Re: [libreoffice-users] in Calc: Keyboard trouble with Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow

2011-11-02 Thread Stephan Zietsman
David S. Crampton wrote:
 I don't think the bugs described in those 2 articles are the same behavior
 issue. Those descriptions and the discussion of is it a bug or is it
 emulating Excel are too dense for my brain at least this evening.
 [...]
 In short, I think I'm reporting something different.

Please file a bug report (bugs.freedesktop.org).  But first make sure
to check if someone has not reported it already.  Please let us know
when you've reported (or found) the bug, along with the bug number;
I'd like to add my comments.

Regards
Stephan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] in Calc: Keyboard trouble with Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow

2011-11-02 Thread David S. Crampton

I entered my description into Bugzilla:

Assigned Bug # 42535
Bug 42535 - Editing UI: Ctrl+Shift-RightArrow faulty extension result
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On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 23:30:34 -0700, Stephan Zietsman szi...@gmail.com  
wrote:



David S. Crampton wrote:
I don't think the bugs described in those 2 articles are the same  
behavior

issue. Those descriptions and the discussion of is it a bug or is it
emulating Excel are too dense for my brain at least this evening.
[...]
In short, I think I'm reporting something different.


Please file a bug report (bugs.freedesktop.org).  But first make sure
to check if someone has not reported it already.  Please let us know
when you've reported (or found) the bug, along with the bug number;
I'd like to add my comments.

Regards
Stephan


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Re: [libreoffice-users] in Calc: Keyboard trouble with Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow

2011-11-01 Thread Stephan Zietsman
David S. Crampton wrote:
 The keystokes:
 In L154: Ctrl+C
 Down Arrow: moves to L155
 Ctrl+V: paste
 Esc: terminate the dotted border focus on L154
 F2: make the small edit
 Enter: terminate the edit
 Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow: SHOULD extend to AB156 where it finds the next filled
 cell in the row.
 ~: ACTUALLY extends selection to the entire column L.
 ()

 This unexpected column selection is, of course, very disorienting to one's
 eyeballs and brain.

This behaviour sounds similar to a bug that I've come across before.
Please have a look through these bug reports and let us know if this
is what you're talking about:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39212
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37230

If these bugs address your problem, please add your comments to them.

Regards
Stephan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] in Calc: Keyboard trouble with Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow

2011-11-01 Thread Stephan Zietsman
David S. Crampton wrote:
 The keystokes:
 In L154: Ctrl+C
 Down Arrow: moves to L155
 Ctrl+V: paste
 Esc: terminate the dotted border focus on L154
 F2: make the small edit
 Enter: terminate the edit
 Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow: SHOULD extend to AB156 where it finds the next filled
 cell in the row.
 ~: ACTUALLY extends selection to the entire column L.
 ()

I just tried your example (after I posted my reply).  I find that the
selection is actually extended to K1:L155, which means it selects
column K and column L (but not the entire column, only up to row 155).
 This is very strange behaviour, as it actually extends the selection
to the *left*, although I pressed Ctrl + Shift + RightArrow.  If
you've found the bug report that describes your behaviour best, let me
know so I can also add my comments to it.

Regards
Stephan

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Re: [libreoffice-users] in Calc: Keyboard trouble with Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow

2011-11-01 Thread David S. Crampton

Stephan,

I don't think the bugs described in those 2 articles are the same  
behavior issue. Those descriptions and the discussion of is it a bug or  
is it emulating Excel are too dense for my brain at least this evening.


I'm an experienced, if somewhat uncreative, Excel user. I never tried to  
extend a range dependent on the filled range of an adjacent column/row.   
My thought process in observing the behavior on which I reported had no  
such expectation.


In short, I think I'm reporting something different.

David

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:36:08 -0700, Stephan Zietsman szi...@gmail.com  
wrote:



David S. Crampton wrote:

The keystokes:
In L154: Ctrl+C
Down Arrow: moves to L155
Ctrl+V: paste
Esc: terminate the dotted border focus on L154
F2: make the small edit
Enter: terminate the edit
Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow: SHOULD extend to AB156 where it finds the next  
filled

cell in the row.
~: ACTUALLY extends selection to the entire column  
L.

()

This unexpected column selection is, of course, very disorienting to  
one's

eyeballs and brain.


This behaviour sounds similar to a bug that I've come across before.
Please have a look through these bug reports and let us know if this
is what you're talking about:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39212
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37230

If these bugs address your problem, please add your comments to them.

Regards
Stephan


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[libreoffice-users] in Calc: Keyboard trouble with Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow

2011-10-31 Thread David S. Crampton

Context:
in Calc of LO 3.4.3 on WinXP Pro
The cell range L155:AA155 contains empty cells. The cells on either end of  
that range are filled with numbers. The cell above L155 contains a  
formula. The task is to copy the formula from L154 to L155, make an edit,  
extend the range from L155 to AA155, Edit | Fill Right.


The keystokes:
In L154: Ctrl+C
Down Arrow: moves to L155
Ctrl+V: paste
Esc: terminate the dotted border focus on L154
F2: make the small edit
Enter: terminate the edit
Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow: SHOULD extend to AB156 where it finds the next  
filled cell in the row.
~: ACTUALLY extends selection to the entire column L.  
()


This unexpected column selection is, of course, very disorienting to one's  
eyeballs and brain.


Workaround
start as above until:
F2: make the small edit
Enter: terminate the edit
RightArrow (once): shift focus from L155 to M155
LeftArrow (once): shift focus from M155 to L155
Ctrl+Shift+RightArrow: SHOULD and DOES extend to AB156 where it finds the  
next filled cell in the row.


I use the M$ Natural Keyboard. The defective behavior results using either  
of the possible keys for RightArrow: the 4-keypad compass set or the  
NumberPad (NumLock off).


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