Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-12 Thread jef peeraer

On 12/12/2011 01:29 AM, e-letter wrote:

On 11/12/2011, jef peeraerjef.peer...@telenet.be  wrote:

On 12/10/2011 05:54 PM, e-letter wrote:

On 10/12/2011, jef peeraerjef.peer...@telenet.be   wrote:

i have a website that generates reports in HTML. it contains nice




Not able to generate a csv report? Assuming you are importing into a
spreadsheet to perform data manipulation, why is pretty formatting
necessary?
well, this is not an issue for me, but for other users i now, and they 
are always referring to the other spreadsheet program. My task is of 
course to counteract and to show them that it works even better in LO. 
This was one question popping up by a user, and i agree, why do pretty 
formatting in excel, but i just want to have an answer ready



tables, with headers andso. in another spreadsheet program, i can just
ctrl-a, ctrl-c and then ctrl-v, all tables are nicely imported, even the
markup is converted to the spreadsheet.
Can i do this with LO ?



What is stopping you to continue using the other spreadsheet?

trying to convert some people, is a goof thing, no ?




Have you tried yet??? Then tell us the results!

well, i can't use Insert  Link to External Data, because i don't hace
an URL of that generated report.




What is wrong with the function 'paste special' and the option 'as
html' in the dialogue window?



jef

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Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-12 Thread David S. Crampton

Jef,

Take a look at the raw HTML. The formatting might be using style sheets  
(.css) files. It is pretty easy for the linkages between the body of html  
and the external style sheets to be broken.


Just a suggestion,

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On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 00:34:55 -0800, jef peeraer jef.peer...@telenet.be  
wrote:



On 12/12/2011 01:29 AM, e-letter wrote:

On 11/12/2011, jef peeraerjef.peer...@telenet.be  wrote:

On 12/10/2011 05:54 PM, e-letter wrote:

On 10/12/2011, jef peeraerjef.peer...@telenet.be   wrote:

i have a website that generates reports in HTML. it contains nice




Not able to generate a csv report? Assuming you are importing into a
spreadsheet to perform data manipulation, why is pretty formatting
necessary?
well, this is not an issue for me, but for other users i now, and they  
are always referring to the other spreadsheet program. My task is of  
course to counteract and to show them that it works even better in LO.  
This was one question popping up by a user, and i agree, why do pretty  
formatting in excel, but i just want to have an answer ready


tables, with headers andso. in another spreadsheet program, i can  
just
ctrl-a, ctrl-c and then ctrl-v, all tables are nicely imported, even  
the

markup is converted to the spreadsheet.
Can i do this with LO ?



What is stopping you to continue using the other spreadsheet?

trying to convert some people, is a goof thing, no ?




Have you tried yet??? Then tell us the results!

well, i can't use Insert  Link to External Data, because i don't hace
an URL of that generated report.




What is wrong with the function 'paste special' and the option 'as
html' in the dialogue window?



jef


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Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-12 Thread Jay Lozier

On 12/12/2011 08:24 AM, David S. Crampton wrote:

Jef,

Take a look at the raw HTML. The formatting might be using style 
sheets (.css) files. It is pretty easy for the linkages between the 
body of html and the external style sheets to be broken.


Just a suggestion,

Generally, formating should be controlled by CSS so importing HTML will 
all the formating may be dicey. I have found that copy/paste of table 
information works very well with Calc.


What kind of data are users importing? Is the html data a table or mixed 
tabular and non tabular data?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-12 Thread jef peeraer

On 12/12/2011 09:48 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 12/12/2011 08:24 AM, David S. Crampton wrote:

Jef,

Take a look at the raw HTML. The formatting might be using style
sheets (.css) files. It is pretty easy for the linkages between the
body of html and the external style sheets to be broken.

Just a suggestion,


Generally, formating should be controlled by CSS so importing HTML will
all the formating may be dicey. I have found that copy/paste of table
information works very well with Calc.

What kind of data are users importing? Is the html data a table or mixed
tabular and non tabular data?

it is a table, and indeed, copy/paste works ok. only some markup is not 
copies (as it is in some other spreadsheet program), eg if a row has 
this attribute set, bgcolor='red', this will not be copied to calc.

it is not a big issue, it is a feature, and if it worked, ok nice.

Thanks for the reply !

jef

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Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-11 Thread jef peeraer

On 12/10/2011 05:54 PM, e-letter wrote:

On 10/12/2011, jef peeraerjef.peer...@telenet.be  wrote:

i have a website that generates reports in HTML. it contains nice


What version of html output?
the copy/ special paste works ok, but i loose all special markup (like 
colors, etc..)
it generates html tables, with headers and stuff. So it is not the 
latest HTML (5), just 4 i think



tables, with headers andso. in another spreadsheet program, i can just
ctrl-a, ctrl-c and then ctrl-v, all tables are nicely imported, even the
markup is converted to the spreadsheet.
Can i do this with LO ?



Have you tried yet??? Then tell us the results!
well, i can't use Insert  Link to External Data, because i don't hace 
an URL of that generated report.




thanks for the help

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Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-11 Thread e-letter
On 11/12/2011, jef peeraer jef.peer...@telenet.be wrote:
 On 12/10/2011 05:54 PM, e-letter wrote:
 On 10/12/2011, jef peeraerjef.peer...@telenet.be  wrote:
 i have a website that generates reports in HTML. it contains nice


Not able to generate a csv report? Assuming you are importing into a
spreadsheet to perform data manipulation, why is pretty formatting
necessary?

 tables, with headers andso. in another spreadsheet program, i can just
 ctrl-a, ctrl-c and then ctrl-v, all tables are nicely imported, even the
 markup is converted to the spreadsheet.
 Can i do this with LO ?


What is stopping you to continue using the other spreadsheet?


 Have you tried yet??? Then tell us the results!
 well, i can't use Insert  Link to External Data, because i don't hace
 an URL of that generated report.


What is wrong with the function 'paste special' and the option 'as
html' in the dialogue window?

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[libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-10 Thread jef peeraer
i have a website that generates reports in HTML. it contains nice 
tables, with headers andso. in another spreadsheet program, i can just 
ctrl-a, ctrl-c and then ctrl-v, all tables are nicely imported, even the 
markup is converted to the spreadsheet.

Can i do this with LO ?

jef peeraer

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Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-10 Thread webmaster for Kracked Press Productions


There is an option in Writer called Paste Special.  Then you choose the 
HTML text style.  I do not know if LO can convert HTML based tables 
into rows and columns properly.  There has to be a method to do that, 
but I do not know.


But, it must be done, like Writer does, by a special pasting method.

On 12/10/2011 07:58 AM, jef peeraer wrote:
i have a website that generates reports in HTML. it contains nice 
tables, with headers andso. in another spreadsheet program, i can just 
ctrl-a, ctrl-c and then ctrl-v, all tables are nicely imported, even 
the markup is converted to the spreadsheet.

Can i do this with LO ?

jef peeraer




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Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-10 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Jef,

jef peeraer schrieb:

i have a website that generates reports in HTML. it contains nice
tables, with headers andso. in another spreadsheet program, i can just
ctrl-a, ctrl-c and then ctrl-v, all tables are nicely imported, even the
markup is converted to the spreadsheet.
Can i do this with LO ?


Yes, you can. Do you have difficulties to do so?

You can do even more. You can link to such a table using Insert  Link 
to External Data. After you have entered the URL hit Enter and wait a 
little bit until LO has connected to that site. Then you will see all 
tables in the lower area. Select one and click OK. You can break the 
link and make the data persistent with Edit  Links  Break Link.


Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-10 Thread e-letter
On 10/12/2011, jef peeraer jef.peer...@telenet.be wrote:
 i have a website that generates reports in HTML. it contains nice

What version of html output?

 tables, with headers andso. in another spreadsheet program, i can just
 ctrl-a, ctrl-c and then ctrl-v, all tables are nicely imported, even the
 markup is converted to the spreadsheet.
 Can i do this with LO ?


Have you tried yet??? Then tell us the results!

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Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML

2011-12-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hey, 
Easy tiger!  It would be good to know but people are pretty busy with other 
stuff right now and the thread is still there if it takes a while to respond.  
Relax!  Have fun!  Take a break :)
Regards from
Tom :)


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Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] import from HTML
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Date: Saturday, 10 December, 2011, 16:54

On 10/12/2011, jef peeraer jef.peer...@telenet.be wrote:
 i have a website that generates reports in HTML. it contains nice

What version of html output?

 tables, with headers andso. in another spreadsheet program, i can just
 ctrl-a, ctrl-c and then ctrl-v, all tables are nicely imported, even the
 markup is converted to the spreadsheet.
 Can i do this with LO ?


Have you tried yet??? Then tell us the results!

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