Re: [libreoffice-users] printing non-standard page sizes

2011-07-22 Thread Matthew Monaco

On 07/22/2011 08:32 PM, planas wrote:

Hi Matthew,

On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 11:43 -0400, Matthew Monaco wrote:


On 07/22/2011 08:17 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Matthew Monaco schrieb:

I've always had a lot of trouble printing when I setup a custom page
size in the page properties. It seems like the print dialog tries to
find the best fit of the predefined page sizes.


Yes. The printer "tells" what paper size it is able to handle. And LO searches
the best fitting from them. Unfortunately, the printer does not "tell" whether
this paper size is really available. So your printer might go into a waiting
mode and you have to enter the paper manually.

Furthermore, I have no

clue what the manual option is attempting to do.

Is there something I'm missing here?


The behavior is different for Writer, Calc, Draw and Impress. Generally there
are two ways to get fitting of page format and paper size. You can tell your
printer what to do. For example my printer can print with scaling 80%. Or you
can tell LO what to do. Especially Draw and Calc have a lot of options.

You should describe a concrete task, if you want detailed help.

Kind regards
Regina



Ok, concrete task: printing envelopes (writer).

Set page size to 6.3 x 4.7 (landscape).

Type out address and return address.

File>  Print>>  _select printer_>>  properties button>>  paper tab

No matter what I do here I cannot print correctly to a specified paper size.
Either the text becomes distorted or it prints outside the bounds of the page.
However, I know I'm capable of printing to this size just fine because I can
from Abiword, gedit, firefox, etc. They all use a standard print dialog.

I like LO a lot more, but I'm forced to use Abiword whenever printing envelopes.



You could try setting the page size to the appropriate envelope size by
using FORMAT>>PAGE and under the Page Tab in the Paper Format section
select the correct Format in the Format list box.


When there happens to be an envelope sizes the corresponds, everything is OK. 
However not all envelopes are standard.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] printing non-standard page sizes

2011-07-22 Thread planas
Hi Matthew,

On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 11:43 -0400, Matthew Monaco wrote:

> On 07/22/2011 08:17 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> > Hi Matthew,
> >
> > Matthew Monaco schrieb:
> >> I've always had a lot of trouble printing when I setup a custom page
> >> size in the page properties. It seems like the print dialog tries to
> >> find the best fit of the predefined page sizes.
> >
> > Yes. The printer "tells" what paper size it is able to handle. And LO 
> > searches
> > the best fitting from them. Unfortunately, the printer does not "tell" 
> > whether
> > this paper size is really available. So your printer might go into a waiting
> > mode and you have to enter the paper manually.
> >
> > Furthermore, I have no
> >> clue what the manual option is attempting to do.
> >>
> >> Is there something I'm missing here?
> >
> > The behavior is different for Writer, Calc, Draw and Impress. Generally 
> > there
> > are two ways to get fitting of page format and paper size. You can tell your
> > printer what to do. For example my printer can print with scaling 80%. Or 
> > you
> > can tell LO what to do. Especially Draw and Calc have a lot of options.
> >
> > You should describe a concrete task, if you want detailed help.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Regina
> >
> 
> Ok, concrete task: printing envelopes (writer).
> 
> Set page size to 6.3 x 4.7 (landscape).
> 
> Type out address and return address.
> 
> File > Print >> _select printer_ >> properties button >> paper tab
> 
> No matter what I do here I cannot print correctly to a specified paper size. 
> Either the text becomes distorted or it prints outside the bounds of the 
> page. 
> However, I know I'm capable of printing to this size just fine because I can 
> from Abiword, gedit, firefox, etc. They all use a standard print dialog.
> 
> I like LO a lot more, but I'm forced to use Abiword whenever printing 
> envelopes.
> 

You could try setting the page size to the appropriate envelope size by
using FORMAT>>PAGE and under the Page Tab in the Paper Format section
select the correct Format in the Format list box.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] printing non-standard page sizes

2011-07-22 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Matthew,

Matthew Monaco schrieb:

On 07/22/2011 08:17 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Matthew Monaco schrieb:

I've always had a lot of trouble printing when I setup a custom page
size in the page properties. It seems like the print dialog tries to
find the best fit of the predefined page sizes.


Yes. The printer "tells" what paper size it is able to handle. And LO
searches
the best fitting from them. Unfortunately, the printer does not "tell"
whether
this paper size is really available. So your printer might go into a
waiting
mode and you have to enter the paper manually.

Furthermore, I have no

clue what the manual option is attempting to do.

Is there something I'm missing here?


The behavior is different for Writer, Calc, Draw and Impress.
Generally there
are two ways to get fitting of page format and paper size. You can
tell your
printer what to do. For example my printer can print with scaling 80%.
Or you
can tell LO what to do. Especially Draw and Calc have a lot of options.

You should describe a concrete task, if you want detailed help.

Kind regards
Regina



Ok, concrete task: printing envelopes (writer).

Set page size to 6.3 x 4.7 (landscape).

Type out address and return address.

File > Print >> _select printer_ >> properties button >> paper tab

No matter what I do here I cannot print correctly to a specified paper
size. Either the text becomes distorted or it prints outside the bounds
of the page. However, I know I'm capable of printing to this size just
fine because I can from Abiword, gedit, firefox, etc. They all use a
standard print dialog.

I like LO a lot more, but I'm forced to use Abiword whenever printing
envelopes.



Printing with Linux is different from printing with Windows, so please 
ask the Linux experts how to proper install the printer. Sometimes OOo 
is more sensible against wrong settings than other applications. I have 
only Windows and cannot help you with that.


Printing an envelope is a very special thing. If the straight print does 
not work, you need a trick. The page size is set to your default paper 
size (likely A4 or letter). The position of the letter on the paper is 
set by the margins in the page layout. The envelope wizards tries to 
generate such a page layout. But it might fail and then you have to 
figure it out by yourself. Printers differ in the way they handle 
envelopes, so it might help to find someone, who owns the same printer 
as you.


Kind regards
Regina


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Re: [libreoffice-users] printing non-standard page sizes

2011-07-22 Thread Matthew Monaco

On 07/22/2011 08:17 AM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Matthew,

Matthew Monaco schrieb:

I've always had a lot of trouble printing when I setup a custom page
size in the page properties. It seems like the print dialog tries to
find the best fit of the predefined page sizes.


Yes. The printer "tells" what paper size it is able to handle. And LO searches
the best fitting from them. Unfortunately, the printer does not "tell" whether
this paper size is really available. So your printer might go into a waiting
mode and you have to enter the paper manually.

Furthermore, I have no

clue what the manual option is attempting to do.

Is there something I'm missing here?


The behavior is different for Writer, Calc, Draw and Impress. Generally there
are two ways to get fitting of page format and paper size. You can tell your
printer what to do. For example my printer can print with scaling 80%. Or you
can tell LO what to do. Especially Draw and Calc have a lot of options.

You should describe a concrete task, if you want detailed help.

Kind regards
Regina



Ok, concrete task: printing envelopes (writer).

Set page size to 6.3 x 4.7 (landscape).

Type out address and return address.

File > Print >> _select printer_ >> properties button >> paper tab

No matter what I do here I cannot print correctly to a specified paper size. 
Either the text becomes distorted or it prints outside the bounds of the page. 
However, I know I'm capable of printing to this size just fine because I can 
from Abiword, gedit, firefox, etc. They all use a standard print dialog.


I like LO a lot more, but I'm forced to use Abiword whenever printing envelopes.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] printing non-standard page sizes

2011-07-22 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Matthew,

Matthew Monaco schrieb:

I've always had a lot of trouble printing when I setup a custom page
size in the page properties. It seems like the print dialog tries to
find the best fit of the predefined page sizes.


Yes. The printer "tells" what paper size it is able to handle. And LO 
searches the best fitting from them. Unfortunately, the printer does not 
"tell" whether this paper size is really available. So your printer 
might go into a waiting mode and you have to enter the paper manually.


 Furthermore, I have no

clue what the manual option is attempting to do.

Is there something I'm missing here?


The behavior is different for Writer, Calc, Draw and Impress. Generally 
there are two ways to get fitting of page format and paper size. You can 
tell your printer what to do. For example my printer can print with 
scaling 80%. Or you can tell LO what to do. Especially Draw and Calc 
have a lot of options.


You should describe a concrete task, if you want detailed help.

Kind regards
Regina

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[libreoffice-users] printing non-standard page sizes

2011-07-21 Thread Matthew Monaco
I've always had a lot of trouble printing when I setup a custom page size in the 
page properties. It seems like the print dialog tries to find the best fit of 
the predefined page sizes. Furthermore, I have no clue what the manual option is 
attempting to do.


Is there something I'm missing here?

LibreOffice 3.4.2rc2
Linux 2.6.39
CUPS 1.4.7

Also, why does Libre use it's own print dialog? Other programs that use the 
uniform dialog (like gedit and Abiword) have no problem with funky page sizes.


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