Re: [libreoffice-users] paypal

2013-11-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I am guessing you haven't looked at the official LibreOffice downloads
page for several months.   Yes it is Free but to a new person it looks
like we are demanding money, until they spot the clues.  Still the
default donation set on the page is $10 which even i could probably
pay without too much angst = especially when compared with some of the
alternatives!
Regards from
Tom :)


On 18 November 2013 18:01, Doug  wrote:
> On 11/18/2013 09:57 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
>> Hi :)
>> James didn't get quite far enough.  It's a page or so further on.  The
>> way page is set-up it does look as though you do HAVE TO make a
>> donation before the download will start.  It's only the geeks that
>> will notice their own web-browser is the only thing blocking the
>> download from really starting.
>>
>> The marketing team did discuss this and various other options but the
>> technology is not quite their yet to allow the whole thing to be more
>> polite and less demanding.  After a lot of discussion they finally
>> settled on doing the same as other projects, such as Ubuntu and many
>> others.
>>
>> Actually Ubuntu's is more demanding.  With them you get a list of
>> areas where you suggest which areas you want your donation to be
>> targeted towards (with no promise it will be used for that (to avoid
>> accountancy nightmares)) and you have to scroll all the way down to
>> the bottom of the page before you see something like "get me out of
>> here, skip all this and just do the download"
>>
>>
>> If i hadn't been so involved in the discussion in marketing then i
>> would probably have stopped around the same point as James tbh.  It's
>> only because i was so irate at the time that i went further to check.
>> As it's turned out it's not been quite as bad as i feared.  There have
>> only been a couple people who didn't quite notice and then grumbled
>> about something.
>>
>> The technology nearly is there but it's not smooth and doesn't always
>> work reliably on all systems and all web-browsers.
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>> On 18 November 2013 13:15, James Knott  wrote:
>>> josephine mcdonald wrote:
 hi, i donated $10.00 via pay-pal 11/18/13... but now i'm having trouble 
 downloading libreoffice.. i can't get past the page asking for a 
 donation?? can you help?
>>>
>>> You don''t have to make a donation to download, though it's certainly
>>> appreciated.  Where are you trying to download from?  I just tried
>>> www.libreoffice.org and the only mention of donation was at the bottom
>>> of the first page.  I was able to go directly to the download page
>>> without having to make any donation.
>>>
>>> --
> LO is free. That's FREE! It even comes with a lot of Linux distros, no
> cash needed. You should look for another download site--somebody's
> trying to rip you off!
>
> --doug
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Re: [libreoffice-users] paypal

2013-11-18 Thread Brian Barker

At 13:01 18/11/2013 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
LO is free. That's FREE! It even comes with a lot of Linux distros, 
no cash needed. You should look for another download 
site--somebody's trying to rip you off!


That's simply untrue, of course.  The official LibreOffice web site 
(which the questioner is very probably using) invites donations, and 
it isn't trying "rip anyone off".


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] paypal

2013-11-18 Thread Doug
On 11/18/2013 09:57 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
> Hi :)
> James didn't get quite far enough.  It's a page or so further on.  The
> way page is set-up it does look as though you do HAVE TO make a
> donation before the download will start.  It's only the geeks that
> will notice their own web-browser is the only thing blocking the
> download from really starting.
> 
> The marketing team did discuss this and various other options but the
> technology is not quite their yet to allow the whole thing to be more
> polite and less demanding.  After a lot of discussion they finally
> settled on doing the same as other projects, such as Ubuntu and many
> others.
> 
> Actually Ubuntu's is more demanding.  With them you get a list of
> areas where you suggest which areas you want your donation to be
> targeted towards (with no promise it will be used for that (to avoid
> accountancy nightmares)) and you have to scroll all the way down to
> the bottom of the page before you see something like "get me out of
> here, skip all this and just do the download"
> 
> 
> If i hadn't been so involved in the discussion in marketing then i
> would probably have stopped around the same point as James tbh.  It's
> only because i was so irate at the time that i went further to check.
> As it's turned out it's not been quite as bad as i feared.  There have
> only been a couple people who didn't quite notice and then grumbled
> about something.
> 
> The technology nearly is there but it's not smooth and doesn't always
> work reliably on all systems and all web-browsers.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
> 
> 
> On 18 November 2013 13:15, James Knott  wrote:
>> josephine mcdonald wrote:
>>> hi, i donated $10.00 via pay-pal 11/18/13... but now i'm having trouble 
>>> downloading libreoffice.. i can't get past the page asking for a donation?? 
>>> can you help?
>>
>> You don''t have to make a donation to download, though it's certainly
>> appreciated.  Where are you trying to download from?  I just tried
>> www.libreoffice.org and the only mention of donation was at the bottom
>> of the first page.  I was able to go directly to the download page
>> without having to make any donation.
>>
>> --
LO is free. That's FREE! It even comes with a lot of Linux distros, no
cash needed. You should look for another download site--somebody's
trying to rip you off!

--doug

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Re: [libreoffice-users] paypal

2013-11-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
James didn't get quite far enough.  It's a page or so further on.  The
way page is set-up it does look as though you do HAVE TO make a
donation before the download will start.  It's only the geeks that
will notice their own web-browser is the only thing blocking the
download from really starting.

The marketing team did discuss this and various other options but the
technology is not quite their yet to allow the whole thing to be more
polite and less demanding.  After a lot of discussion they finally
settled on doing the same as other projects, such as Ubuntu and many
others.

Actually Ubuntu's is more demanding.  With them you get a list of
areas where you suggest which areas you want your donation to be
targeted towards (with no promise it will be used for that (to avoid
accountancy nightmares)) and you have to scroll all the way down to
the bottom of the page before you see something like "get me out of
here, skip all this and just do the download"


If i hadn't been so involved in the discussion in marketing then i
would probably have stopped around the same point as James tbh.  It's
only because i was so irate at the time that i went further to check.
As it's turned out it's not been quite as bad as i feared.  There have
only been a couple people who didn't quite notice and then grumbled
about something.

The technology nearly is there but it's not smooth and doesn't always
work reliably on all systems and all web-browsers.
Regards from
Tom :)


On 18 November 2013 13:15, James Knott  wrote:
> josephine mcdonald wrote:
>> hi, i donated $10.00 via pay-pal 11/18/13... but now i'm having trouble 
>> downloading libreoffice.. i can't get past the page asking for a donation??  
>>can you help?
>
> You don''t have to make a donation to download, though it's certainly
> appreciated.  Where are you trying to download from?  I just tried
> www.libreoffice.org and the only mention of donation was at the bottom
> of the first page.  I was able to go directly to the download page
> without having to make any donation.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] paypal

2013-11-18 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Thanks for the donation!  You don't need to make a new contribution
each time.  Anyway some people contribute in other ways such as by
working in one of the teams or by helping out in one of the User
Support places.

>From this page
http://donate.libreoffice.org/home/dl/win-x86/4.1.3/en-GB/LibreOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86.msi
(or whichever language or platform or version you chose) the download
should start automatically but if it doesn't then in the top paragraph
is a green link saying something like
"LibreOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86.msi"
so just click on that.

Errr, it has just occurred to me that if you are using Firefox then it
might be blocking you from downloading things by accident.  Many
people install all kinds of nasty things by accident so Firefox
attempts to warn you when you are downloading  anything.  So, in
Firefox look just under the top taskbars&tabs to see if there is a
grey bar with a button at the far right saying "Allow".  Once you see
that button check what that grey-bar says on the far left to make sure
it sound vaguely correct.  if it does sound reasonable then click on
the "Allow" button.

Sorry to be so vague!  We could be more precise if we knew which
platform you are using;  Windows (ie Xp, Vista, Win7, Win8 etc), Mac,
Gnu&Linux (ie openSuSE, Ubuntu, Mint, Mageia etc).  Also which version
and (human) language.  Plus which web-browser you are using.  However,
i suspect you can probably figure it out from my vague paragraphs
above.

Regards from
Tom :)





On 18 November 2013 12:04, josephine mcdonald  wrote:
> hi, i donated $10.00 via pay-pal 11/18/13... but now i'm having trouble 
> downloading libreoffice.. i can't get past the page asking for a donation??   
>   can you help?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] paypal

2013-11-18 Thread James Knott
josephine mcdonald wrote:
> hi, i donated $10.00 via pay-pal 11/18/13... but now i'm having trouble 
> downloading libreoffice.. i can't get past the page asking for a donation??   
>   can you help?

You don''t have to make a donation to download, though it's certainly
appreciated.  Where are you trying to download from?  I just tried
www.libreoffice.org and the only mention of donation was at the bottom
of the first page.  I was able to go directly to the download page
without having to make any donation.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] paypal

2013-11-18 Thread Dries Feys
Hi Josephine,

At the upper side of the download page, you should see the following :

Your download LibreOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86.msi should begin shortly.

In case the download doesn't start automatically, you can click on the filename.


Met vriendelijke groeten, Salutations distinguées, Kind Regards,

DRIES FEYS
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> hi, i donated $10.00 via pay-pal 11/18/13... but now i'm having trouble 
> downloading libreoffice.. i can't get past the page asking for a donation??   
>   can you help?
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[libreoffice-users] paypal

2013-11-18 Thread josephine mcdonald
hi, i donated $10.00 via pay-pal 11/18/13... but now i'm having trouble 
downloading libreoffice.. i can't get past the page asking for a donation?? 
can you help?
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Paypal phishing warning

2011-06-09 Thread Caesar
On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 23:39:31 -0700, MR ZenWiz 
wrote Re [libreoffice-users] Paypal phishing warning:

>Sorry for the cross-post, and off-topic at that, but:

Thanks for the warning.

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[libreoffice-users] Paypal phishing warning

2011-06-08 Thread MR ZenWiz
Sorry for the cross-post, and off-topic at that, but:

This morning I received a very authentic looking email from
info.paypal.com, claiming that Paypal wanted me to update my browser.
(Really.)

It had my name in it and all the right graphics and colors and everything.

Except that the from site was info.paypal.com (whoever they are: hint
- not paypal.com) and the links all had long obfuscated links in them.

I verified with paypal that it was not legitimate, so I though you
might all be warned as well.

You may now return to the appropriate technical discussions

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