[libreoffice-users] Re: List and Combo boxes

2012-06-13 Thread Andreas Säger
The order of row and columns in a database has no meaning. You can get 
any order of rows and columns as needed.
If the visible field is the same as the bound one use the same field for 
both columns:

SELECT "Field", "Field" FROM "Table"


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: List and Combo boxes

2012-06-13 Thread Dan

Alexander Thurgood wrote:

Le 12/06/12 21:08, Dan a écrit :

Hi Dan,


  To populate a list or combo box, I have been using single field
tables. Seems like it should be possible to use a single table for more
than one list or combo box. (The SQL statement for selecting a field for

I'm not sure I understand you correctly :

- do you want Table1.field1 and Table1.field2 to populate respectively
two separate list/combo boxes in your form ?

- or Table1.field1 to populate two separate list/combo boxes,
potentially displaying 2 different values (one for each combo/list box)
from the possible list of entries ?


Alex
Your right, I was talking about two different tables and was not 
clear at all.
 What I do now: for list boxes I create single field tables (the 
field is the primary key and uses VARCHAR as the field type. I have a 
database I use for my budget that contains three similar tables for 
three list boxes. (Budget level 1, Budget level 2, and Budget level 3)
 What I was thinking was to create one table (call it Budget) for 
the three list boxes containing three data fields: Budget 1, Budget 2, 
and Budget 3. With this I would create a fourth field (ID) as the 
primary key with AutoValue set to Yes. Budget 1 is for Budget level 1, etc.
 Probably, the SQL mentioned by Andreas may be all that is 
necessary with this structure. If so, would this also mean that values 
shown in the list Box for Budget level 1 will also appear in reports 
containing Budget level 1. (In the past in a form I have had Budget 
level 1 values coming from Budget 1 of the Budget table while in a 
report, the Budget level 1 values came from ID. I was probably not using 
SQL for this then.)
 Is there a particular order for the fields of the Budget table? 
Perhaps ID should be the first field followed by Budget 1, Budget 2, 
Budget 3?


--Dan


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[libreoffice-users] Re: List and Combo boxes

2012-06-13 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 12/06/12 21:08, Dan a écrit :

Hi Dan,

>  To populate a list or combo box, I have been using single field
> tables. Seems like it should be possible to use a single table for more
> than one list or combo box. (The SQL statement for selecting a field for

I'm not sure I understand you correctly :

- do you want Table1.field1 and Table1.field2 to populate respectively
two separate list/combo boxes in your form ?

- or Table1.field1 to populate two separate list/combo boxes,
potentially displaying 2 different values (one for each combo/list box)
from the possible list of entries ?


Alex


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: List and Combo boxes

2012-06-13 Thread Dan

Dan wrote:

Dan wrote:

Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 12.06.2012 21:08, Dan wrote:
To populate a list or combo box, I have been using single field 
tables.
Seems like it should be possible to use a single table for more 
than one

list or combo box. (The SQL statement for selecting a field for a list
or combo box is: SELECT "field name" FROM "table name".) Has anyone
tried this before? Any problems doing this?

--Dan



In a combo box you "always" want:
SELECT DISTINCT "Field" FROM "Table" ORDER BY "Field"

In a list box you "always" want:
SELECT "Field or Concatenation", "Primary Key"
FROM "Table"
ORDER BY "Field or Concatenation"
Bound field=1
Data field=The form's foreign key

[Example] Relations reflected by list boxes in forms
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=40444 

 OK, I see I was not explicit enough. The tables I use for list 
boxes always contain only ONE field using VCHAR as the field type. 
There are no repetitions in this field, so all values entered are 
DISTINCT.

 The benefits I get from this are:

1) If I enter a new value in the field, close the table, and open it 
again; the entries have rearranged themselves alphabetically.


2) The entries always appear in alphabetically order in the list box 
after clicking the refresh tool in the form.


3)   Field A has been replaced with a list box (i.e., Monday, 
Tuesday, Wednesday) in a form. (The table for this contains one field 
whose values are Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.) When field A 
appears in a report, the only values showing are Monday, Tuesday, and 
Wednesday.
  If I were to use a table having two fields: ID, Day (i.e., 
1,2,3 for ID & Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday for Day); the form has 
shown the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday values while the reports show 1, 
2, 3. Obviously, more has to be included in the SQL than what I wrote 
in the beginning. But with the limiting structure of my tables for 
list boxes do not require anything more.


--Dan

 Perhaps an important point: The field used in the table for the 
list box is also the primary key. This guarantees that the field 
contains DISTINCT values.


--Dan






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: List and Combo boxes

2012-06-13 Thread Dan

Andreas Säger wrote:

Am 12.06.2012 21:08, Dan wrote:

To populate a list or combo box, I have been using single field tables.
Seems like it should be possible to use a single table for more than one
list or combo box. (The SQL statement for selecting a field for a list
or combo box is: SELECT "field name" FROM "table name".) Has anyone
tried this before? Any problems doing this?

--Dan



In a combo box you "always" want:
SELECT DISTINCT "Field" FROM "Table" ORDER BY "Field"

In a list box you "always" want:
SELECT "Field or Concatenation", "Primary Key"
FROM "Table"
ORDER BY "Field or Concatenation"
Bound field=1
Data field=The form's foreign key

[Example] Relations reflected by list boxes in forms

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=40444
 OK, I see I was not explicit enough. The tables I use for list 
boxes always contain only ONE field using VCHAR as the field type. There 
are no repetitions in this field, so all values entered are DISTINCT.

 The benefits I get from this are:

1) If I enter a new value in the field, close the table, and open it 
again; the entries have rearranged themselves alphabetically.


2) The entries always appear in alphabetically order in the list box 
after clicking the refresh tool in the form.


3)   Field A has been replaced with a list box (i.e., Monday, Tuesday, 
Wednesday) in a form. (The table for this contains one field whose 
values are Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.) When field A appears in a 
report, the only values showing are Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.
  If I were to use a table having two fields: ID, Day (i.e., 1,2,3 
for ID & Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday for Day); the form has shown the 
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday values while the reports show 1, 2, 3. 
Obviously, more has to be included in the SQL than what I wrote in the 
beginning. But with the limiting structure of my tables for list boxes 
do not require anything more.


--Dan


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[libreoffice-users] Re: List and Combo boxes

2012-06-13 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 13/06/12 13:50, Andreas Säger a écrit :

Hi Andreas,

> 
> A two minutes test reveals that LibO 3.6(beta) can not use the first
> field (field #0) as bound field.

Thanks for testing, I guess those changes were in cwsdb34 which didn't
make it into LO (for various reasons) :-/


> I "always" sort list box entries by the visible field so I've got to
> write a quick query anyway. If I write  or
> the other way round does not matter at all.

Agreed.

> My receipt "always" works. It gives a pointer to another table's primary
> key which can be selected by typing and picking.

Agreed.

> Contrary to a most simple SQL receipt, the list box wizard is a totally
> unproductive piece of crap. It can not even concatenate fields.

Yes, unfortunately, but it is not the only problem with concatenation
and the built-in SQL parser.



Alex



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[libreoffice-users] Re: List and Combo boxes

2012-06-13 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 13.06.2012 09:56, Alexander Thurgood wrote:


I seem to recall having seen somewhere on the OOo dev lists that it
should now be possible to directly select Bound field=0, and still have
your sorted distinct data on the other data field, or have I muddled
things up ? This was part of the development that went into OOo3.4, but
perhaps it didn't make it into LO ?


Alex




A two minutes test reveals that LibO 3.6(beta) can not use the first 
field (field #0) as bound field.
I "always" sort list box entries by the visible field so I've got to 
write a quick query anyway. If I write  or 
the other way round does not matter at all.
My receipt "always" works. It gives a pointer to another table's primary 
key which can be selected by typing and picking.
Contrary to a most simple SQL receipt, the list box wizard is a totally 
unproductive piece of crap. It can not even concatenate fields.



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[libreoffice-users] Re: List and Combo boxes

2012-06-13 Thread Alexander Thurgood
Le 12/06/12 21:37, Andreas Säger a écrit :

Hi Andreas,


> In a combo box you "always" want:
> SELECT DISTINCT "Field" FROM "Table" ORDER BY "Field"
> 
> In a list box you "always" want:
> SELECT "Field or Concatenation", "Primary Key"
> FROM "Table"
> ORDER BY "Field or Concatenation"
> Bound field=1

I seem to recall having seen somewhere on the OOo dev lists that it
should now be possible to directly select Bound field=0, and still have
your sorted distinct data on the other data field, or have I muddled
things up ? This was part of the development that went into OOo3.4, but
perhaps it didn't make it into LO ?


Alex


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[libreoffice-users] Re: List and Combo boxes

2012-06-12 Thread Andreas Säger

Am 12.06.2012 21:08, Dan wrote:

To populate a list or combo box, I have been using single field tables.
Seems like it should be possible to use a single table for more than one
list or combo box. (The SQL statement for selecting a field for a list
or combo box is: SELECT "field name" FROM "table name".) Has anyone
tried this before? Any problems doing this?

--Dan



In a combo box you "always" want:
SELECT DISTINCT "Field" FROM "Table" ORDER BY "Field"

In a list box you "always" want:
SELECT "Field or Concatenation", "Primary Key"
FROM "Table"
ORDER BY "Field or Concatenation"
Bound field=1
Data field=The form's foreign key

[Example] Relations reflected by list boxes in forms

http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=100&t=40444




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