Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital Signatures

[Marc Grober]

Does your certificate path point to your default profile?
What versions of OS, LO, FF are you using?

On 5/5/16 4:52 AM, Jack Wallen wrote:
> Hello everyone!
>
> So I've been trying to work out the whole digital signature mess on
> LibreOffice. I created a self-signed digital signature using gpg and
> imported it into both Firefox and Thunderbird. No matter what I do,
> LibreOffice cannot see the certificate. Is there something I'm missing
> here? Will LibreOffice not work with self-signed CAs? I've googled
> this and have yet to come up with a solution.
>
> Thank you for any help you can offer.
>
> Jack
>



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[libreoffice-users] Digital Signatures

[Jack Wallen]

Hello everyone!

So I've been trying to work out the whole digital signature mess on 
LibreOffice. I created a self-signed digital signature using gpg and 
imported it into both Firefox and Thunderbird. No matter what I do, 
LibreOffice cannot see the certificate. Is there something I'm missing 
here? Will LibreOffice not work with self-signed CAs? I've googled this 
and have yet to come up with a solution.


Thank you for any help you can offer.

Jack

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital signatures

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I think post it as a bug-report.

I'm sure you are probably experienced at this but jic, and mostly for other
people to take note of  ...
When you post a bug-report it's a lot like writing an email.  The subject
line needs to be a very short indication of what the problem is.  People
have a tendency to write something like "problem with LibreOffice" but
since all bug-reports are problems and the whole bug-reporting system is
dedicated to just LibreOffice such a line doesn't help.  For this
bug-report something like "certificates, attaching self-signed or personal
ones in LO 5.0.2 in Windows", something nice and succinct.  Being succinct
is NOT something i'm good at!! So, you'll probably have a better idea.

Note that you can always add extra 'emails', including attachments, to it
later.  So you can post with fairly little information if you need to dig
around to find all the bits a good bug-report would need.  It's better
if you can get it all together fairly quickly but doesn't all HAVE to be in
the first post = it's just better if you can.

There are several drop-down menus to set "urgency" and stuff.  Mostly QA
and the devs handle that but one of them has "feature request" as one of
the options.  It might be worth posting this as a feature request.


It sounds like LibreOffice can use either a "self-signed" one or a
"personal" one.  I read those instructions as just advice that it's better
to use "a personal certificate".

It sounds like whichever you use is used in the same way but that if you
can use a "personal" one it is likely to be even more trusted than a
self-signed one.  I think just go for a self-signed one for now unless you
already have a "personal" one = or unless you are doing this as part of the
verification process or something like that.


There is online help in the wiki and an Faq in there.  If you can read
something other than English then the online help or the help built into
LibreOffice might give slightly different instructions that help you figure
out how to attach the certificates.  If you only read English it still
might but the translated versions of all other documentation tends to be
better in non-English.  The English version is designed to be easier to
translate.  In English the best help is the published guides that you've
already read.

Regards from
Tom :)




On 15 October 2015 at 11:07, Евгений  wrote:

> Hello.
>
> "Writer 4.2 Guide" from second link.
>
> =
> Certificate Path
>
> Note
> This option appears only on Linux and Mac systems. On Windows, LibreOffice
> uses
> the default Windows location for storing and retrieving certificates.
>
> Users can digitally sign documents using LibreOffice. A digital signature
> requires a personal
> signing certificate. Most operating systems can generate a self-signed
> certificate. However, a
> personal certificate issued by an outside agency (after verifying an
> individual's identity) has a
> higher degree of trust associated with it than does a self-signed
> certificate. LibreOffice does not
> provide a secure method of storing these certificates, but it can access
> certificates that have
> been saved using other programs. Click Certificate and select which
> certificate store to use.
> =
>
> Is it mean, that in LO i can use only self-signed certificates to sign
> documents?
>
> My problem is that LO do not add my certificate, but can see it in
> certificate store (i try it on windows).
> Is it bug and i should report it or this is normal behavior?
>
>
> 12.10.2015, 22:56, "Tom Davies" :
> > Hi :)
> > Do the "Published Guides" help at all? They are both here;
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
> > and here;
> > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
> > and a few other places but those two links have them for free.
> >
> > The Published Guides are usually the best documentation in English. There
> > is the Faq and the 'in-built' help but the Published Guides tend to be a
> > LOT better. The other help tends to be MUCH easier to translate, and
> > people work hard at that, so the translations tend to be excellent but
> for
> > English please try the Published Guides. Having said that i'm not sure if
> > they cover this issue! Please let us know.
> > Regards from
> > Tom :) 
> >
> > On 12 October 2015 at 14:49, Philip Jackson 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>  Hi, I have been using signatures occasionally over the past couple of
> years
> >>  without any problem. I initially used Firefox to load my signature
> >>  together
> >>  with the root. LO swriter then had no problem finding the certificate
> and
> >>  signing with it.
> >>
> >>  Now, my old certificate has expired and I have the replacement
> certificate
> >>  installed in FireFox..
> >>
> >>  Your email prompted me to try and sign a document with my new
> >>  certificate. LO
> >>  cannot see my new certificate (only the old expired one).
> >>
> >>  As usual 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital signatures

[Евгений]

Hello.

"Writer 4.2 Guide" from second link.

=
Certificate Path

Note
This option appears only on Linux and Mac systems. On Windows, LibreOffice uses
the default Windows location for storing and retrieving certificates.

Users can digitally sign documents using LibreOffice. A digital signature 
requires a personal
signing certificate. Most operating systems can generate a self-signed 
certificate. However, a
personal certificate issued by an outside agency (after verifying an 
individual's identity) has a
higher degree of trust associated with it than does a self-signed certificate. 
LibreOffice does not
provide a secure method of storing these certificates, but it can access 
certificates that have
been saved using other programs. Click Certificate and select which certificate 
store to use.
=

Is it mean, that in LO i can use only self-signed certificates to sign 
documents?

My problem is that LO do not add my certificate, but can see it in certificate 
store (i try it on windows).
Is it bug and i should report it or this is normal behavior?


12.10.2015, 22:56, "Tom Davies" :
> Hi :)
> Do the "Published Guides" help at all? They are both here;
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
> and here;
> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
> and a few other places but those two links have them for free.
>
> The Published Guides are usually the best documentation in English. There
> is the Faq and the 'in-built' help but the Published Guides tend to be a
> LOT better. The other help tends to be MUCH easier to translate, and
> people work hard at that, so the translations tend to be excellent but for
> English please try the Published Guides. Having said that i'm not sure if
> they cover this issue! Please let us know.
> Regards from
> Tom :) 
>
> On 12 October 2015 at 14:49, Philip Jackson 
> wrote:
>
>>  Hi, I have been using signatures occasionally over the past couple of years
>>  without any problem. I initially used Firefox to load my signature
>>  together
>>  with the root. LO swriter then had no problem finding the certificate and
>>  signing with it.
>>
>>  Now, my old certificate has expired and I have the replacement certificate
>>  installed in FireFox..
>>
>>  Your email prompted me to try and sign a document with my new
>>  certificate. LO
>>  cannot see my new certificate (only the old expired one).
>>
>>  As usual (see recent threads) the LO Help doesn't actually help very
>>  much. It
>>  talks about an ADD button in the Digital Signing dialog but I don't get an
>>  ADD
>>  button. I can sign with the old certificate even though it is expired and
>>  then
>>  the document shows that the signature is broken.
>>
>>  I used FireFox to remove my expired certificate and even after rebooting
>>  LO only
>>  sees the expired one and not the new one. Still no ADD button so does LO
>>  limit
>>  users to a single certificate ? Where does LO store the certificates ?
>>
>>  I found the answer to this by looking in the LO writer
>>  Tools/Options/LibreOffice/Security tab
>>
>>  There the bottom item was Certificate Path and it gave me two choices :
>>  FireFox
>>  profile or Thunderbird profile
>>
>>  My LO was on Thunderbird's profile and I had forgotten to update that one
>>  with
>>  my new certificate details. So I switched to FireFox which was up to date.
>>
>>  After re-starting LO, my document could be signed by the new certificate.
>>
>>  I updated my Thunderbird profile with the new certificate and set LO to
>>  Thunderbird. After restarting LO, I tried to resign the document. But
>>  from the
>>  Thunderbird profile, LO only sees the outdated certificate.
>>
>>  So I conclude several points :
>>
>>  1. LO Writer can only see 1 certificate in either FireFox or Thunderbird
>>  profiles and that is the oldest of however many certs are present.
>>
>>  2. If the oldest is out of date - tough
>>
>>  3. LO Help button on the digital signing dialog box lands the user on a
>>  webpage
>>  which correctly announces that it has no information.
>>
>>  4. searching on the LO Help website finds some help which talks of using
>>  the
>>  ADD button to add a certificate. But at least with LO 4.2.8.2 (Ubuntu
>>  1404 LTS
>>  with their latest updates), I cannot find any such button.
>>
>>  5. My solution was to delete the expired certificate from FireFox profile.
>>  And
>>  LO correctly used the new one which had remained invisible up to that
>>  point.
>>
>>  I am not sure that time expired certs should be deleted. They are probably
>>  needed to verify old signatures or to decrypt old files.
>>
>>  Philip
>>
>>  On 12/10/15 04:14, Евгений wrote:
>>  > No one here used signatures?
>>  > No one can help or give some advices to resolve problem?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > 07.10.2015, 10:00, "Евгений" :
>>  >> Hello.
>>  >>
>>  >> Can someone help me with digital signatures?
>>  >>
>>  >> I tried LO 5.0.2, 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital signatures

[Joel Madero]

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 3:07 AM, Евгений  wrote:

> Hello.
>
> "Writer 4.2 Guide" from second link.
>
> =
> Certificate Path
>
> Note
> This option appears only on Linux and Mac systems. On Windows, LibreOffice
> uses
> the default Windows location for storing and retrieving certificates.
>
> Users can digitally sign documents using LibreOffice. A digital signature
> requires a personal
> signing certificate. Most operating systems can generate a self-signed
> certificate. However, a
> personal certificate issued by an outside agency (after verifying an
> individual's identity) has a
> higher degree of trust associated with it than does a self-signed
> certificate. LibreOffice does not
> provide a secure method of storing these certificates, but it can access
> certificates that have
> been saved using other programs. Click Certificate and select which
> certificate store to use.
> =
>
> Is it mean, that in LO i can use only self-signed certificates to sign
> documents?
>
>
FWIW - I've always had problems with digital signatures (going back to
OpenOffice I believe). I wouldn't be surprised if there is already a report
in bugzilla about it.


Best,
Joel

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital signatures

[Alan B]

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Евгений  wrote:

> No one here used signatures?
> No one can help or give some advices to resolve problem?
>

Sorry Евгений, I have only used self signed and only a few times.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital signatures

[Philip Jackson]

Hi, I have been using signatures occasionally over the past couple of years
without any problem.  I initially used Firefox to load my signature together
with the root.  LO swriter then had no problem  finding the certificate and
signing with it.

Now, my old certificate has expired and I have the replacement certificate
installed in FireFox..

Your email prompted me to try and sign a document with my new certificate.  LO
cannot see my new certificate (only the old expired one).

As usual (see recent threads) the LO Help doesn't actually help very much.  It
talks about an ADD button in the Digital Signing dialog but I don't get an ADD
button.  I can sign with the old certificate even though it is expired and then
the document shows that the signature is broken.

I used FireFox to remove my expired certificate and even after rebooting LO only
sees the expired one and not the new one.  Still no ADD button so does LO limit
users to a single certificate ?  Where does LO store the certificates ?

I found the answer to this by looking in the LO writer
Tools/Options/LibreOffice/Security tab

There the bottom item was Certificate Path and it gave me two choices : FireFox
profile or Thunderbird profile


My LO was on Thunderbird's profile and I had forgotten to update that one with
my new certificate details.  So I switched to FireFox which was up to date.

After re-starting LO, my document could be signed by the new certificate.

I updated my Thunderbird profile with the new certificate and set LO to
Thunderbird.  After restarting LO, I tried to resign the document.  But from the
Thunderbird profile, LO only sees the outdated certificate.

So I conclude several points :

1. LO Writer can only see 1 certificate in either FireFox or Thunderbird
profiles and that is the oldest of however many certs are present.

2. If the oldest is out of date - tough

3. LO Help button on the digital signing dialog box lands the user on a webpage
which correctly announces that it has no information.

4.  searching on the LO Help website finds some help which talks of using the
ADD button to add a certificate.  But at least with LO 4.2.8.2 (Ubuntu 1404 LTS
with their latest updates), I cannot find any such button.

5. My solution was to delete the expired certificate from FireFox profile. And
LO correctly used the new one which had remained invisible up to that point.

I am not sure that time expired certs should be deleted.  They are probably
needed to verify old signatures or to decrypt old files.

Philip



On 12/10/15 04:14, Евгений wrote:
> No one here used signatures?
> No one can help or give some advices to resolve problem?
> 
> 
> 07.10.2015, 10:00, "Евгений" :
>> Hello.
>>
>> Can someone help me with digital signatures?
>>
>> I tried LO 5.0.2, 4.4.5.2 and even AOO 4.1.1 on windows server 2008 r2.
>>
>> I have imported root CA certificate. I have copied private and public keys 
>> to registry from token.
>> My certificate is valid.
>>
>> When i use "File - Digital signatures" and try to add one to document - 
>> nothing happens.
>> I can see my certificate details from LO dialog, but when i select it and 
>> press OK - none added to document.
>>
>> Document - ODT file.
>>
>> No errors or other messages appeared.
>>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital signatures

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Do the "Published Guides" help at all?  They are both here;
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
and here;
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/documentation/
and a few other places but those two links have them for free.

The Published Guides are usually the best documentation in English.  There
is the Faq and the 'in-built' help but the Published Guides tend to be a
LOT better.  The other help tends to be MUCH easier to translate, and
people work hard at that, so the translations tend to be excellent but for
English please try the Published Guides.  Having said that i'm not sure if
they cover this issue!  Please let us know.
Regards from
Tom :) 



On 12 October 2015 at 14:49, Philip Jackson 
wrote:

> Hi, I have been using signatures occasionally over the past couple of years
> without any problem.  I initially used Firefox to load my signature
> together
> with the root.  LO swriter then had no problem  finding the certificate and
> signing with it.
>
> Now, my old certificate has expired and I have the replacement certificate
> installed in FireFox..
>
> Your email prompted me to try and sign a document with my new
> certificate.  LO
> cannot see my new certificate (only the old expired one).
>
> As usual (see recent threads) the LO Help doesn't actually help very
> much.  It
> talks about an ADD button in the Digital Signing dialog but I don't get an
> ADD
> button.  I can sign with the old certificate even though it is expired and
> then
> the document shows that the signature is broken.
>
> I used FireFox to remove my expired certificate and even after rebooting
> LO only
> sees the expired one and not the new one.  Still no ADD button so does LO
> limit
> users to a single certificate ?  Where does LO store the certificates ?
>
> I found the answer to this by looking in the LO writer
> Tools/Options/LibreOffice/Security tab
>
> There the bottom item was Certificate Path and it gave me two choices :
> FireFox
> profile or Thunderbird profile
>
>
> My LO was on Thunderbird's profile and I had forgotten to update that one
> with
> my new certificate details.  So I switched to FireFox which was up to date.
>
> After re-starting LO, my document could be signed by the new certificate.
>
> I updated my Thunderbird profile with the new certificate and set LO to
> Thunderbird.  After restarting LO, I tried to resign the document.  But
> from the
> Thunderbird profile, LO only sees the outdated certificate.
>
> So I conclude several points :
>
> 1. LO Writer can only see 1 certificate in either FireFox or Thunderbird
> profiles and that is the oldest of however many certs are present.
>
> 2. If the oldest is out of date - tough
>
> 3. LO Help button on the digital signing dialog box lands the user on a
> webpage
> which correctly announces that it has no information.
>
> 4.  searching on the LO Help website finds some help which talks of using
> the
> ADD button to add a certificate.  But at least with LO 4.2.8.2 (Ubuntu
> 1404 LTS
> with their latest updates), I cannot find any such button.
>
> 5. My solution was to delete the expired certificate from FireFox profile.
> And
> LO correctly used the new one which had remained invisible up to that
> point.
>
> I am not sure that time expired certs should be deleted.  They are probably
> needed to verify old signatures or to decrypt old files.
>
> Philip
>
>
>
> On 12/10/15 04:14, Евгений wrote:
> > No one here used signatures?
> > No one can help or give some advices to resolve problem?
> >
> >
> > 07.10.2015, 10:00, "Евгений" :
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> Can someone help me with digital signatures?
> >>
> >> I tried LO 5.0.2, 4.4.5.2 and even AOO 4.1.1 on windows server 2008 r2.
> >>
> >> I have imported root CA certificate. I have copied private and public
> keys to registry from token.
> >> My certificate is valid.
> >>
> >> When i use "File - Digital signatures" and try to add one to document -
> nothing happens.
> >> I can see my certificate details from LO dialog, but when i select it
> and press OK - none added to document.
> >>
> >> Document - ODT file.
> >>
> >> No errors or other messages appeared.
> >>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital signatures

[Евгений]

No one here used signatures?
No one can help or give some advices to resolve problem?


07.10.2015, 10:00, "Евгений" :
> Hello.
>
> Can someone help me with digital signatures?
>
> I tried LO 5.0.2, 4.4.5.2 and even AOO 4.1.1 on windows server 2008 r2.
>
> I have imported root CA certificate. I have copied private and public keys to 
> registry from token.
> My certificate is valid.
>
> When i use "File - Digital signatures" and try to add one to document - 
> nothing happens.
> I can see my certificate details from LO dialog, but when i select it and 
> press OK - none added to document.
>
> Document - ODT file.
>
> No errors or other messages appeared.
>
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[libreoffice-users] Digital signatures

[Евгений]

Hello.

Can someone help me with digital signatures?

I tried LO 5.0.2, 4.4.5.2 and even AOO 4.1.1 on windows server 2008 r2.

I have imported root CA certificate. I have copied private and public keys to 
registry from token.
My certificate is valid.

When i use "File - Digital signatures" and try to add one to document - nothing 
happens.
I can see my certificate details from LO dialog, but when i select it and press 
OK - none added to document.

Document - ODT file.

No errors or other messages appeared.

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[libreoffice-users] Digital signatures for macros

[shadebug]

Hello,

I've been trying to work out (1) what type of certificate you need for
signing macros and (2) how to get the option to do that. 

I've got both a document signing certificate and a code signing certificate
and, after installing them in thunderbird, they both appear for document
signing. For macros, however, I can't seem to make the macros  digital
signatures option enable. 

I've enabled experimental features, which gave me macro recording, and threw
in a hello world macro to make sure there was something to sign but digital
signatures are still greyed out.

I'm sure there's an answer but lots of googling and both irc channels
haven't provided one. Can anybody on the list help?

Currently running Version 4.0.4.2 (Build ID: 4.0.4.2-9.el6) on CentOS. Any
help would be much appreciated



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[libreoffice-users] digital signatures

[jack wallen]

Hello all.

I'm trying to work out how to add digital signatures to LibreOffice
documents, but can not seem to see any self-signed certificate I create on
my Ubuntu system (created with either gnomint or tinyca2).

Does anyone know the trick to this process? How can I make LibreOffice
aware of my certificates?

Thank you so much.

Jack


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Writer of the I Zombie trilogy, the Fringe Killer series, Shero, and the
upcoming The Book of Jacob Series. www.monkeypantz.net


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Re: [libreoffice-users] digital signatures

[Thomas Damratowski]

Search in help for signing documents with digital signatures

On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:35 AM, jack wallen jlwal...@monkeypantz.netwrote:

 Hello all.

 I'm trying to work out how to add digital signatures to LibreOffice
 documents, but can not seem to see any self-signed certificate I create on
 my Ubuntu system (created with either gnomint or tinyca2).

 Does anyone know the trick to this process? How can I make LibreOffice
 aware of my certificates?

 Thank you so much.

 Jack


 --
 jack wallen, jr --- lover of entropy

 Writer of the I Zombie trilogy, the Fringe Killer series, Shero, and the
 upcoming The Book of Jacob Series. www.monkeypantz.net


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