Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"?
At 11:07 12/11/2012 -0500, Nobody Noname wrote: Now I just have to work on the column text that starts on page one and then flows into page 3 or 4, like magazine and other articles do from time to time in newsletters and other documents that use a multi-column segmented article format. Easy: o Create text frames at each location. o Select the first frame - so you see the eight coloured handles. o Click the Link Frames button in the Frame toolbar. o Click in the second frame. o Repeat for further linked frames. I trust this helps. Brian Barker -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"?
Hi :) +1 I agree the name is a bit strange but some people do use it that way. I tend to find that once i know the type of option i am looking for is likely to exist then it's usually possible to figure out which option it is by askign here and/or trying out a couple of options to see what they do. Regards from Tom :) > > From: VA >To: webmaster-Kracked_P_P ; LibreO - Users Global > >Sent: Monday, 12 November 2012, 18:20 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"? > >I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that older versions of OpenOffice had >"booklet" instead of "brochure" for the printing option. > >I haven't printed a booklet in several years, but I walked through it this >morning before I sent my email and I was surprised to see "brochure" as the >option. Again, I remembered it as "booklet," but again, my memory may be >playing tricks on me. > >I agree that "booklet" is more descriptive of what we're trying to accomplish, >so you're not "a bit dumb." > >Virgil > > > >-Original Message----- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P >Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:07 AM >To: LibreO - Users Global >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"? > > >OK >I am being a bit dumb. > >I did not check out the "Brochure" option for printing. > >For me, a brochure was a single sheet of paper divided into 3 columns >and printed on 2 sides. It did not go beyond the single sheet. > >Newsletters and booklets were more than one sheet. > >So I just tested the Brochure printing out with very large numbers on >each page, one per page representing its page order. Used 2 pages per >sheet and the brochure option. > >Yes, it works they way I was looking for. > >SO >I was all hung up with the term "Brochure" for a printing option. As I >said, "brochure" is a single double sided sheet, and newsletter/booklet >is for more than one double sided sheets per document. > >I have not made a newsletter/booklet with LO yet, except the simple >double sided portrait documents. I was asked if I wanted to help with a >8 or 12 page/face newsletter in the coming few months, so I was looking >into the options. Now I just have to work on the column text that >starts on page one and then flows into page 3 or 4, like magazine and >other articles do from time to time in newsletters and other documents >that use a multi-column segmented article format. > > >On 11/12/2012 10:45 AM, VA wrote: >> Maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I've printed booklets many times >> with OO and I assume Libre works the same. >> >> I begin with US letter size paper, but in my page layout, I set up a custom >> page size, which is essentially one/half the letter size and I keep it on >> "portrait." >> >> When printing, I open the print dialog box. Under "Properties," I make sure >> the printer is set on "landscape." >> >> I then click on the "Page Layout" tab and check the "brochure" option. With >> a duplex (double-sided) printer, it prints everything out perfectly and in >> order as a booklet. I then have an extra long stapler that I can use to >> staple in the middle of the letter-sized paper. >> >> It's harder with a single-side printer because you have to either manually >> feed the pages one at a time and flip them over or figure out which order to >> put the stack in after it prints all of one side; that gets a little hairy, >> at least for me. >> >> Virgil >> >> -Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P >> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:16 AM >> To: LibreO - Users Global >> Subject: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"? >> >> >> Since there was the thread about the "Book Preview", I was wondering if >> there is either an extension out there or a external program that would >> print the pages of the document in the correct order for "Book Printing". >> >> When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on >> each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages >> in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and >> suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format. >> >> I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid >> paper. I ended up making a template in PageM
Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"?
I may be mistaken, but I seem to recall that older versions of OpenOffice had "booklet" instead of "brochure" for the printing option. I haven't printed a booklet in several years, but I walked through it this morning before I sent my email and I was surprised to see "brochure" as the option. Again, I remembered it as "booklet," but again, my memory may be playing tricks on me. I agree that "booklet" is more descriptive of what we're trying to accomplish, so you're not "a bit dumb." Virgil -Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 11:07 AM To: LibreO - Users Global Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"? OK I am being a bit dumb. I did not check out the "Brochure" option for printing. For me, a brochure was a single sheet of paper divided into 3 columns and printed on 2 sides. It did not go beyond the single sheet. Newsletters and booklets were more than one sheet. So I just tested the Brochure printing out with very large numbers on each page, one per page representing its page order. Used 2 pages per sheet and the brochure option. Yes, it works they way I was looking for. SO I was all hung up with the term "Brochure" for a printing option. As I said, "brochure" is a single double sided sheet, and newsletter/booklet is for more than one double sided sheets per document. I have not made a newsletter/booklet with LO yet, except the simple double sided portrait documents. I was asked if I wanted to help with a 8 or 12 page/face newsletter in the coming few months, so I was looking into the options. Now I just have to work on the column text that starts on page one and then flows into page 3 or 4, like magazine and other articles do from time to time in newsletters and other documents that use a multi-column segmented article format. On 11/12/2012 10:45 AM, VA wrote: Maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I've printed booklets many times with OO and I assume Libre works the same. I begin with US letter size paper, but in my page layout, I set up a custom page size, which is essentially one/half the letter size and I keep it on "portrait." When printing, I open the print dialog box. Under "Properties," I make sure the printer is set on "landscape." I then click on the "Page Layout" tab and check the "brochure" option. With a duplex (double-sided) printer, it prints everything out perfectly and in order as a booklet. I then have an extra long stapler that I can use to staple in the middle of the letter-sized paper. It's harder with a single-side printer because you have to either manually feed the pages one at a time and flip them over or figure out which order to put the stack in after it prints all of one side; that gets a little hairy, at least for me. Virgil -Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:16 AM To: LibreO - Users Global Subject: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"? Since there was the thread about the "Book Preview", I was wondering if there is either an extension out there or a external program that would print the pages of the document in the correct order for "Book Printing". When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format. I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid paper. I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document printing. I had a template for each page count version of the newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets. I would like to find an extension or external package that would print out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I could use a package for either OS. Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"?
OK I am being a bit dumb. I did not check out the "Brochure" option for printing. For me, a brochure was a single sheet of paper divided into 3 columns and printed on 2 sides. It did not go beyond the single sheet. Newsletters and booklets were more than one sheet. So I just tested the Brochure printing out with very large numbers on each page, one per page representing its page order. Used 2 pages per sheet and the brochure option. Yes, it works they way I was looking for. SO I was all hung up with the term "Brochure" for a printing option. As I said, "brochure" is a single double sided sheet, and newsletter/booklet is for more than one double sided sheets per document. I have not made a newsletter/booklet with LO yet, except the simple double sided portrait documents. I was asked if I wanted to help with a 8 or 12 page/face newsletter in the coming few months, so I was looking into the options. Now I just have to work on the column text that starts on page one and then flows into page 3 or 4, like magazine and other articles do from time to time in newsletters and other documents that use a multi-column segmented article format. On 11/12/2012 10:45 AM, VA wrote: Maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I've printed booklets many times with OO and I assume Libre works the same. I begin with US letter size paper, but in my page layout, I set up a custom page size, which is essentially one/half the letter size and I keep it on "portrait." When printing, I open the print dialog box. Under "Properties," I make sure the printer is set on "landscape." I then click on the "Page Layout" tab and check the "brochure" option. With a duplex (double-sided) printer, it prints everything out perfectly and in order as a booklet. I then have an extra long stapler that I can use to staple in the middle of the letter-sized paper. It's harder with a single-side printer because you have to either manually feed the pages one at a time and flip them over or figure out which order to put the stack in after it prints all of one side; that gets a little hairy, at least for me. Virgil -Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:16 AM To: LibreO - Users Global Subject: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"? Since there was the thread about the "Book Preview", I was wondering if there is either an extension out there or a external program that would print the pages of the document in the correct order for "Book Printing". When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format. I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid paper. I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document printing. I had a template for each page count version of the newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets. I would like to find an extension or external package that would print out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I could use a package for either OS. Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"?
Maybe I don't understand what you mean, but I've printed booklets many times with OO and I assume Libre works the same. I begin with US letter size paper, but in my page layout, I set up a custom page size, which is essentially one/half the letter size and I keep it on "portrait." When printing, I open the print dialog box. Under "Properties," I make sure the printer is set on "landscape." I then click on the "Page Layout" tab and check the "brochure" option. With a duplex (double-sided) printer, it prints everything out perfectly and in order as a booklet. I then have an extra long stapler that I can use to staple in the middle of the letter-sized paper. It's harder with a single-side printer because you have to either manually feed the pages one at a time and flip them over or figure out which order to put the stack in after it prints all of one side; that gets a little hairy, at least for me. Virgil -Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 9:16 AM To: LibreO - Users Global Subject: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"? Since there was the thread about the "Book Preview", I was wondering if there is either an extension out there or a external program that would print the pages of the document in the correct order for "Book Printing". When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format. I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid paper. I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document printing. I had a template for each page count version of the newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets. I would like to find an extension or external package that would print out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I could use a package for either OS. Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"?
On 11/12/2012 10:21 AM, MiguelAngel wrote: El 12/11/12 15:16, webmaster-Kracked_P_P escribió: Since there was the thread about the "Book Preview", I was wondering if there is either an extension out there or a external program that would print the pages of the document in the correct order for "Book Printing". When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format. I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid paper. I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document printing. I had a template for each page count version of the newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets. I would like to find an extension or external package that would print out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I could use a package for either OS. Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work? LibreOffice help: " Printing a Brochure You can print a Writer document as a brochure or a booklet. That is, Writer prints two pages on each side of the paper, so that when you fold the paper, you can read the document as a book. When you create a document that you want to print as a brochure, use portrait orientation for the pages. Writer applies the brochure layout when you print the document. To Print a Brochure 1. Choose File - Print. 2. In the Print dialog, click Properties. 3. In the properties dialog for your printer, set the paper orientation to landscape. If your printer prints duplex, and because brochures always print in landscape mode, you should use the "duplex - short edge" setting in your printer setup dialog. 4. Return to Print dialog, and click the Page Layout tab page. 5. Select Brochure. 6. For a printer that automatically prints on both sides of a page, specify to include "All pages". 7. Click OK. If you print a document in portrait on a landscape page, two opposing sides in a brochure will be printed next to each other. If you have a printer with double-sided printing capability, you can create an entire brochure from your document without having to collate the pages later. If you have a printer that only has single-sided printing capability, you can achieve this effect by first printing the front pages with the "Front sides / right pages /odd pages" option marked, then re-inserting the entire paper stack in your printer and printing all the back pages with the "Back pages / left pages / even pages" option marked. If LibreOffice prints the pages in the wrong order, open the Options tab page, select Print in reverse page order, and then print the document again. " I hope this is what you are looking for. I have two printers that prints double sided - HP Laserjet 2300, and Epson Artisan 810. But sometimes the print one side for a "stack" and then print the other side can be faster. The trick is when you are printing more than one sheet of paper per newsletter or small booklet. Then the order of the pages on each sheet is not standard. For a Newsletter - when you use 2 or 3 sheets of tabloid paper [8 or 12 pages/faces], the order of the page/faces on the sheets are not the same as if you were to print them out as a double-sided document. sheet 1 side 1 - page 8, 1 sheet 1 side 2 - page 2, 7 sheet 2 side 1 - page 6, 3 sheet 2 side 2 - page 4, 5 So the first tabloid page that is printed, page 8 is on the left and page 1 is on the right, then on the reverse side page 2 is on the left with page 7 on the right. That is not the easiest thing to deal with manually. I use to create a template with each side of the sheet showing and manually numbered each footer with the proper page number. I would love to have some system to do it for me. In a different posting, David B. listed "Gimpose" as a package that should do it. The final printout of the document was always in a PDF format for the printer's system to use. They printed, collated, folded, etc., the sheets for us. Most of use do not have "personal access" to a tabloid paper printer. I have printed newsletters as unfolded letter sized sheets, but it looks more professional for the tabloid paper - though it does cost more. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"?
El 12/11/12 15:16, webmaster-Kracked_P_P escribió: Since there was the thread about the "Book Preview", I was wondering if there is either an extension out there or a external program that would print the pages of the document in the correct order for "Book Printing". When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format. I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid paper. I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document printing. I had a template for each page count version of the newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets. I would like to find an extension or external package that would print out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I could use a package for either OS. Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work? LibreOffice help: " Printing a Brochure You can print a Writer document as a brochure or a booklet. That is, Writer prints two pages on each side of the paper, so that when you fold the paper, you can read the document as a book. When you create a document that you want to print as a brochure, use portrait orientation for the pages. Writer applies the brochure layout when you print the document. To Print a Brochure 1. Choose File - Print. 2. In the Print dialog, click Properties. 3. In the properties dialog for your printer, set the paper orientation to landscape. If your printer prints duplex, and because brochures always print in landscape mode, you should use the "duplex - short edge" setting in your printer setup dialog. 4. Return to Print dialog, and click the Page Layout tab page. 5. Select Brochure. 6. For a printer that automatically prints on both sides of a page, specify to include "All pages". 7. Click OK. If you print a document in portrait on a landscape page, two opposing sides in a brochure will be printed next to each other. If you have a printer with double-sided printing capability, you can create an entire brochure from your document without having to collate the pages later. If you have a printer that only has single-sided printing capability, you can achieve this effect by first printing the front pages with the "Front sides / right pages /odd pages" option marked, then re-inserting the entire paper stack in your printer and printing all the back pages with the "Back pages / left pages / even pages" option marked. If LibreOffice prints the pages in the wrong order, open the Options tab page, select Print in reverse page order, and then print the document again. " I hope this is what you are looking for. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"?
For most impositions I use a very simple "freeware" utility called "Gimpose" (http://www.noliturbare.com/) which is written for Windows but runs perfectly under Wine. It does the most common kinds of impositions, including saddle-stitch booklets, two pages per sheet, duplicate pages side by side, and cut stacks. When I need to do more complicated impositions, I have to fire up Windows XP in a Virtual Box and run Acrobat Pro with the "Quite Imposing" plugin (which are both rather pricey). David Burleigh 828-398-1406 On 11/12/2012 09:16 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: > > Since there was the thread about the "Book Preview", I was wondering > if there is either an extension out there or a external program that > would print the pages of the document in the correct order for "Book > Printing". > > When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on > each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the > pages in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet > and suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format. > > I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid > paper. I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages > listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document > printing. I had a template for each page count version of the > newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets. > > I would like to find an extension or external package that would print > out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets > instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I > could use a package for either OS. > > Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work? > -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-users] extension or program for "book printing"?
Since there was the thread about the "Book Preview", I was wondering if there is either an extension out there or a external program that would print the pages of the document in the correct order for "Book Printing". When you have a landscape double sided sheet with two pages printed on each side [letter or tabloid sized paper], you need to arrange the pages in a set order for the pages to print out on the correct sheet and suchfor the colation and folding of the sheets into a book format. I use to do a lot of multi-sheet newsletters printed onto tabloid paper. I ended up making a template in PageMaker that had the pages listed in the placement for printing and not for the standard document printing. I had a template for each page count version of the newsletter, such as 2 or 3 tabloid sheets. I would like to find an extension or external package that would print out the pages in the proper order for the placement on the sheets instead of doing it manually. Since I use both Windows and Linux, I could use a package for either OS. Anyone know of a package or extension that would do the work? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted