Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Writer - special characters

[toki]

On 05/08/2017 02:21 PM, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:

> If you know of a free Unicode font that has near Ariel's number of symbols 
> and glyphs, I would really like to know. 

NoTo Sans * from Google.

It is meant as a web only font, but it works OK for printing.
The entire set takes up somewhere between ten and fifteen megabytes.

Unicode 9.0 is the current version. The last time I looked, Google was
at either Unicode 5.0, or 6.0.

I have no idea why, but font foundries continue to create fonts for
Unicode 4.0 or 5.0, acting as if those were the most recent versions of
the Unicode standard.

>It would be nice to have both Serif and San-Serif versions.

For some languages, NoTo is available in both Serif, and San-Serif versions.

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Writer - special characters

[Eddie]

On Mon, 8 May 2017 10:21:49 -0400
Tim-L--Elmira-NY  wrote:

> So it is helpful to have a good, full, Unicode font.  I use Arial 
> Unicode.  If you know of a free Unicode font that has near Arial's 
> number of symbols and glyphs, I would really like to know.  It would
> be nice to have both a Serif and San-Serif versions.

DejaVu Sans has the Rx symbol among 5371 entries in its character
map. DejaVu Serif - which I find to be gloriously readable both on
screen and on paper - has a paltry (!?) 3340 characters, none of which
are Rx. Linux Biolinum and Linux Libertine are in the 2000s.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Writer - special characters

[Piet van Oostrum]

V Stuart Foote  writes:

> Dave-3 wrote
>> That's interesting. If I try every possible combination of this method
>> with Writer under Win 7, all I get is a lower case x. It this something
>> peculiar to Linux or OSX?
>
> Added for the 5.1.0 release. It works with all OS, see  tdf#73691
>   , with some
> adjustments for locale.
>
> Just verified the +x  functions  as intended on Windows 7 sp1  (a Right
> Alt key, will end up as AltGr on some keyboard mappings for some locals, but
> the l-Alt should always work).
>
> Try with a reset user profile.

On MacOS it is ALT+CMD+X
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Writer - special characters

[Tim-L--Elmira-NY]

On 05/07/2017 03:44 PM, Dave wrote:

On 07.05.2017 20:59, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Dave-3 wrote

That's interesting. If I try every possible combination of this method
with Writer under Win 7, all I get is a lower case x. It this something
peculiar to Linux or OSX?

Added for the 5.1.0 release. It works with all OS, see  tdf#73691
  , with some
adjustments for locale.

Just verified the +x  functions  as intended on Windows 7 sp1  (a Right
Alt key, will end up as AltGr on some keyboard mappings for some locals, but
the l-Alt should always work).

Try with a reset user profile.

Hi Stuart,

Win 7 Ult SP1 - Fully updated.
LO Version: 5.3.2.2 (x64)
Build ID: 6cd4f1ef626f15116896b1d8e1398b56da0d0ee1
CPU Threads: 8; OS Version: Windows 6.1; UI Render: default; Layout
Engine: new;
Locale: en-AU (en_AU); Calc: group
Logitech K320/550 keyboard. No special mappings.


New user profile. Same lower case x result with Right Alt + x

However, for both original and new profiles _LEFT_ Alt + x works.

In other software Right Alt works as expected. Go figure?

Thanks anyway,
Dave


I am a little late in this post but. . . .

I tend to not remember the "alt" command.  I use the "Insert Special 
Character" option.  I did check out several non Unicode fonts.  Many of 
them do not show the "Rx" symbol shaded in the character window, when I 
type in the hex code of "211E".


So it is helpful to have a good, full, Unicode font.  I use Arial 
Unicode.  If you know of a free Unicode font that has near Arial's 
number of symbols and glyphs, I would really like to know.  It would be 
nice to have both a Serif and San-Serif versions.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Writer - special characters

[Dave]

On 07.05.2017 20:59, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> Dave-3 wrote
>> That's interesting. If I try every possible combination of this method
>> with Writer under Win 7, all I get is a lower case x. It this something
>> peculiar to Linux or OSX?
> 
> Added for the 5.1.0 release. It works with all OS, see  tdf#73691
>   , with some
> adjustments for locale.
> 
> Just verified the +x  functions  as intended on Windows 7 sp1  (a Right
> Alt key, will end up as AltGr on some keyboard mappings for some locals, but
> the l-Alt should always work).
> 
> Try with a reset user profile.

Hi Stuart,

Win 7 Ult SP1 - Fully updated.
LO Version: 5.3.2.2 (x64)
Build ID: 6cd4f1ef626f15116896b1d8e1398b56da0d0ee1
CPU Threads: 8; OS Version: Windows 6.1; UI Render: default; Layout
Engine: new;
Locale: en-AU (en_AU); Calc: group
Logitech K320/550 keyboard. No special mappings.


New user profile. Same lower case x result with Right Alt + x

However, for both original and new profiles _LEFT_ Alt + x works.

In other software Right Alt works as expected. Go figure?

Thanks anyway,
Dave
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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Writer - special characters

[V Stuart Foote]

Dave-3 wrote
> That's interesting. If I try every possible combination of this method
> with Writer under Win 7, all I get is a lower case x. It this something
> peculiar to Linux or OSX?

Added for the 5.1.0 release. It works with all OS, see  tdf#73691
  , with some
adjustments for locale.

Just verified the +x  functions  as intended on Windows 7 sp1  (a Right
Alt key, will end up as AltGr on some keyboard mappings for some locals, but
the l-Alt should always work).

Try with a reset user profile.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Writer - special characters

[Dave]

On 07.05.2017 20:01, Philip Jackson wrote:
> On 06/05/17 23:17, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>> Input the character via its Unicode value, and toggle.
>>
>> So, here enter "U+211e" and then use +X to toggle.
> Thank you Stuart for the key to the toggle.  I've wondered how to enter
> unicode characters for a long time. And have tried all the ctrl-shift +U
> stuff suggested so often but with absolutely no success.
>
> Yours is the first time I've seen mention of +X and it works
> for me a treat.  I don't even have to enter the U+ part of the unicode.
> It works with just 211e +X.

That's interesting. If I try every possible combination of this method
with Writer under Win 7, all I get is a lower case x. It this something
peculiar to Linux or OSX?

Dave
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Writer - special characters

[Philip Jackson]

On 06/05/17 23:17, V Stuart Foote wrote:
> Input the character via its Unicode value, and toggle.
> 
> So, here enter "U+211e" and then use +X to toggle.

Thank you Stuart for the key to the toggle.  I've wondered how to enter
unicode characters for a long time. And have tried all the ctrl-shift +U
stuff suggested so often but with absolutely no success.

Yours is the first time I've seen mention of +X and it works
for me a treat.  I don't even have to enter the U+ part of the unicode.
It works with just 211e +X.

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[libreoffice-users] Re: Libre Writer - special characters

[V Stuart Foote]

Input the character via its Unicode value, and toggle.

So, here enter "U+211e" and then use +X to toggle.

A +X anywhere in a document will show the Unicode value for that
character.

Of the fonts installed with LibreOffice,  just DejaVu Sans includes the ℞
(U+211E - Prescription Take) glyph.

In addition to the Unicode toggle mechanism,  LibreOffice provides the
Special Character dialog picker.  For any given font it will show the
"coverage" of the font.  Enhancement at some point should also include
composite font, and identification of font containing a glyph--just not
there yet.   'Til then use another character map program like BableMap to
display coverage and identify fonts with Unicode glyphs.

=-ref-=
http://www.babelstone.co.uk/Software/BabelMap.html





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