Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Time-lag response in v. 4.4.0.1 Writer - Update
Hi :) The 4.3.5 is a good choice. That 3rd digit is roughly the equivalent of Microsoft's "Service Packs" but divided by 2, so the x.x.4 is roughly like "Service Pack 2". LibreOffice and many, perhaps most, OpenSource projects work on 2 branches keeping both updated and current. The 'newer' branch (the one with the lower 3rd digit) tends to have more and newer features but because of that, because "you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs", it sometimes suffers unexpected problems or unexpected things go a bit wonky. Hence why the older branch is still actively used and developed. The older branch has less new features which makes it less likely to have unexpected problems suddenly appearing. It gets bug-patches and fixes to fix the problems that may have appeared earlier in the branch's life-cycle. Usually branch's aim to keep producing new releases until it reaches x.x.7 although usually a branch is so solid after x.x.4 that it's decided the x.x.6 is going to be the last release for a branch. So, 4.3.5 should really be "Still", because it's after the x.x.4 of that branch, but a few unusual things seem to have happened over Xmas and we have ended up with 3 active branches. Really that should probably be 2 "Still" branches and 1 "Fresh" but i'm guessing there are still discussions going on about that elsewhere. Anyway, the 4.3.x is a good choice as there are still a couple more releases due in that branch over the next few months so it's very much active. Regards from Tom :) On 10 January 2015 at 09:36, Sun Shine wrote: > Hello Tom > > Thanks for your further thoughts on this. > > As it so happens, I did something else which seems to have fixed the problem > (touch wood). Basically, I uninstalled 4.4 and reinstalled 4.3.5.2 (fresh), > uninstalled the LibO plug in from Mendeley, reinstalled it and took it for a > run. At first, same problem, then after a few minutes (and testing this > problem on another document written previously and with Mendeley references) > the lag stopped. > > I'm tempted to go back to 4.4. but since I need this for production work > (i.e. my thesis), I think I'll stick with this version (4.3.5.2) for now. > > Thanks again. > > All the best > > Sun > > > On 09/01/15 13:33, Tom Davies wrote: >> >> Hi :) >> It might be. >> >> You can test to see if any Extensions/Plug-ins or configurations and >> settings are causing it by renaming your User Profile; >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile >> >> Then when you re-open LibreOffice it automatically creates a fresh new >> one, taking you "Back to factory defaults". If that doesn't fix >> things then you can delete the new one and rename the old one back to >> the right name. >> >> It is often a good idea to create a copy of your user profile when you >> are reasonably happy with the way LibreOffice is working. I tend to >> add the date in reverse order at the end of the file-name to make it >> easier to figure out which backup-copy is likely to be best. >> >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> On 8 January 2015 at 18:21, Sun Shine wrote: >>> >>> Update: >>> >>> Changed the auto-save setting, and that hasn't helped. Closed out all >>> other >>> open documents. No change. >>> >>> I wonder if it is an interaction problem with the LibreOffice Mendeley >>> Plug-In? >>> >>> Does anyone else use Mendeley Desktop reference management software v. >>> 1.12.4 with LibO 4.4.0.1? If so - can this lag be replicated? Not sure >>> if >>> this is a LibO or a Mendeley issue at this point. >>> >>> Thanks for any ideas. >>> >>> Sun >>> >>> >>> >>> On 08/01/15 17:43, Sun Shine wrote: Thanks all - I've changed the auto-save time and will see if that has any effect. Best wishes Sun On 08/01/15 17:35, Tom Davies wrote: > > Hi :) > > Tools - Options - "Load/Save" - General > > Then about half-way down the default is to save every 15mins. You > might find it helps to make it half-hourly or so. > Good luck and regards from > Tom :) > > > > On 8 January 2015 at 15:17, Rob Jasper wrote: >> >> Now you mention it.. I've had this both on my slow PC and on my Mac. >> However, I now realize that since I changed my disk for a SSD I never >> had it again (even while working on a very old Mac: 24 ", end 2006, >> 2,16 GHz >> Intel Core 2 Duo) >> Rob >> >> Op 8 jan. 2015, om 16:09 heeft Oogie McGuire het volgende geschreven: >> >>> It might be due to how often LO is doing a backup of your text. With >>> a >>> large document it can take a while. I've had that happen to me too on >>> all >>> revisions of LO on a Mac with large documents. I just got used to it. >>> I >>> figured I'd use it as a way to take a break, look away from the >>> screen and >>> stretch my fingers. >>> >>> Perhaps there is a setting you can change to make the timing >>> different >>
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Time-lag response in v. 4.4.0.1 Writer - Update
Hello Tom Thanks for your further thoughts on this. As it so happens, I did something else which seems to have fixed the problem (touch wood). Basically, I uninstalled 4.4 and reinstalled 4.3.5.2 (fresh), uninstalled the LibO plug in from Mendeley, reinstalled it and took it for a run. At first, same problem, then after a few minutes (and testing this problem on another document written previously and with Mendeley references) the lag stopped. I'm tempted to go back to 4.4. but since I need this for production work (i.e. my thesis), I think I'll stick with this version (4.3.5.2) for now. Thanks again. All the best Sun On 09/01/15 13:33, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) It might be. You can test to see if any Extensions/Plug-ins or configurations and settings are causing it by renaming your User Profile; https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Then when you re-open LibreOffice it automatically creates a fresh new one, taking you "Back to factory defaults". If that doesn't fix things then you can delete the new one and rename the old one back to the right name. It is often a good idea to create a copy of your user profile when you are reasonably happy with the way LibreOffice is working. I tend to add the date in reverse order at the end of the file-name to make it easier to figure out which backup-copy is likely to be best. Regards from Tom :) On 8 January 2015 at 18:21, Sun Shine wrote: Update: Changed the auto-save setting, and that hasn't helped. Closed out all other open documents. No change. I wonder if it is an interaction problem with the LibreOffice Mendeley Plug-In? Does anyone else use Mendeley Desktop reference management software v. 1.12.4 with LibO 4.4.0.1? If so - can this lag be replicated? Not sure if this is a LibO or a Mendeley issue at this point. Thanks for any ideas. Sun On 08/01/15 17:43, Sun Shine wrote: Thanks all - I've changed the auto-save time and will see if that has any effect. Best wishes Sun On 08/01/15 17:35, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Tools - Options - "Load/Save" - General Then about half-way down the default is to save every 15mins. You might find it helps to make it half-hourly or so. Good luck and regards from Tom :) On 8 January 2015 at 15:17, Rob Jasper wrote: Now you mention it.. I've had this both on my slow PC and on my Mac. However, I now realize that since I changed my disk for a SSD I never had it again (even while working on a very old Mac: 24 ", end 2006, 2,16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo) Rob Op 8 jan. 2015, om 16:09 heeft Oogie McGuire het volgende geschreven: It might be due to how often LO is doing a backup of your text. With a large document it can take a while. I've had that happen to me too on all revisions of LO on a Mac with large documents. I just got used to it. I figured I'd use it as a way to take a break, look away from the screen and stretch my fingers. Perhaps there is a setting you can change to make the timing different or turn it off? I don't know abut that I never bothered to look for it. I've used the emergency recovery feature too often to turn off the automatic saving that happens occasionally. Eugenie (Oogie) McGuire Desert Weyr, LLC - Black Welsh Mountain Sheep http://www.desertweyr.com/ LambTracker - Open Source SW for Shepherds http://www.lambtracker.com Paonia, CO USA -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Time-lag response in v. 4.4.0.1 Writer - Update
Hi :) It might be. You can test to see if any Extensions/Plug-ins or configurations and settings are causing it by renaming your User Profile; https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile Then when you re-open LibreOffice it automatically creates a fresh new one, taking you "Back to factory defaults". If that doesn't fix things then you can delete the new one and rename the old one back to the right name. It is often a good idea to create a copy of your user profile when you are reasonably happy with the way LibreOffice is working. I tend to add the date in reverse order at the end of the file-name to make it easier to figure out which backup-copy is likely to be best. Regards from Tom :) On 8 January 2015 at 18:21, Sun Shine wrote: > Update: > > Changed the auto-save setting, and that hasn't helped. Closed out all other > open documents. No change. > > I wonder if it is an interaction problem with the LibreOffice Mendeley > Plug-In? > > Does anyone else use Mendeley Desktop reference management software v. > 1.12.4 with LibO 4.4.0.1? If so - can this lag be replicated? Not sure if > this is a LibO or a Mendeley issue at this point. > > Thanks for any ideas. > > Sun > > > > On 08/01/15 17:43, Sun Shine wrote: >> >> Thanks all - I've changed the auto-save time and will see if that has any >> effect. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Sun >> >> On 08/01/15 17:35, Tom Davies wrote: >>> >>> Hi :) >>> >>> Tools - Options - "Load/Save" - General >>> >>> Then about half-way down the default is to save every 15mins. You >>> might find it helps to make it half-hourly or so. >>> Good luck and regards from >>> Tom :) >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 January 2015 at 15:17, Rob Jasper wrote: Now you mention it.. I've had this both on my slow PC and on my Mac. However, I now realize that since I changed my disk for a SSD I never had it again (even while working on a very old Mac: 24 ", end 2006, 2,16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo) Rob Op 8 jan. 2015, om 16:09 heeft Oogie McGuire het volgende geschreven: > It might be due to how often LO is doing a backup of your text. With a > large document it can take a while. I've had that happen to me too on all > revisions of LO on a Mac with large documents. I just got used to it. I > figured I'd use it as a way to take a break, look away from the screen > and > stretch my fingers. > > Perhaps there is a setting you can change to make the timing different > or turn it off? I don't know abut that I never bothered to look for it. > I've > used the emergency recovery feature too often to turn off the automatic > saving that happens occasionally. > > > Eugenie (Oogie) McGuire > Desert Weyr, LLC - Black Welsh Mountain Sheep > http://www.desertweyr.com/ > LambTracker - Open Source SW for Shepherds http://www.lambtracker.com > Paonia, CO USA > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted >> > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] Re: Time-lag response in v. 4.4.0.1 Writer - Update
Update: Changed the auto-save setting, and that hasn't helped. Closed out all other open documents. No change. I wonder if it is an interaction problem with the LibreOffice Mendeley Plug-In? Does anyone else use Mendeley Desktop reference management software v. 1.12.4 with LibO 4.4.0.1? If so - can this lag be replicated? Not sure if this is a LibO or a Mendeley issue at this point. Thanks for any ideas. Sun On 08/01/15 17:43, Sun Shine wrote: Thanks all - I've changed the auto-save time and will see if that has any effect. Best wishes Sun On 08/01/15 17:35, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Tools - Options - "Load/Save" - General Then about half-way down the default is to save every 15mins. You might find it helps to make it half-hourly or so. Good luck and regards from Tom :) On 8 January 2015 at 15:17, Rob Jasper wrote: Now you mention it.. I've had this both on my slow PC and on my Mac. However, I now realize that since I changed my disk for a SSD I never had it again (even while working on a very old Mac: 24 ", end 2006, 2,16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo) Rob Op 8 jan. 2015, om 16:09 heeft Oogie McGuire het volgende geschreven: It might be due to how often LO is doing a backup of your text. With a large document it can take a while. I've had that happen to me too on all revisions of LO on a Mac with large documents. I just got used to it. I figured I'd use it as a way to take a break, look away from the screen and stretch my fingers. Perhaps there is a setting you can change to make the timing different or turn it off? I don't know abut that I never bothered to look for it. I've used the emergency recovery feature too often to turn off the automatic saving that happens occasionally. Eugenie (Oogie) McGuire Desert Weyr, LLC - Black Welsh Mountain Sheep http://www.desertweyr.com/ LambTracker - Open Source SW for Shepherds http://www.lambtracker.com Paonia, CO USA -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
