Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis
On 1/25/2013 4:34 PM, Simos Xenitellis wrote: ... Hi Regina, Indeed, the ASF holds now the "OpenOffice.org" trademark in the US. The issue is about the "OpenOffice" trademark (without the ".org" part), which for the US it is reserved by someone else, http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4002:4o6qwv.2.1 If there is such a trademark search website for Europe, then you will find that the "OpenOffice" trademark is also taken in Europe by someone else, and also in Brazil (that's why the Brazilian team selected "BrOffice"). That's why we do not use "OpenOffice" by itself. Simos My trademark search says that open office and openoffice both have dead trademark applications and thus are available to be trademarked. -- Bill Drescher william {at} TechServSys {dot} com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Simons, > > Simos Xenitellis schrieb: > [..] > >> The trademark for "OpenOffice" belongs to some other company, not >> related to any of these. Whoever has the trademark for "OpenOffice", >> had that trademark well before the year 2000 (when "OpenOffice.org" >> was trademarked). >> The trademark to "OpenOffice.org" is probably with Oracle, but it is >> not in use as it refers to the old defunct project. > > > Search in "Trademark Electronic Search System" (US): > The current owner of the word and picture trademark "OpenOffice.org" is The > Apache Software Foundation. > The current owner of the trademark "StarOffice" is still Oracle. > > The trademark "OpenOffice.org" is still in use. You can download the > software in the versions 3.2.1 and 3.3 from > http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/. You can > download older versions from the archive at > http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/stable/ > Hi Regina, Indeed, the ASF holds now the "OpenOffice.org" trademark in the US. The issue is about the "OpenOffice" trademark (without the ".org" part), which for the US it is reserved by someone else, http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4002:4o6qwv.2.1 If there is such a trademark search website for Europe, then you will find that the "OpenOffice" trademark is also taken in Europe by someone else, and also in Brazil (that's why the Brazilian team selected "BrOffice"). That's why we do not use "OpenOffice" by itself. Simos -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis
Hi Simons, Simos Xenitellis schrieb: [..] The trademark for "OpenOffice" belongs to some other company, not related to any of these. Whoever has the trademark for "OpenOffice", had that trademark well before the year 2000 (when "OpenOffice.org" was trademarked). The trademark to "OpenOffice.org" is probably with Oracle, but it is not in use as it refers to the old defunct project. Search in "Trademark Electronic Search System" (US): The current owner of the word and picture trademark "OpenOffice.org" is The Apache Software Foundation. The current owner of the trademark "StarOffice" is still Oracle. The trademark "OpenOffice.org" is still in use. You can download the software in the versions 3.2.1 and 3.3 from http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/stable/. You can download older versions from the archive at http://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/stable/ Kind regards Regina -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis
Hi Simos, Am 2013-01-25 16:34, schrieb Simos Xenitellis: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:14 PM, wrote: Hi Simos, Am 2013-01-25 16:07, schrieb Simos Xenitellis: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM, wrote: Hi Simos, yes, you are right! But, OpenOffice.org is past. The projects name now is Apache OpenOffice. With the "abbreviation" OpenOffice I refer to the former OpenOffice.org and to Apache OpenOffice. I hope you will accept this abbreviation. If you are doing academic work, you should use the proper names. The reason that 'OpenOffice' was not selected ten years ago was because some other company in Europe had already registered the name 'OpenOffice'. Not entirely correct. It was an american enterprise that has grabed the rights for this name. OpenOffice.org is now in the hands of Oracle and that will not spit it out. ;-( The trademark for "OpenOffice" belongs to some other company, not related to any of these. Whoever has the trademark for "OpenOffice", had that trademark well before the year 2000 (when "OpenOffice.org" was trademarked). The trademark to "OpenOffice.org" is probably with Oracle, but it is not in use as it refers to the old defunct project. If you use "OpenOffice" for these office suites, then you are using an informal term. Most likely it will not look good in your Master thesis to have an informal term. But then that is up to you and your school. Of course I will not use this informal name in my Master Thesis. I just had used it for abbreviation. But if this will cause so much trouble I will use the correct terms in future. regards Veit Simos regards Veit Simos Am 2013-01-25 15:52, schrieb Simos Xenitellis: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM, wrote: Hi all, my name is Veit. I had studied Free Software at Free Technology Academy (ftacademy.org) and Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC.edu). Now, after I had finished all my courses, I will write my Master Thesis. This will be a case study about the office suites OpenOffice and LibreOffice. There used to be a project 'OpenOffice.org' which is now defunct. Out of that project, we now have 'LibreOffice' and 'Apache OpenOffice', and possibly others. Sadly, www.openoffice.org does not reflect this situation. Sorry for hijacking. Simos -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:14 PM, wrote: > Hi Simos, > > Am 2013-01-25 16:07, schrieb Simos Xenitellis: > >> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM, wrote: >>> >>> Hi Simos, >>> yes, you are right! >>> But, OpenOffice.org is past. >>> The projects name now is Apache OpenOffice. >>> >>> With the "abbreviation" OpenOffice I refer to the former OpenOffice.org >>> and >>> to Apache OpenOffice. >>> I hope you will accept this abbreviation. >>> >> >> If you are doing academic work, you should use the proper names. >> The reason that 'OpenOffice' was not selected ten years ago was >> because some other company in Europe had already registered the name >> 'OpenOffice'. > > > Not entirely correct. > It was an american enterprise that has grabed the rights for this name. > OpenOffice.org is now in the hands of Oracle and that will not spit it out. > ;-( > The trademark for "OpenOffice" belongs to some other company, not related to any of these. Whoever has the trademark for "OpenOffice", had that trademark well before the year 2000 (when "OpenOffice.org" was trademarked). The trademark to "OpenOffice.org" is probably with Oracle, but it is not in use as it refers to the old defunct project. If you use "OpenOffice" for these office suites, then you are using an informal term. Most likely it will not look good in your Master thesis to have an informal term. But then that is up to you and your school. Simos > regards > Veit > > > > > >> >> Simos >> >>> >>> Am 2013-01-25 15:52, schrieb Simos Xenitellis: >>> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM, wrote: > > > Hi all, > my name is Veit. > I had studied Free Software at Free Technology Academy (ftacademy.org) > and > Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC.edu). > Now, after I had finished all my courses, I will write my Master > Thesis. > This will be a case study about the office suites OpenOffice and > LibreOffice. There used to be a project 'OpenOffice.org' which is now defunct. Out of that project, we now have 'LibreOffice' and 'Apache OpenOffice', and possibly others. Sadly, www.openoffice.org does not reflect this situation. Sorry for hijacking. Simos -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis
Hi Simos, Am 2013-01-25 16:07, schrieb Simos Xenitellis: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM, wrote: Hi Simos, yes, you are right! But, OpenOffice.org is past. The projects name now is Apache OpenOffice. With the "abbreviation" OpenOffice I refer to the former OpenOffice.org and to Apache OpenOffice. I hope you will accept this abbreviation. If you are doing academic work, you should use the proper names. The reason that 'OpenOffice' was not selected ten years ago was because some other company in Europe had already registered the name 'OpenOffice'. Not entirely correct. It was an american enterprise that has grabed the rights for this name. OpenOffice.org is now in the hands of Oracle and that will not spit it out. ;-( regards Veit Simos Am 2013-01-25 15:52, schrieb Simos Xenitellis: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM, wrote: Hi all, my name is Veit. I had studied Free Software at Free Technology Academy (ftacademy.org) and Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC.edu). Now, after I had finished all my courses, I will write my Master Thesis. This will be a case study about the office suites OpenOffice and LibreOffice. There used to be a project 'OpenOffice.org' which is now defunct. Out of that project, we now have 'LibreOffice' and 'Apache OpenOffice', and possibly others. Sadly, www.openoffice.org does not reflect this situation. Sorry for hijacking. Simos -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: [tdf-discuss] First Round of Questions for my Master Thesis
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM, wrote: > Hi Simos, > yes, you are right! > But, OpenOffice.org is past. > The projects name now is Apache OpenOffice. > > With the "abbreviation" OpenOffice I refer to the former OpenOffice.org and > to Apache OpenOffice. > I hope you will accept this abbreviation. > If you are doing academic work, you should use the proper names. The reason that 'OpenOffice' was not selected ten years ago was because some other company in Europe had already registered the name 'OpenOffice'. Simos > > Am 2013-01-25 15:52, schrieb Simos Xenitellis: > >> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:18 PM, wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> my name is Veit. >>> I had studied Free Software at Free Technology Academy (ftacademy.org) >>> and >>> Universitat Oberta de Catalunya (UOC.edu). >>> Now, after I had finished all my courses, I will write my Master Thesis. >>> This will be a case study about the office suites OpenOffice and >>> LibreOffice. >> >> >> There used to be a project 'OpenOffice.org' which is now defunct. >> Out of that project, we now have 'LibreOffice' and 'Apache >> OpenOffice', and possibly others. >> >> Sadly, www.openoffice.org does not reflect this situation. >> Sorry for hijacking. >> >> Simos -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted