[libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
Hi :) You are welcome. I am glad you managed to fix the problem. The last few posts seem to have crossed in the posting but it's all good :) The documentation team is always glad of any help and new users are often able to bring a fresh perspective that can solve a number of questions that longer-term users find impossible to answer, such as how it looks to a newcomer ;) Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3498883.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
Thanks Tom On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:13 AM, Tom wrote: > Hi :) > Official documentation is at both > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications > and at > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ > > The wiki has links to other 3rd party documentation. The guides are > written > for 3.3.x but the 3.4.x guides are being worked through steadily and may > start appearing in the next few weeks. The guides are written elsewhere > and > then usually uploaded to the wiki a day or few before the official site. > Hopefully the "Getting Started Guide" might be a little bit easier than > whatever guides you have been using so far. > > Regards from > Tom :) > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3498824.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
Hi :) Official documentation is at both http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications and at http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/ The wiki has links to other 3rd party documentation. The guides are written for 3.3.x but the 3.4.x guides are being worked through steadily and may start appearing in the next few weeks. The guides are written elsewhere and then usually uploaded to the wiki a day or few before the official site. Hopefully the "Getting Started Guide" might be a little bit easier than whatever guides you have been using so far. Regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3498824.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
In the process of trying resolve a different problem - I uninstalled L.O. - deleted the Libreoffice directory from Program files and removed the Libreoffice folder out of my app/data folder. Thus doing what your article references, and more. :-) This seems to have resolved the problem. Thanks for your help, Tom On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:45 PM, Tom wrote: > Hi :) > Ouch, sorry!! > > Try re-naming your user-profile as shown in this OOo guide > http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=12426 > > With OpenSource programs such as FireFox, Thunderbird and so on the > user-profile contains all the settings and configurations and keeps them > separate from the program itself. This makes it easier to upgrade the > program or re-install it and the newly installed version will have the same > settings (and maybe add a few). > > Renaming the user-profile forces the program to generate a new one which > effectively sets the program "back to factory defaults". It's the > equivalent of re-installing a non-OpenSource program except that any > updates, patches, bug-fixes and such would still be installed. > > Apols and regards from > Tom :) > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3498777.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
Hi :) Ouch, sorry!! Try re-naming your user-profile as shown in this OOo guide http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=12426 With OpenSource programs such as FireFox, Thunderbird and so on the user-profile contains all the settings and configurations and keeps them separate from the program itself. This makes it easier to upgrade the program or re-install it and the newly installed version will have the same settings (and maybe add a few). Renaming the user-profile forces the program to generate a new one which effectively sets the program "back to factory defaults". It's the equivalent of re-installing a non-OpenSource program except that any updates, patches, bug-fixes and such would still be installed. Apols and regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3498777.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
Thanks for sharing the info. Pedro. Fortunately I have found the cause of this problem and it could be listed as a user error. Needless to say after using MS Word for roughly 17 years I know it better than L.O. - which I recently have started to use as my full time word processor. Anyhow - in MS Word - You can create a drop cap at the beginning of a one line, short sentence. Tonight, I discovered that does not hold true to either OpenOffice or LibreOffice. Its seems for either OO or LO - you have to have a paragraph with a minimal of three lines of text in order for Drop Cap to work properly. I really with L.O. had a LibreOffice 3.4 Manual for Dummies available so extreme novices to the program could easily learn each program/feature within L.O. The only manual I have seen so far is for L.O. 3.3 and it is definitely not written in a simplistic manner. Thanks again for your help. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:15 PM, Pedro wrote: > > Jonathon Waterman wrote: > > > > In doing further testing - I have also discovered if you install > > OpenOffice > > 3.3.0 - the problem exists there, as well. Ironically, whatever is > causing > > this does not affect MS Word 2007. > > > > Apparently, LO 3.4.4. has shut off some Drop Cap setting which affects > all > > versions of L.O and OO. > > > > I can always set a Dropcap in a paragraph. The funny part is that if I save > the document as ODT it will not retain the font used for the Drop Cap > because it doesn't save the Character Style (it shows as [None] on reload). > Saving the document as DOC keeps the correct formatting. LOL > > In the attached files the Drop Cap is formatted as Times New Roman and the > text as Arial. In my PC if I open the ODT file again it will show the Drop > Cap as Arial while the DOC file shows as TNR. > > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3498751/dropcap.odt dropcap.odt > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3498751/dropcap.doc dropcap.doc > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3498751.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
Jonathon Waterman wrote: > > In doing further testing - I have also discovered if you install > OpenOffice > 3.3.0 - the problem exists there, as well. Ironically, whatever is causing > this does not affect MS Word 2007. > > Apparently, LO 3.4.4. has shut off some Drop Cap setting which affects all > versions of L.O and OO. > I can always set a Dropcap in a paragraph. The funny part is that if I save the document as ODT it will not retain the font used for the Drop Cap because it doesn't save the Character Style (it shows as [None] on reload). Saving the document as DOC keeps the correct formatting. LOL In the attached files the Drop Cap is formatted as Times New Roman and the text as Arial. In my PC if I open the ODT file again it will show the Drop Cap as Arial while the DOC file shows as TNR. http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3498751/dropcap.odt dropcap.odt http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/file/n3498751/dropcap.doc dropcap.doc -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3498751.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
In doing further testing - I have also discovered if you install OpenOffice 3.3.0 - the problem exists there, as well. Ironically, whatever is causing this does not affect MS Word 2007. Apparently, LO 3.4.4. has shut off some Drop Cap setting which affects all versions of L.O and OO. Weird! On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:00 PM, Jonathon Waterman wrote: > Great. Unfortunately not only is it now working under Windows 7 64 bit > Home Premium - if you uninstall 3.44 and reinstall 3.43 - you still have > the problem. Needless to say, before now - Dropcaps did work properly > within LO itself. > > Note: Deleting the LO directory under Program Files (396) and the Appdata > for LO does not resolve the problem - then installing 3.4.3 or 3.44 does > not resolve the problem. > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Pedro wrote: > >> It's working perfectly under Win XP Pro SP3 running LibreOffice 3.4.4 >> Final >> (Build 402) >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3498012.html >> Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> -- >> For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted >> >> > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
Great. Unfortunately not only is it now working under Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium - if you uninstall 3.44 and reinstall 3.43 - you still have the problem. Needless to say, before now - Dropcaps did work properly within LO itself. Note: Deleting the LO directory under Program Files (396) and the Appdata for LO does not resolve the problem - then installing 3.4.3 or 3.44 does not resolve the problem. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Pedro wrote: > It's working perfectly under Win XP Pro SP3 running LibreOffice 3.4.4 Final > (Build 402) > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3498012.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
It's working perfectly under Win XP Pro SP3 running LibreOffice 3.4.4 Final (Build 402) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3498012.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
Hi :) I find MS Word fairly hopeless at dealing with pictures. Writer seems to have a lot more sophistication especially when using native formats such as Odt. It seems to have a wider range of ways to anchor things and moving them around the page is easier. At my main work-place they still use MS Office for most things but are now using Writer for their newsletter and beginning to look at it for other things too. Good luck with the report to MS :) Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 10/11/11, Jonathon Waterman wrote: From: Jonathon Waterman Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 10 November, 2011, 17:00 Thanks for the suggestions,Tom. The file is definitely being saved in .doc format - and it uses Garamond 11 font in both MS Word and LO. I recently installed 3.4.4 - yet have not had time to see if the incompatibility problem still exists with this latest version. I've also noticed a graphics problem whereas I would anchor a jpg in LO to a paragraph, yet when opened in MS Word - it changes position and shows it in Word as being anchored to a character. Strange. Unfortunately, I cannot save in PDF format since additional editing will be done. Thanks for your help. I'll submit the problem to MS and see if they might have an insight into what's going on. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Tom wrote: > Hi :) > Apparently the best bet is to keep the original copy of the document in Odt > format and use "Save As ..." to save in the older MS formats. Are you sure > the file is saved as Doc rather than DocX? In the "Save As ..." menu it's > the "Microsoft Word (97/2000/Xp)" option. > > Perhaps the dropped caps are a different font? One that the MS Office user > doesn't have? If you could find the fonts file and forward it to the MS > Office user they might be able to read the document properly? > > If the document only needs to be viewed by the other person and not edited > at all the Pdf would be the best format as it displays the document exactly > the way it appears on your machine. > > Again many apols that no-one was able to give any answer sooner. Hopefully > someone might have a better idea and help you soon. > Apols and regards from > Tom :) > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3497203.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
Thanks for the suggestions,Tom. The file is definitely being saved in .doc format - and it uses Garamond 11 font in both MS Word and LO. I recently installed 3.4.4 - yet have not had time to see if the incompatibility problem still exists with this latest version. I've also noticed a graphics problem whereas I would anchor a jpg in LO to a paragraph, yet when opened in MS Word - it changes position and shows it in Word as being anchored to a character. Strange. Unfortunately, I cannot save in PDF format since additional editing will be done. Thanks for your help. I'll submit the problem to MS and see if they might have an insight into what's going on. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Tom wrote: > Hi :) > Apparently the best bet is to keep the original copy of the document in Odt > format and use "Save As ..." to save in the older MS formats. Are you sure > the file is saved as Doc rather than DocX? In the "Save As ..." menu it's > the "Microsoft Word (97/2000/Xp)" option. > > Perhaps the dropped caps are a different font? One that the MS Office user > doesn't have? If you could find the fonts file and forward it to the MS > Office user they might be able to read the document properly? > > If the document only needs to be viewed by the other person and not edited > at all the Pdf would be the best format as it displays the document exactly > the way it appears on your machine. > > Again many apols that no-one was able to give any answer sooner. Hopefully > someone might have a better idea and help you soon. > Apols and regards from > Tom :) > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3497203.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- > For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Dropped Caps - Sharing a .doc file created in LO 3.4.3 and MS Word 2007
Hi :) Apparently the best bet is to keep the original copy of the document in Odt format and use "Save As ..." to save in the older MS formats. Are you sure the file is saved as Doc rather than DocX? In the "Save As ..." menu it's the "Microsoft Word (97/2000/Xp)" option. Perhaps the dropped caps are a different font? One that the MS Office user doesn't have? If you could find the fonts file and forward it to the MS Office user they might be able to read the document properly? If the document only needs to be viewed by the other person and not edited at all the Pdf would be the best format as it displays the document exactly the way it appears on your machine. Again many apols that no-one was able to give any answer sooner. Hopefully someone might have a better idea and help you soon. Apols and regards from Tom :) -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Dropped-Caps-Sharing-a-doc-file-created-in-LO-3-4-3-and-MS-Word-2007-tp3485160p3497203.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
