Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread Ruth Ann

Oh, so now I think I understand.
As I said in a previous post, I have just been creating duplicate 
calendars on both Google and Lightening.
So - my two tabs for Calendar (local) and Google Calendar (Google) each 
show just "their" calendars, which happen to be pretty much the same 
since I have been making dual entries.


To make my life easier and just need one entry per event, I can close 
the Google Calendar tab and just use the Lightening Calendar tab if I 
create a network calendar in the Lightening Calendar tab and give it my 
Google address - which should then make it a Google calendar.
THAT is why the instructions for the Provider add-on described how to 
find the Google calendar URL !

OK, now I think I understand.
Before I can change to just the one tab though I guess I need to 
re-think how I organize my calendars. That should not be too difficult.

Thank you for explaining.
Ruth Ann, Cincinnati, OH USA

On 10/1/2013 11:21 AM, James Knott wrote:

Ruth Ann wrote:

I have been using Lightening and Google both for a long time.
In the past, I have always just made separate entries in both
calendars - synchronized them manually so to speak.
So, I have always had a "Calendar" tab next to my email tab in
Thunderbird. Then last night, when I installed the Provider add-on, I
got a third tab that says "Google Calendar" and shows all the events
from my Google calendars.
It looks like it belongs there. Are you saying that I should just have
the one "calendar" tab?

Yes.  Installing Lightning enables the calendar tab.  After installing
the provider, I was then able to add the Google calendars to that tab.
So, when I look at Thunderbird, I see a tab for email and one for
calendar.  When I go to the calendar tab, I see the 2 Google calenars I
use listed on the left side, below the month calendar.  I can add as
many different calendars as I wan't, including a local one there.  To
create a new calendar, I just right click in the area at the left and
select new calendar and I go from there.






--
Ruth Ann Stewart, Cincinnati, OH
dba Cameo Canine
www.CameoCanine.com
came...@gmail.com

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong
You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and 
independence.
You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for 
themselves.

~William J. H. Boetcker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread James Knott
Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> Is that 
> http://www.sogo.nu/english.html

No, nothing to do with it.  This is Google calendar in Thunderbird.
>
> I might be interested in trying to get that working in a couple of weeks but 
> first need to see some screen-shots and stuff so i will hunt around their 
> site later.  So far i have been stuck on trying to get Evolution to work 
> because it's practically a drop-in replacement for Outlook but unfortunately 
> i got into a big row on their forum/mailing list.  
> Thanks and regards form 
> Tom :)  
>


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I really like the sound of all that.  Really tightly integrated and that 
'should' make it much easier for my colleagues to understand.  Hopefully even 
easier than outlook which is looking more and ore clunky compared to what you 
are describing.  

I've only just about got Evolution working but might switch over to what you 
describe in a couple of weeks.  The one or 2 bits i am having trouble with in 
Evo are things i can't ask about on their lists anymore.  I really shot myself 
in the foot over there! :(  

Regards from
Tom :)  




- Original Message -
From: James Knott 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 14:02
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to 
| Thunderbird

Ruth Ann wrote:
> I am curious as to how the Provider works.
> Thank you for telling us about it.
> I installed Provider in Thunderbird last night and see that I now have
> a tab for Google Calendar next to my tab for Lightening.
> My Google calendars display, and I was able to add an event to Google
> calendar from the Thunderbird window, but it is not showing up in the
> Thunderbird/Lightening calendar. The "synchronize" button is now
> active on the Lightening tab, but nothing seems to happen when I click
> it.
>
> So I guess what I am asking is does the Provider add-on just let me
> see/update Google Calendar in a tab in the Thunderbird window, or is
> there a way to use it to synchronize the Google calendars with the
> Lightening calendars?

I'm not sure how you got that.  I have a calendar tab next to the tab. 
The calendar shows my own personal Google calendar, along with that for
a group I belong to.  I don't have a separate "Google Calendar" tab. 
Lightning syncs with both my own and the group calendar.  I'm not sure
what you did wrong.  Perhaps the best thing to do would be to remove the
provider & Lightning and start over.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread James Knott
Ruth Ann wrote:
> I have been using Lightening and Google both for a long time.
> In the past, I have always just made separate entries in both
> calendars - synchronized them manually so to speak.
> So, I have always had a "Calendar" tab next to my email tab in
> Thunderbird. Then last night, when I installed the Provider add-on, I
> got a third tab that says "Google Calendar" and shows all the events
> from my Google calendars.
> It looks like it belongs there. Are you saying that I should just have
> the one "calendar" tab?

Yes.  Installing Lightning enables the calendar tab.  After installing
the provider, I was then able to add the Google calendars to that tab. 
So, when I look at Thunderbird, I see a tab for email and one for
calendar.  When I go to the calendar tab, I see the 2 Google calenars I
use listed on the left side, below the month calendar.  I can add as
many different calendars as I wan't, including a local one there.  To
create a new calendar, I just right click in the area at the left and
select new calendar and I go from there.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread Ruth Ann

On 10/1/2013 9:02 AM, James Knott wrote:

I'm not sure how you got that.  I have a calendar tab next to the tab.
The calendar shows my own personal Google calendar, along with that for
a group I belong to.  I don't have a separate "Google Calendar" tab.
Lightning syncs with both my own and the group calendar.  I'm not sure
what you did wrong.  Perhaps the best thing to do would be to remove the
provider & Lightning and start over.

I have been using Lightening and Google both for a long time.
In the past, I have always just made separate entries in both calendars 
- synchronized them manually so to speak.
So, I have always had a "Calendar" tab next to my email tab in 
Thunderbird. Then last night, when I installed the Provider add-on, I 
got a third tab that says "Google Calendar" and shows all the events 
from my Google calendars.
It looks like it belongs there. Are you saying that I should just have 
the one "calendar" tab?

Ruth Ann, Cincinnati, OH USA

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dba Cameo Canine
www.CameoCanine.com
came...@gmail.com

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong
You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and 
independence.
You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for 
themselves.

~William J. H. Boetcker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread James Knott
Ruth Ann wrote:
> I am curious as to how the Provider works.
> Thank you for telling us about it.
> I installed Provider in Thunderbird last night and see that I now have
> a tab for Google Calendar next to my tab for Lightening.
> My Google calendars display, and I was able to add an event to Google
> calendar from the Thunderbird window, but it is not showing up in the
> Thunderbird/Lightening calendar. The "synchronize" button is now
> active on the Lightening tab, but nothing seems to happen when I click
> it.
>
> So I guess what I am asking is does the Provider add-on just let me
> see/update Google Calendar in a tab in the Thunderbird window, or is
> there a way to use it to synchronize the Google calendars with the
> Lightening calendars?

I'm not sure how you got that.  I have a calendar tab next to the tab. 
The calendar shows my own personal Google calendar, along with that for
a group I belong to.  I don't have a separate "Google Calendar" tab. 
Lightning syncs with both my own and the group calendar.  I'm not sure
what you did wrong.  Perhaps the best thing to do would be to remove the
provider & Lightning and start over.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread Ruth Ann

I am curious as to how the Provider works.
Thank you for telling us about it.
I installed Provider in Thunderbird last night and see that I now have a 
tab for Google Calendar next to my tab for Lightening.
My Google calendars display, and I was able to add an event to Google 
calendar from the Thunderbird window, but it is not showing up in the 
Thunderbird/Lightening calendar. The "synchronize" button is now active 
on the Lightening tab, but nothing seems to happen when I click it.


So I guess what I am asking is does the Provider add-on just let me 
see/update Google Calendar in a tab in the Thunderbird window, or is 
there a way to use it to synchronize the Google calendars with the 
Lightening calendars?

Ruth Ann, Cincinnati, OH USA

On 10/1/2013 5:48 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2013-09-30 1:45 PM, James Knott  wrote:

Occasionally on this list, someone asks about open source email &
calendar that can be used with LibreOffice.  Here are instructions for
using Google Calendar with Thunderbird.  You can use the Thunderbird
Add-Ons manager to install both Lightning and "Provider for Google
Calendar", instead of going to a web site and downloading the package.
This also works with the email program in Seamonkey, but Thunderbird
works better with LO.

https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/using-lightning-google-calendar 



Just be aware that it isn't perfect.

The main problem is working with invitations from others.

If someone sends  you an invite, yes, you can accept it and it gets 
added to your calendar.


But, if that same someone then sends an UPDATE to the existing event, 
and you UPDATE it, it spams ALL of the attendees with a BRAND NEW 
invite from YOU for the new/updated event.


It is basically non workable in a corporate environment.

This is why we are currently working on getting SOGo set up locally. 
If you are technically inclined, while more work, it is a MUCH better 
way to go if you are using the Calendar for anything other than 
personal use.


For personal use, it works well, although it still has issues 
occasionally...





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dba Cameo Canine
www.CameoCanine.com
came...@gmail.com

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong
You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and 
independence.
You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for 
themselves.

~William J. H. Boetcker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Is that 
http://www.sogo.nu/english.html


I might be interested in trying to get that working in a couple of weeks but 
first need to see some screen-shots and stuff so i will hunt around their site 
later.  So far i have been stuck on trying to get Evolution to work because 
it's practically a drop-in replacement for Outlook but unfortunately i got into 
a big row on their forum/mailing list.  
Thanks and regards form 
Tom :)  



- Original Message -
From: Tanstaafl 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, 1 October 2013, 10:48
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to 
| Thunderbird

On 2013-09-30 1:45 PM, James Knott  wrote:
> Occasionally on this list, someone asks about open source email &
> calendar that can be used with LibreOffice.  Here are instructions for
> using Google Calendar with Thunderbird.  You can use the Thunderbird
> Add-Ons manager to install both Lightning and "Provider for Google
> Calendar", instead of going to a web site and downloading the package.
> This also works with the email program in Seamonkey, but Thunderbird
> works better with LO.
>
> https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/using-lightning-google-calendar

Just be aware that it isn't perfect.

The main problem is working with invitations from others.

If someone sends  you an invite, yes, you can accept it and it gets 
added to your calendar.

But, if that same someone then sends an UPDATE to the existing event, 
and you UPDATE it, it spams ALL of the attendees with a BRAND NEW invite 
from YOU for the new/updated event.

It is basically non workable in a corporate environment.

This is why we are currently working on getting SOGo set up locally. If 
you are technically inclined, while more work, it is a MUCH better way 
to go if you are using the Calendar for anything other than personal use.

For personal use, it works well, although it still has issues 
occasionally...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-10-01 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-09-30 1:45 PM, James Knott  wrote:

Occasionally on this list, someone asks about open source email &
calendar that can be used with LibreOffice.  Here are instructions for
using Google Calendar with Thunderbird.  You can use the Thunderbird
Add-Ons manager to install both Lightning and "Provider for Google
Calendar", instead of going to a web site and downloading the package.
This also works with the email program in Seamonkey, but Thunderbird
works better with LO.

https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/using-lightning-google-calendar


Just be aware that it isn't perfect.

The main problem is working with invitations from others.

If someone sends  you an invite, yes, you can accept it and it gets 
added to your calendar.


But, if that same someone then sends an UPDATE to the existing event, 
and you UPDATE it, it spams ALL of the attendees with a BRAND NEW invite 
from YOU for the new/updated event.


It is basically non workable in a corporate environment.

This is why we are currently working on getting SOGo set up locally. If 
you are technically inclined, while more work, it is a MUCH better way 
to go if you are using the Calendar for anything other than personal use.


For personal use, it works well, although it still has issues 
occasionally...


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[libreoffice-users] Using Lightning with Google Calendar | How to | Thunderbird

2013-09-30 Thread James Knott
Occasionally on this list, someone asks about open source email &
calendar that can be used with LibreOffice.  Here are instructions for
using Google Calendar with Thunderbird.  You can use the Thunderbird
Add-Ons manager to install both Lightning and "Provider for Google
Calendar", instead of going to a web site and downloading the package.
This also works with the email program in Seamonkey, but Thunderbird
works better with LO.

https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/using-lightning-google-calendar


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