Re: [libreoffice-users] Rotating labels to landscape

2023-02-17 Thread Steve Edmonds

Are you inserting data into fields or is it just text and may be an image.
If the latter you can keep the page portrait and just rotate the 
text/image 90 degrees. To rotate the text put it in a text box and 
rotate the box.

Steve

On 12/02/2023 15:52, Roderick Anderson wrote:



On 2/11/23 11:21, John Kaufmann wrote:

On 2023-02-11 13:28, Roderick Anderson wrote:

...
I have a need to create some 3X5 index cards with the content 
oriented along the 3" axis.
I'm having no joy rotation the label form (Avery 5388) to landscape. 
...


Trying to understand what you want to do that, I looked at Avery 
5388, which has 3 3"x5" cards (labels, for form purposes) arranged 
(landscape) vertically on what appears to be an 8.5"x11" (portrait) 
card sheet, with unused borders on that sheet of 1" top/bottom, 1.75" 
left/right. Correct?


And you want to treat each card/label as if it were in portrait 
orientation for text purposes? 


Yes. This is what I want to do.

If so, there are different ways to accomplish that, but before going 
further please confirm or correct that understanding (no point giving 
answers to the wrong question).


John


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rotating labels to landscape

2023-02-13 Thread John Kaufmann

Hi Michael,

On 2023-02-12 15:32, Michael H wrote:

I don't understand why you would not use a 4 card (2x2) to 1 letter or a4
page layout instead of a 3x1 layout. It seems a waste of material to me. ...


I don't disagree, but it's a matter of context: Rod asked a LibreOffice 
question in a LibreOffice forum, so I gave a LibreOffice answer. I respect your 
effort to widen the context [like you, I'm also dedicated to maximizing 
efficiency and minimizing waste], and the same thought occurred to me at the 
time, but did not widen the context for a few reasons:
(1) Rod asked about a specific form, so he already had his form.
(2) When/If Rod runs out of Avery 5388, he can revisit his choice of form ... but 
I don't know of a cardstock form of 3"x5" cards arranged 2x2. Do you?
(3) A 1x3 format uses 48% of a letter-size (8.5x11) sheet, while a 2x2 
format uses 64% -- a welcome improvement, but (a) obviously neither is great in 
that context, and (b) the 1x3 format may be more efficient in non-material 
ways, such as the presentation on his screen.

IOW, the most efficient choice may not be knowable to us without a lot more 
information and context.

John

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rotating labels to landscape

2023-02-12 Thread Michael H
I don't understand why you would not use a 4 card (2x2) to 1 letter or a4
page layout instead of a 3x1 layout. It seems a waste of material to me.

2x2 in portrait mode letter or a4 page = 4 Qty, 3x5 portrait when cut.

Those 1x3 layouts were about continuous feed dot matrix printers with
fanfold, pinhole edge paper. Even though the label layout survived into
sheet feeder laser and inkjet printer era... the original reason to do 1x3
for 3x5 cards is gone. With the 1 wide layout you could print 1 at a time
and remove the label or card individually.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rotating labels to landscape

2023-02-12 Thread Roderick Anderson

On 2/11/23 22:33, John Kaufmann wrote:



OK, then, lets start with the simplest way (easy as 1-2-3, literally):

(1) Forget the label template.


Good.  I got myself so wrapped in using the Avery stock I didn't think 
it through.




(2) Treat the card sheet in landscape mode (which puts the cards in 
portrait mode) by defining your page (either Format the Default Page 
Style or define a new "Index Cards" style from the Default Page Style): 
With either the new or Default Page Style, go to the Page tab and define 
it with Format=Letter, Orientation=Landscape, with margins L=1", R=1", 
T=1.75", B=1.75", then OK.


(3a) Now define a 3-column/1-row table (which will automatically be set 
to three 3"-wide columns; if not, you can make it so).

(3b) Set the table's row height (Table>Size>Row height) to 5".
(3c) Set the table's borders (Table>Properties>Borders tab) as you like. 
I'd suggest no lines, but you may want non-zero padding.


Now you're ready to go -- and because the page/sheet is in Landscape 
mode, you have all three cards on your computer screen, at maximum size 
for maximum convenience.


Perfect.


Thanks,
Rod
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Variation on this approach: You could substitute three 3"x5" frames for 
the three-column table; same idea, just slightly more work.


Hope that helps,
John



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rotating labels to landscape

2023-02-11 Thread John Kaufmann

Hi Rod,

On 2023-02-11 21:52, Roderick Anderson wrote:

On 2/11/23 11:21, John Kaufmann wrote:

On 2023-02-11 13:28, Roderick Anderson wrote:

...
I have a need to create some 3X5 index cards with the content oriented along the 
3" axis.
I'm having no joy rotation the label form (Avery 5388) to landscape. ...


Trying to understand what you want to do that, I looked at Avery 5388, which has 3 3"x5" cards 
(labels, for form purposes) arranged (landscape) vertically on what appears to be an 8.5"x11" 
(portrait) card sheet, with unused borders on that sheet of 1" top/bottom, 1.75" left/right. 
Correct?

And you want to treat each card/label as if it were in portrait orientation for text purposes? 


Yes. This is what I want to do.


OK, then, lets start with the simplest way (easy as 1-2-3, literally):

(1) Forget the label template.

(2) Treat the card sheet in landscape mode (which puts the cards in portrait mode) by defining your page 
(either Format the Default Page Style or define a new "Index Cards" style from the Default Page 
Style): With either the new or Default Page Style, go to the Page tab and define it with Format=Letter, 
Orientation=Landscape, with margins L=1", R=1", T=1.75", B=1.75", then OK.

(3a) Now define a 3-column/1-row table (which will automatically be set to three 
3"-wide columns; if not, you can make it so).
(3b) Set the table's row height (Table>Size>Row height) to 5".
(3c) Set the table's borders (Table>Properties>Borders tab) as you like. I'd 
suggest no lines, but you may want non-zero padding.

Now you're ready to go -- and because the page/sheet is in Landscape mode, you 
have all three cards on your computer screen, at maximum size for maximum 
convenience.

Variation on this approach: You could substitute three 3"x5" frames for the 
three-column table; same idea, just slightly more work.

Hope that helps,
John

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rotating labels to landscape

2023-02-11 Thread Roderick Anderson



On 2/11/23 11:21, John Kaufmann wrote:

On 2023-02-11 13:28, Roderick Anderson wrote:

...
I have a need to create some 3X5 index cards with the content oriented 
along the 3" axis.

I'm having no joy rotation the label form (Avery 5388) to landscape. ...


Trying to understand what you want to do that, I looked at Avery 5388, 
which has 3 3"x5" cards (labels, for form purposes) arranged (landscape) 
vertically on what appears to be an 8.5"x11" (portrait) card sheet, with 
unused borders on that sheet of 1" top/bottom, 1.75" left/right. Correct?


And you want to treat each card/label as if it were in portrait 
orientation for text purposes? 


Yes. This is what I want to do.

If so, there are different ways to 
accomplish that, but before going further please confirm or correct that 
understanding (no point giving answers to the wrong question).


John


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Rotating labels to landscape

2023-02-11 Thread John Kaufmann

On 2023-02-11 13:28, Roderick Anderson wrote:

...
I have a need to create some 3X5 index cards with the content oriented along the 
3" axis.
I'm having no joy rotation the label form (Avery 5388) to landscape. ...


Trying to understand what you want to do that, I looked at Avery 5388, which has 3 3"x5" cards 
(labels, for form purposes) arranged (landscape) vertically on what appears to be an 8.5"x11" 
(portrait) card sheet, with unused borders on that sheet of 1" top/bottom, 1.75" left/right. 
Correct?

And you want to treat each card/label as if it were in portrait orientation for 
text purposes?  If so, there are different ways to accomplish that, but before 
going further please confirm or correct that understanding (no point giving 
answers to the wrong question).

John

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[libreoffice-users] Rotating labels to landscape

2023-02-11 Thread Roderick Anderson

Good morning all.

I have a need to create some 3X5 index cards with the content oriented 
along the 3" axis.


I'm having no joy rotation the label form (Avery 5388) to landscape.

Impossible mission?  Should I create a custom label?


TIA,
Rod
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