Re: [libreoffice-users] Verified fatal error

2017-02-16 Thread John R. Sowden 
I forked my diagnostic procedure.  I decided instead to delete all data 
from the lines, about 10 columns, with about 5 with formulas, where I 
was having the crash..  Then, I deleted the lines of empty cells.  Got 
the same crash.  Then I only deleted the 10 columns, shifting the other 
cells up.  I worked.  So I did not solved the problem, only the 
symptom.   Hopefully someone aware of the Java source code will have 
read all of this and knew what had happened, and maybe made a correction 
for future versions.


John


On 02/16/2017 05:28 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:

On Sat Feb 04 2017 21:48:49 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time), John R.
Sowden  wrote:

Haven't tested by turning autocalc back on.

Why not?





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Verified fatal error

2017-02-16 Thread Tanstaafl 
On Sat Feb 04 2017 21:48:49 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time), John R.
Sowden  wrote:
> Haven't tested by turning autocalc back on.

Why not?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Verified fatal error

2017-02-05 Thread John R. Sowden 

Thanks for the feedback.  I'll give it a try.

John


On 02/05/2017 04:30 AM, Bruce Hohl wrote:

This is not really an answer but ... sometimes I have a problem with my
Windows PC at work, and the IT person confirms the problem, but trouble
shooting the problem will take longer than reinstalling ... so by analogy I
suggest you rebuild the spreadsheet starting with File > New >
Spreadsheet.  Bring all you data and formulas into the new spreadsheet by
Edit > Paste Special without Formats or Objects.  Better yet just Paste
Special "Values" (Text, Numbers, Date & Time) and recreate the formulas.
Copy & Paste Special selected blocks of cell never entire columns.
Recreate ALL formatting in the new spreadsheet.  End by saving in ODS
format.  I know this might seem like overkill but sometimes particular
spreadsheets "acquire" unique problems which are most easily resolved with
a rebuild (reinstall).  Consider it an opportunity to improve the worksheet
with better functions available more clear layout & formatting.



On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 9:48 PM, John R. Sowden 
wrote:


Why has my message regarding a "Fatal Error" as indicated by LibreOffice,
not been responded to?

I have done a further test to find that even if I perform an F9 AND a
save, it still crashes.  This seemed to have started when I turned off
"auto calc".  Haven't tested by turning autocalc back on.

John



On 02/02/2017 07:14 PM, John R. Sowden wrote:


I have a 5 page spreadsheet, one page that gets used ofter, the others
are not used much.  Page 2 is a chart of accounts that a column in page 1
refers to often.  Page 1 is about 400 lines long, maybe 10 columns wide.
There is a date column, but I do not do date math, and no other cells refer
to the date column.  That said, after December, through April (FY),
entering data takes about 30 seconds per cell (a long time in computer
years).  The solution I received from this list was to turn off all
formatting (font, bold, not much more).  That was unacceptable, so recently
I tried turning off auto-calc, requiring I use F9 to recalc the sheet after
additions/changes.  It didn't help much.  And, in the process, I found the
following.

On to the "verified fatal error":
I have a group of about 10 lines that I want to delete.
Lines above and below are referenced in page 3.
I select and delete the lines and get the following fatal error:
(three times (verified))
  Fatal Error (title in a window)
  multi_type_vector::position#1321:block position not found!
  (logical pos=4294967275, block size=9. logical size=1048575)

I had 5 sheets open, all 5 were damaged, and all 5 were recovered upon
reentry.

Ubuntu 16.04 and LO version 5.1.4

What I have not tried is to F9 and/or save before the delete.

John




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Verified fatal error

2017-02-05 Thread Bruce Hohl 
This is not really an answer but ... sometimes I have a problem with my
Windows PC at work, and the IT person confirms the problem, but trouble
shooting the problem will take longer than reinstalling ... so by analogy I
suggest you rebuild the spreadsheet starting with File > New >
Spreadsheet.  Bring all you data and formulas into the new spreadsheet by
Edit > Paste Special without Formats or Objects.  Better yet just Paste
Special "Values" (Text, Numbers, Date & Time) and recreate the formulas.
Copy & Paste Special selected blocks of cell never entire columns.
Recreate ALL formatting in the new spreadsheet.  End by saving in ODS
format.  I know this might seem like overkill but sometimes particular
spreadsheets "acquire" unique problems which are most easily resolved with
a rebuild (reinstall).  Consider it an opportunity to improve the worksheet
with better functions available more clear layout & formatting.



On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 9:48 PM, John R. Sowden 
wrote:

> Why has my message regarding a "Fatal Error" as indicated by LibreOffice,
> not been responded to?
>
> I have done a further test to find that even if I perform an F9 AND a
> save, it still crashes.  This seemed to have started when I turned off
> "auto calc".  Haven't tested by turning autocalc back on.
>
> John
>
>
>
> On 02/02/2017 07:14 PM, John R. Sowden wrote:
>
>> I have a 5 page spreadsheet, one page that gets used ofter, the others
>> are not used much.  Page 2 is a chart of accounts that a column in page 1
>> refers to often.  Page 1 is about 400 lines long, maybe 10 columns wide.
>> There is a date column, but I do not do date math, and no other cells refer
>> to the date column.  That said, after December, through April (FY),
>> entering data takes about 30 seconds per cell (a long time in computer
>> years).  The solution I received from this list was to turn off all
>> formatting (font, bold, not much more).  That was unacceptable, so recently
>> I tried turning off auto-calc, requiring I use F9 to recalc the sheet after
>> additions/changes.  It didn't help much.  And, in the process, I found the
>> following.
>>
>> On to the "verified fatal error":
>>I have a group of about 10 lines that I want to delete.
>>Lines above and below are referenced in page 3.
>>I select and delete the lines and get the following fatal error:
>> (three times (verified))
>>  Fatal Error (title in a window)
>>  multi_type_vector::position#1321:block position not found!
>>  (logical pos=4294967275, block size=9. logical size=1048575)
>>
>> I had 5 sheets open, all 5 were damaged, and all 5 were recovered upon
>> reentry.
>>
>> Ubuntu 16.04 and LO version 5.1.4
>>
>> What I have not tried is to F9 and/or save before the delete.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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[libreoffice-users] Verified fatal error

2017-02-02 Thread John R. Sowden 
I have a 5 page spreadsheet, one page that gets used ofter, the others 
are not used much.  Page 2 is a chart of accounts that a column in page 
1 refers to often.  Page 1 is about 400 lines long, maybe 10 columns 
wide.  There is a date column, but I do not do date math, and no other 
cells refer to the date column.  That said, after December, through 
April (FY), entering data takes about 30 seconds per cell (a long time 
in computer years).  The solution I received from this list was to turn 
off all formatting (font, bold, not much more).  That was unacceptable, 
so recently I tried turning off auto-calc, requiring I use F9 to recalc 
the sheet after additions/changes.  It didn't help much.  And, in the 
process, I found the following.


On to the "verified fatal error":
   I have a group of about 10 lines that I want to delete.
   Lines above and below are referenced in page 3.
   I select and delete the lines and get the following fatal error:  
(three times (verified))

 Fatal Error (title in a window)
 multi_type_vector::position#1321:block position not found!
 (logical pos=4294967275, block size=9. logical size=1048575)

I had 5 sheets open, all 5 were damaged, and all 5 were recovered upon 
reentry.


Ubuntu 16.04 and LO version 5.1.4

What I have not tried is to F9 and/or save before the delete.

John


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[libreoffice-users] Verified fatal error

2017-02-02 Thread John R. Sowden 
I have a 5 page spreadsheet, one page that gets used ofter, the others 
are not used much.  Page 2 is a chart of accounts that a column in page 
1 refers to often.  Page 1 is about 400 lines long, maybe 10 columns 
wide.  There is a date column, but I do not do date math, and no other 
cells refer to the date column.  That said, after December, through 
April (FY), entering data takes about 30 seconds per cell (a long time 
in computer years).  The solution I received from this list was to turn 
off all formatting (font, bold, not much more).  That was unacceptable, 
so recently I tried turning off auto-calc, requiring I use F9 to recalc 
the sheet after additions/changes.  It didn't help much.  And, in the 
process, I found the following.


On to the "verified fatal error":
   I have a group of about 10 lines that I want to delete.
   Lines above and below are referenced in page 3.
   I select and delete the lines and get the following fatal error:  
(three times (verified))

 Fatal Error (title in a window)
 multi_type_vector::position#1321:block position not found!
 (logical pos=4294967275, block size=9. logical size=1048575)

I had 5 sheets open, all 5 were damaged, and all 5 were recovered upon 
reentry.


Ubuntu 16.04 and LO version 5.1.4

What I have not tried is to F9 and/or save before the delete.

John


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