Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-21 Thread Mieszko Kaczmarczyk
Uytkownik upscope napisa:
What I am trying to do is open the .docx document, and then save it as odt. 
This works fine is original doc is all text. But when graphics ixist in 
document and get relocated, missed etc, then its hard to get a proper 
document. It seems to work better in LO 3.6.3 than in LO 4.0.0.3.Similar 
problem when I try
to open ODT with graphics created in LO 3.4-3.6 or even with
OO2.And the reverse - the files created in LO4
with graphics cannot be opened in LO3.6 or M$-Word 2007 with ODT
plugin, which normally works OK.There have to be strange problem in LO4 
with
opening files with GFX..
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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread Mieszko Kaczmarczyk
Uytkownik Tom Davies napisa:
Perhaps install 3.6.3 alongside 4.0.0 or perhaps just stick with the more 
stable branch for a bit longer and try the 4.0.x a bit later?+1From my side the 
LO ver 4.0 is still to buggy and cannot be used
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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread Doug

On 02/20/2013 01:58 PM, upscope wrote:

On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:30:26 PM Doug wrote:

On 02/20/2013 11:53 AM, upscope wrote:

On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:45:19 AM Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
DocX is really bad for sharing with people unless you be be fairly
certain
they are using the same version of MS Office on the same version of
Windows.

The older MS format, Doc for 97/2000/Xp/2003 is still currently the best
format for sharing files.

/snip/

Finally, someone writes some sense.

The other day, I received a docx file to edit. LO opened the file, and
I edited it. I saved it in what LO thinks is docx. Then I discovered that
_even LO could not open the saved file!_  It could not even open the
file that it, itself, had created!

So _do not_ save a file from LO in docx format!

What version of LO are you using. I just saved a copy of the March newleter I
am getting ready (.odt) to .docx (2007 /2010 XML) and it can be saved and
opened again.But it does lose the document formatingg but all the graphics are
there and text is their. (Frames appear to be lost, but the text exis there)

Back to earlier suggested tests

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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread upscope
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:30:26 PM Doug wrote:
> On 02/20/2013 11:53 AM, upscope wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:45:19 AM Tom Davies wrote:
> >> Hi :)
> >> DocX is really bad for sharing with people unless you be be fairly
> >> certain
> >> they are using the same version of MS Office on the same version of
> >> Windows.
> >> 
> >> The older MS format, Doc for 97/2000/Xp/2003 is still currently the best
> >> format for sharing files.
> 
> /snip/
> 
> Finally, someone writes some sense.
> 
> The other day, I received a docx file to edit. LO opened the file, and
> I edited it. I saved it in what LO thinks is docx. Then I discovered that
> _even LO could not open the saved file!_  It could not even open the
> file that it, itself, had created!
> 
> So _do not_ save a file from LO in docx format!
What version of LO are you using. I just saved a copy of the March newleter I 
am getting ready (.odt) to .docx (2007 /2010 XML) and it can be saved and 
opened again.But it does lose the document formatingg but all the graphics are 
there and text is their. (Frames appear to be lost, but the text exis there)

Back to earlier suggested tests

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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There was some sort of add-on or something that allowed 2003 to open DocX
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/word-help/open-a-word-2007-document-in-an-earlier-version-of-word-HA010044473.aspx

Errr, that might be a bit old now.  It's for the MSO 2007 version of DocX.  
This link doesn't seem to specify which version of DocX it's for
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=3

Regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: upscope 
>To: Brian Barker ; "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
> 
>Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013, 17:51
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening 
>correctly
> 
>On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 05:03:36 PM Brian Barker wrote:
>> At 08:53 20/02/2013 -0800, you wrote:
>> >What I am trying to do is open the .docx document, and then save it as odt.
>> 
>> Can you get to a copy of Microsoft Word, even temporarily - perhaps
>> at work, at your educational establishment, at a library, in an
>> internet cafe, at a friend's, and so on?  If the material is not
>> confidential, perhaps you could e-mail it to a friend.  If so, you
>> could open .docx document files and re-save them as .doc files -
>> which LibreOffice could then open.  You could also take a screenshot
>> of the .docx version or export a PDF version (which later versions of
>> Microsoft Office will do natively).  You could retain this as a guide
>> to what the original document looked like and use it to guide you
>> when you were later editing the .doc in LibreOffice and saving it as .odt.
>> 
>> Would that work any better?
>> 
>> I trust this helps.
>> 
>> Brian Barker - privately
>Thanks. I'll send it to my wifes' Win 7 machine, it has office 2003 on it. 
>I personally have not used MS software since 1999. Been all Linux. Actually I 
>have XP on a virtual machine under my Linux but I have not been successful 
>updating .net on it past version 3.0. 3.5 and later fail on install, no real 
>error stated. I also only have MSoffice 2003. I refuse to pay MS what they 
>want for the capability I need. 
>
>Will office 2003 open a .docx, last I heard it would not. I have nothing that 
>will open the .docx unless I reinstall LO3.6.3, I think it opens them better 
>but still has problem. Will doing more experimenting with Tom's and your 
>ideas.
>
>thanks 
>
>Russ
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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread upscope
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 05:03:36 PM Brian Barker wrote:
> At 08:53 20/02/2013 -0800, you wrote:
> >What I am trying to do is open the .docx document, and then save it as odt.
> 
> Can you get to a copy of Microsoft Word, even temporarily - perhaps
> at work, at your educational establishment, at a library, in an
> internet cafe, at a friend's, and so on?  If the material is not
> confidential, perhaps you could e-mail it to a friend.  If so, you
> could open .docx document files and re-save them as .doc files -
> which LibreOffice could then open.  You could also take a screenshot
> of the .docx version or export a PDF version (which later versions of
> Microsoft Office will do natively).  You could retain this as a guide
> to what the original document looked like and use it to guide you
> when you were later editing the .doc in LibreOffice and saving it as .odt.
> 
> Would that work any better?
> 
> I trust this helps.
> 
> Brian Barker - privately
Thanks. I'll send it to my wifes's Win 7 machine, it has office 2003 on it. 
I personnaly have not used MS software since 1999. Been all Linux. Actually I 
have XP on a virtual machine under my Linux but I have not been sussesful 
updating .net on it past version 3.0. 3.5 and later fail on install, no real 
error stated. I also only have MSoffice 2003. I refuse to pay MS what they 
want for the capability I need. 

Will office 2003 open a .docx, last I heard it would not. I have nothing that 
will open the .docx unless I reinstall LO3.6.3, I think it opens them better 
but still has problem. Will doing more experimenting with Tom's and your 
ideas.

thanks 

Russ
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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread Doug

On 02/20/2013 11:53 AM, upscope wrote:

On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:45:19 AM Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
DocX is really bad for sharing with people unless you be be fairly certain
they are using the same version of MS Office on the same version of
Windows.

The older MS format, Doc for 97/2000/Xp/2003 is still currently the best
format for sharing files.



/snip/

Finally, someone writes some sense.

The other day, I received a docx file to edit. LO opened the file, and
I edited it. I saved it in what LO thinks is docx. Then I discovered that
_even LO could not open the saved file!_  It could not even open the
file that it, itself, had created!

So _do not_ save a file from LO in docx format!

--doug

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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Cool :) Thanks :)  So, time to post a bug-report?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport

The only advantage with docX is that, like Odt, you can rename the file-ending 
to zip and then dig out the pictures from the "images" folder.  It's a pain to 
get the images back into the right place but hopefully all this might get 
smoother in the future.  

Perhaps install 3.6.3 alongside 4.0.0 or perhaps just stick with the more 
stable branch for a bit longer and try the 4.0.x a bit later? 
Regards from
Tom :)  






>
> From: upscope 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013, 16:53
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening 
>correctly
> 
>On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:45:19 AM Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> DocX is really bad for sharing with people unless you be be fairly certain
>> they are using the same version of MS Office on the same version of
>> Windows. 
>> 
>> The older MS format, Doc for 97/2000/Xp/2003 is still currently the best
>> format for sharing files. 
>> 
>> Odt is becoming more widely used but the only version of MS Office that can
>> really handle it is MS Office 2013.  The 2007 and 2010 attempt to implement
>> Odf was a bit sub-optimal.  Regards from
>> Tom :)
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> > From: e-letter 
>> >
>> >To: upscope 
>> >Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> >Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013, 10:14
>> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening
>> >correctly>
>> >On 19/02/2013, upscope  wrote:
>> >> Both of the above LO versions have the problem. I can open a .docx
>> >> document
>> >> if
>> >> it is all text with no problems. If the document like a new letter I get
>> >> in
>> >> 
>> >> .docx format is opened the graphics are missing, or partically there or
>> >> off
>> >> 
>> >> set from where they should be.
>> >
>> >Tell the source to re-send in odt format, or use google docs to view.
>> >
>> >> I even created a new user and logged in as him, then using SUSE version
>> >> of
>> >> LO4.0.0.3 tried the same document with the same results. Also I just took
>> >> a
>> >> 
>> >> copy of a news letter I am getting ready to send out ( generated in .odf
>> >> format) and saved it as a .docx document. the formating was totally
>> >> messed
>> >> up
>> >> and graphics were messed up also (graphics in wrong place, text in wrong
>> >> place
>> >> probably caused by graphics being wrong, some graphics just plain blank
>> >> box,>
>> >Good. You should be sending the newsletter in odt format; most modern
>> >software can view it, otherwise pdf/html should be used.
>yes I am aware of compatibility problems. Typical MS. 
>
>What I am trying to do is open the .docx document, and then save it as odt. 
>This works fine is original doc is all text. But when graphics exist in 
>document and get relocated, missed etc, then its hard to get a proper 
>document. It seems to work better in LO 3.6.3 than in LO 4.0.0.3.
>
>Thanks
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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread upscope
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:45:19 AM Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> DocX is really bad for sharing with people unless you be be fairly certain
> they are using the same version of MS Office on the same version of
> Windows. 
> 
> The older MS format, Doc for 97/2000/Xp/2003 is still currently the best
> format for sharing files. 
> 
> Odt is becoming more widely used but the only version of MS Office that can
> really handle it is MS Office 2013.  The 2007 and 2010 attempt to implement
> Odf was a bit sub-optimal.  Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> >
> >
> > From: e-letter 
> >
> >To: upscope 
> >Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013, 10:14
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening
> >correctly>
> >On 19/02/2013, upscope  wrote:
> >> Both of the above LO versions have the problem. I can open a .docx
> >> document
> >> if
> >> it is all text with no problems. If the document like a new letter I get
> >> in
> >> 
> >> .docx format is opened the graphics are missing, or partically there or
> >> off
> >> 
> >> set from where they should be.
> >
> >Tell the source to re-send in odt format, or use google docs to view.
> >
> >> I even created a new user and logged in as him, then using SUSE version
> >> of
> >> LO4.0.0.3 tried the same document with the same results. Also I just took
> >> a
> >> 
> >> copy of a news letter I am getting ready to send out ( generated in .odf
> >> format) and saved it as a .docx document. the formating was totally
> >> messed
> >> up
> >> and graphics were messed up also (graphics in wrong place, text in wrong
> >> place
> >> probably caused by graphics being wrong, some graphics just plain blank
> >> box,>
> >Good. You should be sending the newsletter in odt format; most modern
> >software can view it, otherwise pdf/html should be used.
yes I am aware of compatibility problems. Typical MS. 

What I am trying to do is open the .docx document, and then save it as odt. 
This works fine is original doc is all text. But when graphics ixist in 
document and get relocated, missed etc, then its hard to get a proper 
document. It seems to work better in LO 3.6.3 than in LO 4.0.0.3.

Thanks
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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread upscope
On Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:14:21 PM e-letter wrote:
> On 19/02/2013, upscope  wrote:
> > Both of the above LO versions have the problem. I can open a .docx
> > document
> > if
> > it is all text with no problems. If the document like a new letter I get
> > in
> > 
> > .docx format is opened the graphics are missing, or partically there or
> > off
> > 
> > set from where they should be.
> 
> Tell the source to re-send in odt format, or use google docs to view.
Sources are multiple and all use Win 7 or 8 and versions of MSoffice. Not sure 
they can send a proper .odt document.
> > I even created a new user and logged in as him, then using SUSE version of
> > LO4.0.0.3 tried the same document with the same results. Also I just took
> Good. You should be sending the newsletter in odt format; most modern
> software can view it, otherwise pdf/html should be used.
news letter I send is usually sent as .pdf, so people do not have problem with 
them. Its the inbount newletters and other documents they send as .docx that 
are the problem. Most of the users send me data have no Idea how to convert a 
document of any type. They just use office in it default document type.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
DocX is really bad for sharing with people unless you be be fairly certain they 
are using the same version of MS Office on the same version of Windows.  

The older MS format, Doc for 97/2000/Xp/2003 is still currently the best format 
for sharing files.  

Odt is becoming more widely used but the only version of MS Office that can 
really handle it is MS Office 2013.  The 2007 and 2010 attempt to implement Odf 
was a bit sub-optimal.  
Regards from
Tom :) 





>
> From: e-letter 
>To: upscope  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013, 10:14
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening 
>correctly
> 
>On 19/02/2013, upscope  wrote:
>>
>> Both of the above LO versions have the problem. I can open a .docx document
>> if
>> it is all text with no problems. If the document like a new letter I get in
>>
>> .docx format is opened the graphics are missing, or partically there or off
>>
>> set from where they should be.
>>
>
>Tell the source to re-send in odt format, or use google docs to view.
>
>> I even created a new user and logged in as him, then using SUSE version of
>> LO4.0.0.3 tried the same document with the same results. Also I just took a
>>
>> copy of a news letter I am getting ready to send out ( generated in .odf
>> format) and saved it as a .docx document. the formating was totally messed
>> up
>> and graphics were messed up also (graphics in wrong place, text in wrong
>> place
>> probably caused by graphics being wrong, some graphics just plain blank box,
>>
>
>Good. You should be sending the newsletter in odt format; most modern
>software can view it, otherwise pdf/html should be used.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-20 Thread e-letter
On 19/02/2013, upscope  wrote:
>
> Both of the above LO versions have the problem. I can open a .docx document
> if
> it is all text with no problems. If the document like a new letter I get in
>
> .docx format is opened the graphics are missing, or partically there or off
>
> set from where they should be.
>

Tell the source to re-send in odt format, or use google docs to view.

> I even created a new user and logged in as him, then using SUSE version of
> LO4.0.0.3 tried the same document with the same results. Also I just took a
>
> copy of a news letter I am getting ready to send out ( generated in .odf
> format) and saved it as a .docx document. the formating was totally messed
> up
> and graphics were messed up also (graphics in wrong place, text in wrong
> place
> probably caused by graphics being wrong, some graphics just plain blank box,
>

Good. You should be sending the newsletter in odt format; most modern
software can view it, otherwise pdf/html should be used.

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[libreoffice-users] .docx documents with graphic, not opening correctly

2013-02-18 Thread upscope
LibreOffice: Version 4.0.0.3 (Build ID: 400m0(Build:103)) released by SUSE
LibreOffice: Version 4.0.0.3 (Build ID: 
7545bee9c2a0782548772a21bc84a9dcc583b89) releases by TDF.

I have both versions above installed. see signature for OS and KDE versions, 
both with latest updates.

Both of the above LO versions have the problem. I can open a .docx document if 
it is all text with no problems. If the document like a new letter I get in 
.docx format is opened the graphics are missing, or partically there or off 
set from where they should be.

I even created a new user and logged in as him, then using SUSE version of 
LO4.0.0.3 tried the same document with the same results. Also I just took a 
copy of a news letter I am getting ready to send out ( generated in .odf 
format) and saved it as a .docx document. the formating was totally messed up 
and graphics were messed up also (graphics in wrong place, text in wrong place 
probably caused by graphics being wrong, some graphics just plain blank box, 
etc.

On 3.6.x versions of Lo I did not have this problem.

Before I report this as a bug I am wondering if anyone else is having this 
problem? 

Please let me know what else I can provide?

Thanks 
Russ
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