Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)
Hi Everyone, Tom: as you red in my previous post in the discuss list yesterday I have opened this issue: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64428 but, thanking to Andras Timar, I have closed it just now because it probably is an Adobe Acrobat Reader 11.0.2 bug/issue!!! Take a look at the comments in the bugs... Have All a nice eventing, Carlo ing. Carlo Strata - via Botticelli 1/4 30031 Dolo - VE Italia - Italy - tel./fax +39.041.822.0665 cell. +39.347.85.69.824 Skype carlo.strata Google carlo.strata.69 - carlo.str...@tiscali.it PEC: carlo.str...@ingpec.eu Il 10/05/2013 15.11, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) It might be good to keep the discussion to this thread on the Users List for now. Lets see what other people say and what bug-reports you find about this. Perhaps move it up the "chain of command" after that. I've just noticed that we have been cross-posting all this time. it's better to stick to 1 list at a time for most things. "- so I don't see the reason to recursively (!!!) substitute the "%" character when an URL is input in LibreOffice because "%" itself is already an accepted one;" A big +1 to that! I don't know why it's being done either. It makes no sense that it happens that way. Regards from Tom :) *From:* Carlo Strata *To:* Tom Davies *Cc:* Florian Reisinger ; "TDF, discuss" ; "LibreOffice, users" *Sent:* Friday, 10 May 2013, 9:03 *Subject:* Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones) Hi Everyone, as I told yesterday in my first mail I will look for an already created issue and if not I will create it. When I make this? Now! ;-) In any case I will make you know what I do. @Tom: I think that: - on URLs, browsers - but maybe a behaviour stated on a well determined W3 Standard or similar open Consortium - substitute spaces with %20 hex character code; - %20 (!!!): that means that "%", "2" and "0" are all (!) well admitted characters, all (!!!); - so I don't see the reason to recursively (!!!) substitute the "%" character when an URL is input in LibreOffice because "%" it self is already an accepted one; - another low probability hypotheses in my head was that LibreOffice translate the space on a full 16 bit space character coding, but your explain about %25 representing the "%" hex code, rapidly make me clear what was happened; - in any case (!), if you open the with-space link directly from a Writer document (ctrl+click for friends o chaps ;-) ) you will get the right page: in other words the link behave correctly! So the problem on pdf link behaviour has to be fixed in LibreOffice too!!! :-) But I do not think is a too hard to do, is not it? Now I will go to open or vote an existing issue and come back here soon. I think we could also to maintain only one discuss: I will suggest the tdf-discuss one, what do you think about? Have All a sunny day, Carlo I ing. Carlo Strata - via Botticelli 1/4 30031 Dolo - VE Italia - Italy - tel./fax +39.041.822.0665 cell. +39.347.85.69.824 Skype carlo.strata Google carlo.strata.69 - carlo.str...@tiscali.it <mailto:carlo.str...@tiscali.it> PEC: carlo.str...@ingpec.eu <mailto:carlo.str...@ingpec.eu> Il 10/05/2013 08.28, Tom Davies ha scritto: > Hi :) > I don't know if there is one for LibreOffice yet. > > People have tried to show me how to look things up in the bug-report place but for some reason i can never quite manage it myself. > > Also i'm not sure if just solving the problem in LibreOffice would make the problem go away. It seems to be further "upstream" with fairly major projects having to deal with it separately. is it possible to post a bug-report against "the internet"? > Apols and regards form > Tom :) > > > > > >> >> From: Florian Reisinger mailto:reisi...@gmail.com>> >> To: Tom Davies mailto:tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk>> >> Cc: Carlo Strata mailto:carlo.str...@tiscali.it>>; "TDF, discuss" mailto:disc...@documentfoundation.org>>; "LibreOffice, users" mailto:users@global.libreoffice.org>> >> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 16:37 >> Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)
Hi :) It might be good to keep the discussion to this thread on the Users List for now. Lets see what other people say and what bug-reports you find about this. Perhaps move it up the "chain of command" after that. I've just noticed that we have been cross-posting all this time. it's better to stick to 1 list at a time for most things. "- so I don't see the reason to recursively (!!!) substitute the "%" character when an URL is input in LibreOffice because "%" itself is already an accepted one;" A big +1 to that! I don't know why it's being done either. It makes no sense that it happens that way. Regards from Tom :) > > From: Carlo Strata >To: Tom Davies >Cc: Florian Reisinger ; "TDF, discuss" >; "LibreOffice, users" > >Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013, 9:03 >Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] >Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as >%2520 ones) > > >Hi Everyone, > >as I told yesterday in my first mail I will look for an already created >issue and if not I will create it. When I make this? Now! ;-) >In any case I will make you know what I do. > >@Tom: > >I think that: >- on URLs, browsers - but maybe a behaviour stated on a well determined >W3 Standard or similar open Consortium - substitute spaces with %20 hex >character code; >- %20 (!!!): that means that "%", "2" and "0" are all (!) well admitted >characters, all (!!!); >- so I don't see the reason to recursively (!!!) substitute the "%" >character when an URL is input in LibreOffice because "%" it self is >already an accepted one; >- another low probability hypotheses in my head was that LibreOffice >translate the space on a full 16 bit space character coding, but your >explain about %25 representing the "%" hex code, rapidly make me clear >what was happened; >- in any case (!), if you open the with-space link directly from a >Writer document (ctrl+click for friends o chaps ;-) ) you will get the >right page: in other words the link behave correctly! So the problem on >pdf link behaviour has to be fixed in LibreOffice too!!! :-) But I do >not think is a too hard to do, is not it? > >Now I will go to open or vote an existing issue and come back here soon. >I think we could also to maintain only one discuss: I will suggest the >tdf-discuss one, what do you think about? > >Have All a sunny day, > >Carlo > >I > >ing. Carlo Strata >- >via Botticelli 1/4 >30031 Dolo - VE >Italia - Italy >- >tel./fax +39.041.822.0665 >cell. +39.347.85.69.824 >Skype carlo.strata >Google carlo.strata.69 >- >carlo.str...@tiscali.it >PEC: carlo.str...@ingpec.eu > >Il 10/05/2013 08.28, Tom Davies ha scritto: >> Hi :) >> I don't know if there is one for LibreOffice yet. >> >> People have tried to show me how to look things up in the bug-report place >> but for some reason i can never quite manage it myself. >> >> Also i'm not sure if just solving the problem in LibreOffice would make the >> problem go away. It seems to be further "upstream" with fairly major >> projects having to deal with it separately. is it possible to post a >> bug-report against "the internet"? >> Apols and regards form >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> From: Florian Reisinger >>> To: Tom Davies >>> Cc: Carlo Strata ; "TDF, discuss" >>> ; "LibreOffice, users" >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 16:37 >>> Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] >>> Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported >>> as %2520 ones) >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Does a bug report exist yet? >>> >>> Liebe Grüße, / Yours, >>> Florian Reisinger >>> >>> Am 09.05.2013 um 14:10 schrieb Tom Davies : >>> >>>> Hi :) >>>> %25 is the code for a % symbol so the 'wrong' link is not really wrong >>>> after all. It's just a bit odd and unnecessary. In the 'wrong' link >>>> replace all the %25s with % so that %2520 becomes %20 and then the >>>> apparently 'wrong' link looks right. It's a good reason for avoiding >>>> spaces and non-standard characters in Urls. CamelCase is much less prone >>>
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)
Hi, Am 10.05.2013 08:28, schrieb Tom Davies: Hi :) I don't know if there is one for LibreOffice yet. Please have a look and file one (https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/bug/) People have tried to show me how to look things up in the bug-report place but for some reason i can never quite manage it myself. Feel free to ask at the IRC channel libreoffice-qa Also i'm not sure if just solving the problem in LibreOffice would make the problem go away. It seems to be further "upstream" with fairly major projects having to deal with it separately. is it possible to post a bug-report against "the internet"? Apols and regards form Tom :) Nope not possible, at least how far I know :) [Cutting the unnecessary things away] -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)
Hi Everyone, as I told yesterday in my first mail I will look for an already created issue and if not I will create it. When I make this? Now! ;-) In any case I will make you know what I do. @Tom: I think that: - on URLs, browsers - but maybe a behaviour stated on a well determined W3 Standard or similar open Consortium - substitute spaces with %20 hex character code; - %20 (!!!): that means that "%", "2" and "0" are all (!) well admitted characters, all (!!!); - so I don't see the reason to recursively (!!!) substitute the "%" character when an URL is input in LibreOffice because "%" it self is already an accepted one; - another low probability hypotheses in my head was that LibreOffice translate the space on a full 16 bit space character coding, but your explain about %25 representing the "%" hex code, rapidly make me clear what was happened; - in any case (!), if you open the with-space link directly from a Writer document (ctrl+click for friends o chaps ;-) ) you will get the right page: in other words the link behave correctly! So the problem on pdf link behaviour has to be fixed in LibreOffice too!!! :-) But I do not think is a too hard to do, is not it? Now I will go to open or vote an existing issue and come back here soon. I think we could also to maintain only one discuss: I will suggest the tdf-discuss one, what do you think about? Have All a sunny day, Carlo I ing. Carlo Strata - via Botticelli 1/4 30031 Dolo - VE Italia - Italy - tel./fax +39.041.822.0665 cell. +39.347.85.69.824 Skype carlo.strata Google carlo.strata.69 - carlo.str...@tiscali.it PEC: carlo.str...@ingpec.eu Il 10/05/2013 08.28, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) I don't know if there is one for LibreOffice yet. People have tried to show me how to look things up in the bug-report place but for some reason i can never quite manage it myself. Also i'm not sure if just solving the problem in LibreOffice would make the problem go away. It seems to be further "upstream" with fairly major projects having to deal with it separately. is it possible to post a bug-report against "the internet"? Apols and regards form Tom :) From: Florian Reisinger To: Tom Davies Cc: Carlo Strata ; "TDF, discuss" ; "LibreOffice, users" Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 16:37 Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones) Hi, Does a bug report exist yet? Liebe Grüße, / Yours, Florian Reisinger Am 09.05.2013 um 14:10 schrieb Tom Davies : Hi :) %25 is the code for a % symbol so the 'wrong' link is not really wrong after all. It's just a bit odd and unnecessary. In the 'wrong' link replace all the %25s with % so that %2520 becomes %20 and then the apparently 'wrong' link looks right. It's a good reason for avoiding spaces and non-standard characters in Urls. CamelCase is much less prone to these sorts of problems. Seems a few other organisations are having trouble with %25 replacing % http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/technicalqueries/thread/6f20c6a9-0ed9-4e96-a0f7-cc1abbdf58a8 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1648880?start=0&tstart=0 https://github.com/pipwerks/PDFObject/issues/23 http://drupal.org/node/1335942 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3549747/apache-25-in-url-400-bad-request Welcome back chap! Lets hope they can fix it! Regards from Tom :) From: Carlo Strata To: "TDF, discuss" ; "LibreOffice, users" Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 12:29 Subject: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones) Hi Everyone and sorry for my long silence! I have not read the mailing list for a long, but I am always here to use, test, update and spread LibreOffice! ;-) Since 4.x versions - but maybe since before: 1. if you create a new writer document and copy in it a with-space-link like this: http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%20su%20Firefox%20Sync 2. save the document; 3. export the document in pdf with the default settings; 4. open the exported pdf; 5. click on the clickable link; 6. you will get this wrong link instead: http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%2520su%2520Firefox%2520Sync 7. if you open that link from the odt (as usual with a ctrl+click) you get instead the right link and the browser open correctly! 8. if you leave your mouse cursor on the link both on the pdf and the odt documents you will get a correct title yellow lable ("tooltip") too! 9. I finally think there is a bug on the pdf export module. 10. This is the same if you create the above document with the Insert -> Hypertext link menu function. I
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)
Hi :) I don't know if there is one for LibreOffice yet. People have tried to show me how to look things up in the bug-report place but for some reason i can never quite manage it myself. Also i'm not sure if just solving the problem in LibreOffice would make the problem go away. It seems to be further "upstream" with fairly major projects having to deal with it separately. is it possible to post a bug-report against "the internet"? Apols and regards form Tom :) > > From: Florian Reisinger >To: Tom Davies >Cc: Carlo Strata ; "TDF, discuss" >; "LibreOffice, users" > >Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 16:37 >Subject: Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] >Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as >%2520 ones) > > >Hi, > >Does a bug report exist yet? > >Liebe Grüße, / Yours, >Florian Reisinger > >Am 09.05.2013 um 14:10 schrieb Tom Davies : > >> Hi :) >> %25 is the code for a % symbol so the 'wrong' link is not really wrong after >> all. It's just a bit odd and unnecessary. In the 'wrong' link replace all >> the %25s with % so that %2520 becomes %20 and then the apparently 'wrong' >> link looks right. It's a good reason for avoiding spaces and non-standard >> characters in Urls. CamelCase is much less prone to these sorts of problems. >> >> Seems a few other organisations are having trouble with %25 replacing % >> http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/technicalqueries/thread/6f20c6a9-0ed9-4e96-a0f7-cc1abbdf58a8 >> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1648880?start=0&tstart=0 >> https://github.com/pipwerks/PDFObject/issues/23 >> http://drupal.org/node/1335942 >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3549747/apache-25-in-url-400-bad-request >> >> Welcome back chap! Lets hope they can fix it! >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> From: Carlo Strata >>> To: "TDF, discuss" ; "LibreOffice, users" >>> >>> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 12:29 >>> Subject: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf >>> export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones) >>> >>> >>> Hi Everyone and sorry for my long silence! >>> >>> I have not read the mailing list for a long, but I am always here to >>> use, test, update and spread LibreOffice! ;-) >>> >>> Since 4.x versions - but maybe since before: >>> >>> 1. if you create a new writer document and copy in it a with-space-link >>> like this: >>> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%20su%20Firefox%20Sync >>> 2. save the document; >>> 3. export the document in pdf with the default settings; >>> 4. open the exported pdf; >>> 5. click on the clickable link; >>> 6. you will get this wrong link instead: >>> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%2520su%2520Firefox%2520Sync >>> 7. if you open that link from the odt (as usual with a ctrl+click) you >>> get instead the right link and the browser open correctly! >>> 8. if you leave your mouse cursor on the link both on the pdf and the >>> odt documents you will get a correct title yellow lable ("tooltip") too! >>> 9. I finally think there is a bug on the pdf export module. >>> 10. This is the same if you create the above document with the Insert -> >>> Hypertext link menu function. >>> >>> I have tested this on each new testing release, but only today I have >>> found the mental time to write this mail. >>> I am also going to search if there is a related issue yet and if not, as >>> I used in the near past, I will post a new one. >>> >>> Have a sunny day, >>> >>> Carlo >>> >>> p.s. on this Saturday I will see Italo (Vignoli) on Venice (where I >>> live) in a very interesting public access Venetian Engineers Meeting >>> that I help to organize... :-) >>> >>> -- >>> ing. Carlo Strata >>> - >>> via Botticelli 1/4 >>> 30031 Dolo - VE >>> Italia - Italy >>> - >>> tel./fax +39.041.822.0665 >>> cell. +39.347.85.69.824 >>> Skype carlo.strata >>> Google carlo.strata.69 >>> - >>> carlo.str...@tiscali.it >>> PEC: carlo.str...@ingpec.eu >>> >>> >>
Re: [tdf-discuss] Re: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones)
Hi, Does a bug report exist yet? Liebe Grüße, / Yours, Florian Reisinger Am 09.05.2013 um 14:10 schrieb Tom Davies : > Hi :) > %25 is the code for a % symbol so the 'wrong' link is not really wrong after > all. It's just a bit odd and unnecessary. In the 'wrong' link replace all > the %25s with % so that %2520 becomes %20 and then the apparently 'wrong' > link looks right. It's a good reason for avoiding spaces and non-standard > characters in Urls. CamelCase is much less prone to these sorts of problems. > > Seems a few other organisations are having trouble with %25 replacing % > http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/technicalqueries/thread/6f20c6a9-0ed9-4e96-a0f7-cc1abbdf58a8 > https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1648880?start=0&tstart=0 > https://github.com/pipwerks/PDFObject/issues/23 > http://drupal.org/node/1335942 > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3549747/apache-25-in-url-400-bad-request > > Welcome back chap! Lets hope they can fix it! > Regards from > Tom :) > > > > > > >> >> From: Carlo Strata >> To: "TDF, discuss" ; "LibreOffice, users" >> >> Sent: Thursday, 9 May 2013, 12:29 >> Subject: [libreoffice-users] [4.0.3.3 non fixed bug] Link with a space Pdf >> export error (%20 characters - space ones - exported as %2520 ones) >> >> >> Hi Everyone and sorry for my long silence! >> >> I have not read the mailing list for a long, but I am always here to >> use, test, update and spread LibreOffice! ;-) >> >> Since 4.x versions - but maybe since before: >> >> 1. if you create a new writer document and copy in it a with-space-link >> like this: >> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%20su%20Firefox%20Sync >> 2. save the document; >> 3. export the document in pdf with the default settings; >> 4. open the exported pdf; >> 5. click on the clickable link; >> 6. you will get this wrong link instead: >> http://support.mozilla.org/it/kb/Informazioni%2520su%2520Firefox%2520Sync >> 7. if you open that link from the odt (as usual with a ctrl+click) you >> get instead the right link and the browser open correctly! >> 8. if you leave your mouse cursor on the link both on the pdf and the >> odt documents you will get a correct title yellow lable ("tooltip") too! >> 9. I finally think there is a bug on the pdf export module. >> 10. This is the same if you create the above document with the Insert -> >> Hypertext link menu function. >> >> I have tested this on each new testing release, but only today I have >> found the mental time to write this mail. >> I am also going to search if there is a related issue yet and if not, as >> I used in the near past, I will post a new one. >> >> Have a sunny day, >> >> Carlo >> >> p.s. on this Saturday I will see Italo (Vignoli) on Venice (where I >> live) in a very interesting public access Venetian Engineers Meeting >> that I help to organize... :-) >> >> -- >> ing. Carlo Strata >> - >> via Botticelli 1/4 >> 30031 Dolo - VE >> Italia - Italy >> - >> tel./fax +39.041.822.0665 >> cell. +39.347.85.69.824 >> Skype carlo.strata >> Google carlo.strata.69 >> - >> carlo.str...@tiscali.it >> PEC: carlo.str...@ingpec.eu >> >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be >> deleted > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: discuss+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted