Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7
Regina, thank you very much. Details follow. On 5/22/2012 9:12 AM, Regina Henschel wrote: Hi Dennis, Dennis E. Hamilton schrieb: @James, I see. It happens that Windows XP will not let you assign a different program of the same name to be associated with the same file extension via Open With ... . I have both LibreOffice Writer and OpenOffice Writer in the Open With... list. Why do you think, that it is not possible? My 'open with' only shows OO now that I've done the upgrade -- it was not true before. So I do the 'choose program', it gives me a list of some suggested ones, and in the list of not-so-suggested one, LO is not there. So I browse and get programs/LO3.4/swriter.exe, choose OK and it still is not added to my list of choices. I'm assuming the program name is the same under OO and though the path gives it's full uniqueness in naming, that doesn't it. You can do even more. WinXP gives you an UI to add an item to the context menu. So you can add a 'Open with AOO' and 'Open with LO'. Click on Extras Folder Options in the menu bar of the Windows Explorer. Click on tab File types. Goto odt (for example) in the file list and click on it. Now in the lower part some buttons are enabled. Click on Extended. That's the lowest one. Same results as before. You get a dialog page to create and alter context menu items. Click on New. In the upper field type the text do you want to see in the context menu. In the lower field type the path to the application, for example to swriter.exe from LO (or search with the button). Quote the path inclusive filename, because it likely has spaces. After the path enter the parameter -o %1. Click OK. The parameter -o stand for open, but you can use the other parameters mentioned in the help as well. At your suggestion, I went to the individual 'calls' within ODT and changed each call from (mumble)Open Office(mumble) to (same mumble)LibreOffice(mumble) and my day is saved, I now can double-click my files and they open. But I shouldn't have to do this. I believe Open Office, via (the evil empire of) Oracle is doing things nefarious. Thanks to you I can recover, I'll now move on and let others address this at a higher level if they so desire. I have a German WinXP and therefore my translations might not give the exact terms you see in your English XP, but I hope you find the places. Kind regards Regina Regina, kind regards back at'cha .grin Enjoy, -doug -- A society that gets rid of all its troublemakers goes downhill. - Robert A. Heinlein -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7
Hi :) Does the advice in http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel manage to deal with this issue? Regards from Tom :) --- On Tue, 22/5/12, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Tuesday, 22 May, 2012, 0:28 @James, I see. It happens that Windows XP will not let you assign a different program of the same name to be associated with the same file extension via Open With ... . When you go find the second program, it behaves as if you already have it in the list and won't add another to the list. This is *not* the case for Windows Vista (and therefore Windows 7 and Windows 8, I surmise). Those will provide all of the associations without trickery. To work around the Windows XP limitation, your trick of using soffice.exe instead of swriter.exe, scalc.exe, etc., works great. Until there are more than two that you want to hook up to the same extension [;). Changing the program-file names probably works so long as you don't change soffice.bin. I wouldn't do that except as a last resort. (It will mess up program updates and the uninstaller, for example.) I have a set of screen captures for walking through this on Windows XP. I'll put them in some mutually useful place. - Dennis PS: I confirmed this on a Windows XP where the install of Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 stomped on the associations of LibreOffice 3.5.2.2. PPS: Unfortunately, something else was stomped on so sometimes the programs get blocked and there are multiple soffice.bin and soffice.exe instances running, but nothing useful happens. I am not sure that is repeatable. I'm going to try installing LibreOffice 3.5 *after* the AOO 3.4.0 to see if that is better. I suspect it might be. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 14:39 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7 What I discovered in the Vista VM was that the icons are different between LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org scalc and they appear in the Open With ... dialog. There is no confusion there as a result. Lotus Symphony uses a different file name so there is no problem there. I don't know whether the choose program dialog will allow a shortcut to be used. That's an interesting idea though. -Original Message- From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 14:25 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7 James Knott wrote: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] I think you already know how to do this, by using the Open With ... context-menu and take the Choose Default Program option. You'll have to find the installed files and select them. Perhaps even make it the default at first, although you can select the program and remove the check mark on Always use the selected program ... . Thereafter, they should all be offered in the Open With ... without having to be added. But I suspect this is where you might be frustrated. (This is how I add WinZip to all of the ODF and OOXML extension names so I can simplify document-forensic work.) Got it. You gave me the idea. Instead of going into the OpenOffice folder and selecting, for example, swriter, I selected OpenOffice and it now appears as a choice when I right click. It also now possible to choose any of the three to be the default app. tnx jk I have found another way. Change the OpenOffice files to owriter etc. This way, OpenOffice Writer is displayed, instead of just OpenOffice.org 3.4, when right clicking. Perhaps creating a shortcut there may work too. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org
[libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7
Regina Henschel wrote I have both LibreOffice Writer and OpenOffice Writer in the Open With... list. Why do you think, that it is not possible? It is possible. But the order in which you install one or the other sometimes affects the final result. And sometimes when you try to add an item to Open with... Windows simply refuses. It is not straightforward (otherwise there would not be so many people complaining about this...) See this as an example http://ask.libreoffice.org/question/2832/trouble-with-file-extensions-in-lo -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Re-File-associations-LibreOffice-and-OpenOffice-on-Windows-7-tp3985184p3985336.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: You can try to add AOO associations manually, but it might not be effective. The problem is that LibreOffice, OpenOffice.org, and Apache OpenOffice all use the same (old Star Office) names for the individual application programs. Even if you succeed in having multiple swriter.exe associations, for example, you may have trouble telling them apart [;). I think you already know how to do this, by using the Open With ... context-menu and take the Choose Default Program option. You'll have to find the installed files and select them. Perhaps even make it the default at first, although you can select the program and remove the check mark on Always use the selected program ... . Thereafter, they should all be offered in the Open With ... without having to be added. But I suspect this is where you might be frustrated. (This is how I add WinZip to all of the ODF and OOXML extension names so I can simplify document-forensic work.) Got it. You gave me the idea. Instead of going into the OpenOffice folder and selecting, for example, swriter, I selected OpenOffice and it now appears as a choice when I right click. It also now possible to choose any of the three to be the default app. tnx jk -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7
James Knott wrote: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: You can try to add AOO associations manually, but it might not be effective. The problem is that LibreOffice, OpenOffice.org, and Apache OpenOffice all use the same (old Star Office) names for the individual application programs. Even if you succeed in having multiple swriter.exe associations, for example, you may have trouble telling them apart [;). I think you already know how to do this, by using the Open With ... context-menu and take the Choose Default Program option. You'll have to find the installed files and select them. Perhaps even make it the default at first, although you can select the program and remove the check mark on Always use the selected program ... . Thereafter, they should all be offered in the Open With ... without having to be added. But I suspect this is where you might be frustrated. (This is how I add WinZip to all of the ODF and OOXML extension names so I can simplify document-forensic work.) Got it. You gave me the idea. Instead of going into the OpenOffice folder and selecting, for example, swriter, I selected OpenOffice and it now appears as a choice when I right click. It also now possible to choose any of the three to be the default app. tnx jk I have found another way. Change the OpenOffice files to owriter etc. This way, OpenOffice Writer is displayed, instead of just OpenOffice.org 3.4, when right clicking. Perhaps creating a shortcut there may work too. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7
What I discovered in the Vista VM was that the icons are different between LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org scalc and they appear in the Open With ... dialog. There is no confusion there as a result. Lotus Symphony uses a different file name so there is no problem there. I don't know whether the choose program dialog will allow a shortcut to be used. That's an interesting idea though. -Original Message- From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 14:25 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7 James Knott wrote: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] I think you already know how to do this, by using the Open With ... context-menu and take the Choose Default Program option. You'll have to find the installed files and select them. Perhaps even make it the default at first, although you can select the program and remove the check mark on Always use the selected program ... . Thereafter, they should all be offered in the Open With ... without having to be added. But I suspect this is where you might be frustrated. (This is how I add WinZip to all of the ODF and OOXML extension names so I can simplify document-forensic work.) Got it. You gave me the idea. Instead of going into the OpenOffice folder and selecting, for example, swriter, I selected OpenOffice and it now appears as a choice when I right click. It also now possible to choose any of the three to be the default app. tnx jk I have found another way. Change the OpenOffice files to owriter etc. This way, OpenOffice Writer is displayed, instead of just OpenOffice.org 3.4, when right clicking. Perhaps creating a shortcut there may work too. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7
@James, I see. It happens that Windows XP will not let you assign a different program of the same name to be associated with the same file extension via Open With ... . When you go find the second program, it behaves as if you already have it in the list and won't add another to the list. This is *not* the case for Windows Vista (and therefore Windows 7 and Windows 8, I surmise). Those will provide all of the associations without trickery. To work around the Windows XP limitation, your trick of using soffice.exe instead of swriter.exe, scalc.exe, etc., works great. Until there are more than two that you want to hook up to the same extension [;). Changing the program-file names probably works so long as you don't change soffice.bin. I wouldn't do that except as a last resort. (It will mess up program updates and the uninstaller, for example.) I have a set of screen captures for walking through this on Windows XP. I'll put them in some mutually useful place. - Dennis PS: I confirmed this on a Windows XP where the install of Apache OpenOffice 3.4.0 stomped on the associations of LibreOffice 3.5.2.2. PPS: Unfortunately, something else was stomped on so sometimes the programs get blocked and there are multiple soffice.bin and soffice.exe instances running, but nothing useful happens. I am not sure that is repeatable. I'm going to try installing LibreOffice 3.5 *after* the AOO 3.4.0 to see if that is better. I suspect it might be. -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:dennis.hamil...@acm.org] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 14:39 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7 What I discovered in the Vista VM was that the icons are different between LibreOffice and OpenOffice.org scalc and they appear in the Open With ... dialog. There is no confusion there as a result. Lotus Symphony uses a different file name so there is no problem there. I don't know whether the choose program dialog will allow a shortcut to be used. That's an interesting idea though. -Original Message- From: James Knott [mailto:james.kn...@rogers.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 14:25 To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7 James Knott wrote: Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: [ ... ] I think you already know how to do this, by using the Open With ... context-menu and take the Choose Default Program option. You'll have to find the installed files and select them. Perhaps even make it the default at first, although you can select the program and remove the check mark on Always use the selected program ... . Thereafter, they should all be offered in the Open With ... without having to be added. But I suspect this is where you might be frustrated. (This is how I add WinZip to all of the ODF and OOXML extension names so I can simplify document-forensic work.) Got it. You gave me the idea. Instead of going into the OpenOffice folder and selecting, for example, swriter, I selected OpenOffice and it now appears as a choice when I right click. It also now possible to choose any of the three to be the default app. tnx jk I have found another way. Change the OpenOffice files to owriter etc. This way, OpenOffice Writer is displayed, instead of just OpenOffice.org 3.4, when right clicking. Perhaps creating a shortcut there may work too. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: File associations - LibreOffice and OpenOffice on Windows 7
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: I don't know whether the choose program dialog will allow a shortcut to be used. That's an interesting idea though. Apparently not. So, that leaves either using OpenOffice or renaming the individual apps. In Linux it'd be easy to just create a link with a different name. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
