[libreoffice-users] Re: Help with formatting footnotes...
Hi All! Thank you for the replies! When I say "footnotes," I am talking about the type used in academic writing. Endnotes also have the same problem... For a simple explanation of what footnotes and endnotes are, see: http://www.aresearchguide.com/7footnot.html Let me be a little more specific about my problem . . . while I am writing, I use Zotero to insert footnotes containing citation information. Also, I add footnotes manually when I need to add a little extra information. These footnotes come up in a different font than I am using, and I also like to change the font size to be a little smaller. I can not select all the footnotes at once and change these things. I have to do each one manually, which adds up quickly when you consider there are 50-60 per chapter of my 8 chapter dissertation. And then there are other documents that I am working on too. I almost never have a piece of writing without footnotes. The next problem I have encountered is how footnotes and endnotes appear in .docx format; especially when I open them in Microsoft Word 2008 or 2011 for Mac. Unfortunately, no matter how much I'd like to use LibreOffice instead of Word, I have to submit my documents in .docx form to be read in Word. I have already done this once, and I had to re-insert every footnote in Word after transferring the document. Because of these two problems, at this point, LibreOffice is simply unusable for me - and probably for most academics and university students. It's a shame, because I really love it otherwise - especially its support for uncommon fonts (which I use a lot of). I can use N'Ko with LibreOffice, but not with Word 2011. (For more info on N'Ko, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%27Ko_script). While creating a macro may work, footnotes and endnotes are something that really should work automatically - especially for people who aren't good with computers, like me! :) And even if I do get that working, .docx files need to transfer seamlessly to Word 2011. Unfortunately, even if I switch to LibreOffice, the rest of my colleagues probably won't and so I need to be able to work with them without problems. I hope this explains everything! Thanks again! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Help-with-formatting-footnotes-tp3145923p3152214.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Help with formatting footnotes...
Thank you all for the tip on .doc vs. docx - I will play with that to see if it works. Still, the footnote issue remains a deal breaker for me! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Help-with-formatting-footnotes-tp3145923p3152800.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Help with formatting footnotes...
Hi :) You might find that using Shift and Ctrl V inserts text better than using Ctrl V without the Shift key. I'm not sure how the "unformatted paste" will look but it sometimes works :) I think the Documentation Team might be worth asking if you could join their mailing list & forward it to them. Can you use the older Doc format or do you really have to use DocX? Doc (without the X) is more compatible with more systems than DocX. DocX even misbehaves between different version of MS Office apparently, ie between MS Office 2007 and MS Office 2010. I find it odd that academia is supporting the move to restricting access to information rather than supporting intellectual freedom http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/ http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/ But this sort of thing happens when people allow commercial interests to push them. Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: gena_hill To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 8 July, 2011 16:44:20 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Help with formatting footnotes... Hi All! Thank you for the replies! When I say "footnotes," I am talking about the type used in academic writing. Endnotes also have the same problem... For a simple explanation of what footnotes and endnotes are, see: http://www.aresearchguide.com/7footnot.html Let me be a little more specific about my problem . . . while I am writing, I use Zotero to insert footnotes containing citation information. Also, I add footnotes manually when I need to add a little extra information. These footnotes come up in a different font than I am using, and I also like to change the font size to be a little smaller. I can not select all the footnotes at once and change these things. I have to do each one manually, which adds up quickly when you consider there are 50-60 per chapter of my 8 chapter dissertation. And then there are other documents that I am working on too. I almost never have a piece of writing without footnotes. The next problem I have encountered is how footnotes and endnotes appear in .docx format; especially when I open them in Microsoft Word 2008 or 2011 for Mac. Unfortunately, no matter how much I'd like to use LibreOffice instead of Word, I have to submit my documents in .docx form to be read in Word. I have already done this once, and I had to re-insert every footnote in Word after transferring the document. Because of these two problems, at this point, LibreOffice is simply unusable for me - and probably for most academics and university students. It's a shame, because I really love it otherwise - especially its support for uncommon fonts (which I use a lot of). I can use N'Ko with LibreOffice, but not with Word 2011. (For more info on N'Ko, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%27Ko_script). While creating a macro may work, footnotes and endnotes are something that really should work automatically - especially for people who aren't good with computers, like me! :) And even if I do get that working, .docx files need to transfer seamlessly to Word 2011. Unfortunately, even if I switch to LibreOffice, the rest of my colleagues probably won't and so I need to be able to work with them without problems. I hope this explains everything! Thanks again! -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Help-with-formatting-footnotes-tp3145923p3152214.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Help with formatting footnotes...
Hi Gena, gena_hill schrieb: [..] Let me be a little more specific about my problem . . . while I am writing, I use Zotero to insert footnotes containing citation information. You insert this as true LibO footnotes? Also, I add footnotes manually when I need to add a little extra information. These footnotes come up in a different font than I am using, and I also like to change the font size to be a little smaller. I can not select all the footnotes at once and change these things. I have to do each one manually, which adds up quickly when you consider there are 50-60 per chapter of my 8 chapter dissertation. And then there are other documents that I am working on too. I almost never have a piece of writing without footnotes. If they are true footnotes, they have the paragraph style 'footnote'. Goto Edit>Find&Replace and expand the dialog. Check "Search for Styles" and select "footnote" from the search drop down list. Then click Find all. Now all footnotes are marked and you can remove all hard formatting with Format>Clear Direct Formatting. Close dialog. Now right click a footnote and select the item Edit Paragraph Style. In tap Font set the desired font and font size. Kind regards Regina -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Help with formatting footnotes...
Hi Gina, Do you have to share yours documets with yours colleagues and they have to make changes ? If not you can do your work with LibreOffice and make a "pdf" document with LibreOffice and send it to your collegues. Regards, Jorge Rodríguez __ El vie, 08-07-2011 a las 08:44 -0700, gena_hill escribió: > Hi All! Thank you for the replies! > When I say "footnotes," I am talking about the type used in academic > writing. Endnotes also have the same problem... For a simple explanation > of what footnotes and endnotes are, see: > http://www.aresearchguide.com/7footnot.html > > Let me be a little more specific about my problem . . . while I am writing, > I use Zotero to insert footnotes containing citation information. Also, I > add footnotes manually when I need to add a little extra information. These > footnotes come up in a different font than I am using, and I also like to > change the font size to be a little smaller. I can not select all the > footnotes at once and change these things. I have to do each one manually, > which adds up quickly when you consider there are 50-60 per chapter of my 8 > chapter dissertation. And then there are other documents that I am working > on too. I almost never have a piece of writing without footnotes. > > The next problem I have encountered is how footnotes and endnotes appear in > .docx format; especially when I open them in Microsoft Word 2008 or 2011 for > Mac. Unfortunately, no matter how much I'd like to use LibreOffice instead > of Word, I have to submit my documents in .docx form to be read in Word. I > have already done this once, and I had to re-insert every footnote in Word > after transferring the document. > > Because of these two problems, at this point, LibreOffice is simply unusable > for me - and probably for most academics and university students. It's a > shame, because I really love it otherwise - especially its support for > uncommon fonts (which I use a lot of). I can use N'Ko with LibreOffice, but > not with Word 2011. (For more info on N'Ko, see: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%27Ko_script). While creating a macro may > work, footnotes and endnotes are something that really should work > automatically - especially for people who aren't good with computers, like > me! :) And even if I do get that working, .docx files need to transfer > seamlessly to Word 2011. Unfortunately, even if I switch to LibreOffice, > the rest of my colleagues probably won't and so I need to be able to work > with them without problems. > > I hope this explains everything! Thanks again! > > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Help-with-formatting-footnotes-tp3145923p3152214.html > Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Atentamente, Jorge Rodríguez -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@global.libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
