Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed
After hearing so many horrible scenarios related to this bug, I guess it's very easy to slip into paranoia mode. ;-) The heartbleed bug literally only ever affects web servers that communicate over a secure channel (and use libssl as the backend, obviously). The same library is used for client side as well, which is why LO is linked with it. Better safe than sorry of course, and linking with a fixed version certainly cannot do harm, but there really is no way to exploit this bug through LO (unless of course LO can be made to run as a https web server :-) ). As far as I know, uses of SSL/TLS other than on webservers don't use heartbeat as it is only relevant for remote network connections. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 04/17/2014 04:13 PM, Cley Faye wrote: 2014-04-17 21:52 GMT+02:00 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org: This is an OpenSSL bug, what does this have to do with Libreoffice? As far as I can tell, it's because LibreOffice was linked with a vulnerable version of openssl. It's never bad to be on the side of precautions by using the latest versions (especially if it provides bugfixes), but I'm not sure how an exploit on the server side of a TLS connection could cause issue in a client software. Better safe than sorry I suppose. Even some of MS's web based look-up for running some of their packages were affected by this bug and the certificate changes associated with the fix. At least IE is giving me those types of errors with a few support phone calls I have had in the last week or so. Any package that need to access anything that used the older version of OpenSSL for any part of its inner workings can be at issue and vulnerable. How much it is is a guessing game, according to everything I have read, since each tell me a wide range of answers. So, fixing the web sites is just the start. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: MSO for iPad, big deal or big yawn
Apparently it is. Has been for a few days now. :) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.officehub Haven't tried it myself (and I don't plan to). Running Android 2.3 whereas it requires 4.0+. On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:21 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi :) Hmm, even if MSO have got there first and LibreOffice follows i think that's not hugely different from the desktop. I'm not convinced that MSO is available for Android. I've seen announcements that it is available for iPads but iPads are different from Androids. Regards from Tom :) On 1 April 2014 17:59, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Stuart V Stuart Foote wrote It's a shame none of the Open Source office's has the manpower to build an Android version. Now it's too late ;) Seriously, Pedro? Actually, TDF and the LibreOffice Devs, notably Tor Lillqvist, have been hard after an Android build. Not sure of its fitness for use, but daily builds of Master for Android are here: TinderBox 24 -- Android-ARM http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/Android-ARM@24-Bytemark-Hosting/ Seriously. I'm well aware of that. That is why I mentioned manpower. I didn't say no one. The Android build simply doesn't do anything (at least the last time I tried about a month ago...) Unless there were some fantastic progresses I doubt that it's up to par with Kingsoft (haven't tried MSO yet) Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/MSO-for-iPad-big-deal-or-big-yawn-tp4103714p4103729.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird situation with LO Writer
Hello, True, I don't insert the images as pictures like you would expect, but I didn't think that would make a difference since all the images are still coming from a local disk, so therefore LO knows the format very well and should be able to preserve it. Why am I using frames with images as backgrounds instead of pictures? I don't know really. I needed an image to accompany a chunk of text, this seemed like a good idea at the time. It's kinda too late to change it now, there are already over a hundred such frames... I might try to change it at some later point but for now I'd like to stick with what I have. I did not try inserting images any other way so I don't know how it would behave. (I also don't understand what do you mean by extending the palette.) I did however do a little experiment. Since ODTs are just ZIP archives, I opened my document with an archiver tool and extracted the contents to a temporary directory. Then I converted all the PNGs to JPGs with the same name, updated the relevant index files accordingly (content.xml, META-INF/manifest.xml), and archived it back as ZIP. Then I renamed the ZIP to ODT and tried opening it in Writer, and voila, it worked! All the images are still there and visible, I didn't see any problems. I then saved it under a different name and checked the resulting ODT, all the stored images were still in JPEG format. So I guess this kinda solves my problem for now, although I would still like to know how and why it happened to begin with. I need to do more editing on the document which means a lot more saving, so I'll keep an eye on what LO does with these JPEGs in the future. On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote: Hi Ra, Ra schrieb: I never insert images as pictures. The JPEG images are only ever used as backgrounds for frames. I also never open the JPEGs in any picture editing application and copypaste from there, the images are only ever used as files from disk. What I'm doing is precisely this: File Insert Frame... OK Then [right click on the frame created] Frame... Background As: Graphic Browse... [select the JPEG file from disk] Type: Area OK I think, that is the point. You do not insert the image directly, but use it as background image. If you insert the image directly, it should stay in JPEG format. Have you tried, whether other ways to make it a background (e.g. extending the palette) results in png too? Why do you try to make it a background of the frame? Kind regards Regina -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird situation with LO Writer
Good guess but sadly no. All the images are first stored as JPEGs. That's how I know they in fact *are* JPEGs. ;-) Ra wrote: Hello, I have noticed some unexpected (and possibly inconsistent) behavior of documents producet with LO Writer. Here's my scenario: I have several frames in the document and each of them has a JPEG photo as the background. Each frame has a different image as a background. There are no other graphics in the document, just some text. The resulting document ends up being considerably larger than the sum of all the images and all the text content put together. Knowing that ODFs are really just ZIP archives, I decided to dig a little deeper. Having opened an ODF file with an archiver I noticed most (but not all, surprisingly!) of my JPEGs got converted to PNGs before getting stored. I don't know much about this but up until now I believed LO stores all external images as direct file copies, or at the very least in the original format, so this striked me as odd. Just a guess, but if you copy and paste an image from another file, LO won't know what format it was in originally (all it has is bitmap data pasted from the clipboard), so will probably use PNG since it is a lossless format. Maybe those in JPEG format were inserted by Insert Picture From file (or similar), while those in PNG format were opened in another application, copied from there, and then pasted into LO? I've been told the ODF specification recommends using PNGs for bitmaps and SVG for vector graphics. This makes sense generally but is also quite inefficient for photos as PNG photos tend to be much larger than JPEGs. It is also weird that only some of my images got converted. Anybody know and can explain the logic behind this? My document currently contains about 100 such images, the JPEGs are all together about ~15MB in size, the rest of the document is mostly plain text with some formatting, and yet my document ends up at about ~47MB. I would like to optimize and reduce this if possible. In case it matters, the document was produced over several weeks in LO 4.x or newer on Windows (XP/x86 and 7/x64) and Linux (x86). Thank you. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird situation with LO Writer
I never insert images as pictures. The JPEG images are only ever used as backgrounds for frames. I also never open the JPEGs in any picture editing application and copypaste from there, the images are only ever used as files from disk. What I'm doing is precisely this: File Insert Frame... OK Then [right click on the frame created] Frame... Background As: Graphic Browse... [select the JPEG file from disk] Type: Area OK And then repeat, many times, always selecting a different JPEG for the background. On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Mark Bourne libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Sure, but how did you then get those images into LibreOffice? If you use Insert Picture From file, LO knows that the file is a JPEG and probably even copies the file as-is into the ODF file. If you open the JPEG file in another application (such as an image editor), then copy from there and paste into LO, in this case LO will only have the bitmap data copied from the image editor. It will not know about the original image file nor what type it was, and probably uses its default format, i.e. PNG, to save that image data within the ODF file. My suspicion is that, although you saved all the source images as JPEGs, those which appear as JPEG in the ODF file were inserted by Insert Picture From file, while those which appear as PNG in the ODF file were opened in another application and copied and pasted into LO Writer. Mark. Ra wrote: Good guess but sadly no. All the images are first stored as JPEGs. That's how I know they in fact *are* JPEGs. ;-) Ra wrote: Hello, I have noticed some unexpected (and possibly inconsistent) behavior of documents producet with LO Writer. Here's my scenario: I have several frames in the document and each of them has a JPEG photo as the background. Each frame has a different image as a background. There are no other graphics in the document, just some text. The resulting document ends up being considerably larger than the sum of all the images and all the text content put together. Knowing that ODFs are really just ZIP archives, I decided to dig a little deeper. Having opened an ODF file with an archiver I noticed most (but not all, surprisingly!) of my JPEGs got converted to PNGs before getting stored. I don't know much about this but up until now I believed LO stores all external images as direct file copies, or at the very least in the original format, so this striked me as odd. Just a guess, but if you copy and paste an image from another file, LO won't know what format it was in originally (all it has is bitmap data pasted from the clipboard), so will probably use PNG since it is a lossless format. Maybe those in JPEG format were inserted by Insert Picture From file (or similar), while those in PNG format were opened in another application, copied from there, and then pasted into LO? I've been told the ODF specification recommends using PNGs for bitmaps and SVG for vector graphics. This makes sense generally but is also quite inefficient for photos as PNG photos tend to be much larger than JPEGs. It is also weird that only some of my images got converted. Anybody know and can explain the logic behind this? My document currently contains about 100 such images, the JPEGs are all together about ~15MB in size, the rest of the document is mostly plain text with some formatting, and yet my document ends up at about ~47MB. I would like to optimize and reduce this if possible. In case it matters, the document was produced over several weeks in LO 4.x or newer on Windows (XP/x86 and 7/x64) and Linux (x86). Thank you. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird situation with LO Writer
Yeah, it's not that either. I can't make sense of this either. Just as an example, one of the original JPEGs is 568x426 and 75kB in size, as a PNG it has the same dimensions but is 374kB in size. On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Mark Bourne libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: OK. In that case it doesn't look like what I thought. The only other thing I can think is that perhaps some of those JPEGs do come out smaller when saved as PNG and LO is doing that to reduce the file size. But that seems unlikely for photos, as you originally said. Maybe someone else here has some ideas... Mark. Ra wrote: I never insert images as pictures. The JPEG images are only ever used as backgrounds for frames. I also never open the JPEGs in any picture editing application and copypaste from there, the images are only ever used as files from disk. What I'm doing is precisely this: File Insert Frame... OK Then [right click on the frame created] Frame... Background As: Graphic Browse... [select the JPEG file from disk] Type: Area OK And then repeat, many times, always selecting a different JPEG for the background. On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Mark Bourne libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Sure, but how did you then get those images into LibreOffice? If you use Insert Picture From file, LO knows that the file is a JPEG and probably even copies the file as-is into the ODF file. If you open the JPEG file in another application (such as an image editor), then copy from there and paste into LO, in this case LO will only have the bitmap data copied from the image editor. It will not know about the original image file nor what type it was, and probably uses its default format, i.e. PNG, to save that image data within the ODF file. My suspicion is that, although you saved all the source images as JPEGs, those which appear as JPEG in the ODF file were inserted by Insert Picture From file, while those which appear as PNG in the ODF file were opened in another application and copied and pasted into LO Writer. Mark. Ra wrote: Good guess but sadly no. All the images are first stored as JPEGs. That's how I know they in fact *are* JPEGs. ;-) Ra wrote: Hello, I have noticed some unexpected (and possibly inconsistent) behavior of documents producet with LO Writer. Here's my scenario: I have several frames in the document and each of them has a JPEG photo as the background. Each frame has a different image as a background. There are no other graphics in the document, just some text. The resulting document ends up being considerably larger than the sum of all the images and all the text content put together. Knowing that ODFs are really just ZIP archives, I decided to dig a little deeper. Having opened an ODF file with an archiver I noticed most (but not all, surprisingly!) of my JPEGs got converted to PNGs before getting stored. I don't know much about this but up until now I believed LO stores all external images as direct file copies, or at the very least in the original format, so this striked me as odd. Just a guess, but if you copy and paste an image from another file, LO won't know what format it was in originally (all it has is bitmap data pasted from the clipboard), so will probably use PNG since it is a lossless format. Maybe those in JPEG format were inserted by Insert Picture From file (or similar), while those in PNG format were opened in another application, copied from there, and then pasted into LO? I've been told the ODF specification recommends using PNGs for bitmaps and SVG for vector graphics. This makes sense generally but is also quite inefficient for photos as PNG photos tend to be much larger than JPEGs. It is also weird that only some of my images got converted. Anybody know and can explain the logic behind this? My document currently contains about 100 such images, the JPEGs are all together about ~15MB in size, the rest of the document is mostly plain text with some formatting, and yet my document ends up at about ~47MB. I would like to optimize and reduce this if possible. In case it matters, the document was produced over several weeks in LO 4.x or newer on Windows (XP/x86 and 7/x64) and Linux (x86). Thank you. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to- unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http
[libreoffice-users] Weird situation with LO Writer
Hello, I have noticed some unexpected (and possibly inconsistent) behavior of documents producet with LO Writer. Here's my scenario: I have several frames in the document and each of them has a JPEG photo as the background. Each frame has a different image as a background. There are no other graphics in the document, just some text. The resulting document ends up being considerably larger than the sum of all the images and all the text content put together. Knowing that ODFs are really just ZIP archives, I decided to dig a little deeper. Having opened an ODF file with an archiver I noticed most (but not all, surprisingly!) of my JPEGs got converted to PNGs before getting stored. I don't know much about this but up until now I believed LO stores all external images as direct file copies, or at the very least in the original format, so this striked me as odd. I've been told the ODF specification recommends using PNGs for bitmaps and SVG for vector graphics. This makes sense generally but is also quite inefficient for photos as PNG photos tend to be much larger than JPEGs. It is also weird that only some of my images got converted. Anybody know and can explain the logic behind this? My document currently contains about 100 such images, the JPEGs are all together about ~15MB in size, the rest of the document is mostly plain text with some formatting, and yet my document ends up at about ~47MB. I would like to optimize and reduce this if possible. In case it matters, the document was produced over several weeks in LO 4.x or newer on Windows (XP/x86 and 7/x64) and Linux (x86). Thank you. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] How to intsall without CUPS?
Hi! Is it possible to build/install Libreoffice on a Linux system without CUPS?. I would like to use the office suit but don't like to have that awesome CUPS stuff on my machine. Formerly OpenOffice did not require CUPS. Why is it now required as a hard dependency? Why can't print jobs just be written to a file and or send to a configurable helper program/script? Not everybody likes to blow up his system installation with many unused modules/programs. I'm not subscribed to the list, so please add me to CC. -- Harald -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
