Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-08 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
Do you know which version of java you use?

Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Java

Versions _24 and onwards are increasingly bad for LibreOffice.  The _20 and _22 
are quite good but the _21 seems the fastest and best.  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS 
currently ships with _20.  On Gnu&Linux it quite easy to install another 
version 
specifically for LibreOffice while your web-browser continues to use the newer 
one.  If you are on WIndows then we could give a couple of links you could 
choose from to get the  _21.

Regards from
Tom :)





From: Steven Shelton 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Thu, 8 September, 2011 2:54:04
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 
3.4.x

On 9/5/2011 5:01 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> I'm pretty certain it is linked to this change, now if I could only
> find the announcement as to when it got fixed... Alex

I also get a crash any time I try to do a search of records. Something
about LibreOffice caused an invalid request or something. I don't have
the exact text in front of me.

Ugh.

Other than that, I really love version 3.4. Sadly, that's a bit like "So
other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" since my primary use
of LibreOffice is Base.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-08 Thread Alexander Thurgood 
Le 08/09/11 04:13, Steven Shelton a écrit :

Hi Steve,

Sorry, but this works for me on Mac OSX with 3.4.3, so I can not
reproduce the crash. I suspect you may have a corrupt user configuration
or else the problem is Windows specific.


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-07 Thread Don Myers 



On 09/07/2011 10:13 PM, Steven Shelton wrote:

On 9/7/2011 9:54 PM, Steven Shelton wrote:

I also get a crash any time I try to do a search of records.
Something about LibreOffice caused an invalid request or something.

Actually, just created a bug for this: **Bug 40701*
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When doing the following:

1. Open an existing database.
2. Open a form.
3. Click on the "Find Record" button on the bottom left.

Search works fine in Base 3.4.3 running on Ubuntu 11.04 32 bit.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-07 Thread Steven Shelton 
On 9/7/2011 9:54 PM, Steven Shelton wrote:
> I also get a crash any time I try to do a search of records.
> Something about LibreOffice caused an invalid request or something.

Actually, just created a bug for this: **Bug 40701*
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-07 Thread Steven Shelton 
On 9/5/2011 5:01 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> I'm pretty certain it is linked to this change, now if I could only
> find the announcement as to when it got fixed... Alex

I also get a crash any time I try to do a search of records. Something
about LibreOffice caused an invalid request or something. I don't have
the exact text in front of me.

Ugh.

Other than that, I really love version 3.4. Sadly, that's a bit like "So
other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?" since my primary use
of LibreOffice is Base.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-05 Thread Andreas Säger 
Attaching all logical forms to stand-alone office documents can give you
quite a lot of advantages. You may also use the tabbed interface of Calc or
Draw for your input forms.

1) You get form documents that can be opend by means of simple desktop links
so you never see the database document.
2) The form documents or pages (sheets) in the same form documents can be
connected by means of hyperlinks (switch boards without coding macros).
3) You can protect the form documents from modification by means of document
protection (on file system level or document level).
4) In the tabbed Calc interface you can elegantly mix input forms with
report sheets (enter invoice, print latest invoice, search invoice, also
without any coding). The layout and print capabilities of Calc are good
enough and it can easily do all sorts of calculation which are sometimes
more difficult to do in a database.
5) All Base features always refer to a single data source. In stand-alone
forms documents you can connect a form to a row set from database A and
build a relation through a subform connected to a row set from database B.
6) The bug which leads to the thread does not occur

Now for the only draw-back I'm aware of:
The Writer documents embedded in the Base document store their own settings
for window size, menu bars and view settings. When using stand-alone
documents for input forms, the initial window sizes and view settings are
the same as with any other documents of the same document type.

Step-by-step instructions on how to save an embedded Writer form as a
stand-alone Writer form:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=40493
It is possible to copy and paste forms into Calc or Draw and reconnect them
as described in the tutorial linked above.


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-05 Thread Alexander Thurgood 
Le 02/09/11 18:29, Steven Shelton a écrit :


Hi Steven,

> That could explain the problem I'm having on my end. I have a database
> form that works great under LO 3.3, but in 3.4 it always goes into
> "Print" view. Editing it, changing the view, and saving doesn't seem to
> help. I think they may have just changed the bug from "always defaulting
> to web display" to "always defaulting to print display".

I'm pretty certain it is linked to this change, now if I could only find
the announcement as to when it got fixed...


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-03 Thread Tom Davies 
+1





From: planas 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sat, 3 September, 2011 8:01:43
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 
3.4.x

Hi,

On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 22:53 -0700, akrobaticone wrote: 

> I think that Base is an important part of Libreoffice like Acces for MS
> office
> Many people says that Acces is a terrible software( i think this), but many
> users use it because is very simple to designe little DB and in many little
> business realities is the easiest way to create tools for simplify the work 
> In my opinion Base is an indispensable part of a competitive office suite
> and I hope in one of its major development.

Many agree with you, Base is important as bridge between a spreadsheet
and full blown monster.
+1 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-03 Thread planas 
Hi,

On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 22:53 -0700, akrobaticone wrote: 

> I think that Base is an important part of Libreoffice like Acces for MS
> office
> Many people says that Acces is a terrible software( i think this), but many
> users use it because is very simple to designe little DB and in many little
> business realities is the easiest way to create tools for simplify the work 
> In my opinion Base is an indispensable part of a competitive office suite
> and I hope in one of its major development.

Many agree with you, Base is important as bridge between a spreadsheet
and full blown monster.
+1 

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-02 Thread akrobaticone 
I think that Base is an important part of Libreoffice like Acces for MS
office
Many people says that Acces is a terrible software( i think this), but many
users use it because is very simple to designe little DB and in many little
business realities is the easiest way to create tools for simplify the work 
In my opinion Base is an indispensable part of a competitive office suite
and I hope in one of its major development.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-02 Thread Tom Davies 
Hi :)
Base is a bit quirky.  Even within the same branch some things seems to go a 
little wrong apparently.  I liked Alex's list of things to try to increase the 
chance of things going smoothly.  A couple of devs started working on Base 
recently but we need more.
Regards from
Tom :)





From: akrobaticone 
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Sent: Fri, 2 September, 2011 22:30:07
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x


Thank you to your suggestion I have modify the layout from "web"  to "print" 
by  LO 3.3.3
and changed the page format from A4 to A3
Loading the modified DB with LO 3.4.3 now the layout is showed correctly.

The two layout options  in menu are still in grey , but the DB finally
working
Creating a new DB with a new form this menu is active

I think there are  compatibility problems between  .odb file created with LO
version up to 3.3.x and LO 3.4.x  

What do you think?  

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-02 Thread akrobaticone 

Thank you to your suggestion I have modify the layout from "web"  to "print" 
by  LO 3.3.3
and changed the page format from A4 to A3
Loading the modified DB with LO 3.4.3 now the layout is showed correctly.

The two layout options  in menu are still in grey , but the DB finally
working
Creating a new DB with a new form this menu is active

I think there are  compatibility problems between  .odb file created with LO
version up to 3.3.x and LO 3.4.x   

What do you think?  

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-02 Thread akrobaticone 
I have renamed the user folder but the problem is still present

The DB was created with web layout  option

Don you suggest to come back to 3.3 version and modify the layout to Print
and try to open with 3.4 version?



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[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-02 Thread akrobaticone 
The DB is here
http://www.4shared.com/folder/m3tgAjOw/DatabaseDisegni.html Database 

DB work with all 3.3.x version
Ubuntu and Windows OS

and show the problem only with all 3.4.x version
With 3.4 I have try only with Windows XP

I register the DB with 3.4  version before  opening it.

On my PC is installed only3.4 version because the previus was removed
I have tested base with 4 different PC 

I open it with "modify" option and I choise the "Web layout" an save it.
After when I  open it  the Web and Print layout are still disabled and
layout is still corrupted.

Sorry for my english



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-02 Thread Don C. Myers 

Hi All,

When I went from OpenOffice to the first LibreOffice release, 3.3.x, I 
changed the size of all my fields in the Base forms since the display 
area became larger, and not all of the text I had entered would display. 
When I went to the 3.4 series, I had to increase the size of the page 
size to make the fields fit back into the Page. That was easier than 
going back and changing all of the field sizes again. Maybe this is 
related to what is being experienced here.


Don

On 09/02/2011 12:29 PM, Steven Shelton wrote:

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On 9/2/2011 11:22 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:

The "web display" by default was a bug that was corrected in a recent
version of LO, but I don't remember which one, I think one of the
3.4.x versions. The default was changed back to "Print Display" I
think. I didn't follow the bug thread and its resolution in detail,
so don't remember know exactly what was fixed.



That could explain the problem I'm having on my end. I have a database
form that works great under LO 3.3, but in 3.4 it always goes into
"Print" view. Editing it, changing the view, and saving doesn't seem to
help. I think they may have just changed the bug from "always defaulting
to web display" to "always defaulting to print display".


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-02 Thread Steven Shelton 

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On 9/2/2011 11:22 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote:
> The "web display" by default was a bug that was corrected in a recent
> version of LO, but I don't remember which one, I think one of the
> 3.4.x versions. The default was changed back to "Print Display" I
> think. I didn't follow the bug thread and its resolution in detail,
> so don't remember know exactly what was fixed.
 
 
That could explain the problem I'm having on my end. I have a database
form that works great under LO 3.3, but in 3.4 it always goes into
"Print" view. Editing it, changing the view, and saving doesn't seem to
help. I think they may have just changed the bug from "always defaulting
to web display" to "always defaulting to print display".
 
 
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-02 Thread Alexander Thurgood 
Le 02/09/11 12:55, akrobaticone a écrit :

Hi,


> Dear All
> This is my first post here
> Regards to all
> 
> I have created a DB with Base  with libreoffice 3.3
> now opening it with Libreoffice 3.4.x the layout is defective
> In layout menu both option ( print and web) are disabled
> 
> attached the DB in subject
> 
> What to do?

As the menu entries you refer to are grayed out, I suspect that your
user configuration files have become corrupted when you changed from LO
3.3.x to 3.4.x.

Have you tried renaming your LO user configuration folder and then
restarting LibreOffice ?

The "web display" by default was a bug that was corrected in a recent
version of LO, but I don't remember which one, I think one of the 3.4.x
versions. The default was changed back to "Print Display" I think. I
didn't follow the bug thread and its resolution in detail, so don't
remember know exactly what was fixed.


Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-02 Thread Andreas Säger 
You are right. Same problem after restarting the application. Too bad.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Defective layout in Base with libreoffice 3.4.x

2011-09-02 Thread Andreas Säger 
Open your forms for editing.
Switch each one from menu:View>"Print Layout" to "Web Layout"
Save the forms.
Save the DB.

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