Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New user to BASE
Hi again Sorry for my tone yday. I appeared to be addressing Alex negatively but in fact i do know he has done and continues to do a lot of hard work to help Base users. There are quite a few people that do and quite a lot more, no doubt, that would give more time if they were able to or if there was a structured team. I don't know how to set-up a team to do something like that. Regards from Tom :) From: Tom Davies To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 12 August, 2011 18:46:06 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New user to BASE Hi :) It would be great to put all that effort into developing Base, or managing the project to attract a few devs into that part of the project. It's not something a single person can do tho. It needs a LOT of people to jump into it. I guess that is why so many people work on various different single-purpose front-ends. There is no management bringing all those people together so each person ends up feeling like they are very alone. Regards from Tom :) From: Alexander Thurgood To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 11 August, 2011 17:01:21 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: New user to BASE Le 11/08/11 15:46, Wayne a écrit : > Would you include Python in that list? > Wayne Sure, any programming language that allows you to build a graphically driven frontend. AFAIK, Python can do that with tcl, wx, gtk, and no doubt other graphical toolkits so why not ? ;-) I actually went scouring for stuff like that the other day on sourceforge because I need to have a frontend I can design, implement and distribute over a network and multiple-OSes. I haven't had time to try the various bits out yet though, most of which looks PHP-based (but only because I have a vague understanding of PHP - my python skills are way too low to attempt something like that at the moment, but I did give it some thought :-)) Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New user to BASE
Hi :) It would be great to put all that effort into developing Base, or managing the project to attract a few devs into that part of the project. It's not something a single person can do tho. It needs a LOT of people to jump into it. I guess that is why so many people work on various different single-purpose front-ends. There is no management bringing all those people together so each person ends up feeling like they are very alone. Regards from Tom :) From: Alexander Thurgood To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 11 August, 2011 17:01:21 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: New user to BASE Le 11/08/11 15:46, Wayne a écrit : > Would you include Python in that list? > Wayne Sure, any programming language that allows you to build a graphically driven frontend. AFAIK, Python can do that with tcl, wx, gtk, and no doubt other graphical toolkits so why not ? ;-) I actually went scouring for stuff like that the other day on sourceforge because I need to have a frontend I can design, implement and distribute over a network and multiple-OSes. I haven't had time to try the various bits out yet though, most of which looks PHP-based (but only because I have a vague understanding of PHP - my python skills are way too low to attempt something like that at the moment, but I did give it some thought :-)) Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New user to BASE
Hi On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 18:01 +0200, Alexander Thurgood wrote: > Le 11/08/11 15:46, Wayne a écrit : > > > Would you include Python in that list? > > Wayne > > Sure, any programming language that allows you to build a graphically > driven frontend. AFAIK, Python can do that with tcl, wx, gtk, and no > doubt other graphical toolkits so why not ? ;-) > > > I actually went scouring for stuff like that the other day on > sourceforge because I need to have a frontend I can design, implement > and distribute over a network and multiple-OSes. I haven't had time to > try the various bits out yet though, most of which looks PHP-based (but > only because I have a vague understanding of PHP - my python skills are > way too low to attempt something like that at the moment, but I did give > it some thought :-)) > > Alex > > You have several options with databases: use Base only, use Base as the front end with another database as the back end, or use another database and hope there are decent graphical tools available. Base only may limit what you can do particularly with network access For Base with another back end you will need to set up the connection in Base and many common options are supported. Using another database completely can be tricky, some do not have nice front end tools. Two that do are MySQL/MariaDB (Linux uses MySQL Workbench) and PostgreSQL (pgadmin). SQLite is another possibility but it does not easily support all the data types that may be in a database. None of these will require any programming but will require varying knowledge of SQL to use effectively. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: New user to BASE
Le 11/08/11 15:46, Wayne a écrit : > Would you include Python in that list? > Wayne Sure, any programming language that allows you to build a graphically driven frontend. AFAIK, Python can do that with tcl, wx, gtk, and no doubt other graphical toolkits so why not ? ;-) I actually went scouring for stuff like that the other day on sourceforge because I need to have a frontend I can design, implement and distribute over a network and multiple-OSes. I haven't had time to try the various bits out yet though, most of which looks PHP-based (but only because I have a vague understanding of PHP - my python skills are way too low to attempt something like that at the moment, but I did give it some thought :-)) Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: New user to BASE
On 08/10/2011 04:50 AM, Alexander Thurgood wrote: Le 07/08/11 03:55, Wayne a écrit : Hi Wayne, A couple of three days ago someone, on this list, mention not to use BASE, as there wasn't much development going on. Their suggestion was to look for a different front end to use. Can someone make a suggestion as to what would be a good alternative to use? No wars please. Just good advice. Thanks LibreOffice Base can do quite a lot, but it requires a fairly steep initial investment once you realise that the wizards are a bit limited, and thus you become reliant on macro programming for the unmet features that would be found in other front end solutions like FMPro or Approach or Access, and dare I say it, the fairly numerous bugs that are now in the source code (and aren't yet being fixed). Having used Approach in the past, I would have to agree with Roland if all you want is to have a db front end that you can use on Linux (via Wine) and Windows. If you want it to provide a front end for Mac as well, then you will be stuck with either LibreOffice Base and a fairly sustantial choice of server backends, or using some other interface design tool for your db such as Ruby, XML forms, PHP, etc. Alex Would you include Python in that list? Wayne -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: New user to BASE
Le 07/08/11 03:55, Wayne a écrit : Hi Wayne, > A couple of three days ago someone, on this list, mention not to use > BASE, as there wasn't much development going on. Their suggestion > was to look for a different front end to use. Can someone make a suggestion > as to what would be a good alternative to use? > No wars please. Just good advice. Thanks LibreOffice Base can do quite a lot, but it requires a fairly steep initial investment once you realise that the wizards are a bit limited, and thus you become reliant on macro programming for the unmet features that would be found in other front end solutions like FMPro or Approach or Access, and dare I say it, the fairly numerous bugs that are now in the source code (and aren't yet being fixed). Having used Approach in the past, I would have to agree with Roland if all you want is to have a db front end that you can use on Linux (via Wine) and Windows. If you want it to provide a front end for Mac as well, then you will be stuck with either LibreOffice Base and a fairly sustantial choice of server backends, or using some other interface design tool for your db such as Ruby, XML forms, PHP, etc. Alex -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
