[libreoffice-users] locked docx file

2013-09-22 Thread Info/UX

Hi,

I am having a strange problem with a locked docx file. The file opens, 
it does not appear to be using LO's read only mode, but when I try to 
edit a file, for example when I delete some text, it simply inserts a 
strikethrough and changes the text colour. I can see all the last 
editor's corrections in a similar manner.


I tried using the edit document button, turning off read only mode in 
file--properties and tools--options--security, and saving as .odt. No 
luck. I managed to rescue the content by copying and pasting into a new 
odt... and strangely all the last editors changes were 
implemented/hidden rather than being shown with a strikethrough, but 
this meant that some of the comments attached to deleted text were also 
removed.


Any idea what is going on here?

Thanks.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] locked docx file

2013-09-22 Thread Brian Barker

At 14:11 22/09/2013 +0100, Nobody Noname wrote:
I am having a strange problem with a locked docx file. The file 
opens, it does not appear to be using LO's read only mode, but when 
I try to edit a file, for example when I delete some text, it simply 
inserts a strikethrough and changes the text colour. I can see all 
the last editor's corrections in a similar manner.


I tried using the edit document button, turning off read only mode 
in file--properties and tools--options--security, and saving as 
.odt. No luck. I managed to rescue the content by copying and 
pasting into a new odt... and strangely all the last editors changes 
were implemented/hidden rather than being shown with a 
strikethrough, but this meant that some of the comments attached to 
deleted text were also removed.


Any idea what is going on here?


Yes: you have the recording of changes switched on.  In general, you 
can disable this by removing the tick from Edit | Changes  | Record.


But this may be intentional.  You mention a previous editor.  If this 
material is to be returned to that editor, he or she will not want to 
consider the entire document again from scratch to see what you may 
or may not have altered, but will want to be able to see exactly what 
changes you have made.  If it is to be passed to someone else, they 
will want to see both the changes you have made and - hopefully 
separately - the previous changes.  It is possible in Microsoft Word 
to lock what Word calls Track Changes, so the document can be edited 
but you cannot disable the recording of changes.  I don't know 
whether that locking carries over into LibreOffice and back into 
Word, but I'd hope it would - and it sounds as though it has.


If this is the actual scenario, the previous editor will not thank 
you for upsetting the protocol by creating a new document!  If you 
prefer, you may be able to suppress the display of your and other 
changes changes at Edit | Changes  | Show.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] locked docx file

2013-09-22 Thread Info/UX


On 22/09/13 14:42, Brian Barker wrote:

At 14:11 22/09/2013 +0100, Nobody Noname wrote:
I am having a strange problem with a locked docx file. The file 
opens, it does not appear to be using LO's read only mode, but when I 
try to edit a file, for example when I delete some text, it simply 
inserts a strikethrough and changes the text colour. I can see all 
the last editor's corrections in a similar manner.


I tried using the edit document button, turning off read only mode 
in file--properties and tools--options--security, and saving as 
.odt. No luck. I managed to rescue the content by copying and pasting 
into a new odt... and strangely all the last editors changes were 
implemented/hidden rather than being shown with a strikethrough, but 
this meant that some of the comments attached to deleted text were 
also removed.


Any idea what is going on here?


Yes: you have the recording of changes switched on.  In general, you 
can disable this by removing the tick from Edit | Changes  | Record.


But this may be intentional.  You mention a previous editor.  If this 
material is to be returned to that editor, he or she will not want to 
consider the entire document again from scratch to see what you may or 
may not have altered, but will want to be able to see exactly what 
changes you have made.  If it is to be passed to someone else, they 
will want to see both the changes you have made and - hopefully 
separately - the previous changes.  It is possible in Microsoft Word 
to lock what Word calls Track Changes, so the document can be edited 
but you cannot disable the recording of changes.  I don't know whether 
that locking carries over into LibreOffice and back into Word, but I'd 
hope it would - and it sounds as though it has.


If this is the actual scenario, the previous editor will not thank you 
for upsetting the protocol by creating a new document!  If you prefer, 
you may be able to suppress the display of your and other changes 
changes at Edit | Changes  | Show.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker

Thanks, Brian.

That works. I can show/hide and choose to record changes with those 
options. Although you are correct regarding good editing protocol, I 
think in this case the options had been turned on by mistake at some 
point.. at least displaying the changes anyhow. It only happened on one 
of the documents I have to work on. In general, the editor is happy for 
me to format the articles and make some small edits. I am not sure we're 
tracking changes to the degree we should be. Before this quirk, I had 
been copying and pasting articles' content into a template and saving as 
ODT in order to get consistent documents and remove any MS quirks. Maybe 
that was not the best method afterall and I could have saved the docs as 
.odt then loaded the templates styles using the overwrite option -- 
but I'd been experieincing some quirks there and had discussed the best 
way to go about things on this list beforehand. I think my method is ok 
for the current project.. but no doubt I could improve the process as I 
learn more.


Regards,
Ryan






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