Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

2011-08-09 Thread Mårten Behm
Today could reproduce the problem in Win7 running in Virtualbox on a Mac. As
recommended I have produced two screenshots and a pdf file that can be
downloaded at http://db.tt/klaLw5R.

The first screenshot is in the normal editing view and the second one is in
the slide show mode. As you see the compressed subscript the also survives
into the pdf file.

Please tell me if I you think I should file a bug report, or if it should be
handled in a different way.

Best regards,

Mårten

2011/8/6 Ilja Gerhardt i...@cryptix.de

 I observe a similar behavior in LO 3.4.? under Ubuntu Linux. I am also
 coming from the Chemistry perspective here. It seems to be better now.

 I basically work with one font (Gill Sans) and had the feeling that it
 might be better with different fonts (Arial). A workaround here would be
 to align the positions and shrinking by hand - i.e. adjust the
 parameters for position and shrinking..

 Cheers

  Ilja


 On 08/01/2011 12:54 PM, Mårten Behm wrote:
  I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
  in chemical formulae is a crucial feature. I keep getting the subscripts
  with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
  problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
  to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX
 10.6.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

2011-08-06 Thread Ilja Gerhardt
I observe a similar behavior in LO 3.4.? under Ubuntu Linux. I am also
coming from the Chemistry perspective here. It seems to be better now.

I basically work with one font (Gill Sans) and had the feeling that it
might be better with different fonts (Arial). A workaround here would be
to align the positions and shrinking by hand - i.e. adjust the
parameters for position and shrinking..

Cheers

  Ilja


On 08/01/2011 12:54 PM, Mårten Behm wrote:
 I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
 in chemical formulae is a crucial feature. I keep getting the subscripts
 with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
 problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
 to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

2011-08-03 Thread Nuno J. Silva
On 2011-08-02, Mårten Behm wrote:
 On 2011-08-01, Regina Henschel wrote:
 Mårten Behm schrieb:

 I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
 in chemical formulae is a crucial feature.
[...]
  I keep getting the subscripts
 with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
 problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
 to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.

 Is there anyone else experiencing this? Is it a well known problem? Is
 there a solution?

 No I have no problems with subscripts in presentation object or text
 object. In which objects do you see the problem? Do you see it with
 every font?
 Can you move the document to a Windows-machine and look whether the
 problem occurs there too? Or provide such document for download?
[...]
 In preparing the requested sample on my Mac machine the problem first
 appeared as previously described, but after a while I noticed, to my
 surprise, that the subscripts have shifted back to normal appearance!
 So the problem is not entirely reproducible. I will get back to the
 list if / when the problem reappears. Just setting up LibO on a
 Windows virtual machine on my Mac to check further.

My guess is that this is some on-screen rendering issue (that is, the
presentation content and appearance is okay, it just doesn't appear as
it should). getting back to normal sounds like a rendering issue. 

Can you try exporting the presentation to PDF and see if the problem
persists?

Unless PDF export and rendering are closely tied, if this is a rendering
issue, it will not happen in the PDF.


You can, like Regina suggested, make the document available so we can
test it. 

(Just a note: this list strips attachments, so upload it somewhere else
and just give us the URL; you can also report this as a bug and attach
the document to the bug).

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

2011-08-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Or you could upload it to Image Shack or Ubuntu One or something and give 
just a couple of people the link to it by personal email rather than to the 
entire list (if the document is fairly confidential).
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Nuno J. Silva nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 3 August, 2011 9:59:10
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

On 2011-08-02, Mårten Behm wrote:
 On 2011-08-01, Regina Henschel wrote:
 Mårten Behm schrieb:

 I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
 in chemical formulae is a crucial feature.
[...]
  I keep getting the subscripts
 with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
 problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
 to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.

 Is there anyone else experiencing this? Is it a well known problem? Is
 there a solution?

 No I have no problems with subscripts in presentation object or text
 object. In which objects do you see the problem? Do you see it with
 every font?
 Can you move the document to a Windows-machine and look whether the
 problem occurs there too? Or provide such document for download?
[...]
 In preparing the requested sample on my Mac machine the problem first
 appeared as previously described, but after a while I noticed, to my
 surprise, that the subscripts have shifted back to normal appearance!
 So the problem is not entirely reproducible. I will get back to the
 list if / when the problem reappears. Just setting up LibO on a
 Windows virtual machine on my Mac to check further.

My guess is that this is some on-screen rendering issue (that is, the
presentation content and appearance is okay, it just doesn't appear as
it should). getting back to normal sounds like a rendering issue. 

Can you try exporting the presentation to PDF and see if the problem
persists?

Unless PDF export and rendering are closely tied, if this is a rendering
issue, it will not happen in the PDF.


You can, like Regina suggested, make the document available so we can
test it. 

(Just a note: this list strips attachments, so upload it somewhere else
and just give us the URL; you can also report this as a bug and attach
the document to the bug).

-- 
Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)
gopher://sdf-eu.org/1/users/njsg

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

2011-08-02 Thread Mårten Behm

Mårten Behm schrieb:
I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
in chemical formulae is a crucial feature.

Have you tried to use a Math-object for your chemical formulas?

You cannot insert it into a presentation object or a text object. But I use it 
the other way round and include the necessary text into the Math-object. 

I keep getting the subscripts
with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.

Is there anyone else experiencing this? Is it a well known problem? Is
there a solution?

No I have no problems with subscripts in presentation object or text object. 
In which objects do you see the problem? Do you see it with every font? 
Can you move the document to a Windows-machine and look whether the problem 
occurs there too? Or provide such document for download? 

Kind regards
Regina

Thank you for the reply, Regina. 

The Math object method is sometimes useful for me, but not always. 

In preparing the requested sample on my Mac machine the problem first appeared 
as previously described, but after a while I noticed, to my surprise, that the 
subscripts have shifted back to normal appearance! So the problem is not 
entirely reproducible. I will get back to the list if / when the problem 
reappears. Just setting up LibO on a Windows virtual machine on my Mac to check 
further.

Best regards,

Mårten
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

2011-08-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Have you tried NeoOffice for Mac?  Also which version of LibreOffice are you 
using?  The 3.3.3 should be the best but the ultra new 3.4.2 is worth trying.

To install more than one version of OOo, LO or NeoOffice this guide might help
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel
to prevent them clashing

Good luck and regards from
Tom :)





From: Mårten Behm marten.b...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Mon, 1 August, 2011 20:54:39
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts in 
chemical formulae is a crucial feature. I keep getting the subscripts with a 
horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the problem on and 
off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE to Fedora with LXDE 
avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.

Is there anyone else experiencing this? Is it a well known problem? Is there a 
solution?

I would be happy to provide screenshots and more details if needed.

It's becoming a bit of a deal breaker for me regarding LibreOffice, but I 
really 
don't want to go back to MS Office.

Best regards,

Mårten

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Problem with subscript in Impress

2011-08-01 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Mårten,

Mårten Behm schrieb:

I am using Impress for lecturing in chemical engineering and subscripts
in chemical formulae is a crucial feature.


Have you tried to use a Math-object for your chemical formulas?

You cannot insert it into a presentation object or a text object. But I 
use it the other way round and include the necessary text into the 
Math-object.


 I keep getting the subscripts

with a horisontally compressed appearance (about 50%). I have had the
problem on and off since the OOo days. Switching from Ubuntu with LXDE
to Fedora with LXDE avoided it, but now I keep getting it in Mac OSX 10.6.

Is there anyone else experiencing this? Is it a well known problem? Is
there a solution?


No I have no problems with subscripts in presentation object or text 
object. In which objects do you see the problem? Do you see it with 
every font?
Can you move the document to a Windows-machine and look whether the 
problem occurs there too? Or provide such document for download?


Kind regards
Regina


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