Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-18 Thread Andrew Brown

Dave

Actually outgoing mail is scanned, by your service provider. This is 
mandatory as to avoid their range of IP addresses being blacklisted. 
Some SP's have a less strict scanning and blocking policy, which then 
passes onto multiple transports servers to the receivers SP, who might 
use a stricter policy and they then block and submit the IP for 
blacklisting.


This is how many spam and maliciousware servers are discovered and shut 
down, from their sending content.


Regards

Andrew Brown

On 17/08/2013 11:49 PM, Dave Liesse wrote:
That would be correct.  It's the incoming mail that's scanned, not the 
outgoing -- and too many spam checkers look only at the IP address.  
It doesn't matter if there are 4000 users on your shared, hosted 
server; as far as they're concerned if one's guilty, all are guilty, 
as if we have any say over who else shares the server.


Dave

On 8/17/2013 12:41, James Knott wrote:

Mark's Google A/c wrote:

I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the
mailing list over the last few weeks.

After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything
wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other
people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?

Mark Stanton




I occasionally get bounced mail from the different lists I'm on.  It's
usually the recipient that has the problem.







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread Dave Liesse
That would be correct.  It's the incoming mail that's scanned, not the 
outgoing -- and too many spam checkers look only at the IP address.  It 
doesn't matter if there are 4000 users on your shared, hosted server; as 
far as they're concerned if one's guilty, all are guilty, as if we have 
any say over who else shares the server.


Dave

On 8/17/2013 12:41, James Knott wrote:

Mark's Google A/c wrote:

I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the
mailing list over the last few weeks.

After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything
wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other
people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?

Mark Stanton




I occasionally get bounced mail from the different lists I'm on.  It's
usually the recipient that has the problem.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread James Knott
Mark's Google A/c wrote:
> I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the 
> mailing list over the last few weeks.
>
> After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything 
> wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other 
> people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?
>
> Mark Stanton
>
>
>

I occasionally get bounced mail from the different lists I'm on.  It's
usually the recipient that has the problem.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread Thomas Taylor
On Sat, 17 Aug 2013 11:00:22 +0100 (BST)
Tom Davies  wrote:

> Hi :)
> For some reason this post got blocked and had to be rescued by the
> moderators.  I'm not sure what is going on and my email client doesn't make
> it easy to read much in the headers to find out.
> 
> I've not seen many other messages from Mark in the list of blocked messages.  
> Apols and regards from 
> Tom :)  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > From: Mark's Google A/c 
> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
> >Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 10:44
> >Subject: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail
> > 
> >
> >I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the 
> >mailing list over the last few weeks.
> >
> >After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything 
> >wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other 
> >people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?
> >
> >Mark Stanton
> >
> >
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Looking at the headers from the OP the message was re-routed 9 times.  It might
have been blocked at any point in that list and tracing it would be very
difficult.

My first suggestion would be to try one of the "free" internet providers
(gmail, hotmail, etc.)to see if the message was still being blocked.

Tom

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster


It happened to me when one of my email hosting company's black listing 
services "lists" decided that the IP address of one of LO's servers was 
to be blacklisted.  The IP address was blacklisted for a user 10 years 
before LO "bought" the IP address for the server.


It could be that your email client picked up something similar. If one 
of their lists shows that one of LO's IP addresses should be blacklisted 
based upon previous "users" of that address, then most of your emails to 
the list will not get through.  Also your service can reject receiving 
emails from our servers as well.


You might want to contact your service and see if any IP addresses in 
your headers are in one their black lists they use.  Maybe they can add 
LO back in a white list.




On 08/17/2013 06:00 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
For some reason this post got blocked and had to be rescued by the moderators.  
I'm not sure what is going on and my email client doesn't make it easy to read 
much in the headers to find out.

I've not seen many other messages from Mark in the list of blocked messages.
Apols and regards from
Tom :)







From: Mark's Google A/c 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 10:44
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail


I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the
mailing list over the last few weeks.

After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything
wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other
people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?

Mark Stanton



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
For some reason this post got blocked and had to be rescued by the moderators.  
I'm not sure what is going on and my email client doesn't make it easy to read 
much in the headers to find out.

I've not seen many other messages from Mark in the list of blocked messages.  
Apols and regards from 
Tom :)  





>
> From: Mark's Google A/c 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Saturday, 17 August 2013, 10:44
>Subject: [libreoffice-users] Failed mail
> 
>
>I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the 
>mailing list over the last few weeks.
>
>After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything 
>wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other 
>people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?
>
>Mark Stanton
>
>
>
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[libreoffice-users] Failed mail

2013-08-17 Thread Mark's Google A/c
I've been getting a *lot* of failed mail notifications from the 
mailing list over the last few weeks.

After extensive investigation, there doesn't appear to be anything 
wrong with my mailbox or mail servers, so I'm curious, how many other 
people get this, either frequently or occasionally?  Is it just me?

Mark Stanton



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