[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-08-18 Thread ncreamer
u...and so quickly we reach the limits of my understanding here. Whoops. 
So I thought I was demonstrating that command with that one line I
referenced. Does it help to put the whole table setup?  Or would all the
tables be helpful?  Again here I used the Mental Health Clinic Database
(from the tutorial) as a guideline. This table is an intermediary to deal
with a many to many relationship. 

CREATE TABLE Vulnerability (
Vuln ID INTEGER NOT NULL,
Vulnerability INTEGER NOT NULL,
VulnInstance NUMERIC(10) DEFAULT 1,
CONSTRAINT PK_ISSUE PRIMARY KEY (Vulnerability, Vuln ID ),
CONSTRAINT FK_ISSUE FOREIGN KEY (Vulnerability) REFERENCES Issue Type
(Issue ID),
CONSTRAINT FK_SCAN_VULN FOREIGN KEY (Vuln ID) REFERENCES Scan (Scan
ID)
);

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-08-18 Thread planas
Hi,

On Thu, 2011-08-18 at 04:52 -0700, ncreamer wrote:

 CREATE TABLE Vulnerability (
 Vuln ID INTEGER NOT NULL,
 Vulnerability INTEGER NOT NULL,
 VulnInstance NUMERIC(10) DEFAULT 1,
 CONSTRAINT PK_ISSUE PRIMARY KEY (Vulnerability, Vuln ID ),
 CONSTRAINT FK_ISSUE FOREIGN KEY (Vulnerability) REFERENCES Issue
 Type
 (Issue ID),
 CONSTRAINT FK_SCAN_VULN FOREIGN KEY (Vuln ID) REFERENCES
 Scan (Scan
 ID)
 ); 

I was able to get the code fragment

CREATE TABLE Vulnerability (
Vuln ID INTEGER NOT NULL,
Vulnerability INTEGER NOT NULL,
VulnInstance NUMERIC(10) DEFAULT 1)

to generate a table in Base but it did not accept the default value.
When I copied the table and edited the copy, forcing the default value
to be 1, it did accept the value.
When I created a table by design view, it would not display the assigned
default value.

Testing the query in other databases (MariaDB and SQLite) it worked
erratically, SQLite displaying the default value and MariaDB not
displaying it.

Checking my references, the syntax is correct of Column_name data_type
[column_attributes].

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-08-18 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 17/08/11 20:53, ncreamer a écrit :

Hi,

 Helpful thread - thank you.  Any idea why not even the SQL tool will set a
 default value for me?  I spent lots of time in the Base_Tutorial and created
 tables with SQL.  The field that follows does NOT have a default value of 1
 and, as this thread confirms, I can't set it in design mode.
 


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38337


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-08-18 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 17/08/11 20:53, ncreamer a écrit :

And this :

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61t=26194#p119217

Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-08-17 Thread ncreamer
Helpful thread - thank you.  Any idea why not even the SQL tool will set a
default value for me?  I spent lots of time in the Base_Tutorial and created
tables with SQL.  The field that follows does NOT have a default value of 1
and, as this thread confirms, I can't set it in design mode.

FieldName NUMERIC(10) DEFAULT 1,

All my tables/relationships, etc. execute without fail (after much trial 
error) but when I create entries in this table, I do not get a default value
of 1.  Any ideas? 

Mac OS 10.5.8
LO 3.4.0

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-08-17 Thread planas
Hi,

On Wed, 2011-08-17 at 11:53 -0700, ncreamer wrote: 

 Helpful thread - thank you.  Any idea why not even the SQL tool will set a
 default value for me?  I spent lots of time in the Base_Tutorial and created
 tables with SQL.  The field that follows does NOT have a default value of 1
 and, as this thread confirms, I can't set it in design mode.
 
 FieldName NUMERIC(10) DEFAULT 1,
 
 All my tables/relationships, etc. execute without fail (after much trial 
 error) but when I create entries in this table, I do not get a default value
 of 1.  Any ideas? 
 

What was the SQL command you used to create the default values in your
table? It might be a problem of the initiation query.


 Mac OS 10.5.8
 LO 3.4.0
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-06-05 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 04/06/11 17:41, Tom Davies a écrit :

Hi all,

Better off looking here first :


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=libreoffice+database


As you can see, there are a good number of Base bugs, many of which have
are still unresolved since the very first releases of LibreOffice.

Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-06-04 Thread ugm6hr
I'm suffering the same problem.
OO Base 3.2 workd fine. Having upgraded to LO 3.3 (and tried OO 3.3), any
date format field cannot have a default date set.
My prior embedded HSQL database (from OO2.x, used in OO3.2) doesn't work -
the set default date enters nonsense in the field, which obviously then
errors since it doesn't fit the date format. Hence, no new entries can be
made.
Deleting the default date works OK.
However, I don't enter the date in my form - it is always today - so I
simply edit the table each day before starting data entry. This no longer
works, making LO3.3+ unusable for me.
The workaround of using SQL each day is unsatisfactory (and this was not
necessary for 3.2).
(Tried LO/OO3.3 on Ubuntu 10.10  11.04)

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-06-04 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Have you already posted a bug-report about this or is there already one at 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
It might be worth posting one even if you don't have time to search through for 
one.  Triagers are quite smart about doing that and linking similar bugs 
together.
Good luck and regards from
Tom :)



- Original Message 
 From: ugm6hr ugm...@hotmail.com
 To: users@libreoffice.org
 Sent: Sat, 4 June, 2011 8:59:37
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save
 
 I'm suffering the same problem.
 OO Base 3.2 workd fine. Having upgraded to LO  3.3 (and tried OO 3.3), any
 date format field cannot have a default date  set.
 My prior embedded HSQL database (from OO2.x, used in OO3.2) doesn't work  -
 the set default date enters nonsense in the field, which obviously  then
 errors since it doesn't fit the date format. Hence, no new entries can  be
 made.
 Deleting the default date works OK.
 However, I don't enter the  date in my form - it is always today - so I
 simply edit the table each  day before starting data entry. This no longer
 works, making LO3.3+ unusable  for me.
 The workaround of using SQL each day is unsatisfactory (and this was  not
 necessary for 3.2).
 (Tried LO/OO3.3 on Ubuntu 10.10   11.04)
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-05-06 Thread John Shabanowitz
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Alexander Thurgood
alex.thurg...@gmail.comwrote:

 Le 03/05/11 00:24, John Shabanowitz a écrit :

 Try the solution suggested in this thread :

 http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=61t=26194

 i.e. Go to the Tools - SQL menu entry

 Enter an ALTER table command to set the default value for each field as
 you desire.

 e.g. alter table T2 alter column C2 set default 0;


 HTH,

 Alex

 Good Info.
 I thought it was a bug because of inconsistent behavior. When you connect
to a MySQL database using Base and Oracle's MySQL connector, you can ALTER,
CREATE, and DROP tables from the GUI in Base. I need to use a reference when
writing SQL so sometimes the GUI is the easiest way to get up to speed,
especially with complex queries.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-05-06 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 06/05/11 13:42, John Shabanowitz a écrit :

Hi John,

 Good Info.
  I thought it was a bug because of inconsistent behavior. When you connect
 to a MySQL database using Base and Oracle's MySQL connector, you can ALTER,
 CREATE, and DROP tables from the GUI in Base. I need to use a reference when
 writing SQL so sometimes the GUI is the easiest way to get up to speed,
 especially with complex queries.
 

Unfortunately, even with the Mysql connector (which is actually pretty
good it has to be said) there will be times where you will have to
resort to SQL. Watch out for bugs / deficiencies in the in-built OOo SQL
parser when executing complex queries, you will have to switch the
parser off to get any meaningful result, even with the Mysql connector,
and there is a strange date calculation issue floating around that makes
adding and subtracting dates error prone.


Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-05-03 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 03/05/11 14:55, Tod Hopkins a écrit :

Hi Tod,


 
 I would very much like to use Base, but I'm at the edge of having sufficient 
 knowledge to make it work.  It appears that in order to make Base work for 
 me, I will have to study MySQL and use it as my backend, with base as a front 
 end.
 


Well, it isn't an absolute requirement to use a db server to get
something useful out of Base, but if you want to carry on using HSQLDB
(as provided by LibO or in its latest version incarnation of 2.0), then
I would strongly advise you to read the tutorials on the OpenOffice.org
forum about setting up mixed-mode functionality. At present, even using
mysql has its quirks/problems when working from within LibO/OOo, but so
far, with my own use of mysql, the only things I've managed to kill in
the past have been my ODB files (most notably forms) and not my data.


Alex



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-05-03 Thread Tod Hopkins
Thanks for the advice.  By mixed-mode you mean the use of HSQLDB front end 
with MySQL (or other) backend?

I've been trying to read what documentation there is.  Not much.  I find that 
as soon as I get beyond what I already understand, there is a presumption that 
I that I have a working knowledge of SQL, which I don't.  

So, since my goal is multi-user database, for which I now see that I need MySQL 
anyway, I figure I should turn to learning MySQL. 

Cheers,
 tod


On May 3, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

 Le 03/05/11 14:55, Tod Hopkins a écrit :
 
 Hi Tod,
 
 
 
 I would very much like to use Base, but I'm at the edge of having sufficient 
 knowledge to make it work.  It appears that in order to make Base work for 
 me, I will have to study MySQL and use it as my backend, with base as a 
 front end.
 
 
 
 Well, it isn't an absolute requirement to use a db server to get
 something useful out of Base, but if you want to carry on using HSQLDB
 (as provided by LibO or in its latest version incarnation of 2.0), then
 I would strongly advise you to read the tutorials on the OpenOffice.org
 forum about setting up mixed-mode functionality. At present, even using
 mysql has its quirks/problems when working from within LibO/OOo, but so
 far, with my own use of mysql, the only things I've managed to kill in
 the past have been my ODB files (most notably forms) and not my data.
 
 
 Alex
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-05-03 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

Our Documentation Team will need volunteers that have some understanding of 
Base.  


There is likely to be help available in transferring OpenOffice's community 
documentation into our Alfresco content management system.  Documentation goes 
through a series of stages before reaching proof-reading.  A document is 
downloaded from Alfresco, edited in Writer or something and then re-uploaded 
either to the same stage or moving it on one stage until it reaches final 
proof-reading.  Screen-shots can't be done in Windows but that still leaves a 
lot of small edits that can make a huge difference.  


If anyone following or involved in this thread is willing to give it a try then 
please feel free to join the documentation teams mailing list.  


Regards from
Tom :)






From: Tod Hopkins hopl...@hillmanncarr.com
To: users@libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 3 May, 2011 15:17:59
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

Thanks for the advice.  By mixed-mode you mean the use of HSQLDB front end 
with MySQL (or other) backend?

I've been trying to read what documentation there is.  Not much.  I find that 
as 
soon as I get beyond what I already understand, there is a presumption that I 
that I have a working knowledge of SQL, which I don't.  


So, since my goal is multi-user database, for which I now see that I need MySQL 
anyway, I figure I should turn to learning MySQL. 


Cheers,
 tod


On May 3, 2011, at 9:21 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

 Le 03/05/11 14:55, Tod Hopkins a écrit :
 
 Hi Tod,
 
 
 
 I would very much like to use Base, but I'm at the edge of having sufficient 
knowledge to make it work.  It appears that in order to make Base work for 
me, I 
will have to study MySQL and use it as my backend, with base as a front end.
 
 
 
 Well, it isn't an absolute requirement to use a db server to get
 something useful out of Base, but if you want to carry on using HSQLDB
 (as provided by LibO or in its latest version incarnation of 2.0), then
 I would strongly advise you to read the tutorials on the OpenOffice.org
 forum about setting up mixed-mode functionality. At present, even using
 mysql has its quirks/problems when working from within LibO/OOo, but so
 far, with my own use of mysql, the only things I've managed to kill in
 the past have been my ODB files (most notably forms) and not my data.
 
 
 Alex
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-05-03 Thread Steve Edmonds
MySQL is quite simple once you get started. Makes it much easier with a 
tool like Webmin.
We started extensively with the old Lotus Approach and then migrated to 
PHP/MySQL for general cross platform browser access. I keep looking at 
Base, but it hasn't reached the state of Approach so haven't dived in.

steve

On 4/05/11 12:55 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:

I would not have figured that out.  The first thread suggests the preferred 
method for setting a default would be at the form level rather than at the 
table design level anyway.  I will look to see if that can be done now.  Makes 
sense to me.

I would very much like to use Base, but I'm at the edge of having sufficient 
knowledge to make it work.  It appears that in order to make Base work for me, 
I will have to study MySQL and use it as my backend, with base as a front end.

Cheers,
   tod

On May 3, 2011, at 3:13 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:


Le 02/05/11 23:08, Tod Hopkins a écrit :

It appears that the UI default value setting capability available
through the table editor/designer is not propagated to the underlying
database by design, see this bug report :

http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=108100


And it also appears that this will not be fixed any time soon, at least
not in the OOo code, given the work that would be required to fix it, so
it is probably even less likely to be done in the LibO code where there
are no specialist db developers AFAIK.

Currently, the only correct way to set a default value in the underlying
db is to issue a corresponding CREATE TABLE or ALTER TABLE statement via
the Tools - SQL menu entry.


Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-05-03 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 03/05/11 21:25, John Shabanowitz a écrit :

Hi John,


 Why can't Windows screen shots be accepted for the documentation? Is the
 Windows
 version of LibO that much different from the Linux and Mac versions?
 

It has nothing to do with differences in versions, but rather Microsoft
Corp's unwillingness to allow use of parts of its UI in screenshots for
free (as in libre) documentation. This has been previously discussed
on the LibO Documentation mailing list, and other LibO lists, as well as
several years ago on the OOo community mailing lists.


Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-05-03 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 03/05/11 19:46, Steve Edmonds a écrit :

Hi Steve,

 MySQL is quite simple once you get started. Makes it much easier with a
 tool like Webmin.
 We started extensively with the old Lotus Approach and then migrated to
 PHP/MySQL for general cross platform browser access. I keep looking at
 Base, but it hasn't reached the state of Approach so haven't dived in.
 steve
 

Yes, Base is still one hell of a long way from anything near what
Approach was or FileMaker Pro, for that matter. It is a shame that IBM
did not pursue the Approach way of doing things when it decided to put
its money into developing Lotus Symphony.


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Base Field Defaut Disables Save

2011-05-03 Thread Sigrid Carrera
Hi John, 

On Tue, 3 May 2011 15:25:35 -0400
John Shabanowitz john...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:42 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 

[...]

 
 Why can't Windows screen shots be accepted for the documentation? Is the
 Windows
 version of LibO that much different from the Linux and Mac versions?

It's not because it is so different from Mac or Linux versions but because 
Microsoft has a very certain view about copyright and using screenshots made on 
a Windows system in the documentation for a competing product. 

The germanophone OOo project asked MS Germany about this and the answer we got 
was that we would need permission from MS. (André, if I'm wrong, please correct 
me). So to avoid any copyright issues we decided to use only screenshots made 
under Linux. 

Sigrid

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