Re: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird - too many Address Books

[Scott Castaline]

I've always used as my first entry in each address book @@@. That seems 
to still work as far as I can tell. My understanding is that the bots 
can't seem to deal with that entry or it'll ignore the rest once it 
encounters it.



On 03/18/2014 01:31 PM, anne-ology wrote:

What I've done - in order to avoid allowing these roving-robots
access to my e-address list -
is to keep them in a notepad document ... separating by
categories
   then when I wish to send an e-mail pertinent to some group, I
merely select that section, copy, then paste into the e-mail  ;-)

I realize this does not answer your specific question,
but thought some might be interested in a fairly simple method
to use them yet keep them hidden from the dangers lurking 'round 'bout  ;-)



From: Custfold 
Date: Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 8:00 AM
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Thunderbird - too many Address Books
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


I'm getting a bit annoyed at having my address book split between Personal
Address Book and Collected Addresses, with an attempt at getting a Master
Combined address book not too successful

Can someone tell me the sequence/commands to combine the disparate
collections under a single umbrella?

At some stage I'll also need to bring over an Evolution address list - big
file.

Thanks
Dave H




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libreoffice 4 corrupting Calc files

[Scott Castaline]

I'm sort of having a similar problem. I too have a spreadsheet file for 
personal finances tracking. When I made the change from Fedora 19 to 
Fedora 20 I suddenly started getting the file recovery dialog reporting 
that my budget calc file needed to be recovered when I would open a 2nd 
unrelated Libreoffice file. It does not matter whether I am opening an 
existing or new calc, write, draw or base file. The dialog would pop up 
pointing to the one file, even though I already had it open and had been 
using it. Of course if I elect to recover it'll fail since it is already 
open and the recovery encountered the file lock. I did one time open 
another file first and then attempted to open the file that gets 
flagged. This time I was able to allow the recovery process to run and 
it opened. I have gone a few days with no further problems until just 
now, the dialog suddenly popped up upon opening another file.


I have already tried removing the .config directory tree for LibreOffice 
with only a few days reprieve from this problem. I am currently running 
4.2.1.1 from the Fedora 20 repo. Just my .02¢, it seems to be a similar 
problem to the OP.


Scott C.

On 03/02/2014 12:54 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2014-03-02 7:00 GMT+01:00 "J. Van Brimmer" :


Hello,

I'm new to the list, so if this is an inappropriate subject, please let me
know.

I am using Libreoffice on Manjaro Linux. Over the last several months the
version has been regularly updated. The currently installed version is:
"Version: 4.1.5.3
Build ID: 4.1.5.3 Arch Linux build-1". I have been using Manjaro for about
six months. Over this time I have been using Libreoffice to update some
Calc spreadsheets that I created to keep track of my finances. There is
only one of those files that occasionally gets corrupted. It's always the
same file, and only this one file that gets corrupted. I keep the files on
a USB drive. I always save the file, close Libreoffice, and unmount the
drive before removing it from the computer. I have no forewarning that the
file is corrupt until the next time I open it. When I open the file when
its corrupted, I get this window:
Screenshot<
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aak5y545qsmhe30/Screenshot_TextImport_2014-03-01.png
​.  Nothing I try can get Libreoffice to open or repair the file. ​
​But​
​, if ​
​I open the file with Libreoffice 3 on my Debian system, I am offered a
window that asks me if I want Libreoffice to repair the file. If I click on
'Yes' Libreoffice 3 completes the repair and I see the spreadsheet. The
only strange thing that I notice about the repaired file is that the last
chart I had created is only a placeholder. I then delete the placeholder
and recreate the chart. If I then save an​
​​d close the file, and reopen it in Libreoffice 4, it opens fine until the
next time it gets corrupted. I don't know how to cause the problem, other
that to keep opening the file until it happens.

Has anyone seen this problem? Is there anything I should try?



I have seen a problem that seems to be similar, but that was an earlier
version of LibreOffice, I think 3.7.something. It corrupted a spreadsheet
for me and I couldn't repair it with LibreOffice, so I installed Apache
OpenOffice and opened it. Apache OpenOffice repaired the file for me and I
have been using it ever since, and since then the spreadsheet never got
corrupted again.

That's probably not the solution you are looking for, I just wanted to say
that you are probably not the only one who had this problem, but I'm not
100% sure it's the same bug.



Johnny Rosenberg





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Re: [libreoffice-users] User Profile Question

[Scott Castaline]

I run on Linux so I'm not sure if you have it on Win7. There's a file 
called registrymodifications.xcu under libreoffice/4/user.
It's in some Markup format somewhat similar to html or xml. It can be 
kind of cryptic but I have edited that file directly with some success. 
I don't know if that contains everything within user options or not, but 
I have saved it in the past before trying something that would cause the 
app to barf and then restored that file and everything was fine again.


Scott C.

On 03/01/2014 04:40 PM, Carol-Virgil Arrington wrote:

I’ve got a question about the User Profile. I’m using LO 4.1.5 on Windows 7.

I understand that my user profile consists of a bunch of folders and files in 
my AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\4\User folder. But, beyond that, I can’t make 
sense of any of it (other than my Templates).

For example, I’ve made several customizations to my copy of LO, such as:

1. Screen colors
2. Keyboard assignments. I have many of my favorite paragraph styles assigned 
to Ctrl-key combinations, etc.

Where are these types of information kept? With other programs, I could find it in a 
file called <*something*.ini>, but in LO’s user profile, I can’t find anything 
that resembles any type of configuration file, and I’ve stepped my way through each 
and every file in each and every folder in the User file tree.

My computer recently crashed resulting in a corrupt User Profile. I was able to 
rename it and start over, but it would have been nice to be able to pinpoint 
the one or two corrupt files and correct them without necessarily starting from 
scratch. Also, I use LO on many different computers, and I’d like to just copy 
the pertinent configuration files from one computer to another without 
necessarily copying the entire user profile.

Virgil





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base; Setting up relations between tables

[Scott Castaline]

On 11/27/2013 11:08 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Le 27/11/13 15:24, Scott Castaline a écrit :

Hi Scott,


What am I not doing? I'm thinking of changing one other field this way
and was doing this one to figure out doing it.

 From your description, it sounds like you have not set the correct bound
field in the properties of your Combobox on your main form.

Enter Design mode for your main form, and then select the control you
want to edit, or if you have both a control and associated label, enter
the group first (right mouse button click on the control in question >
Edit/Enter group). From here, you need to make sure that your box is
bound to the right data source in the Data tab, and the correct field,
or alternatively, make the population of that field dependent on a SQL
statement that basically just says "SELECT * FROM
fieldusedtopopulateform". Save the form, leave edit mode and see if it
now works.


Alex






Alex,

I went back into the design mode and found that I hadn't completely 
setup the data page in the field control settings. Once I did that when 
I clicked on the arrow a drop down box appeared with 5 lines from the 
corresponding table. I assumed it was working fine, so I proceeded to do 
the same with 2 other fields. I created the tables for them, initially 
populated them with data, setup the relations with the main table. Again 
all seemed to be working fine. I was able to either click the arrow for 
the drop down to list the different values or start typing in the value 
and it would attempt to complete based on what was in the corresponding 
table and what I had typed so far.


This afternoon I went back into the db and the main table's form when I 
noticed that the fields involved were displaying what I had entered for 
the last record created/edited. If I changed it to correct it I found 
that for all records that field remained the same. Since so far I've 
only been entering info from CDs and have not started with any vinyl yet 
so that field would be the same as well as the genre since I've also 
been entering in from a collection of the same genre, but the field in 
question is the one that tracks where I purchased the media from. That 
field is the one that is supposed to change for at least 2 of the 20 CDs 
I've entered so far. That was how I noticed that something was wrong. 
I've also noticed that when I go into Edit mode of the form some fields 
will display data as though I'm in data entry mode and not design mode. 
I don't know if this is related or something else happening.


I've tried several different combinations of settings for these fields 
whit no resolve of problem. On the data page of the field control I 
have; for Data Fields I have it pointing to the field that has the data 
I'm using to fill in the main table. for the next 2 settings I have left 
on default "yes", the type of list contents = Table and List content = 
name of table that I'm linked to. It seems to me that somehow the 
relations aren't working the way I want them to. It's applying the same 
record(s) from the linked table(s) to all records in the main table.


I have the same type of field settings for the primary keys as I do for 
the main table calling it the table name_ID set as an integer with 
AutoValue set. I then added on reference of these fields as foreign keys 
in the main table. The relations were set using the GUI by clicking on 
the the corresponding fields with the 1 end to the list tables and the N 
end to the foreign key field in the main table. Maybe it should be the 
other way or many to many, but I don't see how to do that. It seems that 
the GUI automatically sets the relation as 1 to N and the directions as 
well.


Again thanks.

Scott C.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base; Setting up relations between tables

[Scott Castaline]

On 11/17/2013 04:53 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Le 17/11/13 06:32, Scott Castaline a écrit :

Hi Scott,


So how would I do that in the graphical tool? I can't seem to get it to
work. I vaguely remember working with foreign keys and the sql statement
would refer to AlbumID from the parent as Album.AlbumID for both tables.
Wouldn't I also need the ID from the Album table as well? Maybe I'm just
better of using SQL Statements, but I don't see where I can do that. The
GUI does not seem to be able to do what I am trying to do or I have
forgotten more than I thought.



If you want to use SQL DDL through LO's UI, Options > SQL (or Tools> SQL
on the Mac) from the main menu is your friend, although the feedback is
minimal (i.e. you get a message that the statement has executed
correctly or not).

Other than that, if you are trying to set it up so that your
Album.AlbumID is referenced in the Track.AlbumID, then the way it should
work in the GUI is via Tools > Relations in the LO Base file main
window, adding the tables you want to join, setting the relation as
1-to-n by dragging the field AlbumID field from your Album table to your
corresponding Track.AlbumID field in the Album table and then setting
the UPDATE/CASCADE/DELTE options as appropriate.

If this doesn't work after saving the database, then that would probably
be a bug.


Alex



Thanks for the info Jay & Alex. I later went and recreated the db 
inputting SQL myself and it worked. I then repeated it using the GUI and 
found my error. I would create the relation by click and drag between 
tables. Then for some reason I was clicking on the toolbar icon for 
creating a new relation instead of right clicking on the line to edit 
the one already created. So I was actually creating duplicate relations. 
It's working now. I found that I do recall quite a bit of SQL as I also 
duplicated the full db in SQLite using just SQL, just lack the 
programming skills to create the UI, and entering the info by SQL 
statements for each record is a real PITA.


I do have one more question though. I decided to add another table that 
would allow me to select existing data from this table to fill in a 
field in the main table. I created the new table with 2 fields. First 
field is an integer that is auto entered (essentially record count) and 
the second field is a text field. I then added a field in the main table 
that provides the link to this new table. In the form I changed the 
field type from Text Box to Combo Box (originally used List Box, but it 
didn't work). When I change to entry mode and enter a new record, when I 
get to this field and I click on the Drop Arrow a blank box is 
displayed. I am able to manually enter the correct data myself. I do 
have the new table populated with data.
What am I not doing? I'm thinking of changing one other field this way 
and was doing this one to figure out doing it.


Scott C.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base; Setting up relations between tables

[Scott Castaline]

On 11/17/2013 04:53 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Le 17/11/13 06:32, Scott Castaline a écrit :

Hi Scott,


So how would I do that in the graphical tool? I can't seem to get it to
work. I vaguely remember working with foreign keys and the sql statement
would refer to AlbumID from the parent as Album.AlbumID for both tables.
Wouldn't I also need the ID from the Album table as well? Maybe I'm just
better of using SQL Statements, but I don't see where I can do that. The
GUI does not seem to be able to do what I am trying to do or I have
forgotten more than I thought.



If you want to use SQL DDL through LO's UI, Options > SQL (or Tools> SQL
on the Mac) from the main menu is your friend, although the feedback is
minimal (i.e. you get a message that the statement has executed
correctly or not).

Other than that, if you are trying to set it up so that your
Album.AlbumID is referenced in the Track.AlbumID, then the way it should
work in the GUI is via Tools > Relations in the LO Base file main
window, adding the tables you want to join, setting the relation as
1-to-n by dragging the field AlbumID field from your Album table to your
corresponding Track.AlbumID field in the Album table and then setting
the UPDATE/CASCADE/DELTE options as appropriate.

If this doesn't work after saving the database, then that would probably
be a bug.


Alex




Alex,

Within the GUI the steps you describe is exactly the way I had done it. 
When it didn't work, I was trying several different ways, unfortunately 
I didn't track what I had changed in all my attempts so I don't remember 
the alternatives that I tried. I may try using the SQL method as you 
described to see if maybe something between the GUI and SQL is not 
happening.

 Thanks for the feed back.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] RE: Base; Setting up relations between tables

[Scott Castaline]

On 11/16/2013 02:25 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On Sat, 2013-11-16 at 12:01 -0500, Scott Castaline wrote:

I haven't worked with SQL DBs since the late 80's so I'm not sure what
I'm doing wrong here. I have created a BASE DB using the internal HSQLDB
engine for my music collection containing different media (CDs, DVDs,
Vinyl LPs, 45s and Cassette, wife had thrown out all my 8-tracks back in
'98 as well as my Reel-to-Reel tapes :=( ). I created the main table for
Album Info using a field that is auto incremented (essentially record
id) integer type, the first field and set as the Primary Key. I then
went to create another table (Tracks child of Albums) with TrackID as
the first field and Primary key, AlbumID, AlbumTitle, TrackNumber, Track
Title, Artist, Time, & Note set as Memo. When I went to set the
relations I picked the child table 1st and then I added the parent table
using the AlbumID as the field to link. It won't do it. I had it working
a few days ago the first time I did this, but when I went to upgrade
from Fedora 20 Alpha to Fedora 20 Beta I didn't realize that my backup
of the original DBs didn't work so I had to start over. I thought that's
what I had done originally when it worked, but apparently not.

So what should I be using to set the relations between child and parent?

Scott C


Scott

Summarizing your two tables:

Album Table
AlbumID - int, primary key
Album
Artist
other Album only data

Track Table
TrackID - int, primary key
AlbumID - foreign key, references row in Album Table
TrackNumber
other Track only data

What you are doing with the graphical tool is set the foreign key
constraint for Track.AlbumID to be the values in Album.AlbumID. The idea
is to limit the valid values to Track.AlbumID to only those in
Album.AlbumID. This is not absolutely needed but can be very convenient
when entering data (152 is a valid AlbumID in Album but 512 is not).


When you query for all tracks for an arbitrary artist using vanilla SQL:

SELECT   (each column must be only occur in one table)
FROMAlbum as a, Track as t (use the correct table names)
WHERE   a.Artist = 'some artist'
 AND a.AlbumID = t.AlbumID

In the FROM clause I used aliasing (AS a, AS t) to provide a short
reference to each table.

The SELECT clause must use aliasing (or full referencing) when needed to
make a column unique.

In the WHERE clause aliasing was used to make the references
unambiguous. Also, AlbumID occurs in both tables so aliasing (or full
table referencing) must be used so the query looks for AlbumIDs that
match in each table. Artist probably only exists in Album so alaising or
referencing is optional.

The above query does not require the foreign key constraint be set in
the Track table.


Jay,

So how would I do that in the graphical tool? I can't seem to get it to 
work. I vaguely remember working with foreign keys and the sql statement 
would refer to AlbumID from the parent as Album.AlbumID for both tables. 
Wouldn't I also need the ID from the Album table as well? Maybe I'm just 
better of using SQL Statements, but I don't see where I can do that. The 
GUI does not seem to be able to do what I am trying to do or I have 
forgotten more than I thought.



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[libreoffice-users] RE: Base; Setting up relations between tables

[Scott Castaline]

I haven't worked with SQL DBs since the late 80's so I'm not sure what 
I'm doing wrong here. I have created a BASE DB using the internal HSQLDB 
engine for my music collection containing different media (CDs, DVDs, 
Vinyl LPs, 45s and Cassette, wife had thrown out all my 8-tracks back in 
'98 as well as my Reel-to-Reel tapes :=( ). I created the main table for 
Album Info using a field that is auto incremented (essentially record 
id) integer type, the first field and set as the Primary Key. I then 
went to create another table (Tracks child of Albums) with TrackID as 
the first field and Primary key, AlbumID, AlbumTitle, TrackNumber, Track 
Title, Artist, Time, & Note set as Memo. When I went to set the 
relations I picked the child table 1st and then I added the parent table 
using the AlbumID as the field to link. It won't do it. I had it working 
a few days ago the first time I did this, but when I went to upgrade 
from Fedora 20 Alpha to Fedora 20 Beta I didn't realize that my backup 
of the original DBs didn't work so I had to start over. I thought that's 
what I had done originally when it worked, but apparently not.


So what should I be using to set the relations between child and parent?

Scott C

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Re: [libreoffice-users] 2 questions related to Base Design Form

[Scott Castaline]

I wound up blowing off my original form and recreated it. The Automatic 
Control Focus function then behaved the way it should leaving the form 
navigation controls active. So I may have accidentlly changed something 
to cause my problem. For some reason Activation Order does not fix the 
starting position for me. The cursor still starts in the upper left 
corner of the form and not the first field. Once I click on the first 
field it works fine after that, so using both functions seems to make 
the form work the way it should.


Scott C.

On 11/09/2013 09:11 PM, Girvin Herr wrote:


On 11/06/2013 07:54 PM, Scott Castaline wrote:
In Libreoffice Base The Form Design window, I was trying to get it 
where the cursor starts in the first field. Right now it is in the 
top left corner at start up (data entry) like it is when I go into 
form edit mode. In exploring ways to do this I had clicked on an icon 
called "Automatic Control Focus" so now the form controls (record 
advance, 1st record, last record, & new record) are greyed out. The 
only way to advance is by tabbing from the last field or to go back a 
record shift & tab from the first field.


I am running Libreofice 4.1.3.2 on Fedora 20 Alpha. So I have two 
questions:


1. How do I disable this automatic control focus?

2. How do I get the cursor to start in the first field when I'm in 
Data Entry Mode?



Scott,
I am using LO 3.6.7.2 under Slackware Linux, not 4.x, but it looks 
like the "Automatic Control Focus" icon is alternate-action.  If you 
go back into form edit mode, click on the icon and see if it turns off 
(no border around it).


I do not use that feature.  I use the "Activation Order" feature to 
order the controls in my forms.  In my 3.x, this icon is two to the 
left of the "Automatic Control Focus" icon.  It contains a checkbox 
and a radio button (bulls-eye).  Clicking on this icon should get you 
a "Tab Order" window that allows you to edit the activation order of 
your form's controls by selecting the control from the list on the 
left and moving it up or down in the list with the buttons on the 
right.  I usually select the "Automatic Sort" first and then go back 
and refine the order with the up and down buttons.


In addition, if there are any controls you do not want to tab to, such 
as a read-only control, the tab can be disabled on a 
control-by-control basis by the "Tabstop" option under the "General" 
tab in the control's properties dialog.


Hope this helps.
Girvin Herr




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[libreoffice-users] 2 questions related to Base Design Form

[Scott Castaline]

In Libreoffice Base The Form Design window, I was trying to get it where 
the cursor starts in the first field. Right now it is in the top left 
corner at start up (data entry) like it is when I go into form edit 
mode. In exploring ways to do this I had clicked on an icon called 
"Automatic Control Focus" so now the form controls (record advance, 1st 
record, last record, & new record) are greyed out. The only way to 
advance is by tabbing from the last field or to go back a record shift & 
tab from the first field.


I am running Libreofice 4.1.3.2 on Fedora 20 Alpha. So I have two 
questions:


1. How do I disable this automatic control focus?

2. How do I get the cursor to start in the first field when I'm in Data 
Entry Mode?


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Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

[Scott Castaline]

With or without the e the link will get you to that site, however the 
blog post provides a link to an actual tutorial on webmonkey which 
results in a 404 error. The date of the post on lifehacker goes back to 
2008 so it's likely that the tutorial on webmonkey has been removed.


On 10/09/2013 04:09 PM, James Knott wrote:

Robert Holtzman wrote:

On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:52:09AM +0200, Anthony Easthope wrote:

But I like compiling from source complains the battle scared OS
pioneer!

[1]http://lifehacker.com/398611/how-to-compile-software-from-source-cod
e

The link leads to "not found", at least for me.

Did you notice that "e" that wound up on the next line?  You may have to
add it to the URL.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] FYI - Trend Micro is blocking your LO 4.1.1 download page

[Scott Castaline]

As of today Sept. 3, 2013 the below mentioned site reports that 
libreoffice's download site is Safe and The latest tests indicate that 
this URL contains no malicious software and shows no signs of phishing.


So it seems that someone got through and resolved the issue. Of course 
this assumes that your system does not come into play on this as I'm 
running Linux (Fedora 19) using FF 23.0.1 and not MS Windows.


On 09/01/2013 06:12 PM, Paul Hayward wrote:
Hello, it appears that 'Trend Micro Worry-Free Business Security 
Services' is blocking your LibreOffice 4.1.1 download page, and rating 
it as "Dangerous" (see attached graphic). This may be due to some 
'donate' code that seems to run, or perhaps some other reason. Your 
download site gets blocked in both Firefox (23) and Opera (12).


If you go to the Trend Micro site safety center  ( 
http://global.sitesafety.trendmicro.com/ ), and enter the url  " 
http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/stable/4.1.1/win/x86/LibreOffice_4.1.1_Win_x86.msi 
", it will return a "Dangerous" rating, with the following 
explanation:  "/The latest tests indicate that this URL contains 
malicious software or phishing./"


Just thought I'd pass this info along.

Regards,
Paul Hayward






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to change url for persona settings

[Scott Castaline]

Peter, looks good. That is essentially what I wound up doing in
experimenting with it. I have not tried creating my own personas as I'm
artistically dysfunctional, in otherwards I am not very creative
artistically. For now, when I want to change my persona I just first
change my firefox/thunderbid personas. I'll copy the URL and then I go
to LO 4.0 change it there and copy the  from the PersonaSettings
line in registrymodifications.xcu as well as the jpg files in the
.config/libreoffice/4/user/gallery/persona folder over to my system
running Fedora 19/LO 4.1. Hopefully this bug gets fixed fairly soon as I
really do like this feature as frivolous as it may be.:-)

On 07/24/2013 11:36 AM, Peter Maunder wrote:
> I have been trying to summarise the current Personas situation to clarify the
> situation in my mind. I am documenting it in case it may be of interest to
> any of you. Does it need to be reported as a bug? Is it just a Linux
> problem? 
> 
> My environment is UBUNTU 12.04 (x2) and LINUX-MINT MATE 13. I am running
> LibO 3.6.4.3, 4.0.4.2 and now 4.1.0.4. LibO 4.0 and 4.1 run from
> Applications/Office Panels and share the same .config files, LibO 3.6 uses 
> hand made panel. Only one version is run at a time. All three systems run
> home made personas on Firefox, Thunderbird and LibO 4.0 and 4.1
> 
> 1. LibO 4.0 supported the INSTALLATION and DISPLAY of Personas but no
> control over the TEXT or ACCENT colours.
> 
> 2 LibO 4.1 RC4 supports the DISPLAY of Personas, TEXT colours but not the
> INSTALLATION  of Personas nor ACCENT colours.
> 
> 3. Because the .config files for 4.0 and 4.1 were so different in size, I
> decided to recreate the files for 4.1 and then manually add the
> /Gallery/Personas folder and modify registrymodifications.xcu file to
> restore the settings from 4.0.
> 
> 4. I now run 4.0 and 4.1 from the same .config files and use the same
> personas.
> 
> 5. By using a standard name for the personas I wish to use, I no longer need
> to modify the registrymodifications.xcu file.
> 
> 6. I use GIMP to create a new Personas, FIREFOX PERSONAS PLUS to test the
> new Personas without the need to upload the personas to the firefox website.
> When happy I copy the new personas and rename it to the LibO Personas
> folder, restart LibO and I am away.
> 
> 7. I can find my way to manage my and my Wife's personas (she is the
> artist), but the ordinary user will struggle with the current situation.
> 
> Changes to the registrymodifications.xcu file
> 
> before 
> oor:name="PersonaSettings" oor:op="fuse">
> 
> after
> oor:op="fuse">Header.jpg;Footer.jpg;#ff;#ff
> 
> Where Header.jpg and Footer.jpg are Personas stored in  the
> .config/libreoffice/4/user/gallery/personas folder
> 
> Text Colour (Working) #rrggbb (ff = white, #00 = black)
> Accent colour #ff (Not yet implemented)
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to change url for persona settings

[Scott Castaline]

Tom, there's already 2 bug reports open on this as mentioned by Peter in
another post in this thread. Although I think one of them has or had
been closed as it was a duplicate bug report to the original one.


On 07/24/2013 03:59 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> I think time to post a bug report!
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
> 
> Just copy*paste the old settings over the top of the new ones might mean
> some settings are not quite suitable for the new branch.  It's not very
> likely imo especially for something like personas/themes that have been
> around for quite a while now but it might be a case where you need to
> reinstall the 4.1.x and let it adjust any settings it needs to. 
> Definitely keep an untweaked copy of your 4.0.x settings though in case
> you need to go back to the current stable branch! 
> Regards from
> Tom :) 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to change url for persona settings

[Scott Castaline]

Yes 4.1.?.? the persona feature is broke. You can only change it or edit
it by doing it manually by adding the jpg files to the
.config/libreoffice/4/user/gallery/persona sub-dirs. If the persona
sub-dir does not exist than just create it and dump the jpg there. Also
you will have to manually edit the registrymodifications.xcu file. This
just an xml file. Look for the 2 lines that have "Persona" and the
second one has "PersonaSettings" after oor:name=. You will want the 2nd
line, horizontal scroll to the type and type in the name of the
jpg file (ie 3.jpg;bas5.jpg;#d5f3fa;#00 is what is in mine for star
trek image.)

I got the mentioned values when I tried coping my libreoffic config
folders from 4.0.4.2 into my 4.1.?.? folders and found that it worked. I
found the difference based on the comments in the 2 bugs that Peter had
mentioned. Once I changed the new files I switched back. The xcu files
are very different in size so I'm not sure if keeping the older version
in place may disallow some new feature from working properly.

On 07/23/2013 08:49 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
> On 07/23/2013 04:40 PM, Scott Castaline wrote:
>> On 07/21/2013 04:30 AM, Peter Maunder wrote:
>>> Bad2theBone wrote
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>>>> Just recently started checking out Fedora 19 on another system.
>>>> This version comes with LibreOffice 4.1. I found that I was not
>>>> able to setup my Persona settings in this version. My main system
>>>> has 4.0.4.2 and just on a hunch I copied the libreoffice sub-dir
>>>> in .config to my test system after renaming it on that system. It
>>>> now works, although I haven't tried changing it now that I think
>>>> of it since doing that.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know enough about the config db or file to shed some light
>>>> on why this happened. Also is there any major difference between
>>>> config tool in 4.0 verses 4.1 that could create problems? Or is
>>>> it possible to be a Fedora thing and not generic LibreOffice
>>>> problem?
>>> Have a look at bugs 63498 and 59230 to see whether yours is a
>>> related problem. I have the same symptoms with 4.1 debian install
>>> and Ubuntu 12.04 and Mint-Mate Maya... Peter
>>>
> 
> I use Ubuntu 12.04 and MATE desktop and have seen no issues with using
> the Persona option.  I have no problem in changing it to whatever one I
> want, as long as I have the URL of the Firefox persona page.  I have
> made 26 persona "files" and posted them on FF's site and change my 4.0.4
> version on Ubuntu and Windows every so often.  No problems so far.
> 
> So are you telling us that 4.1.0.x has given up our ease of
> using/changing persona[s]?
> 
> The only thing that 4.0.x had issues with, in the past, was using the
> font/text color that was defined withing the persona.  In the past, if
> you had a dark background and light text defined, LO did not pick up the
> light text color and the text was shown in "default black" text.  There
> was a move to fix that issue.  Could that work caused the current
> issues?  I do not know.  Of course, I have to tried 4.1.0.x - since I
> rarely install a RC version of package.
> 
> 
>> Yes, that's exactly what I experienced. For now I have the .config
>> sub-dirs from my system running Fedora 18 and LO 4.0.4.2 copied onto
>> the system running Fedora 19 and LO 4.1.?.?. Since I saved my original
>> config on that system I may try restoring it and manually create the
>> persona sud-dir with the jpg files.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to change url for persona settings

[Scott Castaline]

So I took it a step further and manually added the persona sub-dir
under the gallery sub-dir along with the jpg files within the folder.
I then manually edited the registrymodifications.xcu file (xml file
type) and just copied text within  in "PersonaSettings"
line from the working file to the broken 4.1.?.? version of the file.
I'm not sure what other changes there are between the 2 so I just
edited the broken one. I am still not able to change from the dialog.
It still will not allow the editing of the url within the box.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Unable to change url for persona settings

[Scott Castaline]

On 07/21/2013 04:30 AM, Peter Maunder wrote:
> Bad2theBone wrote
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>> 
>> Just recently started checking out Fedora 19 on another system.
>> This version comes with LibreOffice 4.1. I found that I was not
>> able to setup my Persona settings in this version. My main system
>> has 4.0.4.2 and just on a hunch I copied the libreoffice sub-dir
>> in .config to my test system after renaming it on that system. It
>> now works, although I haven't tried changing it now that I think
>> of it since doing that.
>> 
>> Anyone know enough about the config db or file to shed some light
>> on why this happened. Also is there any major difference between
>> config tool in 4.0 verses 4.1 that could create problems? Or is
>> it possible to be a Fedora thing and not generic LibreOffice
>> problem?
> 
> Have a look at bugs 63498 and 59230 to see whether yours is a
> related problem. I have the same symptoms with 4.1 debian install
> and Ubuntu 12.04 and Mint-Mate Maya... Peter
> 
Yes, that's exactly what I experienced. For now I have the .config
sub-dirs from my system running Fedora 18 and LO 4.0.4.2 copied onto
the system running Fedora 19 and LO 4.1.?.?. Since I saved my original
config on that system I may try restoring it and manually create the
persona sud-dir with the jpg files.
> 
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[libreoffice-users] Unable to change url for persona settings

[Scott Castaline]

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Just recently started checking out Fedora 19 on another system. This
version comes with LibreOffice 4.1. I found that I was not able to
setup my Persona settings in this version. My main system has 4.0.4.2
and just on a hunch I copied the libreoffice sub-dir in .config to my
test system after renaming it on that system. It now works, although I
haven't tried changing it now that I think of it since doing that.

Anyone know enough about the config db or file to shed some light on
why this happened. Also is there any major difference between config
tool in 4.0 verses 4.1 that could create problems? Or is it possible
to be a Fedora thing and not generic LibreOffice problem?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes

[Scott Castaline]

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On Thunderbird (at least on Linux, can't speak for other platforms),
If the list requires it you have 2 different reply options. One that
replies to the originator of the particular message and the other has
a drop down that gives options of "Reply List", "Reply All", just
"Reply". I beleive that the "Reply All" will have the below mentioned
behavior of sending to the list plus to the originator. On mine I have
"Reply List" so it will not send a second copy to the originator. Also
on other lists I only one of the 2 buttons available, only this and a
couple of others are they both there. I believe that it's something
that gets embedded into the email header by the email server running
the particular list(s).


On 07/02/2013 01:32 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :) That is weird.
> 
> It might still be a User Profile issue on all the machines.  Most
> likely is  a particular Extension/Add-on that you have on all
> machines.  Do you have anything like that?  If you rename the User
> Profile on just 1 machine as a test rather than doing it on all
> machines. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile
> 
> wrt to replying to the list you are not the only one.  I didn't
> even realise your reply didn't go to the list and was wondering why
> no-one else responded to my post.  We have to use "Reply to all" or
> "Group reply" rather than just the normal "Reply to".  It is
> annoying a few of us but there doesn't seem to be anything any of
> us can do about it.
> 
> Apols and regards from Tom :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>  From: Thomas Blasejewicz
>>  To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent:
>> Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 16:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users]
>> constant crashes
>> 
>> 
>> I am sorry, I responded (again) only to Mr. Davies and not the
>> list. There seems to be a trick to it ...
>> 
>> (2013/07/02 18:26), Tom Davies wrote:
>>> Hi Also try
>>> 
>>> Tools - Options - Memory
>>> 
>>> and increase the various sizes.  I have it set at something
>>> like 20Mb/object and above the "Use for LibreOffice" set a LOT
>>> higher than i expect the final documents to be.  Around 50Mb
>>> might be a good idea.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> However, crashes are usually a result of Java behaving badly.
>>> You can probably switch Java off completely or just switch it
>>> off for LIbreOffice
>>> 
>>> Tools - Options - Advanced
>>> 
>>> The top tick-box lets you switch it off.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The next most common cause is some problem in your User Profile
>>> so you might want to temporarily "get back to factory defaults"
>>> by renaming your User Profile 
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile
>>> 
>> Well, I run LO on Win XP SP3, 2.5 GB RAM Turned off ALL other
>> software Set memory per object to 20 MB memory for LO to 50 MB 
>> changed version of JAVA turned JAVA off
>> 
>> so far no improvement.
>> 
>> reset user profile? not yet. Iif I do that, I suppose I loose all
>> my styles, templates, autotext, macros etc., right? Or will they
>> remain available? Anyway, that is an adventure I may try when I
>> am at leisure after dinner or so ...
>> 
>> 
>> One more thing: the exact same thing happens exactly in the same
>> way on three different computers. Two running Windows XP, one Win
>> 7. Can this still be problem with the user profile?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> One person found that upgrading to a more recent version of 
>>> LibreOffice solved a crashing problem
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There is another rare and intermittent bug to do with images.
>>> It's been around since OOo 2.(something) but is very rare and
>>> difficult to pin-down because it is not easy to reproduce
>>> conditions reliably. Best work-arounds are 1.  Switch off the
>>> auto-back-up!  But then you have to keep making sure you do
>>> save regularly and fairly frequently, perhaps incrementing 
>>> versions occasionally to ensure you can easily go back to a
>>> previous state. 2.  to keep a copy of all the images in a
>>> sub-folder in the same folder as the document, or elsewhere
>>> that is easy to get to so that if images do vanish from the
>>> document then it's easy to replace them 3.  Work on your
>>> document locally and then upload back to the network or Cloud
>>> or usb-stick or where-ever you keep it.
>>> 
>>> Regards from Tom
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
*From:* Dries Feys 
>>> *To:* Thomas Blasejewicz  *Cc:*
>>> "users@global.libreoffice.org"  
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 8:45 *Subject:* Re:
>>> [libreoffice-users] constant crashes
>>> 
>>> You could try version 3.6.6 or 4.0.4.
>>> 
>>> Do you have enough ram? On what OS are you working?
>>> 
>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> DRIES FEYS CORPORATE SERVICES • Specialist Software Developer T
>>> +32 56 43 42 45 • F +32 56 43 44 46 • dries.f...@tvh.com 
>>> 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Downloader Not Working

[Scott Castaline]

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On 05/13/2013 06:39 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
> Hey All,
> 
> I get a 404 error from the libre office download server.  I've
> tried from two different Win XP machines and from my CentOS
> machine.  All are running Fire Fox.
> 
> I tried to download the Win version and the linux version.  Both
> just got me a 404 error.
> 
> Is anyone else having a problem with the downloader or is it just
> me?
> 
I have already updated to 4.03 yesterday, but I just tried accessing
it now and it (stopped at downloading prompt) seems fine, at least for
Linux.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.0.1 error "no suitable windowing system found, exiting."

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Okay, that fixed it. Thank you.


On 03/14/2013 02:29 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> Known issue that has been fixed in 4.0.2, work around with "yum -y
> install libpng12" See
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61571 for details.
> 
> Stuart
> 
> ____ From: Scott Castaline
> [skotch...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 1:03 PM To:
> LibreOffice Users Group Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO 4.0.1 error
> "no suitable windowing system found, exiting."
> 
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> Just installed Fedora 18 and tried to install LO 4.0.1. When I try
> to start LO I get the following error, no suitable windowing
> system found, exiting. Google only shows some really old complaints
> of this dating back to 2009. None of the fixes apply to these
> versions (Fedora or LO). I can run the version from Fedora's repo
> which is 3.6.x, but I want to get 4.x.x running I was able to run
> it on my Fedora 17 system, anyone have any other ideas that I could
> try?
> 
> 

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[libreoffice-users] LO 4.0.1 error "no suitable windowing system found, exiting."

[Scott Castaline]

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Just installed Fedora 18 and tried to install LO 4.0.1. When I try to
start LO I get the following error, no suitable windowing system
found, exiting. Google only shows some really old complaints of this
dating back to 2009. None of the fixes apply to these versions (Fedora
or LO). I can run the version from Fedora's repo which is 3.6.x, but I
want to get 4.x.x running I was able to run it on my Fedora 17 system,
anyone have any other ideas that I could try?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reptile Skin design for a 4.0.0 "Persona" / 33+ designs for LO 4.0.0Persona/Themes

[Scott Castaline]

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I had replied to your prior post before reading this one so sorry if
it comes across a little weird. I did find the link to the specific
persona/theme if you want to check it out:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/star-trek-182292/


On 02/18/2013 12:44 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> Edit:
> 
> Just noticed that LibreOffice does not use the defined text
> coloring. I do not know where you can change the font color of the
> menus.
> 
> So, I wonder why LO is not using the persona/theme menu colors.
> Since LO's menu text color is black, you will have to use the
> lighter colored themes.
> 
> 
> On 02/18/2013 12:34 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>> 
>> You have to define it during the submission process.  You give it
>> a name, define the header and footer images, and you define the
>> text and accent colors for menu text.
>> 
>> I do not know of any way to change the menu text in a persona if
>> the designer chose the wrong color for the user.
>> 
>> I try to use either a white color for dark backgrounds or black
>> for the light background.  Maybe later, I will make some
>> backgrounds that will look good with some colored text.  I test
>> my persona/theme designs with Firefox before I submit them.  I do
>> not know of a way to do that with LibreOffice, but maybe later.
>> 
>> Of course, if you can get a hold of the designer, you could let
>> them know that a specific theme and its menu text color did not
>> work for your system.
>> 
>> My "light" reptile skin worked well with my systems, and
>> another's but a user on this list stated it was not "working for
>> them".  SO, I decided to make a really dark version of the same
>> theme and using white text instead of black.
>> 
>> Sorry this does not help you.  For me there are a lot of themes
>> out there that seemed to have dark images and dark text, or
>> others where the text color was not standing out enough to use.
>> 
>> 
>> On 02/18/2013 12:03 PM, Scott Castaline wrote:
> When you say White text are you referring to the menu bar text? If
> so, how do you get it to display in white? I'm using a persona
> from Firefox and I have click on a spot where I think the correct
> menu is to get the drop down. In Firefox and Thunderbird all of the
> text in the menu bar is white so the black background doesn't hide,
> but in Libre the text remains in black, so the text is lost in the
> background.
> 
> 
> On 02/18/2013 08:25 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>>>>> Well, I could make it much darker, but then I would have to
>>>>> use White text.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It looks good on my Ubuntu's LCD monitor, and my Win7
>>>>> laptop.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So decide, dark background and white text or light
>>>>> background with the default black text.
>>>>> 
>>>>> OR you could go and make a theme yourself and submit it to
>>>>> Firefox and get it approved.  Then use that one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 02/18/2013 07:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>>>>> Hi :) I guess it depends somewhat on how your monitor is
>>>>>> set-up. I have 2 that are both supposedly 'correct' but
>>>>>> one is a lot darker than the other.  I put "correct" in
>>>>>> single quotes because i think both those monitors are a
>>>>>> bit wonky and wouldn't be good for editing images.
>>>>>> Regards from Tom :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  From: Urmas 
>>>>>>>  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 5:16 Subject:
>>>>>>> [libreoffice-users] Re: Reptile Skin design for a 4.0.0
>>>>>>> "Persona" / 33+ designs for LO 4.0.0Persona/Themes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I really like how my "LibreOffice Reptile Skin 1"
>>>>>>>> Persona design works out on LibreOffice 4.0.0.
>>>>>>> Seriously? It's so bright that it's unusable.
>>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reptile Skin design for a 4.0.0 "Persona" / 33+ designs for LO 4.0.0Persona/Themes

[Scott Castaline]

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Hmm, I thought it was something in the original "skin" I've seen it
referenced that determined the text color. I use the same persona for
Firefox, Thunderbird and LO 4.0. In Firefox and Thunderbird the text
in question is white, but in LO it's black. Just for your info, its
Star Trek by lolodetahiti.


On 02/18/2013 12:34 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> 
> You have to define it during the submission process.  You give it
> a name, define the header and footer images, and you define the
> text and accent colors for menu text.
> 
> I do not know of any way to change the menu text in a persona if
> the designer chose the wrong color for the user.
> 
> I try to use either a white color for dark backgrounds or black for
> the light background.  Maybe later, I will make some backgrounds
> that will look good with some colored text.  I test my
> persona/theme designs with Firefox before I submit them.  I do not
> know of a way to do that with LibreOffice, but maybe later.
> 
> Of course, if you can get a hold of the designer, you could let
> them know that a specific theme and its menu text color did not
> work for your system.
> 
> My "light" reptile skin worked well with my systems, and another's
> but a user on this list stated it was not "working for them".  SO,
> I decided to make a really dark version of the same theme and using
> white text instead of black.
> 
> Sorry this does not help you.  For me there are a lot of themes
> out there that seemed to have dark images and dark text, or others
> where the text color was not standing out enough to use.
> 
> 
> On 02/18/2013 12:03 PM, Scott Castaline wrote: When you say White
> text are you referring to the menu bar text? If so, how do you get
> it to display in white? I'm using a persona from Firefox and I have
> click on a spot where I think the correct menu is to get the drop
> down. In Firefox and Thunderbird all of the text in the menu bar is
> white so the black background doesn't hide, but in Libre the text
> remains in black, so the text is lost in the background.
> 
> 
> On 02/18/2013 08:25 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
>>>> Well, I could make it much darker, but then I would have to
>>>> use White text.
>>>> 
>>>> It looks good on my Ubuntu's LCD monitor, and my Win7
>>>> laptop.
>>>> 
>>>> So decide, dark background and white text or light background
>>>> with the default black text.
>>>> 
>>>> OR you could go and make a theme yourself and submit it to
>>>> Firefox and get it approved.  Then use that one.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 02/18/2013 07:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>>>>> Hi :) I guess it depends somewhat on how your monitor is
>>>>> set-up. I have 2 that are both supposedly 'correct' but one
>>>>> is a lot darker than the other.  I put "correct" in single
>>>>> quotes because i think both those monitors are a bit wonky
>>>>> and wouldn't be good for editing images. Regards from Tom
>>>>> :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  From: Urmas 
>>>>>>  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013, 5:16 Subject:
>>>>>> [libreoffice-users] Re: Reptile Skin design for a 4.0.0
>>>>>> "Persona" / 33+ designs for LO 4.0.0Persona/Themes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I really like how my "LibreOffice Reptile Skin 1"
>>>>>>> Persona design works out on LibreOffice 4.0.0.
>>>>>> Seriously? It's so bright that it's unusable.
>>>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Reptile Skin design for a 4.0.0 "Persona" / 33+ designs for LO 4.0.0Persona/Themes

[Scott Castaline]

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When you say White text are you referring to the menu bar text? If so,
how do you get it to display in white? I'm using a persona from
Firefox and I have click on a spot where I think the correct menu is
to get the drop down. In Firefox and Thunderbird all of the text in
the menu bar is white so the black background doesn't hide, but in
Libre the text remains in black, so the text is lost in the background.


On 02/18/2013 08:25 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
> 
> Well, I could make it much darker, but then I would have to use
> White text.
> 
> It looks good on my Ubuntu's LCD monitor, and my Win7 laptop.
> 
> So decide, dark background and white text or light background with
> the default black text.
> 
> OR you could go and make a theme yourself and submit it to Firefox
> and get it approved.  Then use that one.
> 
> 
> On 02/18/2013 07:28 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :) I guess it depends somewhat on how your monitor is set-up.
>> I have 2 that are both supposedly 'correct' but one is a lot
>> darker than the other.  I put "correct" in single quotes because
>> i think both those monitors are a bit wonky and wouldn't be good
>> for editing images. Regards from Tom :)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>  From: Urmas
>>>  To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent:
>>> Monday, 18 February 2013, 5:16 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re:
>>> Reptile Skin design for a 4.0.0 "Persona" / 33+ designs for LO
>>> 4.0.0Persona/Themes
>>> 
 I really like how my "LibreOffice Reptile Skin 1" Persona
 design works out on LibreOffice 4.0.0.
>>> Seriously? It's so bright that it's unusable.
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] How-to video of using Firefox Personas

[Scott Castaline]

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I see I'm not the only one playing around with that in 4.0. I thought
it was pretty neat, I now have StarTrekXI personas on FF, T'Bird and LO.
The only drawback is the menu bar text is black so if the persona has
black in that area the text disappears.

On 02/07/2013 08:34 PM, C. H. D. wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I have just created the how-to video of using Firefox Personas:
> 
> http://youtu.be/97EvPYgY3Js
> 
> I hope this video will help people to understand how to create a
> fancy look in LibreOffice. Feel free to watch.
> 
> Regards, C. H. D.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [OT] Wood chucking

[Scott Castaline]

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Thank you Marc, couldn't have sad it better my self. Now let the flame
wars begin again about top vs. bottom posting. I'm normally a bottom
poster, but am trying to convert.

- From another 60 something old fart!


On 08/16/2012 12:55 PM, Marc Grober wrote:
> Give it a rest.
> 
> I am 60. I know what an RFQ and what an RFC is. I know what NATO is
> and what a BFF is, lol.   I know where I can go to find
> acronyms because I spent the time to go look. And if someone
> references zotero,  instead of asking a dozen times what it is, I
> can spend two seconds finding out for myself. The same applies with
> respect to AOO,  which one could find, knowing the context, in 15
> seconds. And I know that no matter what term I might use on
> this list,  someone will argue that they want to know what the term
> means and eventually that I used the term inappropriately.
> 
> Like "Engineering", for example. Let's argue about what an engineer
> is. The neighbor kid thinks an engineer is someone who runs a
> train. Someone want to argue that? I think the Roman Army was
> staffed with engineers. Someone is going to tell me I am mistaken
> because Roman army did ENGineering, not engiNEERing?  SOmeone else
> wants to suggest that today engineers are "Scientists"?  Not
> according to the spokesman for the Higgs Boson team, lol 
> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2012/08/mars-rover-should-not-get-so-much-attention-say-higgs-boson-scientists.html
>
> 
, rofl.  but, come on,  this is a grgeat place to discuss anything
> other than LibreOffice!
> 
> I apologize if I appear rude (yes, I am aware of the Latin root
> and would like to spend some considerable time on this list
> discussing the use of "rude" as meaning impolite, as opposed to
> unlearned,  but think doing that in a new thread would be
> preferable, though we could argue about the appropriateness of a
> new thread to accomplish same here for a bit),  but I have a burr
> under my saddle, as it were, and it seems to me if one is going to
> chew some butt,  one might as well chew as much butt as one can
> chew  kind of a how much wood can a wood chuck chuck thing.
> (no, this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6Ti9xCX_M - has 
> nothing to do with it)
> 
> If one looks at the bandwidth on this list I think one would note,
> on a regular basis, that a substantial portion is spent arguing
> over communication style (as is the case with this epistle.)
> 
> Give it a rest.
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] two dots above the i in presentation.

[Scott Castaline]

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Just to mention, the keys that are annotated as "dead keys" actually
do work but you have to hit the space bar after entering the
particular key. ie to type ~ which is a "dead key" I strike the key as
normal followed by the space bar and the character will be entered. At
least that is what I found with my system.

Linux Fedora 16 kernel = 3.2.9-2.fc16.x86_64
LXDE Desktop Environment
LO 3.4.5 (Fedora blend)
using writer for test bed

On 03/13/2012 10:13 AM, James Knott wrote:
> Cliff Scott wrote:
>>> For those who are interested, it's possible to generate the
>>> various
 special characters by using the U.S. International keyboard.
 With it, you can use the right Alt key to create those
 characters, such as
>>> ü, á,
 , £, € etc. The left Alt key works as usual.
>> Pardon my ignorance, but could you describe how that works or
>> where one would find out that information? Thanks.
>> 
>> C
> 
> Forgot to mention, you can find info on using that layout here: 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_keyboard_layout#US-International
>
>  The Linux and Windows keyboards are very close, though not an
> exact match, to the layout shown.
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] [3.4.4/Windows] How to move cell with mouse?

[Scott Castaline]

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On 01/11/2012 11:09 AM, Alan Boba wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Gilles 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> I want to move cell A1 to A2 with the mouse:
>> 
>> This stumped me for ages, then I found the solution.
> 
> 1. Move cell pointer to desired cell 2. Press Ctrl 3. Click on
> desired cell (note: Click, not Click and hold) 4. Release Ctrl 5.
> Click and hold to drag highlighted cell to new destination
> 
> :-)
> 
Using these instructions work for me as well. Fedora 16, LXDE, LO 3.4.4
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Fedora Libreoffice install problem

[Scott Castaline]

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On 12/28/2011 05:08 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
> Clinton
> 
> On 12/27/2011 05:54 PM, Clinton Lucas wrote:
>> Having installed Libreoffice on Fedora 16, I get and error:
>> "This operation not supported on this operating system".  I
>> installed using the "Add/Remove software" application and all
>> seemed to work fine".  It is only when I try to run the
>> application that I get the error.
>> 
>> I am new to Linnux and open office systems and I ould be most
>> grateful for any help that you can give.
>> 
>> Regards Clinton Lucas
>> 
>> -- View this message in context: 
>> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Fedora-Libreoffice-install-problem-tp3615236p3615236.html
>>
>>
>> 
Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>> 
> Which version of LO are you using, I am assuming 3.4.4?
> 
> Check to see that you are installing the correct architecture (32or
> 64 bit). The 32 bit is sometimes called x86.
> 
Assuming (as much as I hate to use that word) he is using the package
manger in Fedora then it should install the correct arch which is
determined by the arch of the OS. That would also be version 3.4.4 as
that is what is in the Fedora repos.

Clinton, does this happen when you first launch a LO app from you menu
or icon? I presume that the error is in a dialogue box as well?
You may want to open a terminal and enter the appropriate command for
the app you want to launch and see what gets outputted to the terminal
prior to this message.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Showing hidden files/folders

[Scott Castaline]

On 12/04/2011 11:51 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/04/2011 06:35 PM, Scott Castaline wrote:

On 12/04/2011 04:59 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/04/2011 06:56 AM, Scott Castaline wrote:

Does anyone know how to turn on "Show Hidden Files/Folders"? The LO Save
or Save As does not appear to have the option to enable it. There used
to be a way in the Options Dialogue under General to select System Wide
Dialogues which in the past worked for this problem, but I can't seem to
find that anymore.

I have LO ver. 3.4.4 on Fedora 16

...
Tools|Options|General|Open/Save dialogs|uncheck 'Use Libreoffice
dialogs'. File|Open|right click in the file section&   click on 'Show
Hidden Files'.




It's not there. I can remember it being there in older versions, but for
some reason not this one. I have gone through each section under
options, thinking that maybe I didn't remember it right, even went to
tools->customize, and of course it wasn't there. I am using the version
as available on the Fedora 16 repo, which is what I've always done once
LO replaced OOo on Fedora, but that shouldn't matter.


Ah. It's a distro issue. I just brought up Linux Mint 12 LO 3.4.4 and
the option is missing there as well. Fired up Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty) and
the option is there with LO 3.3.4 (distro version). I reckon that the
distro packagers are trying to dumb down everything... including LO.
File an LO bug in both Fedora and LO.

Note: installing directly from LO (3.3.4 or 3.4.x) has the option, so
it's definately a distro packaging issue.

[TAG] LibreOffice linux distribution versions missing
'Tools|Options|General|Open/Save dialogs' option.




Yep, that's what I was beginning to think. I don't know why unless they 
want LO to maintain its own environment? Not sure if that is phrased 
correctly. Or maybe something has changed in the way LO requests that 
dialogue and the way the system responds to the request. I wonder if 
completing the change over to systemd has anything to do with it. If 
someone has Fedora 15 that was the last version before everything was 
cut over to systemd.


Based on that I am planning on filing a bug report with Fedora for 
removing that option and with LO for not allowing the ability to do from 
their own dialogue. Would you mind replying with a link for doing the LO 
bug report?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Showing hidden files/folders

[Scott Castaline]

On 12/04/2011 04:59 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 12/04/2011 06:56 AM, Scott Castaline wrote:

Does anyone know how to turn on "Show Hidden Files/Folders"? The LO Save
or Save As does not appear to have the option to enable it. There used
to be a way in the Options Dialogue under General to select System Wide
Dialogues which in the past worked for this problem, but I can't seem to
find that anymore.

I have LO ver. 3.4.4 on Fedora 16

...
Tools|Options|General|Open/Save dialogs|uncheck 'Use Libreoffice
dialogs'. File|Open|right click in the file section&  click on 'Show
Hidden Files'.



It's not there. I can remember it being there in older versions, but for 
some reason not this one. I have gone through each section under 
options, thinking that maybe I didn't remember it right, even went to 
tools->customize, and of course it wasn't there. I am using the version 
as available on the Fedora 16 repo, which is what I've always done once 
LO replaced OOo on Fedora, but that shouldn't matter.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Showing hidden files/folders

[Scott Castaline]

On 12/04/2011 11:53 AM, Jay Lozier wrote:

Scott

On 12/04/2011 09:56 AM, Scott Castaline wrote:
Does anyone know how to turn on "Show Hidden Files/Folders"? The LO 
Save or Save As does not appear to have the option to enable it. 
There used to be a way in the Options Dialogue under General to 
select System Wide Dialogues which in the past worked for this 
problem, but I can't seem to find that anymore.


I have LO ver. 3.4.4 on Fedora 16

Thanks
Scott Castaline


In your file browser (Dolphin, etc) under View select Show Hidden FIles

I have it set to Show Hidden Files in both Konqueror and PCManFM. Yes I 
use Konqueror as a File Manager as it's more flexible than PCManFM the 
default FM for LXDE and it still makes no difference.


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[libreoffice-users] Showing hidden files/folders

[Scott Castaline]

Does anyone know how to turn on "Show Hidden Files/Folders"? The LO Save 
or Save As does not appear to have the option to enable it. There used 
to be a way in the Options Dialogue under General to select System Wide 
Dialogues which in the past worked for this problem, but I can't seem to 
find that anymore.


I have LO ver. 3.4.4 on Fedora 16

Thanks
Scott Castaline

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Re: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists

[Scott Castaline]

On 11/26/2011 11:27 AM, David wrote:

On 11/26/2011 11:20 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
We have phases.  This is a fairly bad phase but we have had worse and got through.  
Typically we arrive the other side of these bad times better friends than we were 
previously and with more understanding of how other people think.  It's all part of being 
in a community.  Someone has an excellent signature saying something like "Friends 
argue.  Non-friends just don't care enough".

Regards from
Tom :)


Well I was wondering. I joined these lists hoping for 'pearls of
wisdom'. If I want bickering, name calling, or insults I could just call
my ex-wife.

:-)

All my exes live in Texas :-)




--- On Sat, 26/11/11, David  wrote:


From: David
Subject: [libreoffice-users] The tone of thiese Lists
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 26 November, 2011, 16:08
Is it just me or is the tone of the
messages on these lists turned
extremely hostile as of late?





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to crash

[Scott Castaline]

I just realized that on Fedora 16 at least with the LXDE DE the 
.libreoffice folder is kept under the .config folder in the users home 
folder. It used to be directly in the home folder. Anyway I did get it 
to crash again when closing this one and only one spreadsheet. Through 
several trial and error delete and restore of different folders/files I 
had found the culprit, which makes it even more confusing to me.


I keep a copy of my wife's expense report template from her job in the 
template folder (/home/me/.config/.libreoffice/3/user/template) that is 
a MS Excel template format. When I deleted the file it stopped crashing, 
but restoring the file the crashing starts again. Now opening this file, 
which I have a desktop icon that launches it for me, and then closing it 
does not cause a crash, but opening my budget spreadsheet in ods and 
then closing it will cause a crash. Again delte the xlt file and no more 
crashing. What gives?


On 11/15/2011 08:28 AM, Scott Castaline wrote:
Just an update. Due to problems I started having with the XFCE DE, i 
did a fresh install of Fedora 16 using the LXDE DE restoring my 
configuration files from the "old" system. I am now running LO with 
the original .libreoffice folder that was causing the crash with no 
further problems for now. So I'm not sure what in particular caused 
the crash for one file in just one DE.


On 11/08/2011 08:12 AM, Scott Castaline wrote:
I had finally just settled on blowing off my .libreoffice folder 
saving the contents of the template sub-folder, and redoing the 
changes to the registrymodifications.xcu file and all was good. Then 
along came an update from Fedora and now any changes made to the 
registry will cause the app to crash upon closing this one file. I 
don't know what it is about this file that is causing this to happen. 
I have even copied back in a version of the file before all of this 
started and that will cause the app to crash as well.


Any suggestions?

On 11/05/2011 01:31 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
My guess would be it's an extension. So i would start by copying the
~/.libreoffice/3/user/extensions
folder across and see if that crashed LO when you re-open it.  There 
are 16 items in the

~/.libreoffice/3/user
folder so i would move half, 8.  Test.  Then move a remaining half, 
4 ... and so on until LO crashes and then delete the half you just 
added and add half that back in.  By doing half each time you can 
narrow it down quite quickly.


It is probably obvious to you but a lot of people would do this 1 
file in 1 sub-folder at a time and perhaps draw-up a tick list on 
paper. [big yawn]

Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Sat, 5/11/11, Scott Castaline  wrote:


From: Scott Castaline
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to 
crash

To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 5 November, 2011, 2:35
I was planning on doing that at a
later time. I'll pass on any info I
get out of this to the list. I was basically putting
feelers out to see
if anyone had this happen to them and if so what did they
find to fix
it, to possibly narrow it down some.

On 11/04/2011 12:48 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It's unlikely to be the change of DE.  Apparently

the config folder / user-profile can be copied from Windows
to a Gnu&Linux and mostly works from Gnu&Linux to
Windows so a change of DE 'should be' relatively minor.

Have you been able to try copying chunks from your old

KDE user-profile into the newer profile to regain extensions
and things?  Ahah, maybe an extension is getting
confused.  Most of the sub-folders from your old KDE
profile should copy across fine.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 4/11/11, Scott Castaline

wrote:

From: Scott Castaline
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings

causing calc to crash

To: "LibreOffice"
Date: Friday, 4 November, 2011, 14:44
I recently installed Fedora 16 Beta
on my main system using xfce for my DE. At first I

had no

problems with any LO documents, but when I

restored my

.libreoffice folder from a backup of my Fedora 15

system I

suddenly started experiencing crashes. I narrowed

it down to

one specific spreadsheet that would consistently

crash

("Process

/usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin was

killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)"). This had suddenly

started

after I had done the restore of .libreoffice

folder. I

renamed this folder so that the program would then

recreate

the default settings and the crashing has stopped.

I could

just leave it as is and continue from there, but I

was

curious as to what could have been the actual

culprit. My

backed up Fedora 15 system was using KDE for the

DE, could

the change from KDE to xfce have had a negative

impact on

just this one spreadsheet?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to crash

[Scott Castaline]

Just an update. Due to problems I started having with the XFCE DE, i did 
a fresh install of Fedora 16 using the LXDE DE restoring my 
configuration files from the "old" system. I am now running LO with the 
original .libreoffice folder that was causing the crash with no further 
problems for now. So I'm not sure what in particular caused the crash 
for one file in just one DE.


On 11/08/2011 08:12 AM, Scott Castaline wrote:
I had finally just settled on blowing off my .libreoffice folder 
saving the contents of the template sub-folder, and redoing the 
changes to the registrymodifications.xcu file and all was good. Then 
along came an update from Fedora and now any changes made to the 
registry will cause the app to crash upon closing this one file. I 
don't know what it is about this file that is causing this to happen. 
I have even copied back in a version of the file before all of this 
started and that will cause the app to crash as well.


Any suggestions?

On 11/05/2011 01:31 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
My guess would be it's an extension. So i would start by copying the
~/.libreoffice/3/user/extensions
folder across and see if that crashed LO when you re-open it.  There 
are 16 items in the

~/.libreoffice/3/user
folder so i would move half, 8.  Test.  Then move a remaining half, 4 
... and so on until LO crashes and then delete the half you just 
added and add half that back in.  By doing half each time you can 
narrow it down quite quickly.


It is probably obvious to you but a lot of people would do this 1 
file in 1 sub-folder at a time and perhaps draw-up a tick list on 
paper. [big yawn]

Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Sat, 5/11/11, Scott Castaline  wrote:


From: Scott Castaline
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to 
crash

To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 5 November, 2011, 2:35
I was planning on doing that at a
later time. I'll pass on any info I
get out of this to the list. I was basically putting
feelers out to see
if anyone had this happen to them and if so what did they
find to fix
it, to possibly narrow it down some.

On 11/04/2011 12:48 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It's unlikely to be the change of DE.  Apparently

the config folder / user-profile can be copied from Windows
to a Gnu&Linux and mostly works from Gnu&Linux to
Windows so a change of DE 'should be' relatively minor.

Have you been able to try copying chunks from your old

KDE user-profile into the newer profile to regain extensions
and things?  Ahah, maybe an extension is getting
confused.  Most of the sub-folders from your old KDE
profile should copy across fine.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 4/11/11, Scott Castaline

wrote:

From: Scott Castaline
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings

causing calc to crash

To: "LibreOffice"
Date: Friday, 4 November, 2011, 14:44
I recently installed Fedora 16 Beta
on my main system using xfce for my DE. At first I

had no

problems with any LO documents, but when I

restored my

.libreoffice folder from a backup of my Fedora 15

system I

suddenly started experiencing crashes. I narrowed

it down to

one specific spreadsheet that would consistently

crash

("Process

/usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin was

killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)"). This had suddenly

started

after I had done the restore of .libreoffice

folder. I

renamed this folder so that the program would then

recreate

the default settings and the crashing has stopped.

I could

just leave it as is and continue from there, but I

was

curious as to what could have been the actual

culprit. My

backed up Fedora 15 system was using KDE for the

DE, could

the change from KDE to xfce have had a negative

impact on

just this one spreadsheet?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to crash

[Scott Castaline]

I had finally just settled on blowing off my .libreoffice folder saving 
the contents of the template sub-folder, and redoing the changes to the 
registrymodifications.xcu file and all was good. Then along came an 
update from Fedora and now any changes made to the registry will cause 
the app to crash upon closing this one file. I don't know what it is 
about this file that is causing this to happen. I have even copied back 
in a version of the file before all of this started and that will cause 
the app to crash as well.


Any suggestions?

On 11/05/2011 01:31 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
My guess would be it's an extension. So i would start by copying the
~/.libreoffice/3/user/extensions
folder across and see if that crashed LO when you re-open it.  There are 16 
items in the
~/.libreoffice/3/user
folder so i would move half, 8.  Test.  Then move a remaining half, 4 ... and 
so on until LO crashes and then delete the half you just added and add half 
that back in.  By doing half each time you can narrow it down quite quickly.

It is probably obvious to you but a lot of people would do this 1 file in 1 
sub-folder at a time and perhaps draw-up a tick list on paper. [big yawn]
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Sat, 5/11/11, Scott Castaline  wrote:


From: Scott Castaline
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to crash
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 5 November, 2011, 2:35
I was planning on doing that at a
later time. I'll pass on any info I
get out of this to the list. I was basically putting
feelers out to see
if anyone had this happen to them and if so what did they
find to fix
it, to possibly narrow it down some.

On 11/04/2011 12:48 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It's unlikely to be the change of DE.  Apparently

the config folder / user-profile can be copied from Windows
to a Gnu&Linux and mostly works from Gnu&Linux to
Windows so a change of DE 'should be' relatively minor.

Have you been able to try copying chunks from your old

KDE user-profile into the newer profile to regain extensions
and things?  Ahah, maybe an extension is getting
confused.  Most of the sub-folders from your old KDE
profile should copy across fine.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 4/11/11, Scott Castaline

wrote:

From: Scott Castaline
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings

causing calc to crash

To: "LibreOffice"
Date: Friday, 4 November, 2011, 14:44
I recently installed Fedora 16 Beta
on my main system using xfce for my DE. At first I

had no

problems with any LO documents, but when I

restored my

.libreoffice folder from a backup of my Fedora 15

system I

suddenly started experiencing crashes. I narrowed

it down to

one specific spreadsheet that would consistently

crash

("Process

/usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin was

killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)"). This had suddenly

started

after I had done the restore of .libreoffice

folder. I

renamed this folder so that the program would then

recreate

the default settings and the crashing has stopped.

I could

just leave it as is and continue from there, but I

was

curious as to what could have been the actual

culprit. My

backed up Fedora 15 system was using KDE for the

DE, could

the change from KDE to xfce have had a negative

impact on

just this one spreadsheet?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to crash

[Scott Castaline]

At my age it's called OleTimerz :-)

On 11/05/2011 01:40 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Errr, asking this list was a good 1st move and is probably what i would do.  
Hopefully someone might appear that does know exactly what caused it.  It's 
difficult to know how flustered someone is or how experienced with this sort of 
thing.  I sometimes get flustered and just need a calming nudge to remind me.
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sat, 5/11/11, Scott Castaline  wrote:


From: Scott Castaline
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to crash
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Saturday, 5 November, 2011, 2:35
I was planning on doing that at a
later time. I'll pass on any info I
get out of this to the list. I was basically putting
feelers out to see
if anyone had this happen to them and if so what did they
find to fix
it, to possibly narrow it down some.

On 11/04/2011 12:48 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It's unlikely to be the change of DE.  Apparently

the config folder / user-profile can be copied from Windows
to a Gnu&Linux and mostly works from Gnu&Linux to
Windows so a change of DE 'should be' relatively minor.

Have you been able to try copying chunks from your old

KDE user-profile into the newer profile to regain extensions
and things?  Ahah, maybe an extension is getting
confused.  Most of the sub-folders from your old KDE
profile should copy across fine.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 4/11/11, Scott Castaline

wrote:

From: Scott Castaline
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings

causing calc to crash

To: "LibreOffice"
Date: Friday, 4 November, 2011, 14:44
I recently installed Fedora 16 Beta
on my main system using xfce for my DE. At first I

had no

problems with any LO documents, but when I

restored my

.libreoffice folder from a backup of my Fedora 15

system I

suddenly started experiencing crashes. I narrowed

it down to

one specific spreadsheet that would consistently

crash

("Process

/usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin was

killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)"). This had suddenly

started

after I had done the restore of .libreoffice

folder. I

renamed this folder so that the program would then

recreate

the default settings and the crashing has stopped.

I could

just leave it as is and continue from there, but I

was

curious as to what could have been the actual

culprit. My

backed up Fedora 15 system was using KDE for the

DE, could

the change from KDE to xfce have had a negative

impact on

just this one spreadsheet?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice Won't Remember Printer Settings

[Scott Castaline]

How about Tools -> Options -> LibreOffice -> General; under Document 
Status check Printing set "document modified" status? That may force a 
save of any changes you made for printing that particular document, I'm 
not 100% sure of that but it maybe worth a try.


On 11/04/2011 04:05 PM, 2CV67 wrote:

Thanks for your comment.

Yes, in Tools>  Options>  Load/Save>  General,   I have always had both the
first 2 items checked:
- Load user-specific settings with the document.
- Load printer settings with the document.
But it still does not work.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to crash

[Scott Castaline]

I was planning on doing that at a later time. I'll pass on any info I 
get out of this to the list. I was basically putting feelers out to see 
if anyone had this happen to them and if so what did they find to fix 
it, to possibly narrow it down some.


On 11/04/2011 12:48 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
It's unlikely to be the change of DE.  Apparently the config folder / user-profile can 
be copied from Windows to a Gnu&Linux and mostly works from Gnu&Linux to 
Windows so a change of DE 'should be' relatively minor.

Have you been able to try copying chunks from your old KDE user-profile into 
the newer profile to regain extensions and things?  Ahah, maybe an extension is 
getting confused.  Most of the sub-folders from your old KDE profile should 
copy across fine.

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Fri, 4/11/11, Scott Castaline  wrote:


From: Scott Castaline
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to crash
To: "LibreOffice"
Date: Friday, 4 November, 2011, 14:44
I recently installed Fedora 16 Beta
on my main system using xfce for my DE. At first I had no
problems with any LO documents, but when I restored my
.libreoffice folder from a backup of my Fedora 15 system I
suddenly started experiencing crashes. I narrowed it down to
one specific spreadsheet that would consistently crash
("Process /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin was
killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)"). This had suddenly started
after I had done the restore of .libreoffice folder. I
renamed this folder so that the program would then recreate
the default settings and the crashing has stopped. I could
just leave it as is and continue from there, but I was
curious as to what could have been the actual culprit. My
backed up Fedora 15 system was using KDE for the DE, could
the change from KDE to xfce have had a negative impact on
just this one spreadsheet?

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[libreoffice-users] Personal settings causing calc to crash

[Scott Castaline]

I recently installed Fedora 16 Beta on my main system using xfce for my 
DE. At first I had no problems with any LO documents, but when I 
restored my .libreoffice folder from a backup of my Fedora 15 system I 
suddenly started experiencing crashes. I narrowed it down to one 
specific spreadsheet that would consistently crash ("Process 
/usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin was killed by signal 11 
(SIGSEGV)"). This had suddenly started after I had done the restore of 
.libreoffice folder. I renamed this folder so that the program would 
then recreate the default settings and the crashing has stopped. I could 
just leave it as is and continue from there, but I was curious as to 
what could have been the actual culprit. My backed up Fedora 15 system 
was using KDE for the DE, could the change from KDE to xfce have had a 
negative impact on just this one spreadsheet?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] MS plans to force OEMs to add boot feature that blocks use of Linux and free software.

[Scott Castaline]

On 10/19/2011 11:08 PM, Don Myers wrote:

Have any of you run across this?
http://www.ecis.eu/documents/Finalversion_Consumerchoicepaper.pdf
I ran across this about a year and a half ago. It is an excellent 
documentation put together for the European Union. I started to 
boycott Microsoft products about 6 years ago. Ronald Reagan said the 
Soviet Union was the evil empire. I've heard it said that Microsoft is 
the evil empire of the corporate world.


Don


One thing missing was the near death of Citrix at the hands of Microsoft.

On 10/19/2011 10:37 PM, planas wrote:

Scott

On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 13:42 -0400, Scott Castaline wrote:


My comments were based on articles written when this first hit. At that
time M$ was pushing for no option available to disable this function 
and

their explanation was that it would allow "breaking" of their system.
The option that you mention was being discussed as a possible option 
for

mfgs, but again M$ was fighting that at the time. Also note that I had
stated that "if M$ gets their way" which I personally don't think would
be possible, but then we never usually see what goes on behind 
closed doors.


We have seen that in the past M$ used pressure tactics to prevent mfgs
from supporting "other OSes". Although M$ of today is much weaker there
has been recent developments that could be interpreted that they maybe
up to some of their old tricks with a slightly different twist to them.
That's all I was trying to say.


You would not be accusing MS of trying to lock everyone out of the OS.
Actually they may force their own death because people using other
devices and the cloud could be much less dependent on MS products than
now. I would hope that some European at least and preferably the US
government threatens serious lawsuits with the possibility of real jail
time.


On 10/19/2011 01:00 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

Come on people, please do a little research before spreading FUD...

This is an OPTION in the BIOS, one that can be TURNED OFF.

Any systems manufacturer that disallowed the ability to turn it off
would be committing commercial suicide imnsho...

Yes, there is some *potential* for this becoming a problem in the
dustant future, but not in the next 5 or 10 years...

On 2011-10-19 12:43 PM, Scott Castaline  wrote:

On 10/19/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:

On 19 October 2011 16:59, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<
webmas...@krackedpress.com>  wrote:


Please read the linked article. [below]

If Microsoft gets away with this, then no computer that has a
Windows 8
logo on it will not be able to boot from free OSs like Linux. This
will be
part of the BIOS. You might not be able to run free software like
LibreOffice, if it goes to the extreme end.


I should think that is illegal under competition law.

To me, if MS get away with forcing OEMs to make it so their systems
cannot

run Linux, then it is another anti-trust violation for MS. Billy
boy is
going back to court about unfair practices from the 90's, so if
people do
not step up now to convince OEMs that we will not buy their 
products

if they
implement the free OS and software blocker at the BOOT LEVEL, 
then we

cannot
buy any new computers for Linux.

We can buy new computers, just not those that come with Windows. 
Might

even
be an advantage since there will be a niche market in supplying
hardware
that is not restricted in that way. I might start a new business :-)

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**
Above link is broken, but the problem is that, how many OEM's will 
deem
it profitable to manufacture 2 different versions of their 
systems. That
also eliminates dual booting M$ and OpenSource OSes on the same 
PC. This
will also impact the MoBos manufacturers as they already make 2 
versions

of their product to support Intel and AMD now it'll have to be 4
versions. I don't think that'll happen. It's more likely, if M$ gets
their way, one will have to some how hack the boards which will more
than likely nullify any warranties which will then send OpenSource 
back

to just hobbyists and such and non acceptance by others.

foundation-urges-oems-to-say-**no-to-mandatory-windows-8-**
uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&**tag=nl.rSINGLE<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-foundation-urges-oems-to-say-no-to-mandatory-windows-8-uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&tag=nl.rSINGLE>< 




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uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&**tag=nl.rSINGLE<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-foundation-urges-oems-to-say-no-to-mandatory-windows-8-uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&tag=nl.rSINGLE> 




Free Software Foundation urges OEMs to say no to mandatory 
Windows 8

UEFI
cage

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols | October 18, 2011, 1:26pm PDT

Summary: The Free Software Foundation

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] MS plans to force OEMs to add boot feature that blocks use of Linux and free software.

[Scott Castaline]

My comments were based on articles written when this first hit. At that 
time M$ was pushing for no option available to disable this function and 
their explanation was that it would allow "breaking" of their system. 
The option that you mention was being discussed as a possible option for 
mfgs, but again M$ was fighting that at the time. Also note that I had 
stated that "if M$ gets their way" which I personally don't think would 
be possible, but then we never usually see what goes on behind closed doors.


We have seen that in the past M$ used pressure tactics to prevent mfgs 
from supporting "other OSes". Although M$ of today is much weaker there 
has been recent developments that could be interpreted that they maybe 
up to some of their old tricks with a slightly different twist to them. 
That's all I was trying to say.

On 10/19/2011 01:00 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:

Come on people, please do a little research before spreading FUD...

This is an OPTION in the BIOS, one that can be TURNED OFF.

Any systems manufacturer that disallowed the ability to turn it off 
would be committing commercial suicide imnsho...


Yes, there is some *potential* for this becoming a problem in the 
dustant future, but not in the next 5 or 10 years...


On 2011-10-19 12:43 PM, Scott Castaline  wrote:

On 10/19/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:

On 19 October 2011 16:59, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<
webmas...@krackedpress.com> wrote:


Please read the linked article. [below]

If Microsoft gets away with this, then no computer that has a 
Windows 8

logo on it will not be able to boot from free OSs like Linux. This
will be
part of the BIOS. You might not be able to run free software like
LibreOffice, if it goes to the extreme end.


I should think that is illegal under competition law.

To me, if MS get away with forcing OEMs to make it so their systems
cannot
run Linux, then it is another anti-trust violation for MS. Billy 
boy is

going back to court about unfair practices from the 90's, so if
people do
not step up now to convince OEMs that we will not buy their products
if they
implement the free OS and software blocker at the BOOT LEVEL, then we
cannot
buy any new computers for Linux.


We can buy new computers, just not those that come with Windows. Might
even
be an advantage since there will be a niche market in supplying 
hardware

that is not restricted in that way. I might start a new business :-)

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**

Above link is broken, but the problem is that, how many OEM's will deem
it profitable to manufacture 2 different versions of their systems. That
also eliminates dual booting M$ and OpenSource OSes on the same PC. This
will also impact the MoBos manufacturers as they already make 2 versions
of their product to support Intel and AMD now it'll have to be 4
versions. I don't think that'll happen. It's more likely, if M$ gets
their way, one will have to some how hack the boards which will more
than likely nullify any warranties which will then send OpenSource back
to just hobbyists and such and non acceptance by others.

foundation-urges-oems-to-say-**no-to-mandatory-windows-8-**
uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&**tag=nl.rSINGLE<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-foundation-urges-oems-to-say-no-to-mandatory-windows-8-uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&tag=nl.rSINGLE>< 



http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**
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uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&**tag=nl.rSINGLE<http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/free-software-foundation-urges-oems-to-say-no-to-mandatory-windows-8-uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&tag=nl.rSINGLE> 



Free Software Foundation urges OEMs to say no to mandatory Windows 8
UEFI
cage

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols | October 18, 2011, 1:26pm PDT

Summary: The Free Software Foundation is asking OEMs to give users a
choice
on Microsoft anti-Linux Windows 8's United Extensive Firmware security
"feature."

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] MS plans to force OEMs to add boot feature that blocks use of Linux and free software.

[Scott Castaline]

On 10/19/2011 12:11 PM, Ian Lynch wrote:

On 19 October 2011 16:59, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions<
webmas...@krackedpress.com>  wrote:


Please read the linked article. [below]

If Microsoft gets away with this, then no computer that has a Windows 8
logo on it will not be able to boot from free OSs like Linux.  This will be
part of the BIOS.  You might not be able to run free software like
LibreOffice, if it goes to the extreme end.


I should think that is illegal under competition law.

To me, if MS get away with forcing OEMs to make it so their systems cannot

run Linux, then it is another anti-trust violation for MS.  Billy boy is
going back to court about unfair practices from the 90's, so if people do
not step up now to convince OEMs that we will not buy their products if they
implement the free OS and software blocker at the BOOT LEVEL, then we cannot
buy any new computers for Linux.


We can buy new computers, just not those that come with Windows. Might even
be an advantage since there will be a niche market in supplying hardware
that is not restricted in that way.  I might start a new business :-)

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**
Above link is broken, but the problem is that, how many OEM's will deem 
it profitable to manufacture 2 different versions of their systems. That 
also eliminates dual booting M$ and OpenSource OSes on the same PC. This 
will also impact the MoBos manufacturers as they already make 2 versions 
of their product to support Intel and AMD now it'll have to be 4 
versions. I don't think that'll happen. It's more likely, if M$ gets 
their way, one will have to some how hack the boards which will more 
than likely nullify any warranties which will then send OpenSource back 
to just hobbyists and such and non acceptance by others.

foundation-urges-oems-to-say-**no-to-mandatory-windows-8-**
uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&**tag=nl.rSINGLE<
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/**open-source/free-software-**
foundation-urges-oems-to-say-**no-to-mandatory-windows-8-**
uefi-cage/9770?alertspromo=&**tag=nl.rSINGLE
Free Software Foundation urges OEMs to say no to mandatory Windows 8 UEFI
cage

By Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols | October 18, 2011, 1:26pm PDT

Summary: The Free Software Foundation is asking OEMs to give users a choice
on Microsoft anti-Linux Windows 8's United Extensive Firmware security
"feature."

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: sheet name font size

[Scott Castaline]

On 06/08/2011 04:41 PM, T. R. Valentine wrote:

On 8 June 2011 15:04, T. M. Hind II  wrote:

I'm also having the same problem with font size!

And it would also help to know what OS you are using.


oops sorry! Fedora 15  2.6.38.7-30.fc15.x86_64
LibreOffice 3.3.2

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Calc: sheet name font size

[Scott Castaline]

Anyone know of a way to adjust the font size for sheet names. My tabs 
are so small that I can't see the text in them.


TIA

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Post is not showing up

[Scott Castaline]

On 02/24/2011 01:24 PM, Ron Gregor wrote:

How long does a post take to show up? I have tried to submit a a post yesterday 
and again
today. If a post is rejected will we be notified? How can we tell is 
subscription was finalized? I
replied to confirmation email but then nothing?

Thanks,
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Ron, you may want to check your system clock as this post showed up with 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't Install LibreOffice on Fedora 14 with OpenOffice

[Scott Castaline]

On 02/25/2011 04:49 AM, Sigrid Carrera wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:02:07 -0800 (PST)
Bad2theBone  wrote:


What is the status of this issue? I have the same problem. I have both OOo&
LO installed but cannot install the desktop-environment rpm for redhat-menu.
What is the commands to launch each app, so for now I could manually create
menu entrees?

The usual way is using

swriter
scalc
simpress

and so on to start the individual modules. But since you have both OOo and LibO 
installed, you might want to call the app with the complete path to make sure, 
that the correct one starts. Once you've done this, you could create some 
aliases like owriter and lwriter to be able to differentiate between the two 
software packages.

Sigrid.


I did finally get it to install using rpm -ivh --force rpm-file-name. I 
saw this in another thread basically complaining about the same thing. I 
was not able to find an equivalent in yum as I prefer to use that. 
Thanks for the response. I did finally figure out the commands just the 
way you give them. Pretty neat how LO was able to duplicate my settings 
from OOo as well as my templates, so everything is there and functioning 
as before with OOo.


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