Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04
Hi :) +1 It's not a huge issue. If i can't get it to work in the next couple of days then i can go back to 3.5.4 or even settle on 3.6.? as an upgrade that didn't go quite as far as i'd hoped. Bear in mind that 4.0.0 still has a .0 at the end and i wouldn't normally upgrade to a new branch until that reached x.x.4 Regards from Tom :) From: Paddy Landau pa...@landau.ws To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 8 February 2013, 9:21 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04 krackedpress wrote Why not make sure that the version of LO work for the current Long-Term-Support version of Ubuntu Unity? … Is there any way to make sure that LO works with 12.04LTS, 12.10, 13.04, and then 13.10? It probably would take plenty of work. As I mentioned, there have been large changes between 12.04 and 12.10 (mainly to deal with hardware compatibility), and further changes to 13.04. krackedpress wrote … many people love Unity and those people are most likely LO users and really would be upset if the specific Unity menu system will not work with LO. No, this is a minor issue in the scheme of things. People won't be upset. It doesn't stop LO working; it merely means that LO's menu is not in the usual place, but at least it is clearly visible. It really is minor. When I made my original post, I was hoping that there was a simple solution. It's fine; it's part of the evolution of Ubuntu. It will work with the next LTS, 14.04. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-4-0-Unity-Integration-in-Ubuntu-12-04-tp4035137p4035450.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04
Hi :) Sorry about that! It shouldn't have happened that way! I think there was a huge disconnect between 11.04 and anything prior to that but that is not usually the way of things and it's unlikely to happen that way again. Regards from Tom :) From: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 18:37 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04 On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) All bug-fixes and stuff gets backported to 12.04 for the next 4 years. If something isn't working well right now then it'll probably get fixed reasonably soon. If a more recent version of Ubuntu already has a fix for something then 12.04 will get it really soon. Regards from Tom :) From my understanding this is't true. Only specific bug fixes are backported. I remember with 10.04 I had to ask several times to have a patch that was on 11.04 to be backported. Best, Joel From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 18:26 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04 On 02/07/2013 10:59 AM, Paddy Landau wrote: Jay Lozier wrote Paddy Landau wrote According to the New Features page ... Unity Integration is built in. Sadly, this is not working for me. Did you install LO manually? ... cd desktop-integration ... The installation process is now completed, and you should have icons for all the LibreOffice applications in your desktop's Applications/Office menu. Thank you for your reply, but this was not what I was referring to. I was referring to the Unity menu-bar integration. If you look at the New Features page https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-0-new-features-and-fixes , about halfway down (under the title GUI), you will see a screen-shot of the Unity Integration. Since my last posting, I have been informed that perhaps it may not work in Ubuntu versions prior to the current Alpha version (13.04), so perhaps it will not work in 12.04? There has been a lot of updates lately for 12.04, even some Unity ones. I run MATE instead of Unity. Maybe 12.10 works better. I am running it on my testing laptop [but with MATE as well], but run 12.04/MATE for my default desktop system. I do see the Unity Integration box you are referring to. My question seem to be what it the current state of the Unity Integration for the 12.04/12.10 versions. How much has been changed between 3.6.5 and 4.0.0 that affected the integration, other than the addition of persona to the UI? I wonder why the integration will not work with 12.xx since that it the current version of Ubuntu? It what you was given was true, why would they work on doing the work on the OS version that is not even out? Does not make sense. I waited a long time before I went from 10.04 LTS to 12.04LTS, just before 12.10 came out. So if the next LTS is 14.04LTS, then there will be a lot of Ubuntu users [Unity or others] that will be still using 12.xx for another year or so. Now work for 12.xx, does not make sense. It needs to work and not make you wait till 13.04 or later. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Joel Madero LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0
Il 06/02/2013 00:46, Paolo Debortoli ha scritto: Il 05/02/2013 13:53, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) Will MSO ever catch up on security or cross-platform compatibility? security maybe (but it is not on the ms's vip list), but not cross-platform... can you imagine ms dealing with linux (as many public administrations un europe are doing) ? Regards from Tom :) ops... sorry, i heard ms is working through novell on linux versions of ms office mainly for android... though it is not certainly free software based on partecipation -- www.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0
Hi :) I think recent word from MS is that they are not even going to do a version of MSO 2013 for Mac let alone for GnuLinux. I'm not sure why Ballmer would make such a claim and i'm not sure i would trust it either. There is bound to be a Mac version in about a year. Perhaps they are trying to push people into using their equivalent of google-docs. Regards from Tom :) From: Paolo Debortoli paolo_debort...@yahoo.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 8:43 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Il 06/02/2013 00:46, Paolo Debortoli ha scritto: Il 05/02/2013 13:53, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) Will MSO ever catch up on security or cross-platform compatibility? security maybe (but it is not on the ms's vip list), but not cross-platform... can you imagine ms dealing with linux (as many public administrations un europe are doing) ? Regards from Tom :) ops... sorry, i heard ms is working through novell on linux versions of ms office mainly for android... though it is not certainly free software based on partecipation -- www.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04
On 02/07/2013 10:59 AM, Paddy Landau wrote: Jay Lozier wrote Paddy Landau wrote According to the New Features page ... Unity Integration is built in. Sadly, this is not working for me. Did you install LO manually? ... cd desktop-integration ... The installation process is now completed, and you should have icons for all the LibreOffice applications in your desktop's Applications/Office menu. Thank you for your reply, but this was not what I was referring to. I was referring to the Unity menu-bar integration. If you look at the New Features page https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-0-new-features-and-fixes , about halfway down (under the title GUI), you will see a screen-shot of the Unity Integration. Since my last posting, I have been informed that perhaps it may not work in Ubuntu versions prior to the current Alpha version (13.04), so perhaps it will not work in 12.04? I have installed LO 4.0 on Linux Mint 13 (Ubuntu 12.04) with no problems. I am using the Cinnamon desktop. Integration was fine for me. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04
The authorized version of LibreOffice for Ubuntu does allow for Unity. It may be that you should look a the link below http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand On 2/7/2013 10:59 AM, Paddy Landau wrote: It is not a pleasure, but it can be done. Jay Lozier wrote Paddy Landau wrote According to the New Features page ... Unity Integration is built in. Sadly, this is not working for me. Did you install LO manually? ... cd desktop-integration ... The installation process is now completed, and you should have icons for all the LibreOffice applications in your desktop's Applications/Office menu. Thank you for your reply, but this was not what I was referring to. I was referring to the Unity menu-bar integration. If you look at the New Features page https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-0-new-features-and-fixes , about halfway down (under the title GUI), you will see a screen-shot of the Unity Integration. Since my last posting, I have been informed that perhaps it may not work in Ubuntu versions prior to the current Alpha version (13.04), so perhaps it will not work in 12.04? -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-4-0-Unity-Integration-in-Ubuntu-12-04-tp4035137p4035169.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04
On 02/07/2013 11:46 AM, Paddy Landau wrote: Jay Lozier wrote I have installed LO 4.0 on Linux Mint 13 (Ubuntu 12.04) with no problems. I am using the Cinnamon desktop. Integration was fine for me. As I understand, Cinnamon does not have the Unity global menu. Am I mistaken? AFAIK you are correct Paul D. Mirowsky wrote The authorized version of LibreOffice for Ubuntu does allow for Unity. It may be that you should look a the link below http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand That's not the problem. The menu items are fine. I am talking about the integration of the application's menu (not the launcher menu) into the Unity global menu at the top. See this screen-shot https://www.libreoffice.org/assets/Uploads/EN-Project_images/4.0NewFeatures/GUI/Unitymenu.png to understand what I mean — it's the Libre Office menu, not the main menu of all applications. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-4-0-Unity-Integration-in-Ubuntu-12-04-tp4035137p4035191.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04
On 02/07/2013 10:59 AM, Paddy Landau wrote: Jay Lozier wrote Paddy Landau wrote According to the New Features page ... Unity Integration is built in. Sadly, this is not working for me. Did you install LO manually? ... cd desktop-integration ... The installation process is now completed, and you should have icons for all the LibreOffice applications in your desktop's Applications/Office menu. Thank you for your reply, but this was not what I was referring to. I was referring to the Unity menu-bar integration. If you look at the New Features page https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-0-new-features-and-fixes , about halfway down (under the title GUI), you will see a screen-shot of the Unity Integration. Since my last posting, I have been informed that perhaps it may not work in Ubuntu versions prior to the current Alpha version (13.04), so perhaps it will not work in 12.04? There has been a lot of updates lately for 12.04, even some Unity ones. I run MATE instead of Unity. Maybe 12.10 works better. I am running it on my testing laptop [but with MATE as well], but run 12.04/MATE for my default desktop system. I do see the Unity Integration box you are referring to. My question seem to be what it the current state of the Unity Integration for the 12.04/12.10 versions. How much has been changed between 3.6.5 and 4.0.0 that affected the integration, other than the addition of persona to the UI? I wonder why the integration will not work with 12.xx since that it the current version of Ubuntu? It what you was given was true, why would they work on doing the work on the OS version that is not even out? Does not make sense. I waited a long time before I went from 10.04 LTS to 12.04LTS, just before 12.10 came out. So if the next LTS is 14.04LTS, then there will be a lot of Ubuntu users [Unity or others] that will be still using 12.xx for another year or so. Now work for 12.xx, does not make sense. It needs to work and not make you wait till 13.04 or later. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04
Hi :) All bug-fixes and stuff gets backported to 12.04 for the next 4 years. If something isn't working well right now then it'll probably get fixed reasonably soon. If a more recent version of Ubuntu already has a fix for something then 12.04 will get it really soon. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 18:26 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04 On 02/07/2013 10:59 AM, Paddy Landau wrote: Jay Lozier wrote Paddy Landau wrote According to the New Features page ... Unity Integration is built in. Sadly, this is not working for me. Did you install LO manually? ... cd desktop-integration ... The installation process is now completed, and you should have icons for all the LibreOffice applications in your desktop's Applications/Office menu. Thank you for your reply, but this was not what I was referring to. I was referring to the Unity menu-bar integration. If you look at the New Features page https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-0-new-features-and-fixes , about halfway down (under the title GUI), you will see a screen-shot of the Unity Integration. Since my last posting, I have been informed that perhaps it may not work in Ubuntu versions prior to the current Alpha version (13.04), so perhaps it will not work in 12.04? There has been a lot of updates lately for 12.04, even some Unity ones. I run MATE instead of Unity. Maybe 12.10 works better. I am running it on my testing laptop [but with MATE as well], but run 12.04/MATE for my default desktop system. I do see the Unity Integration box you are referring to. My question seem to be what it the current state of the Unity Integration for the 12.04/12.10 versions. How much has been changed between 3.6.5 and 4.0.0 that affected the integration, other than the addition of persona to the UI? I wonder why the integration will not work with 12.xx since that it the current version of Ubuntu? It what you was given was true, why would they work on doing the work on the OS version that is not even out? Does not make sense. I waited a long time before I went from 10.04 LTS to 12.04LTS, just before 12.10 came out. So if the next LTS is 14.04LTS, then there will be a lot of Ubuntu users [Unity or others] that will be still using 12.xx for another year or so. Now work for 12.xx, does not make sense. It needs to work and not make you wait till 13.04 or later. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) All bug-fixes and stuff gets backported to 12.04 for the next 4 years. If something isn't working well right now then it'll probably get fixed reasonably soon. If a more recent version of Ubuntu already has a fix for something then 12.04 will get it really soon. Regards from Tom :) From my understanding this is't true. Only specific bug fixes are backported. I remember with 10.04 I had to ask several times to have a patch that was on 11.04 to be backported. Best, Joel From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 18:26 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04 On 02/07/2013 10:59 AM, Paddy Landau wrote: Jay Lozier wrote Paddy Landau wrote According to the New Features page ... Unity Integration is built in. Sadly, this is not working for me. Did you install LO manually? ... cd desktop-integration ... The installation process is now completed, and you should have icons for all the LibreOffice applications in your desktop's Applications/Office menu. Thank you for your reply, but this was not what I was referring to. I was referring to the Unity menu-bar integration. If you look at the New Features page https://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-0-new-features-and-fixes , about halfway down (under the title GUI), you will see a screen-shot of the Unity Integration. Since my last posting, I have been informed that perhaps it may not work in Ubuntu versions prior to the current Alpha version (13.04), so perhaps it will not work in 12.04? There has been a lot of updates lately for 12.04, even some Unity ones. I run MATE instead of Unity. Maybe 12.10 works better. I am running it on my testing laptop [but with MATE as well], but run 12.04/MATE for my default desktop system. I do see the Unity Integration box you are referring to. My question seem to be what it the current state of the Unity Integration for the 12.04/12.10 versions. How much has been changed between 3.6.5 and 4.0.0 that affected the integration, other than the addition of persona to the UI? I wonder why the integration will not work with 12.xx since that it the current version of Ubuntu? It what you was given was true, why would they work on doing the work on the OS version that is not even out? Does not make sense. I waited a long time before I went from 10.04 LTS to 12.04LTS, just before 12.10 came out. So if the next LTS is 14.04LTS, then there will be a lot of Ubuntu users [Unity or others] that will be still using 12.xx for another year or so. Now work for 12.xx, does not make sense. It needs to work and not make you wait till 13.04 or later. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Unity Integration in Ubuntu 12.04
Why not make sure that the version of LO work for the current Long-Term-Support version of Ubuntu Unity? I do not use Unity, since I do not like it. But There will be a lot of Unity users who will want LO to work with their 12.04LTS version till the next LTS comes out. I did not use 11.04/11.10 but waited till 12.04LTS. Is there any way to make sure that LO works with 12.04LTS, 12.10, 13.04, and then 13.10? Right now, articles state Mint Linux [MATE or Cinnamon] is more popular than Ubuntu/Unity [and the other desktop environments for it]. But if we turn off some of our Linux users, then where will it stop after that? I use Ubuntu, but I hate Unity so I do not use it. BUT, many people love Unity and those people are most likely LO users and really would be upset if the specific Unity menu system will not work with LO. On 02/07/2013 01:40 PM, Paddy Landau wrote: krackedpress wrote … How much has been changed between 3.6.5 and 4.0.0 that affected the integration, other than the addition of persona to the UI? … I wonder why the integration will not work with 12.xx since that it the current version of Ubuntu? … why would they work on doing the work on the OS version that is not even out? Good questions, and I think I know the answers. Canonical tends to freeze applications for a specific version, releasing updated versions only if needed for security. Firefox, Chromium and Thunderbird are the only exceptions due to their unusual release mechanisms. I believe that there have been large changes to the core code of Unity between 12.04 and 12.10, and further changes to 13.04. So, that could explain it: Canonical created package lo-menubar for Unity, but it works (badly) only on LibreOffice 3.5 if I remember correctly. It does not work on later versions, and indeed conflicts with them. krackedpress wrote So if the next LTS is 14.04LTS, then there will be a lot of Ubuntu users [Unity or others] that will be still using 12.xx for another year or so. Now work for 12.xx, does not make sense. It needs to work and not make you wait till 13.04 or later. Well, that's Canonical's way. You can either upgrade every six months to a new Ubuntu version, or stick with the LTS. The structure is there to cater for the home users who like to keep up-to-date (non-LTS) and the business and corporate users who prefer longer-term stability (LTS). I tend to stick with the LTS for stability, but because I use Libre Office extensively, I prefer to keep Libre Office updated especially when earlier versions have bugs. Conclusion: Given all the comments that have been given on this thread (and some more that I received off-list), I believe we can conclude that it won't work before 13.04. I'll just have to wait for 14.04 before using the Unity Integration. Fortunately, it is not a big deal. We can live with it. Thank you everyone for your responses — they have been helpful. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice-4-0-Unity-Integration-in-Ubuntu-12-04-tp4035137p4035233.html Sent from the Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0
Cross-platform: Don't forget that they do make a Mac version, at different release schedules to Windows (Most recent version was 2011) and AFAIK, it has full compatibility with MSO 2010. (Don't take that last bit as truth, that was my guess and you never know what's coming next with MS) On 5 Feb 2013 23:48, Paolo Debortoli paolo_debort...@yahoo.com wrote: Il 05/02/2013 13:53, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) Will MSO ever catch up on security or cross-platform compatibility? security maybe (but it is not on the ms's vip list), but not cross-platform... can you imagine ms dealing with linux (as many public administrations un europe are doing) ? Regards from Tom :) -- www.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+help@global.libreoffice.** org users%2bh...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0
Hi :) On the other hand MS Office still does not support many features of LibreOffice yet either. Plus a LOT of the functionality of MS Office depends on you buying the 'right' bundle and then buying extra apps on top of whatever is included in the bundle. For example the Student's version of MSO doesn't include Publisher or Access. Plus their default formats rely on everyone using the same version and the same OS as the person that created the document and only really works on desktop machines. Plus all the security issues that MS documents and the app has suffered from over the years are almost entirely avoided by Libreoffice and all the other OpenSource office programs. Will MSO ever catch up on security or cross-platform compatibility? Regards from Tom :) From: Urmas davian...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 13:42 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Chad Homan cho...@gmail.com: My question is, is LO 4.0 suppose to be the release that supports 120% of MSO97. Not yet, it does not support 100% of MS Word 2.0 (from 1992) yet. Of course it has some bells and whistles and even a couple of useful features, but still no cigar. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0
On 05/02/13 12:53, Tom Davies wrote: snip Will MSO ever catch up on security or cross-platform compatibility? Regards from Tom :) Hmmm - tough one that! I'd have to say no and no :-) From: Urmas davian...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 13:42 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Chad Homan cho...@gmail.com: My question is, is LO 4.0 suppose to be the release that supports 120% of MSO97. Not yet, it does not support 100% of MS Word 2.0 (from 1992) yet. Of course it has some bells and whistles and even a couple of useful features, but still no cigar. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0
and that's the reason I've been praising LO :-) as well as Gizmo's site - verified, tested programs for any computer. The best publishing programs, ... can be acquired through Gizmo's - and no worry re. having to re-purchase if the HD should die ;-) these in combination with LO is all any laptop needs ... and many folks have switched from the desktop PC to the laptops; actually many of these are now switching to the even smaller hand-held devices - [ I'm so far not interested in swapping from the lap-top ;-) ] On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) On the other hand MS Office still does not support many features of LibreOffice yet either. Plus a LOT of the functionality of MS Office depends on you buying the 'right' bundle and then buying extra apps on top of whatever is included in the bundle. For example the Student's version of MSO doesn't include Publisher or Access. Plus their default formats rely on everyone using the same version and the same OS as the person that created the document and only really works on desktop machines. Plus all the security issues that MS documents and the app has suffered from over the years are almost entirely avoided by Libreoffice and all the other OpenSource office programs. Will MSO ever catch up on security or cross-platform compatibility? Regards from Tom :) From: Urmas davian...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 13:42 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Chad Homan cho...@gmail.com: My question is, is LO 4.0 suppose to be the release that supports 120% of MSO97. Not yet, it does not support 100% of MS Word 2.0 (from 1992) yet. Of course it has some bells and whistles and even a couple of useful features, but still no cigar. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0
On 02/05/2013 11:53 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) On the other hand MS Office still does not support many features of LibreOffice yet either. Plus a LOT of the functionality of MS Office depends on you buying the 'right' bundle and then buying extra apps on top of whatever is included in the bundle. For example the Student's version of MSO doesn't include Publisher or Access. Plus their default formats rely on everyone using the same version and the same OS as the person that created the document and only really works on desktop machines. Plus all the security issues that MS documents and the app has suffered from over the years are almost entirely avoided by Libreoffice and all the other OpenSource office programs. Will MSO ever catch up on security or cross-platform compatibility? Regards from Tom :) Microsoft may catch up on cross platform compatibility if they release Office for Linux as has been rumored, plus the fact that they have their development fingers in the Linux Kernel and KDE should assist with that, particularly if Microsoft want to realize their dream of taking over the world. As far as security is concerned, that will never happen. They don't have the reputation of Microsoft and Security don't go together for nothing, plus they continually demonstrate that they don't understand the basics of security. regards, Steve From: Urmas davian...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 13:42 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 Chad Homan cho...@gmail.com: My question is, is LO 4.0 suppose to be the release that supports 120% of MSO97. Not yet, it does not support 100% of MS Word 2.0 (from 1992) yet. Of course it has some bells and whistles and even a couple of useful features, but still no cigar. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0
That's very funny. What particular basics of security do you have in mind? And how would you say LibreOffice 4.0 will demonstrate superiority in that regard? -Original Message- From: Stephen Morris [mailto:samor...@netspace.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:20 To: Tom Davies; Urmas; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0 [Microsoft] don't have the reputation of Microsoft and Security don't go together for nothing, plus they continually demonstrate that they don't understand the basics of security. regards, Steve [ ... ] -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: LibreOffice 4.0
Il 05/02/2013 13:53, Tom Davies ha scritto: Hi :) Will MSO ever catch up on security or cross-platform compatibility? security maybe (but it is not on the ms's vip list), but not cross-platform... can you imagine ms dealing with linux (as many public administrations un europe are doing) ? Regards from Tom :) -- www.libreoffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
