Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-24 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
So, a good oppotunity to get ahead of the game then.  I guess there are add-on 
packages or something for MS Office that might not be so easy to find as our 
extensions website?  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Sun, 23/10/11, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com wrote:

 From: Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 23 October, 2011, 14:56
 At 09:36 23/10/2011 -0400, Alberto
 Sanchez wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Regina Henschel
 rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:
  Alberto Sanchez schrieb:
  I'm a finance major so I use excel a lot, but
 I don't have the money for it so I use calc.  I see
 that there's is a lot of financial formulas that are missing
 but that excel has, so my question is, how can I add that
 function so that many others in my position can benefit from
 them?
  
  I don't believe that there are a lot of financial
 formula that Excel has but Calc not, please name them. If
 they are listed in ODF1.2, they should be added to the
 core.
  
  I will name them, the ones on my mind now is PVIF and
 FVIF. they are quite easy. I would also add ones that are
 not in excel but we could beat excel at that. we could have
 the most comprehensive group of formulas and functions.
 
 For what it's worth, these two functions do not appear to
 exist in Excel, in fact.  At least, as evidenced by
 their web site, Microsoft seem to have no knowledge of
 them!
 
 Brian Barker
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-23 Thread Stefan Weigel
Hi,

Am 23.10.2011 04:35, schrieb Alberto Sanchez:

 Is there a way that the community can benefit from this?

 so my question is, how can I add that function
 so that many others in my position can benefit from them?

Make an Extension and put into the Extensions Repository.

http://www.libreoffice.org/features/extensions/
http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/

If you do not know how to create an extension and if you do not want
to learn it (which isn´t difficult), you could post the Code and a
description of your new function and hope that some other old man
will pick it up and create and publish it as an extension.

Stefan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-23 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Alberto,

Alberto Sanchez schrieb:

Hi all,
I'm a finance major so I use excel a lot, but I don't have the money for it
so I use calc.  I see that there's is a lot of financial formulas that are
missing but that excel has, so my question is, how can I add that function
so that many others in my position can benefit from them?



I don't believe that there are a lot of financial formula that Excel 
has but Calc not, please name them. If they are listed in ODF1.2, they 
should be added to the core.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-23 Thread Alberto Sanchez
I will name them, the ones on my mind now is PVIF and FVIF. they are quite
easy. I would also add ones that are not in excel but we could beat excel at
that. we could have the most comprehensive group of formulas and functions.

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:

 Hi Alberto,

 Alberto Sanchez schrieb:

  Hi all,
 I'm a finance major so I use excel a lot, but I don't have the money for
 it
 so I use calc.  I see that there's is a lot of financial formulas that are
 missing but that excel has, so my question is, how can I add that function
 so that many others in my position can benefit from them?


 I don't believe that there are a lot of financial formula that Excel has
 but Calc not, please name them. If they are listed in ODF1.2, they should be
 added to the core.

 Kind regards
 Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-23 Thread Brian Barker

At 09:36 23/10/2011 -0400, Alberto Sanchez wrote:
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Regina Henschel 
rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:

Alberto Sanchez schrieb:
I'm a finance major so I use excel a lot, but I don't have the 
money for it so I use calc.  I see that there's is a lot of 
financial formulas that are missing but that excel has, so my 
question is, how can I add that function so that many others in my 
position can benefit from them?


I don't believe that there are a lot of financial formula that 
Excel has but Calc not, please name them. If they are listed in 
ODF1.2, they should be added to the core.


I will name them, the ones on my mind now is PVIF and FVIF. they are 
quite easy. I would also add ones that are not in excel but we could 
beat excel at that. we could have the most comprehensive group of 
formulas and functions.


For what it's worth, these two functions do not appear to exist in 
Excel, in fact.  At least, as evidenced by their web site, Microsoft 
seem to have no knowledge of them!


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-23 Thread Alberto Sanchez
The long name is Present Value Interest Factor and Future Value Interest
Factor. but apparently it was a add-in or something cause I remember it was
=pvif(i,n) being i the interest and n the periods compounding.

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.comwrote:

 At 09:36 23/10/2011 -0400, Alberto Sanchez wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Regina Henschel rb.hensc...@t-online.de
 **wrote:

 Alberto Sanchez schrieb:

  I'm a finance major so I use excel a lot, but I don't have the money for
 it so I use calc.  I see that there's is a lot of financial formulas that
 are missing but that excel has, so my question is, how can I add that
 function so that many others in my position can benefit from them?


 I don't believe that there are a lot of financial formula that Excel
 has but Calc not, please name them. If they are listed in ODF1.2, they
 should be added to the core.


 I will name them, the ones on my mind now is PVIF and FVIF. they are quite
 easy. I would also add ones that are not in excel but we could beat excel at
 that. we could have the most comprehensive group of formulas and functions.


 For what it's worth, these two functions do not appear to exist in Excel,
 in fact.  At least, as evidenced by their web site, Microsoft seem to have
 no knowledge of them!

 Brian Barker



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Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-23 Thread Alberto Sanchez
well then, being that there's a lot of financial formulas we can make a
extension of them.  I'm not a programmer, but I can say which are the most
used and how they are used, so that we as a community can beat excel at
formulas. If theres someone willing to help the cause I am available.

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Alberto Sanchez 
alberto.sanchez3...@gmail.com wrote:

 The long name is Present Value Interest Factor and Future Value Interest
 Factor. but apparently it was a add-in or something cause I remember it was
 =pvif(i,n) being i the interest and n the periods compounding.


 On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 9:56 AM, Brian Barker 
 b.m.bar...@btinternet.comwrote:

 At 09:36 23/10/2011 -0400, Alberto Sanchez wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Regina Henschel 
 rb.hensc...@t-online.de**wrote:

 Alberto Sanchez schrieb:

  I'm a finance major so I use excel a lot, but I don't have the money
 for it so I use calc.  I see that there's is a lot of financial formulas
 that are missing but that excel has, so my question is, how can I add that
 function so that many others in my position can benefit from them?


 I don't believe that there are a lot of financial formula that Excel
 has but Calc not, please name them. If they are listed in ODF1.2, they
 should be added to the core.


 I will name them, the ones on my mind now is PVIF and FVIF. they are
 quite easy. I would also add ones that are not in excel but we could beat
 excel at that. we could have the most comprehensive group of formulas and
 functions.


 For what it's worth, these two functions do not appear to exist in Excel,
 in fact.  At least, as evidenced by their web site, Microsoft seem to have
 no knowledge of them!

 Brian Barker



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Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-23 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Alberto,

Alberto Sanchez schrieb:

The long name is Present Value Interest Factor and Future Value Interest
Factor. but apparently it was a add-in or something cause I remember it was
=pvif(i,n) being i the interest and n the periods compounding.


PVIF(i;n) should equal 1/(1+i)^n
and
FVIF(i;n) should equal (1+i)^n

Or do I understand them wrong?

Why do you need functions for them? So I'm really interested in what 
functions do you miss. I guess, that there already exist equivalent 
solutions.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-23 Thread Alberto Sanchez
that's the right formula. those were easy one, but I accepted that I may
have been wrong, I saw those formulas on excel but maybe it was an
extension, cause it did work as a function.  My interest now is just adding
formulas like these ones to the suite.

On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Regina Henschel
rb.hensc...@t-online.dewrote:

 Hi Alberto,

 Alberto Sanchez schrieb:

 The long name is Present Value Interest Factor and Future Value Interest

 Factor. but apparently it was a add-in or something cause I remember it
 was
 =pvif(i,n) being i the interest and n the periods compounding.


 PVIF(i;n) should equal 1/(1+i)^n
 and
 FVIF(i;n) should equal (1+i)^n

 Or do I understand them wrong?

 Why do you need functions for them? So I'm really interested in what
 functions do you miss. I guess, that there already exist equivalent
 solutions.

 Kind regards
 Regina


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RE: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There should be care in naming extensions and avoiding collisions with 
OpenFormula and other extensions (implementation- or user-defined).

It might be good to review the specification of OpenFormula in ODF 1.2 for all 
of the functions defined there.  There may be OpenFormula functions of interest 
that are not yet implemented in LibreOffice Calc and it would, in those cases, 
be useful to implement them as part of the full set.

Also, there needs to be agreement on how extensions not provided for in ODF are 
identified.  I recommend against using org.openoffice simply because there 
would need to be some sort of joint arrangement to manage that as a shared 
namespace.  Not a bad idea, but absent that it might be useful that one use a 
unique name prefix for LO-defined extensions (as opposed to user-defined 
functions).

This is all to avoid collision of names among implementations when LibreOffice 
Calc documents are interchanged with other ODF-supporting spreadsheet 
implementations. For user-defined extensions, one might want to have a naming 
policy so those extensions don't collide as well.


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-Original Message-
From: Stefan Weigel [mailto:stefan.wei...@bildungskreis.org] 
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2011 23:10
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

Hi,

Am 23.10.2011 04:35, schrieb Alberto Sanchez:

 Is there a way that the community can benefit from this?

 so my question is, how can I add that function
 so that many others in my position can benefit from them?

Make an Extension and put into the Extensions Repository.

http://www.libreoffice.org/features/extensions/
http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/

If you do not know how to create an extension and if you do not want
to learn it (which isn´t difficult), you could post the Code and a
description of your new function and hope that some other old man
will pick it up and create and publish it as an extension.

Stefan


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[libreoffice-users] I want to add formulas and functions to calc

2011-10-22 Thread Alberto Sanchez
Hi all,
I'm a finance major so I use excel a lot, but I don't have the money for it
so I use calc.  I see that there's is a lot of financial formulas that are
missing but that excel has, so my question is, how can I add that function
so that many others in my position can benefit from them?

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