Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer - Strange behavior of paragraph styles
Thank you, Miroslaw, for your explanation. I had not encountered the "cascade" behavior in this fashion in OOo; there, I had always used "Default" as the primary style; based on that I had then configured all other styles without any quirks at all. It is only after I started working with LO Writer that I met up with the 'strange' response of paragraphs to the Default style. Your explanation cleared things up and now, with Text Body as the basic style, the problems have seemingly disappeared. At this point, my only question is: what caused the designers of the Writer code to change the modus operandi? Thanks again for your clarification. john __ On 02/02/2012 at 05:23, "John D. Herron" wrote: As an aside: can anyone tell me what difference there is between 'Default' and 'Text body'? On 02/02/2012 01:54 PM, Mirosław Zalewski wrote As Cor pointed out (in rather harsh way, if you ask me), probably you did not read documentation carefully enough. Styles are hierarchical (in web-world it's called "cascade"). You may open new document in Writer, press F11 and set "Hierarchical" from drop-down list at the bottom of new window. You will see that all styles in entire document are child of "Default" style. In other words, changes made in Default style will be present in all other styles. Changes in that style should be keep to minimum - ideally, you should change only font family and size there. You should *not* apply Default style directly to any paragraph. For your main text you should use "Text body" style. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer - Strange behavior of paragraph styles
On 02/02/2012 at 05:23, "John D. Herron" wrote: > As an aside: can anyone tell me what difference there is between > 'Default' and 'Text body'? As Cor pointed out (in rather harsh way, if you ask me), probably you did not read documentation carefully enough. Styles are hierarchical (in web-world it's called "cascade"). You may open new document in Writer, press F11 and set "Hierarchical" from drop-down list at the bottom of new window. You will see that all styles in entire document are child of "Default" style. In other words, changes made in Default style will be present in all other styles. Changes in that style should be keep to minimum - ideally, you should change only font family and size there. You should *not* apply Default style directly to any paragraph. For your main text you should use "Text body" style. Although I find behavior of your LO rather odd, I would recommend you to use "Text body" as default style for paragraphs in your document. This is what you should do in the first place. Hopefully it will solve your problem as well. BTW, I have never encountered a problem like this in any LO or OOo version, so it is possible that these packages you did install are simply broken. You should try to rename your ~/.libreoffice (and ~/.openoffice!) as well, as Tom advises. -- Best regards Mirosław Zalewski -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer - Strange behavior of paragraph styles
Hi :) It sounds like it's going completely crazy. Have you tried renaming your user-profile to see if it's some weird settings? http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile Is it a new fresh install of LibreOffice? Which Operating System or platform; ie Windows, Ubuntu, soem other Gnu&Linux, Mac or Bsd? Which version of LO, 3.5.0 perhaps? Has your machine got any strange usb-dongles plugged in by some joker work-mate? Retrevo or somewhere was advertising a usb-dongle that could be set to do crazy stuff at timed or 'random' intervals. It beats chattering teeth or a whoppee cushion i guess. We have not heard of other people having this problem but that doesn't mean it's not happening to other people so it would be great if we could work out how to fix it quickly. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, John D. Herron wrote: From: John D. Herron Subject: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer - Strange behavior of paragraph styles To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 4:23 Hi, everyone. Running LO 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (Build:302) on Ubuntu 11.04 (Linux 2.6.38-generic-pae) w/ Gnome 2.32.1. Find myself having to cope with some very strange behavior of paragraph styles, not previously encountered in any version of OOo. I defined my 'Default' style as follows: font Ubuntu 12 regular, no indents, single spacing, 0.00" before and after, justified. As I begin a new document and type a one-line paragraph, then press Return to start a new paragraph, all is OK. If I press Return once more (adding an empty line), the previous paragraph gets indented without any prompting! When I go back to the previous paragraph with "ArrowUp", the style changes - without any prompting! - to Text Body... If I go back to the beginning of any Default or Text Body paragraph and press Return twice, the paragraph is transformed into text that is both bold and increased in size... All of this, though, merely scratches the surface of my paragraph-style misadventures in LO. It's enough to drive me insane, to the point where I'm seriously considering returning to one of the recent versions of OpenOffice. FWIW i DID carefully read the manual on styles and templates. Like I said: no problems in OOo, a disaster in LO. As an aside: can anyone tell me what difference there is between 'Default' and 'Text body'? Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to correct / troubleshoot this? Thanks in advance. john -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer - Strange behavior of paragraph styles
Hi :) Hopefully not much. I try to use one for text i want normal but centred or something wacky like that and the other as my main one for normal text. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 2/2/12, Cor Nouws wrote: From: Cor Nouws Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer - Strange behavior of paragraph styles To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 2 February, 2012, 6:48 John D. Herron wrote (02-02-12 05:23) > [...] > FWIW i DID carefully read the manual on styles and templates. > [...] > As an aside: can anyone tell me what difference there is between > 'Default' and 'Text body'? :-D -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Writer - Strange behavior of paragraph styles
John D. Herron wrote (02-02-12 05:23) [...] FWIW i DID carefully read the manual on styles and templates. [...] As an aside: can anyone tell me what difference there is between 'Default' and 'Text body'? :-D -- - Cor - http://nl.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] LO Writer - Strange behavior of paragraph styles
Hi, everyone. Running LO 3.4.3 OOO340m1 (Build:302) on Ubuntu 11.04 (Linux 2.6.38-generic-pae) w/ Gnome 2.32.1. Find myself having to cope with some very strange behavior of paragraph styles, not previously encountered in any version of OOo. I defined my 'Default' style as follows: font Ubuntu 12 regular, no indents, single spacing, 0.00" before and after, justified. As I begin a new document and type a one-line paragraph, then press Return to start a new paragraph, all is OK. If I press Return once more (adding an empty line), the previous paragraph gets indented without any prompting! When I go back to the previous paragraph with "ArrowUp", the style changes - without any prompting! - to Text Body... If I go back to the beginning of any Default or Text Body paragraph and press Return twice, the paragraph is transformed into text that is both bold and increased in size... All of this, though, merely scratches the surface of my paragraph-style misadventures in LO. It's enough to drive me insane, to the point where I'm seriously considering returning to one of the recent versions of OpenOffice. FWIW i DID carefully read the manual on styles and templates. Like I said: no problems in OOo, a disaster in LO. As an aside: can anyone tell me what difference there is between 'Default' and 'Text body'? Can anyone offer any suggestions on how to correct / troubleshoot this? Thanks in advance. john -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
