting up a proper data source
and going throught the wizard I just wanted to ask here. I seem to
remember it depended on Java and it would be removed or rewritten at
some point.

Thanks for any information about this.

Regards,

Fabian


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Project Planning in LibreOffice Software

[Fabian Rodriguez]

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On 2013-02-20 23:16, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> We are carrying out PCI-DSS project for our organization and i am
presently
> using ubuntu 11.10 desktop. Are there tutorials or documents
available in
> Libreoffice to plan,schedule,track and deliver this specific
> project. In simple terms project planning viz start date,end
> date,project
status, work
> in progress,done,pending etc ...

No, LibreOffice does not provide an equivalent to MS Projetc, for example.

Here's a useful list and comparison of free open source project
management software. You can sort by license to make it easier to
compare by such criteria:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_project-management_software

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Share-point?

[Fabian Rodriguez]

On 13-02-14 02:05 PM, Felmon Davis wrote:
> this thread is off-topic but I'll take advantage of it before it's
> cut: I would like a solution where
>
> a) individuals could upload documents to me
> b) they wouldn't be able to see each other's documents (unless I
> allowed it)
> c) should be either linux-based or agnostic. 

OwnCloud. Wait for version 5 though ("End of February"):
http://owncloud.org/

Cheers,

Fabian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Share-point?

[Fabian Rodriguez]

On 13-02-13 03:24 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Has anyone managed to get MS Sharepoint working with 4.0.0?  Apparently it's 
> one of the features that are supposed to be in the 4.0.0 although i have no 
> idea what SharePoint is nor why anyone would use it.  

Sharepoint needs to be configured with CMIS support, last I heard this
was not trivial.

Cedric Bosdonnat would know about this, I asked on IRC and he was
looking for someone with such a setup to test further.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How can I create a certificate border?

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Le 13-02-11 11:46 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a ?crit :
> On 02/11/2013 10:22 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Is there a way to create an elaborate border in LibreOffice/Draw? I'd
>> like to create a certficate. I tried searching for freely-licensed
>> templates for this and didn't find any.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help with this.
>>
>> F.
>>
>
> Fabian
>
> Not finding certificate borders is "weird". Last year I need some and
I found a lot.
>
> This one has a few template background images.
> http://all-free-download.com/free-vector/free-certificate-template.html

That one indicated:
"All of the resources are gathered by users and public sources on the
internet.
Not all of the resources are allowed for commercial use please contact
the author for detail
If resources have violated your copyright, please through feedback to us
so that we can delete a timely manner to protect you!
Copyright ? 2012 www.all-free-download.com"

There are TONS w/o any licensing information, that's the point.

>
> Some will require you to print to PDF file and then use Draw to import
it to create a JPG background image. But there are solutions.
>
> I also have found some in places like OpenClipart.org and other sites.
Sometimes there are listed under "borders".
>

Hadn't thought of OpenClipArt, thanks!

Le 13-02-11 12:22 PM, Marc Par? a ?crit :
> Bonjour Fabian,
>
> Sure, there are some templates that you can use on the AOO website
templates[1]. You can download some of these and then either use them or
use them as a base to mod your own.
>
> If you wonder how to download them, do the following:
[...]

Thanks for the details.
> [1] http://templates.services.openoffice.org/en/search/node/certificate

It's still weird that such borders can't actually be *created* within
LibreOffice. I was certain this was possible.

Cheers,

F.


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[libreoffice-users] How can I create a certificate border?

[Fabian Rodriguez]

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Hi

Is there a way to create an elaborate border in LibreOffice/Draw? I'd
like to create a certficate. I tried searching for freely-licensed
templates for this and didn't find any.

Thanks in advance for any help with this.

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] GPG public key

[Fabian Rodriguez]

On 13-02-01 08:25 PM, C. H. D. wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> I would appreciate it if there is an icon or a prominent sign showing the 
> public key.
> Where is the public key for this:
>
> gpg --import libreoffice.gpg
> gpg --verify libreoffice.asc  libreoffice.tar.gz
>
> ?
>
> If you give me the link: 
> http://.../.../.../gpg


You can obtain it from a public key server, for example:
$ gpg --keyserver hkp://keys.gnupg.net --recv-keys /AFEEAEA3/

It's also here:
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xF434A1EFAFEEAEA3

Cheers,

F.

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[libreoffice-users] The best cordless presenter for Impress? Logitech R-RB5 or..?

[Fabian Rodriguez]

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Hi,

A few years ago I went out to LinuxExpo (2008) and we needed a cordless
presenter. After testing about a dozen (I kid you not!) I found this gem:

Logitech R-RB5 2.4 GHz Cordless Presenter
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/support/175?crid=402

The range is crazy (I tested >100 m in open areas) and despite heavy
wifi interference it's always done very well in crowded conferences. It
also works out of the box in GNU/LInux (I primarily use Trisquel now, a
Debian derivative, but tested in many others).

It was expensive at the time (U$100) and it's been discontinued now in
favor of other models:
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/support/presenter

It can still be found on eBay and classified ads sites, though.

I was wondering if anyone here is using the other presenters Logitech
offers, specially in GNU/Linux. What has been your experience?

Anyways, if you look for a fantastic range and easy to use cordless
presenter, the above is my personal favorite.

Cheers,

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] SOT - ODF app for Android/Kindle?

[Fabian Rodriguez]

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Le 13-01-28 04:38 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker a ￩crit :
> I'm having huge difficulty in finding an app for my Kindle Fire that will 
> read and edit ODF
documents, which I find absolutely staggering!
> There's one I've found that will read ODF but not edit.
> Does anyone know of such an app?

AFAIK the only way to accomplish this is by importing in Google Docs,
editing with their application, and saving / exporting back to ODT.

F.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] PPA for 4.0rc1?

[Fabian Rodriguez]

On 13-01-20 06:15 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> It is possible to download LibreOffice directly from the official
> website.  It's available as a ".deb"  for Debian/Ubuntu family and
> then just install the download. 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_LibreOffice_on_Linux

I already do that, but I was certain I had seen somewhere there was a
different PPA for dev versions.

F.

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[libreoffice-users] PPA for 4.0rc1?

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Hello

Is there a PPA for LibreOffice 4 series yet?

F.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Thunderbird Address Book as Data Source

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On 13-01-19 07:06 PM, NoOp wrote:
> [..]
> I see; not trying to not shooting the messenger - thanks Alex ;-)
>
> So will this be yet another 'improvement feature' like removing the text
> boundaries[1] in Writer? Should we toss all of our pre-mork .odb's?
>
> [1]
> 
> Page Layout Guides (margins, headers, footers) No Longer Visible
>
That's been fixed, though it toook a few versions.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice is now on a "auto install auto update" system

[Fabian Rodriguez]

On 12-12-12 10:10 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> On 12/12/2012 09:57 AM, Joel Madero wrote:
>> On 12/12/2012 06:49 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I got an e-zine this morning about a package that is downloads,
>>> installs, and updates, a list of packages for you.
>>>
>>> I fount LibreOffice 3.6.4 listed.
>>>
>>> This statement is what worries me though:
>>>
>>> "No Clicking Next, Next, Next
>>> Ninite fully automates installers offscreen."
>>>
>>> See what you think.
>>>
>>> http://ninite.com/
>>>
>> When I used Windows years ago I used to ninite quite frequently, it's
>> just a small installer that then pulls the individual installers and
>> then goes through them automatically, pretty functional.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Joel
>>
>
> What I do not like it the statements that makes me feel that I have no
> control of how the packages are installed.  I always do a custom
> install of packages to make sure I only install things I want.  For
> LO, I make sure I install only the languages and dictionaries I want. 
> There are some packages that has a "default" of adding toolbars and
> other things to other packages, like browsers, that are not acceptable
> to my point of view.

It's extremely useful to build new Windows systems (ie mass installs).
It's not free open source though.

>
> I never heard of this "Ninite" so I did not know about how much
> "trust" I would give it.
>
> Also, does Windows LO still need a JRE installed BEFORE it gets
> installed?  Use to be yes.  If such a "auto install" system tries to
> install LO with no JRE installed first, then problems. . . .
So don't use it. Use one of the free open source alternatives,
testit/file a bug report to help fix/test it:
http://alternativeto.net/software/ninite/?license=opensource

F.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] A Tale of Two Office Suites

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Le 12-12-11 07:54 AM, VA a écrit :
> I'm obviously not communicating very well.
>
> I haven't had any "conflict between configuration profiles or during
normal usage that leads to a crash or data loss" from running all three
programs, so I currently have no reason to file any bug reports.
>
> So, again, my question.
>
> Why is it not advisable to run LO and AOO on the same system? What
harm does it do to my system?

Because you may have a "conflict between configuration profiles or
during normal usage *that leads to a crash* or data loss".

/ THAT LEADS TO A CRASH *** <--- POSSIBLE HARM TO YOUR SYSTEM*/ (ie.
software/OS normal operation)

If your data isn't critical, this won't matter much. I run similar
configurations on a Windows test system for example.

I believe in your very first post you also indicated the forks will
differ so much in the future that this won't remain practical/compatible
enough.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] A Tale of Two Office Suites

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Le 12-12-11 08:28 AM, Tom Davies a écrit :
> [...] Of the upwards of 60 million users using LO we have had just a few 
> score questions involving
a corrupted User Profile. Making about 0.0002% of users. So the odds are
about 99.9998% that you wont have a problem. If you are that unlucky
then you already know how to fix it easily. Also you already know how to
create a back-up before running into trouble.

When this happened, it hit me hard. I lost data. I had advised a bunch
of people to use LibO which was crashing and loosing data, 100% of the time.

This improves over time, but I generally prefer not increasing the odds
of that happening - such as running a beta concurrently with stable/AOO
version.

You make your luck too ;)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] A Tale of Two Office Suites

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Le 12-12-11 07:25 AM, VA a écrit :
> I'm sorry, but I still don't understand.
>
> What harm can it do to my system? Right now, I have LO 3.5.7, AOO
3.4.1 and the LO 4 Beta. I have seen no problems at all. All you've told
me is that it shouldn't be done and that you don't do it. Forgive me for
being dense, but I still don't know why?
>
> Virgil

I think you should.

If you find a conflict between configuration profiles or during normal
usage that leads to a crash or data loss, it would be appreciated if you
can file a bug on the three versions you run so they can be adjusted to
better coexist.

Keep in mind your use case is specific enough that there may not be
significant effort to getting it fixed, though.

Cheers,

Fabian


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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to edit MS doc(x) files without breaking it for MS?

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On 12-11-19 01:08 PM, enemy troep wrote:
> Hello!
>
> A girlfriend of mine was tired of windows and installed the latest Linux
> Mint on her netbook, which comes with libre office.
> Although Libre is working generally well, she noticed a problem when
> working with Docx and Doc.
> If the original file is made in LO, both LO and MS office can change it
> without problems.
> If the original file is made in MS office, then changed in LO, then MS
> office can no longer read it.
>
> After googling, it seems to be a bug in the later versions of LO / Open
> office.

Can you provide exact references? Very hard to help without them.

If it's a bug, it will need to get reproduced before anything else. You
may have to provide the document that has this problem (as it may be a
specific featrue provoking this).

[...]

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice in MacWorld Australia

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Le 12-10-11 06:48 PM, Andreas Säger a écrit :
> Am 11.10.2012 20:46, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> It would be nice to have a booth in a Windows version of the big
>> software shows that happen for Linux and Mac. But those booths may be
>> very expensive to "rent" for such an event.
>>
>
> Windows users can run MS Office easily and for little money (if any).
Why should they use LibreOffice if all they want is cheap MS Office?
Idealism? Masochism?

Mostly, common sense.

F.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Java & LibO: use version 6 for now if you must - was: What is the status of Java security?

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On 08/30/2012 02:14 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of it?:
>
http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-prompts-calls-to-disable-java/
>
> I never install Java when I install LibreOffice, but a few people end up
> installing it.
[..]

I asked about this to Canonical support. Here is their reply with
regards to Ubuntu:
"OpenJDK 7 is affected too. Please note that in Precise and Oneiric,
openjdk-7 is in universe, so updating it is not a priority [ for
Canonical]. So in the meantime use OpenJDK 6."

Knowing Oracle's strict updates schedule, version 7 won't have updates
before next month, which may then take some time to reach the proper
community channels.

This echoes the recommendations I've seen here to user version 6 as its
more stable with LibO.

Thanks for all the replies,

Fabián Rodríguez
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[libreoffice-users] What is the status of Java security vs. LibreOffice?

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Hi all

I saw this a few days ago, I'd like to know what should I make of it?:
http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/critical-flaw-under-active-attack-prompts-calls-to-disable-java/

I never install Java when I install LibreOffice, but a few people end up
installing it.

I have seen a few threads about it in the fr-discuss list, but nothing
clear/concise (although I may have missed a post or two).

Thanks for any information.

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installed by default on recycled computers

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On 08/30/2012 08:45 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> On 08/30/2012 07:44 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
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>> On 08/29/2012 03:29 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>>> 1] Haitian Creole - Kreyòl Ayisyen - Korektè Òtograf Kreyòl (KÒK)
>>> The file [...]is a part of the NA-DVD
>> I noticed, however it is outdated [...]
>
> How about having students in Haiti work on it? [...]

That's the goal of LibrePlanet Haïti: get local help/exposure for such
projects. Internet access is not widespread, though, so collaboration
via mailing list/online is not as effective and quick as elsewhere. The
same work that can be done for LibO will be happening for other
projects, so I hope to get more people connected via LP Haiti and take
it from there. Above all, I hope someone local leads that :)

>
> As for the NA-DVD distro, I have no problems with people taking it and
using it as the starting point for creating their own version. Take out
the parts not needed and adding those that are. I have been told that
other "groups" have done that over the past year or so since the NA-DVD
has been online.

Of course, but given the limited resources and time, translating all of
it to Creole is impractical, if even possible.
Even updating the current systems and LibreOffice or having up-to-date
installers will prove challenging.

[...]

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installed by default on recycled computers

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On 08/29/2012 03:29 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>
> 1] Haitian Creole - Kreyòl Ayisyen - Korektè Òtograf Kreyòl (KÒK)
> The file [...]is a part of the NA-DVD

I noticed, however it is outdated :( That extension seemed abandoned
until I got in touch with its main dev - I am trying to get him to list
it on the official LibO site, update it, etc. I didn't distribute many
copies of the NA-DVD as it was in English and contained too many files
that were not directly relevant. I am thinking how I can contribute to
improve this.

> 2] Good Job - going to Haiti to help out over there.

Thanks! It's really easy to work there as free software in general is
highly compatible with values they already have: sharing, helping,
improving, re-sharing, etc.

[..]

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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice installed by default on recycled computers

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Hi

I am happy to announce that all PCs recycled at MicroRecycCoop (MRC) in
Montreal have been shipping with LibreOffice for some months now:
http://microrecyc.wordpress.com/

A couple of weeks ago I came back from a trip to Haiti where my mandata
was to deliver + install a 50 PC lab and network, whil etraining local
staff + students. They had LibreOffice for Windows pre-installed on all
PCs, in addition to being dual-boot Ubuntu / Trisquel systems which
already included LibreOffice. This all started when I went into MRC's
office and starting talking to its owner about putting GNU/Linux and
LibO on their systems... :) After a year or so I am happy to see the
results!

The school I went to is part of a network of several buildings & schools
where I had the opportunity to have similar discussions and sometimes
leave copies of LibO and GNU/Linux live CDs.

I also copied / gave away ~60 copies of the installers during several
workshops there, it turned out great. I didn't know there is a spelling
dictionary for creole! That extension for LibreOffice and other
free-software related projects are listed here now:
http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ayiti

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
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Re: [libreoffice-users] now can Purchase a NA-DVD

[Fabian Rodriguez]

On 07/20/2012 10:08 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:


Thanks to Drew, we now have a service that will "print-on-demand" a 
copy of the LibreOffice North American Community DVD - version 3.5.5.


Here is a link for a direct retail page:
http://kunaki.com/sales.asp?PID=PX00B1FF2L
**Kunaki handles all the payment collection.**


[...]

Well done, Drew! I had been researching manufacturers, this is the same 
used by Raphael Hertzog to distribute his Debian remix:

http://raphaelhertzog.com/products/debian-cd-dvd/

I had that in my personal ToDo for a while 
(http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD#ToDo), glad 
you're validating it. If/when you have a sample of what they ship, it'd 
be important to have pictures. I'll order one to carry it and use as a 
demo. I plan to finish my local design and use the same ship by september.


Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
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Re: [libreoffice-users] North American DVD 3.5.5 now online on LO's servers/mirrors

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On 07/18/2012 08:04 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>
> The LibreOffice North American Community DVD Project's 3.5.5-1 DVD is
now online at LO's download pages. [..]

Most excellent news!

I am going to Haïti for an IT project that includes some LibreOffice
training. I will be burning a few DVDs and bring the ISO image with me :)

Many thanks for your contributions!

Cheers,

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[libreoffice-users] How to export the bibliography DB to Zotero?

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Hi

I have a database of ~3000 entries that I would like to export to Zotero.

What would be the recommended way of doing this? I can't seem to find
such information in Zotero forums. I thought I'd ask here as I know my
way around LibreOffice better than Zotero.

This seems like a similar problem although it describes importing from
the bibliography *text*, not the OOo/LibO database:
http://www.zotero.org/support/kb/importing_formatted_bibliographies

At ~3000 entries, it's impractical to create a new document with *all*
entries, not to mention (most possible) data missing when reimporting that.

A friend mentioned using RDF as an intermediary format, or .bib, but
again I would have to have a document with all my references (this
doesn't import all refs from the database AFAIK):
http://www.estm.co.uk/blog/software/export-openoffice-writer-bibliography-to-zotero.html

Any information on how to do this would be appreciated.

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Signing Documents with a personal Certificate

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On 06/21/2012 09:54 AM, James Knott wrote:
> Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
>> *The bottom line is if you don't want the warnings, can't afford the
>> time to explain them, and have the money, pay a commercial provider and
>> realize you are trusting some unknown corporation (rather than yourself
>> and the combination of CACerts' web of trust).* If you think trusting
>> any corporation is better, just search for "ssl certificates stolen" and
>> you'll see what I mean.
>
> I used to use certificates provided by Thawte. They also had a web of
trust, but their certificates were included in various browsers. It was
also a free service for personal use, until Verisign bought them.
>
> BTW, Thawte was started by the same guy who started the Ubuntu Linux
distro, Mark Shuttleworth.
>

That's a good example of how a corporation will act for its shareholders
first. I doubt CaCert is going away anytime soon.

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Signing Documents with a personal Certificate

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On 06/21/2012 07:56 AM, James Knott wrote:
> Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
>> Please notice the typo. It looks like James used cecert.org.
>
> No I didn't. I used https, which checks the certificate for the site.
If you can't trust their certificate, you can't trust any certificate
they provide. If I go to that site with only http, then I don't get an
error, but only because their certificate is not verified.
>
>

I realize I should have provided some more detail.

Perhaps CaCert is just not for you. If you want identity assurance,
CaCert is *definitely not for you*:
"[...]certificates are considered weak because CAcert does not emit any
information in the certificates other than the domain name or email
address (the /CommonName/ field in X.509 certificates)."

CACert's root certificate can't afford to be included in some browsers, see:
"Traditionally vendors seeking to have their root certificates included
in browsers (directly or via the underlying OS infrastructure like
Safari via OS X's Keychain) would have to seek an expensive Webtrust
<http://www.webtrust.org/> audit (~$75,000 up-front plus ~$10,000 per
year). While achievable for commercial CAs who typically charge per
certificate year, this is typically out of the reach of non-profit
organisations like CAcert. "
http://wiki.cacert.org/InclusionStatus

That's why you see the warning messages (again, read them carefully,
they are not security breaches or "hacking" proof).

Self-signed certificates have specific uses (and pros/cons), see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-signed_certificates

Please read the Wikipedia article I've linked before, it has important,
summarized information if you can't read all of CACert's detailed
documentation and rules:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cacert

It's not some trivial subject, sorry I can't elaborate forever on this.

*The bottom line is if you don't want the warnings, can't afford the
time to explain them, and have the money, pay a commercial provider and
realize you are trusting some unknown corporation (rather than yourself
and the combination of CACerts' web of trust).* If you think trusting
any corporation is better, just search for "ssl certificates stolen" and
you'll see what I mean.

Best,

Fabian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Signing Documents with a personal Certificate

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On 06/21/2012 05:08 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> +1
> Looks dodgy from here too. I dunno how to contact them to tell them
their site appears to have been compromised. I've not been aware of
using them before anyway.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>

Please notice the typo. It looks like James used cecert.org.

CaCert is a long-time recognized organization, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cacert

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
http://libreoffice.magicfab.ca

>
> --- On Thu, 21/6/12, Andreas Säger  wrote:
>
> From: Andreas Säger 
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Signing Documents with a personal
Certificate
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Thursday, 21 June, 2012, 9:29
>
> Am 21.06.2012 07:47, Marc Grober wrote:
>> https://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=1
>>
>> On 6/20/12 6:14 PM, James Knott wrote:
>>> Marc Grober wrote:
>>>> get a cert from CACert.org
>>>
>>> Hmmm...
>>>
>>> I just tried going to that site and got this:
>>>
>>> "This Connection is Untrusted
>>>
>>> You have asked Firefox to connectsecurely to www.cacert.org, but we can't
>>> confirm that your connection is secure.
>>>
>>> Normally, when you try to connect securely, sites will present trusted
>>> identification
>>> to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this site's
>>> identity can't be
>>> verified.
>>>
>
> From my perspective cacert.org is a hacked site. My Firefox issues the
> same warning about untrusted connection.
> As soon as I use the unencrypted connection ...
>
>> http://www.cecert.org/index.php?id=1
>
> ... I'm prompted for all kinds of personal information.
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...

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On 06/20/2012 06:39 AM, Walther Koehler wrote:
> High Tom,
>
> yes PDF is free meaning you have not to pay in advance, a least as you use
> only basic functions and its not a commercial use. But what when you
receive
> a document with special features?
Ask for another format, or ask to file the same document in some other
way. Complain, complain, complain. Be very precise about why it's not a
good practice to do that.
>
> Its the same situation I had at the university long time ago: At this time
> MSWord was "free" in the sense that nobody cared where you get your
license
> from, and all students used it and requesetd its use in their offces later
> on.
>
> Walther

To the extent that LibreOffice integrates PDF import and export
functions, there isn't much point in extending this discussion much
longer unless one can propose a valid, better/equivalent alternative. I
personally think an online implementation (via web forms+database/email)
is better suited for this specific case. I can't see a good reason to
use PDF forms except in exceptionally highly custom-formatted scenarios.
Then again, if your questionnaire requires such formatting it may
benefit from some simplification. Here's a list of possible technical
issues of using PDF:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pdf#Technical_issues

If and when there is absolutely no alternative to using a PDF, I'd
suggest you point your audience to this resource for a good, free+open
source PDF reader:
http://pdfreaders.org/

Adobe's reader software is notoriously bloated, and the frequent updates
are there because the reader includes several other dozen formats that
Adobe wants to be readable on every system it's installed on (in
addition to advanced features only available in commercial versions)

What about patents and openness of the PDF standard? This page provides
such details:
http://pdfreaders.org/os.en.html

Microsoft licenses are vey much 100% free and legal to obtain by
students/faculty staff pretty much worldwide now:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DreamSpark_Premium

It's not the same situation with MS software although I see your point.
No Microsoft software is considered an ISO standard and there aren't
100% free open source software implementations of any MS software that I
know of as is the case with the PDF format, so I'd be use such examples
with care - otherwise you'll get the opposite effect when trying to
advocate free, open standards.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] We want to create a questionnaire...

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On 06/19/2012 09:10 PM, JenS8 wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We want to create a questionaire that people can fill out on their
> computer and email back to us when complete.
>
> How can we create a document with the following properties:
>
> 1. When person clicks on a blank, they can type in their answer, and
> the "underline characters" [ ___ ] don't move to the right
> 2. We want some parts of the form to be uneditable. For example, the
> headers, the instructions, the text that says what we expect in every
> blank.
> 3.The document can be saved when completed, or even when partially
completed
> 4. Check-boxes can be clicked on
> 5.Radio buttons (multiple choice) can be clicked on
> 6.The document is universal:
> a. People using Windows, Mac, Linux, Playbook, tablets can work on the
> form
> b. People don't have to download a special program to fill the form

Why do you want to do this with LibreOffice?

This strikes me as something relatively simple to do on a web site.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Release Notes LibO 3.5.4.2

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On 05/30/2012 11:58 PM, Daniel Gonzalez wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Someone could tell me where I can see the list of fixes and new
features in LibO 3.5.4.2
>
> thanks
>
Right from the announcement at
http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2012/05/30/the-document-foundation-announces-libreoffice-3-5-4/
:

" Change logs are available at
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.5.4/RC1 and
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.5.4/RC2 ".

Saludo cordial,

Fabián Rodríguez
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Re: [libreoffice-users] is there an Open office equivalent to Visio 2000

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On 12-05-25 12:23 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Have you tried Draw in LibreOffice 3.5.3? I know it can handle some
Visio Files
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
Related:
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/374854/no-free-visual-studio-for-windows-8-desktop-developers

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Re: [libreoffice-users] No QuickStarter? (Linux)

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On 12-05-20 09:41 AM, minhsien0330 wrote:
> Dear all:
> I tried "soffice --quickstart", but Libreoffice still not showed the
> quickstarter.
> Any suggestion?
>

What distribution are you using?

QuickStarter was at the origin of a rather nasty bug that prevented
shutting down/logging out as reported in this Ubuntu bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/562027

It's resolved now, but unless you're using LibO 3.5.0 or greater, you
won't have the fix. I can't say if that's the same for other non-Debian
derivatives, though.

What are your reasons for using QuickStarter in GNU/Linux?

If it's only for faster startup speed, remember memory is treated
different than Windows. Even in the slowest environments, once
LibreOffice has loaded once (any component: Writer, Calc, etc), the next
times the startup time improves a lot. You can use a workaround in
Ubuntu to accomplish this for first-time run and get that "oh, it loads
fast" *perception*, specially if you turn off the system often (which
negates the benefits of memory caching during a single session). I may
be oversimplifying a bit here, hoping the point comes across.

See this workaround, should work in other Debian derivatives too:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/562027/comments/120

Other simple optimizations include using RAM as storage, mounting /tmp
in RAM, using SSD storage, etc. - with varying levels of care required
:) Don't do this unless you're running LibO 3.5.1 or greater or you may
hit this one too with worse results (data loss):
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/817326

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[libreoffice-users] ePub?

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Hi,

I remember some time ago a thread about publish to the ePub format from
LibreOffice, I can't seem to find it.

Is anyone doing this with good results? What would be the best workflow
to go about this?

Thanks in advance for any hints about this.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Legacy Base reports won't open in LibreOffice 3.5

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On 12-05-03 06:07 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> The marketing list believes the 3.5.x branch is more stable than the
3.4.6. There is not much we can do about that on this list. You need to
take this to the marketing list as they are the ones that are psuhing
people into using the 3.5.x before many of us feel it is ready.
>
> If you are finding problems with 3.5.x then install 3.4.6.
>
> Btw sorry about the tone of this email i am getting a lot of flak from
the marketing list for daring to disagree with them.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
Another more important problem is the 3.4.6 will soon be "Enf of Life"
(or already is).

If someone finds problems in 3.5.x we need to get bug reports before
they install 3.4.6 again. Some times acceptable workarounds are found,
other times when a regression is confirmed the bugx fix may come very
quickly. It's a compromise, and everyone should decide by themselves.

"The Marketing list" is not a compact body of unified opinions, so
please don't jump to conclusions as to what anyone there can do or not.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] LibreOffice 3.5.3 article

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On 12-05-02 11:07 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
>
> I've written an article about the new LibreOffice release:
> À l'occasion de la sortie de la nouvelle version de LibreOffice j'ai
> préparé ce billet:
>
> http://www.fabianrodriguez.com/blog/?p=4786

I forgot to mention, this is (for now) the first article in Planet Ubuntu:
http://planet.ubuntu.com/

F.

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[libreoffice-users] LibreOffice 3.5.3 article

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I've written an article about the new LibreOffice release:
À l'occasion de la sortie de la nouvelle version de LibreOffice j'ai
préparé ce billet:

http://www.fabianrodriguez.com/blog/?p=4786

Remember the LibreOffice PPA for Ubuntu can be used directly in Trisquel
5.5.
Prenez note que le PPA de LibreOffice pour Ubuntu peut être utilisé
directement dans
Trisquel 5.5.

Bonne journée,

Fabian Rodriguez
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Basic Package of LibreOffice to Download

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On 12-05-01 09:06 AM, Daniel Morgan wrote:
> I noticed the Windows Installer for LibreOffice 3.5.2 is 202MB which
takes a while to download.
>
> Is it possible to have a "lite" version of LibreOffice that only includes
> the word processor and spreadsheet? The other LibreOffice apps I do not
use.
>
> I understand the windows installer can allow me to pick and choose what
> apps I want to install, but this is after I have downloaded the big
> Windows Installer.
>
> Daniel

That's not such a bad idea, and it's not the first time I see this kind
of request.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LOo 3.5.1.2 upgrade in Ubuntu Natty does not 'see' old templates

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Le 12-04-10 02:41 AM, John D. Herron a écrit :
> My new LOo 3.5.1.2 (Build ID: 350m1(Build:102) auto-upgraded under
Ubuntu Natty (via Update Manager) from the earlier 3.4.5 version.
>
> The suite works well overall, but I do miss my old (custom) templates
which the new version's template manager does not see.
> (I also miss the Recent Documents list, but that's another story). [...]
The bug was filed some time ago in Ubuntu, it's now considered "opinion"
:(. See:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/950794

- From the upstream bug report:
"IMHO this package [fix] will never provided. We have too few developers
to do all necessary work. Sorry for such situation. Please, move this
file (but not delete meanwhile) and configure LibreOffice from scratch
(anew)."

Here is some more information about the profile directory:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12426

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ubuntu 12.04 LTS [final beta] includes LO 3.5.1.2

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Le 12-04-11 05:00 AM, Tom Davies a écrit :
> Hi :)
> I generally get details like that from DistroWatch
> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
> Details about each and every package included in a distro is beyond the
scope of a decent press release announcing the new release. Also why
would TDF keep a record of what each distro uses?
>
Distrowatch really isn't for that.

For Ubuntu I've been documenting that here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice
It's also the first result in most search engines if you search "Ubuntu
LibreOffice".

You can also check here:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libreoffice&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all

Debian and other derivatives have similar sites:
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libreoffice&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all
http://packages.trisquel.info/search?keywords=libreoffice&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all
(actually, identical)

TDF could keep a record to distribution-specific records/links such as
the above, I think it's useful, but ultimately it's each distro's job to
make that information available (which they do, see above).

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Sending mail merged document to email

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Le 12-04-11 03:03 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker a écrit :
> On 09/04/2012 13:01, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>> LO 3.5.2.2
>> I am trying to send a mail-merged document direct to email and some
rather baffling occurrences present themselves.
>>
>> 1. It seems that LO uses it's own mail sending function rather than
the default email client that is installed on my machine! What on earth
is that all about? Why doesn't it just call my default email client?
>>
>> 2. As my email address is GMail, the GMail smtp server uses TLS
authentication.
>> There is NO option to select TLS for the sept server in the built-in
LO mailing function.
>>
>> So it seems that I cannot mail merge a document from LO direct to email.
>>
>> Great.
>
> OK, if no-one's going to respond to this, where do I file a bug for this?
>
Hi,

Using GMail for a mail merge campaign is probably not ideal, there are
important restrictions:
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=22839

In any case, I'd agree this is a missing configuration option. You can
follow this process to file a bug report:
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=22839

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recent Documents again.

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On 12-03-06 01:45 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
> On 06/03/12 14:32, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
>> On 12-03-06 06:29 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
>>> I uninstalled and reverted to 3.4.5 -
>>
>> See:
>>
http://ask.libreoffice.org/question/254/why-is-the-recent-documents-list-empty-in-35
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
> I don't HAVE 3.5 - I reverted to 3.4.5
>

I got that, but you were using 3.5 before which may have set registry
values as described in the link I provided. You can try that too, if
everything else fails.

F.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Recent Documents again.

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On 12-03-06 06:29 AM, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:
> I installed version 3.5 on Windows 7 until I discovered the Recent
Documents "feature"!
> I uninstalled and reverted to 3.4.5 - I still have no "Recent
Documents". Is there a setting (in the registry possibly?) I have to
change, (or delete or create?)
>

See:
http://ask.libreoffice.org/question/254/why-is-the-recent-documents-list-empty-in-35

Cheers,

F.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Training

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On 12-02-23 08:28 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> On 02/22/2012 01:13 PM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
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>> On 12-02-21 02:16 PM, Deon Barnard wrote:
>>> I have just loaded LibreOffice and would like to know if there are any
>>> training offered, downloads,etc. especially in Calc.
>>>
>>> Thank you kindly
>>>
>>> Deon Barnard
>>>
>> Hi Deon,
>>
>> I'd encourage you to search on the web for "OpenOffice.org training" and
>> contact whoever provides such training clearly indicating your goals,
>> budget (or lack thereof) and timelines. If someone already offers free
>> or paid training for OOo, there are high chances they will consider
>> adapting their material or using the existing material from LibreOffice
>> to help you.
>>
>> I had a good experience in the pas with Solveig Haugland -
>>
http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2008/01/contact-me-for-consulting-time.html.
>> You can also try Lanedo in Germany http://www.lanedo.com/libreoffice.html
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Fabián Rodríguez
>> http://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:MagicFab
>
> I know there are training, free training, sited for LibreOffice out
there. I remember seeing one or two a few months ago. After LO became
the office package for Linux distros, I started to see links that were
LO training.
>
> If we tell people to use OOo training for LO, would the just encourage
the users to try OOo and use it?

Please read again carefully. I didn't advise to seek OOo training, but
rather OOo /trainers/. LibO being a close relative, they will most
probably consider adding it (or replacing OOo) to their offering.

>
> By going to Google, I found a few sites that offer training in/with
LibreOffice. Yes OOo training has more links, but it has been around for
a longer time. Last year there were posts about training offerings for LO.
>
> SO if a person wants LO training, give that person references to LO
training, not OOo. Offer that person the links to our Guides and other
documentation.
>
Guide and documentation are, at most, self-learning, not training.

Sorry if I assumed you meant human-led training ;)

F.



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[libreoffice-users] Batch conversion of PPT/x and DOC/x documents ?

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Hi,

I can't seem to find how to batch convert PPT (or pptx) and DOC (or
docx) documents by command line. Can someone point me to tested
instructions on how to do this ?

Thanks for any pointers.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Training

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On 12-02-21 02:16 PM, Deon Barnard wrote:
> I have just loaded LibreOffice and would like to know if there are any
> training offered, downloads,etc. especially in Calc.
>
> Thank you kindly
>
> Deon Barnard
>

Hi Deon,

I'd encourage you to search on the web for "OpenOffice.org training" and
contact whoever provides such training clearly indicating your goals,
budget (or lack thereof) and timelines. If someone already offers free
or paid training for OOo, there are high chances they will consider
adapting their material or using the existing material from LibreOffice
to help you.

I had a good experience in the pas with Solveig Haugland -
http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2008/01/contact-me-for-consulting-time.html.
You can also try Lanedo in Germany http://www.lanedo.com/libreoffice.html

Cheers,

Fabián Rodríguez
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

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On 12-02-14 02:36 PM, noibs wrote:
> Here's the best workaround that I've discovered so far.
[...]

You could also enable the grid:

Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > Grid > Visible Grid

I'd consider the lack of an option to make the actual margins visible a
regression bug.

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LO 3.5 - Can't see page margins in Writer

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On 12-02-14 02:36 PM, noibs wrote:
> Here's the best workaround that I've discovered so far.
[...]

You could also enable the grid:

Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > Grid > Visible Grid

I'd consider the lack of an option to make the actual margins visible a
regression bug.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Install extension multiuser (solve avoid StartCenter?)

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On 12-02-14 11:21 AM, Eduardo Maldonado wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> First, I think I sended this mail prior, but I not sure. Excuse me if
> repited.
>
> I need install some extension in my Libreoffice multiuser installation, for
> do it accesible for all user.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=90815#c12
>
> This extension avoid StartCenter for each user.
>
> How can I to install in the default directory, without to install user by
> user?
>
> Thanks.
>
What version (Gnu/Linux, Windows, Mac OS) and why are you launching the
StartCenter ? What are you trying to accomplish ?

If you want to have LibO apps loading faster there are other ways than
to lauch the StartCenter.

Cheers,

Fabian



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[libreoffice-users] OwnCloud 3 released, "ODT is planned for future releases"

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Hi,

A couple of weeks ago OwnCloud 3 was released:

"The Internet ? January 27, 2012 ? ownCloud, the popular open source
file, sync and share project announced today improvements to
functionality and stability which will enable users to get more than
ever out of their privately-hosted and owned file-sharing cloud.

Released today and available for download now, ownCloud Version 3
enables users to share files and folders with others from their
privately controlled infrastructure. Major new features in this release
include the introduction of an application store which allows users to
take advantage of the extensibility of owncloud; and the ability to
directly edit text files from a browser. ownCloud is the only technology
to offer such functionality, made possible because of its open and
modular nature."

This bit caught my attention, specially the last sentence:

"ownCloud Version 3 gives users the unique ability to access and edit
documents in multiple ways. Users can access files directly if ownCloud
is mounted via WebDAV, access them offline if the file is synced locally
with
the upcoming syncing client, or access and edit files directly from within
a browser with the new text editor.

The browser based text editor supports 35 programming languages for syntax
highlighting, drag and drop text, automatic indent and
outdent, unstructured / user code folding and live syntax checker (for
JavaScript, Coffee and CSS). The editor is based on the ACE
JavaScript Editor. The editor supports basic text fles. Editing more
advanced formats like doc(x) and ODT is planned for future releases."

Cheers,

Fabián Rodríguez
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[libreoffice-users] Window focus bug when importing a file into Calc

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Hi

Before reporting this as a bug I wanted to know if Mac and Gnu/Linux
users can reproduce it

The problem: When importing a text file into Calc (eg. CSV), the import
dialog does not steal focus as expected

This only happend when LibO is already open in the background with
another document. As a result, on a busy desktop, the window does not
show up and it can be interpreted as if nothing happened.

Steps to reproduce in Windows Libo 3.5rc2:

1) Open any valid document with LibO, move it to background/non visible
screen (when in multiple screen setup)
2) Create a text file with anything in it
3) While having the explorer on top of all application, "Open With.."
the newly created file with Calc
4) A window asking questions to finish the import will show up *under*
the current file explorer window

Thanks for any confirmations.

F.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] So what's with LibO 3.5?

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On 12-01-11 03:53 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
> Greetings
>
> I've been seeing libO 3.5 on this list and I'm now curious. What is in
this 3.5 that should make me peep? What changed and what does the user
stand to benefit from the changes?
>
> I like bleeding edge, there's got to be a good excuse to dive in first.
Can someone enlighten me? I use 3.4.4 at the moment.
> -
> from twohot@device.mobile :)
>

In Windows and Mac versions, there the update/notification mechanism is
back. I know a few friends & colleagues that use Windows / Mac who will
appreciate this :)

F.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

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On 12-01-11 09:49 AM, MiguelAngel wrote:
[...]
>
> As I know, LibreOffice in Windows it's compiled only for 32-bits.
> Only 32-bit JRE works in LibreOffice for windows.

Actually I think I won't install JRE at all, as Base is not a
requirement in this particular installation I am doing.

Regardless, I'd still like to know what's the recommended JRE to install
in a 64-bit Windows environment.

I didn't find a source for your indication that "Only 32-bit JRE works
in LibreOffice for windows". In fact JRE as a requirement for
LibreOffice (Base or else) is not listed at all under the requirements:
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/system-requirements/

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Re: [libreoffice-users] So what's with LibO 3.5?

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On 12-01-11 03:53 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote:
> Greetings
>
> I've been seeing libO 3.5 on this list and I'm now curious. What is in
this 3.5 that should make me peep? What changed and what does the user
stand to benefit from the changes?
>
> I like bleeding edge, there's got to be a good excuse to dive in first.
Can someone enlighten me? I use 3.4.4 at the moment.
> -
> from twohot@device.mobile :)
>
Visio import alone seems like a huge addition.

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[libreoffice-users] Best JRE for LibreOffice on a 64-bit system: 32 or 64 bit ?

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Hi,

This may sound obvious but I am not certain of the answer and wanted to
double-check here.

When installting LibreOffice for Windows for use on a 64-bit system, is
it best to install the 32-bit or the 64-bit JRE ?

Thanks for any information on this.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Latest version?

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On 12-01-06 11:54 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> On 01/06/2012 11:05 AM, Fabian Rodriguez wrote:
> 
>> Staying on the subject, the download page is confusing, advertising two
>> "final" versions, without hinting at the differences.
>> [...]
> How about
> 3.3.4 - Business version - the old reliable version
> 3.4.4 / 3.4.5 - Personal version and cutting edge business version
> 3.5.0 - must cutting edge version for experiments.

"Current" version and "Development" should be the only ones clearly
advertised. Perhaps "older versions" is somtimes useful.

In fact "Development" should not be anywhere near the download page, at
least not after > 1 yr. of releases.

I am certainly not using nor recommending 3.3.4 after all the bug fixes
I find in the later versions. Why would I ?

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Latest version?

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On 12-01-06 10:10 AM, Pedro wrote:
>
> Fabián Rodríguez-2 wrote
>>
>> The varied replies and sources of information indicate this is not
>> clear, so yes, we can expect this question to come often. That's often a
>> hint to improve the information available.
>>
>
> Fabian, did you bother to click on the link I provided?

No, I assumed you meant what you wrote initially. The Op didn't ask the
same question, he most probably sent the same message twice by mistake.

> When an answer is not clear people ask for more details. They don't simply
> open a NEW TOPIC to ask EXACTLY the same question. I think the OP didn't
> bother to read any of the answers given yesterday...
>

Right, that should've been a hint that it was probably an honest mistake
- which is not uncommon on mailing lists. What if he didn't read the
answers ? They are now there, searchable, available for others.

I am actually surprised mailing lists are found by most users. Bothering
to register here and post if a huge effort for most people I know use
computers, I'd never ask them to do that - much less grab my virtual
baseball bat and hit them when they somehow fail at any implicit rules.

Staying on the subject, the download page is confusing, advertising two
"final" versions, without hinting at the differences.

F.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Latest version?

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On 12-01-06 09:53 AM, Pedro wrote:
> Are you going to ask this every day?
>
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Latest-version-tt3634798.html
>
>

The varied replies and sources of information indicate this is not
clear, so yes, we can expect this question to come often. That's often a
hint to improve the information available.

I'd rather have frequent repetitive questions than frequent repetitive
failed installs (aka "sorry, not trying that again" users).

Right now I am advising people who ask me to wait for 3.5 which will
most likely incorporate many bug fixes that will improve first-time
users experiences.

F.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Android

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On 12-01-05 07:37 AM, Nina Wilson wrote:
> I am currently looking into getting an Android tablet, but need to run
some sort of MS Powerpoint type thing. My specific problem in finding a
suitable application, is that I need to be able to produce decent
graphics and most existing applications for Android don't support this.
It looks like Impress does.
>
> I found news articles saying that Libre Office may be available for
Android later this year. Could you clarify that is the case, also if
that will include Impress with reasonable graphics capability. Could you
also say if there is likely to be certain minimum hardware requirements
for the tablet?
>
> Many Thanks
> Nina Wilson
>
If you want to present/render presentations, I'd suggest printing to
PDF, then you can use a free viewer.

Sounds obvious until you try it :)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Question Concerning your product

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On 12/22/2011 10:41 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> [...]
>> Personally i think all those Dvd projects should be hosted on TDF and
LibreOffice servers in addition to other places if possible. While they
aren't, there is an element of suspicion for people that are not
familiar with the personalities involved. Those of us that do know you
have good reason to trust you. My understanding is that the Dvd projects
are there mainly for people to make Dvds in bulk in order to sell or
distribute at events and such rather than being for the general public.
Regards from
[...]

Trust no one but the MD5 sums. I include all of them for every single
file I put on LibO DVDs I distribute. I've also provided the simple
commands needed to do that recursively for a file tree:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User:MagicFab/LibODVD#Files

MD5 sums don't provide ultimate proof the files are OK, but you get the
idea.

They help proving the file I distribute are identical to the files on
the web site, so if/when anyone brings that point up, the discussion is
rather short.

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO North American Community DVD - ISO is now online

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On 12/12/2011 02:14 PM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
>
> OK people
> Here is an ISO of the North American Community DVD [English version].
> It is about 3.6 GB in size.
>
> It is for Windows, Linux [.deb and .rpm], and MacOSX [PPC and x86/Intel].
>
> For those who can, please download it and burn your own copy. Let us
know what you think. Use it to make your own, if you need to, for the
events you go to. See what your friends think. It is filled with all the
documentation, dictionaries, etc., that will get people started to using
LibreOffice.
>
> http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/3.4.4/libo3.4.4-NA-DVD-WLM-Dec-3-2011.iso
>
> If there is any problems, or issues let us know. We need the
community's input to make it better.
>
Sounds great! I am getting it while I write this.

Is there a specific bug tracker /wiki where I should log any
suggestions/problems ?

Thanks a lot, can't wait to try it!

Cheers,

Fabian Rodriguez
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Re: [libreoffice-users] How to switch from apt-get to ppa install

[Fabian Rodriguez]

On 02/28/2011 12:17 PM, Olwe Melwasul wrote:
> I've looked around some, but I'm getting mixed messages. I currently
> have LibreOffice 3.3.0 OOO330m19 (Build:6) installed on my computer, but I
> would like to go with PPA.
>
> Here's one advisor's advice:
>
> sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*.*
> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get install libreoffice
>
> My current install was done with apt-get:
>
> sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/en-US/DEBS/*.deb
> sudo dpkg -i
> ~/Desktop/en-US/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice3.3-debian-menus_3.3-9526_all.deb
> etc.
>
> What should I do to switch over to PPA install/updating. I'm on Ubuntu
> 10.04/Gnome, BTW.
>
Hi Olwe,

That's pretty much it. You may also want to
rm -r ~/.libreoffice
(just to make sure every setting is reset)

You can also check this doc:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice

Come back if you have any questions.

Cheers,

Fabian

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Ubuntu - "don't install LibreOffice manually from the ".deb" files"

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On 11-02-09 10:13 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> Le 09/02/11 15:44, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit :
>>
> 
>> Yes, it will be much easier to keep up-to-date when LibreOffice is in
>> its repository and then find that there is an update shown in the daily,
>> weekly, etc., update schedule that you set in your update manager.  But
>> there will be a time lag between LibreOffice's updates on their web site
>> and Ubuntu's repository.  So, the "no not install manually" statement
>> may be taken the wrong way be some users as if there is something wrong
>> with LibreOffice's own downloads.
>>
> 
> Plus the fact that there are bugs in the Ubuntu version of LibO that are
> not present in the official version.
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> 

Hi Alex,

What bugs exactly ? It would be very useful to include references or
details when you make such comments.

Tomorrow is "Ubuntu bug day" for LibO and OOo. I'd welcome any help
reporting/reproducing any LibO bugs in Ubuntu (and vice versa), as well
as "upstream" at Freedesktop.org. If you're talking about packaging
bugs, why, yes, it's not perfect yet. Some bugs are also only now coming
up when people use stuff like Unity.

see:
http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu/You-re-Invited-This-Week-s-Ubuntu-Bug-Day-LibreOffice-and-OpenOffice

Cheers,

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Ubuntu - "don't install LibreOffice manually from the ".deb" files"

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On 11-02-09 09:44 AM, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions wrote:
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice
> 
> Ubuntu's site states:
> 
> quote: "If you're using Ubuntu, don't install LibreOffice manually from
> the ".deb" files available at LibreOffice.org
> . Otherwise you will not get
> automatic updates & upgrades when new versions come out and you will be
> missing the integration to Ubuntu. Using official packages also ensures
> you get the best assistance from the community as this is the
> recommended method to install & use LibreOffice in Ubuntu"
> 
> They want you to use the PPA link or their repository for the latest
> updates.

Hi there - I initially wrote the above documentation. Using the PPA is
only needed for 10.04LTS and 10.10.

It also states:
"A PPA is always considered a third-party application and unfit for
production purposes (as far as official commercial support goes),
however LibreOffice is becoming part of Ubuntu in April 2011, and this
PPA is the source for such official version. Make sure you test this
appropriately if you intend to use this in a production environment
under Ubuntu 10.04 LTS or 10.10. "

> Actually, I found that the OOo web site updated quicker and more often
> than Ubuntu's repository for their version of OOo.  I do not think they
> will be any faster with LibreOffice updates.

Of course - LibO has a different release shedule than LibO. Only stable
Ubuntu releases will have any LibO version. The PPA is considered a
development version. When LibO is officially released in Ubuntu (April
this year), there may be a "LibO-stable" PPA and a "LibO-dev" PPA or
else - Mozilla packages are managed in a similar way.

> Yes, it will be much easier to keep up-to-date when LibreOffice is in
> its repository and then find that there is an update shown in the daily,
> weekly, etc., update schedule that you set in your update manager. 

Right now there is not an important delay that I can see between the
LibO releases and the PPA. Canonical has assigned staff to it and bugs
are being worked on, assigned, etc. The situation is improving. So in
practical terms, there is no significant "lag" between the PPA and .deb
packages.

 But
> there will be a time lag between LibreOffice's updates on their web site
> and Ubuntu's repository.  So, the "no not install manually" statement
> may be taken the wrong way be some users as if there is something wrong
> with LibreOffice's own downloads.
> 

It's one of those golden rules in most GNU/Linux distributions. In
Ubuntu it's even more present: USE A PACKAGE MANAGER ANY AND EVERY TIME
YOU CAN. .debs are the last choice.

Even the fact someone would use the PPA is considered by far a more
advanced technical level than just going to the Ubuntu Software Center.

The advantages of having the latest version of LibO right to the minute
compared to the problems and maintenance .debs may generate really
justify using the PPA (for 10.10 and 10.04LTS).

Cheers,

Fabián

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Frustrated Base Users / Errors in Base 3.3 (OO 3.2 work beautifully)

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Hi Tony,

Thanks for sharing your findings and experience (including your work!).
You're doing an important part of the job to fix such issues: reporting
them and bringing attention to them.

I posted separately about the Ubuntu Bug day coming up, it's a great
opportunity to learn more about the process and get involved. Reporting
bugs upstream is also an important part of that work. Then when
developers get to it, the goal is to have a clear idea of what needs to
be done.

An important next step (after acknowledging such important problems
exist in Base) is to make a list and one by one try to reproduce and
confirm such issues in a consistent manner, then file individual bug
reports for those ASAP. See this post for details on how to join the effort:
http://www.ubuntu-user.com/Online/Blogs/Amber-Graner-You-in-Ubuntu/You-re-Invited-This-Week-s-Ubuntu-Bug-Day-LibreOffice-and-OpenOffice

If we wait for "someone to be available" to work on such issues, when
that day comes such people may just have nothing to do if the list is
empty ;)

Cheers,

Fabián

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On 11-02-08 07:13 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> Firstly, I'd like to say that I don't completely agree with Andreas
> Säger's, post
> 
> http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/msg02064.html
> 
> Firstly, I have been using OpenOffice from pre version 1 days, and I
> have to say, when Base reached the 3.2 release it was very good, in fact
> 3.1 & 3.2 versions of Base are very good, and if you want to see what
> can be achieved with Base, have a look here
> 
> http://ostdb.no-ip.org/
> 
> It's a project I have been working on for a while, using MySQL as a
> back-end. Feel free to download and take the database for a spin, but
> don't do it in LO 3.3, because Base is severely broken in 3.3, I really
> wish it wasn't, but alas it is.
> 
> To read through what I've worked through to test the various
> combinations of LO and operating system / hardware combinations, read my
> feedback to ubuntu bug 709778
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/709778
> 
> What makes the issues with Base 3.3 worse is that there is no
> consistency in the bugs, as you will see by reading my posts to the
> above bug report. NONE of these issues occurred in OO 3.2. This
> unfortunately reflects really badly on the Open Source community
> altogether, surely cannot the coding for Base be regressed to how it was
> in 3.2, until the changes that were attempted in 3.3 can be more
> thoroughly tested.
> 
> Please, I may not have the skills to be able to contribute to the source
> of these projects, but I do my utmost to promote what was OO, and was
> going to do so with LO, but I'm afraid introducing users to OO/LO3.3 may
> have a negative impact. To top this all off, I was so looking forward to
> LibreOffice, but until these hither too not present errors in Base,
> particulary, are resolved, then I cannot recommend moving to LO.
> 
> I really hope somebody is able to fix this, and soon.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Tony
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Fwd: Announcing the Next Ubuntu Bug Day (LibreOffice & OOo) ! - 2011.02.10

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In two days (this Thursday) will be the Ubuntu Bug Day dedicated to
LibreOffice and OOo. Please pass this information to other LibreOffice
lists as deemed appropriate.

It would be a good time for any Ubuntu users to file any bugs they find
in LibreOffice while using the PPA, see:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

A lot of Ubuntu users & devs will have their eyes on LibreOffice on
Thursday, don't miss this global event!

Cheers,

Fabián

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-  Original Message 
Subject: Announcing the Next Ubuntu Bug Day! - 2011.02.10
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 04:08:31 +0200
From: Roth Robert 
Reply-To: ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com
To: ubuntu-bugsq...@lists.ubuntu.com,
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Fellow Ubuntu Triagers!

This week's Bug Day targets are *drum roll please* LibreOffice and
OpenOffice!
 * #100 New bugs need a hug
 * #43 Incomplete bugs need a status check
 * #88 Confirmed bugs need a review

OpenOffice and LibreOffice are free office suites. OpenOffice has been
the default office suite for a long time ago, and has more than 1000
open bugs, some of them old, others new, and all of these need
triaging. In the meantime, Ubuntu is transitioning to LibreOffice, and
bugs that exist in LibreOffice too should be marked as such, to help
the developers find the bugs they can focus on.

Bookmark it, add it to your calendars, turn over those egg-timers!
 * 2011.02.10
 * http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20110210

Are you looking for a way to start giving some love back to your
adorable Ubuntu Project?
Did you ever wonder what Triage is? Want to learn about that?
This is a perfect time!, Everybody can help in a Bug Day!
open your IRC Client and go to #ubuntu-bugs (FreeNode)
the BugSquad will be happy to help you to start contributing!

Wanna be famous? Is easy! remember to use 5-A-day so if you do a good
work your name could be listed at the top 5-A-Day Contributors in the
Ubuntu Hall of Fame page!

We are always looking for new tasks or ideas for the Bug Days, if you
have one
add it to the Planning page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/Planning

If you're new to all this, head to
 http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs

Have a nice day,
   Robert Roth
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Adjustment LibreOffice Math

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On 11-02-05 08:51 AM, Rodolfo Souza wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> My name is Rodolfo Souza, I am a student of agronomy in Pernambuco - Brazil.
> 
> Well, besides user I am "in love"with free software. I use Ubuntu 10.10 and
> removed the OpenOffice 3.2 LibreOffice to install 3.3, but I'm having A few
> more small problems regarding LibreOffice MATH.
[...]

Hi Rodolfo,

Thanks for sharing your experience.

I would suggest you file a bug report for this, please follow these
guidelines:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport#Reporting_Ubuntu_bugs

You will be able to attach your file(s) there, which did not make it to
the list. Make sure they have no personal / private information and
include as much detail as possible, including how you install LibO in
Ubuntu (using the PPA is preferred).

If other users near you have similar problems you can ask in your
language using these resources:

http://pt-br.libreofficeforum.org/
http://libreoffice.shapado.com/

Cheers,

Fabián

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Re: [libreoffice-users] And yet another .pps that Impress doesn't do right

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On 11-01-21 10:07 AM, Charles Marcus wrote:
> On 2011-01-20 10:11 PM, MR ZenWiz wrote:
>> This darling .pps file causes LO rc3 not only to crash, but on every
>> attempt to recover, it crashes again, which pretty much crippled my LO
>> installation completely.  I'm downloading rc4, but this is a serious
>> problem since every attempt to restart LO results in the recovery,
>> followed immediately by reopening the "crashed" files, which then
>> causes LO to crash again.
>>
>> This .pps runs fine in OOo 3.2.1.
>>
>> I've posted this one here: http://zentektales.com/only_there.pps
> 
> When will the website provide a simple web form for submitting MS Office
> documents with conversion formatting problems?
> 
> Formatting problems with Microsoft Office file formats - especially
> Powerpoint/Impress documents - imnsho, is the single biggest 'problem'
> that OOo/LibO has, and there has *never* been a satisfactorily simple
> way to submit problem documents.
> 

Hi Charles,

I  believe the appropriate way to submit, track and try solving these
problems would be via a bug report. I can document this specifically for
this kind of problem, let me know what you think. A little hand-holding
goes a long way and pointing directly to this kind of "5 steps to submit
your problematic PPS file" would work towards that.

Let me know.

Fabián

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