+1 aside Fw: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions]
Hi :) Traditionally a binary digit is usually thought of as +1 or 0, on or off, that sort of thing. So i hadn't really thought of what the opposite of a +1 is but voting is not binary anyway and -1 makes more sense. Regards from Tom :) - Forwarded Message - >From: Felmon Davis >To: users@global.libreoffice.org >Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 7:53 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions] > >On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Brian Barker wrote: > >> At 08:23 22/11/2012 -0500, Virgil Aonly wrote: >>> The fact that the original questioner on this thread had to ask how to >>> disable so many autocorrect features, I think, proves my point. >> >> No - it just shows that he now knows about automatic correction *and* how to >> control it. >> >>> A user simply trying to type a document should never have to ask why the >>> program is making unintended changes to his work. >> >> Saying you don't want *unintended* changes is tautologous: you don't want >> what you don't want. No-one can argue with that. But that may require the >> program to read your mind. >> >> It all depends on what you mean by "changes". If I type a complete sentence >> on one line of my document, the program *changes* what I typed by flowing >> the text onto multiple lines. I've typed a page or two and then decide to >> increase the font size of all my text; the program now *changes* what I had >> by reflowing the text to fit. I type a new value into a spreadsheet cell, >> the program *changes* all the cells with formulae depending on it - without >> my going near them! >> >> If you don't want a program to make any automatic changes, you probably want >> a typewriter. >> >> ;^) > >the emoticon is appropriate as the argument is obviously a strawman. > >everyone expects text to 're-flow', no one expects that in the sequence > >(a) ... >(b) ... >(c) ... > >the last value will become the copyright symbol. > >I've learned to turn this bit of buggery off after long travails but why 'long >travails'? 'cause you forget about it until the next time you do a sequence >and there the darned thing is again! > >I also '+1' or whatever (how high is one allowed to go?) that "(i)" should not >generate "(I)". you certainly cannot argue this is as natural as paragraph >reflowing. > >but your point about tautologies is well-taken ((+2)?) since the sense of it >is "diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks," that is, some may want some >autocorrections that are abominations to others. > >I would vote for limiting autocorrections to frequent misspellings and leave >'fancy formatting' out of it. anyone who mistypes a word will notice the >autocorrection utility so there is no danger the resource will go unnoticed. > >is there such a thing as "-1"? > >F. > >-- Felmon Davis > >Birds are entangled by their feet and men by their tongues. > >-- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: +1 aside Fw: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions]
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Traditionally a binary digit is usually thought of as +1 or 0, on or off, that sort of thing. So i hadn't really thought of what the opposite of a +1 is but voting is not binary anyway and -1 makes more sense. Regards from Tom :) yeah, I've seen '+2', I've never seen '+10'. people used to say 'me too' but that got pooh-poohed. bad form. F. - Forwarded Message - From: Felmon Davis To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 23 November 2012, 7:53 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] [Ten questions] On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Brian Barker wrote: At 08:23 22/11/2012 -0500, Virgil Aonly wrote: The fact that the original questioner on this thread had to ask how to disable so many autocorrect features, I think, proves my point. No - it just shows that he now knows about automatic correction *and* how to control it. A user simply trying to type a document should never have to ask why the program is making unintended changes to his work. Saying you don't want *unintended* changes is tautologous: you don't want what you don't want. No-one can argue with that. But that may require the program to read your mind. It all depends on what you mean by "changes". If I type a complete sentence on one line of my document, the program *changes* what I typed by flowing the text onto multiple lines. I've typed a page or two and then decide to increase the font size of all my text; the program now *changes* what I had by reflowing the text to fit. I type a new value into a spreadsheet cell, the program *changes* all the cells with formulae depending on it - without my going near them! If you don't want a program to make any automatic changes, you probably want a typewriter. ;^) the emoticon is appropriate as the argument is obviously a strawman. everyone expects text to 're-flow', no one expects that in the sequence (a) ... (b) ... (c) ... the last value will become the copyright symbol. I've learned to turn this bit of buggery off after long travails but why 'long travails'? 'cause you forget about it until the next time you do a sequence and there the darned thing is again! I also '+1' or whatever (how high is one allowed to go?) that "(i)" should not generate "(I)". you certainly cannot argue this is as natural as paragraph reflowing. but your point about tautologies is well-taken ((+2)?) since the sense of it is "diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks," that is, some may want some autocorrections that are abominations to others. I would vote for limiting autocorrections to frequent misspellings and leave 'fancy formatting' out of it. anyone who mistypes a word will notice the autocorrection utility so there is no danger the resource will go unnoticed. is there such a thing as "-1"? F. -- Felmon Davis Birds are entangled by their feet and men by their tongues. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Felmon Davis Birds are entangled by their feet and men by their tongues. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted