Re: [libreoffice-users] "Description" missing in Base
On 04/17/2013 05:18 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: On 4/12/2013 5:30 PM, Dan Lewis wrote: On 04/12/2013 04:51 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: On 4/12/2013 1:47 PM, Dan Lewis wrote: On 04/12/2013 01:11 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2 Windows 7 64bit Has anybody using Base found a way to add a description to an object. If it has a menu item to add, I'm not sure which to choose. "Rename" is available for Title, but no "Description". The main window for Base does show a place to display it in the upper right hand quadrant. The following is from HELP. Begin Quote-- Description Assigns a title and a description to the selected object. These are accessible for accessibility tools and as alternative tags when you export the document. To access this command... Open the context menu for the object - choose *Description* Title Enter a title text. This short name is visible as an alternative tag in HTML format. Accessibility tools can read this text. Description Enter a description text. The long description text can be entered to describe a complex object or group of objects to users with screen reader software. The description is visible as an alternative tag for accessibility tools. ---End Quote Thanks Paul The key to this is a phrase it contains: "export the document". When using Writer, this can be use for a variety of documents such as a graphic or frame. If you right click one of these, the context menu appears containing *Description*. I have not tried opening a slide presentation to see if it applies there as well. It likely will. However, this does not apply to the database objects found in the main database window. (They are not part of a document.) --Dan And yet, when you run your mouse over a "Task" on upper left quadrant, under "Description" the text describing it shows immediately. Should I assume that is tied to "Base" from its origins in HSQLDB and not able to function in LibreOffice or is just not applied to user made objects? "Queries" drive me crazy. It would be a very convenient function and reduce the memory exercise of how this or that was done and how it should be used. Regretfully, the language is not clear in "Help" under Base as compared to what shows on the main window of Base and is confusing. Thanks Paul I do not think you know what LibreOffice means when it uses the term /object/. Here is the definition, also found in help: You are definitely correct. I'm not sure which "object" definition is being used. But statistically, even though "two out of three ain't bad", in this case two is one to many. "Object An object is a screen element containing data. It can refer to application data, such as text or graphics. Is the "Title" displayed of a query an object when making a query? I click on it and it reacts, I assume it is an object. Is this wrong? Objects are independent and do not influence each other. Any object containing data can be assigned certain commands. For example, a graphic object has commands for image editing and a spreadsheet contains calculation commands." --- From this I understand that an object is something that you add to a LibreOffice document using a tool on a toolbar that places something on the screen. For example, the Drawing toolbar while in Writer, Calc, Base, or Impress. When this is visible, you can click a tool and draw it in your open document. Then you can click the "object" you just drew and select "Description from the context menu. Yes, I see that a "Form" generated in Base allows fields with a "Title" and "Description". In Edit mode, I right click on a field, and sure enough, it's right there in the menu, "Description...". I am just hoping it would also apply to Queries Titles. Instead of seeing "Rename" as a part of the menu for queries, I would rather see "Description", that would be more consistent with what is described in Help. So, what about "queries?" What is it that you do not understand? It is a term that is used by every database program for decades. The purpose of a query is to search the data in its database for specific information. It is not that I don't understand queries. It is opening a query in edit mode to understand exactly what it is doing. I seem to making plenty of them lately. I'm not a memory expert and easier usually makes me happier. My hope was that I would be able to add a "Desc
Re: [libreoffice-users] "Description" missing in Base
On 4/12/2013 5:30 PM, Dan Lewis wrote: On 04/12/2013 04:51 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: On 4/12/2013 1:47 PM, Dan Lewis wrote: On 04/12/2013 01:11 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2 Windows 7 64bit Has anybody using Base found a way to add a description to an object. If it has a menu item to add, I'm not sure which to choose. "Rename" is available for Title, but no "Description". The main window for Base does show a place to display it in the upper right hand quadrant. The following is from HELP. Begin Quote-- Description Assigns a title and a description to the selected object. These are accessible for accessibility tools and as alternative tags when you export the document. To access this command... Open the context menu for the object - choose *Description* Title Enter a title text. This short name is visible as an alternative tag in HTML format. Accessibility tools can read this text. Description Enter a description text. The long description text can be entered to describe a complex object or group of objects to users with screen reader software. The description is visible as an alternative tag for accessibility tools. ---End Quote Thanks Paul The key to this is a phrase it contains: "export the document". When using Writer, this can be use for a variety of documents such as a graphic or frame. If you right click one of these, the context menu appears containing *Description*. I have not tried opening a slide presentation to see if it applies there as well. It likely will. However, this does not apply to the database objects found in the main database window. (They are not part of a document.) --Dan And yet, when you run your mouse over a "Task" on upper left quadrant, under "Description" the text describing it shows immediately. Should I assume that is tied to "Base" from its origins in HSQLDB and not able to function in LibreOffice or is just not applied to user made objects? "Queries" drive me crazy. It would be a very convenient function and reduce the memory exercise of how this or that was done and how it should be used. Regretfully, the language is not clear in "Help" under Base as compared to what shows on the main window of Base and is confusing. Thanks Paul I do not think you know what LibreOffice means when it uses the term /object/. Here is the definition, also found in help: You are definitely correct. I'm not sure which "object" definition is being used. But statistically, even though "two out of three ain't bad", in this case two is one to many. "Object An object is a screen element containing data. It can refer to application data, such as text or graphics. Is the "Title" displayed of a query an object when making a query? I click on it and it reacts, I assume it is an object. Is this wrong? Objects are independent and do not influence each other. Any object containing data can be assigned certain commands. For example, a graphic object has commands for image editing and a spreadsheet contains calculation commands." --- From this I understand that an object is something that you add to a LibreOffice document using a tool on a toolbar that places something on the screen. For example, the Drawing toolbar while in Writer, Calc, Base, or Impress. When this is visible, you can click a tool and draw it in your open document. Then you can click the "object" you just drew and select "Description from the context menu. Yes, I see that a "Form" generated in Base allows fields with a "Title" and "Description". In Edit mode, I right click on a field, and sure enough, it's right there in the menu, "Description...". I am just hoping it would also apply to Queries Titles. Instead of seeing "Rename" as a part of the menu for queries, I would rather see "Description", that would be more consistent with what is described in Help. So, what about "queries?" What is it that you do not understand? It is a term that is used by every database program for decades. The purpose of a query is to search the data in its database for specific information. It is not that I don't understand queries. It is opening a query in edit mode to understand exactly what it is doing. I seem to making plenty of them lately. I'm not a memory expert and easier usually makes me happier. My hope was that I would be able to add a "Description" to the "Title" of a query made by me. An
Re: [libreoffice-users] "Description" missing in Base
On 04/12/2013 04:51 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: On 4/12/2013 1:47 PM, Dan Lewis wrote: On 04/12/2013 01:11 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2 Windows 7 64bit Has anybody using Base found a way to add a description to an object. If it has a menu item to add, I'm not sure which to choose. "Rename" is available for Title, but no "Description". The main window for Base does show a place to display it in the upper right hand quadrant. The following is from HELP. Begin Quote-- Description Assigns a title and a description to the selected object. These are accessible for accessibility tools and as alternative tags when you export the document. To access this command... Open the context menu for the object - choose *Description* Title Enter a title text. This short name is visible as an alternative tag in HTML format. Accessibility tools can read this text. Description Enter a description text. The long description text can be entered to describe a complex object or group of objects to users with screen reader software. The description is visible as an alternative tag for accessibility tools. ---End Quote Thanks Paul The key to this is a phrase it contains: "export the document". When using Writer, this can be use for a variety of documents such as a graphic or frame. If you right click one of these, the context menu appears containing *Description*. I have not tried opening a slide presentation to see if it applies there as well. It likely will. However, this does not apply to the database objects found in the main database window. (They are not part of a document.) --Dan And yet, when you run your mouse over a "Task" on upper left quadrant, under "Description" the text describing it shows immediately. Should I assume that is tied to "Base" from its origins in HSQLDB and not able to function in LibreOffice or is just not applied to user made objects? "Queries" drive me crazy. It would be a very convenient function and reduce the memory exercise of how this or that was done and how it should be used. Regretfully, the language is not clear in "Help" under Base as compared to what shows on the main window of Base and is confusing. Thanks Paul I do not think you know what LibreOffice means when it uses the term /object/. Here is the definition, also found in help: "Object An object is a screen element containing data. It can refer to application data, such as text or graphics. Objects are independent and do not influence each other. Any object containing data can be assigned certain commands. For example, a graphic object has commands for image editing and a spreadsheet contains calculation commands." --- From this I understand that an object is something that you add to a LibreOffice document using a tool on a toolbar that places something on the screen. For example, the Drawing toolbar while in Writer, Calc, Base, or Impress. When this is visible, you can click a tool and draw it in your open document. Then you can click the "object" you just drew and select "Description from the context menu. So, what about "queries?" What is it that you do not understand? It is a term that is used by every database program for decades. The purpose of a query is to search the data in its database for specific information. For example, when you went to Help and looked up the term "Description", you found what you quoted in your first email. What you did was to create a query whose purpose was to search for the information it had on the term /Description/. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] "Description" missing in Base
On 4/12/2013 1:47 PM, Dan Lewis wrote: On 04/12/2013 01:11 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2 Windows 7 64bit Has anybody using Base found a way to add a description to an object. If it has a menu item to add, I'm not sure which to choose. "Rename" is available for Title, but no "Description". The main window for Base does show a place to display it in the upper right hand quadrant. The following is from HELP. Begin Quote-- Description Assigns a title and a description to the selected object. These are accessible for accessibility tools and as alternative tags when you export the document. To access this command... Open the context menu for the object - choose *Description* Title Enter a title text. This short name is visible as an alternative tag in HTML format. Accessibility tools can read this text. Description Enter a description text. The long description text can be entered to describe a complex object or group of objects to users with screen reader software. The description is visible as an alternative tag for accessibility tools. ---End Quote Thanks Paul The key to this is a phrase it contains: "export the document". When using Writer, this can be use for a variety of documents such as a graphic or frame. If you right click one of these, the context menu appears containing *Description*. I have not tried opening a slide presentation to see if it applies there as well. It likely will. However, this does not apply to the database objects found in the main database window. (They are not part of a document.) --Dan And yet, when you run your mouse over a "Task" on upper left quadrant, under "Description" the text describing it shows immediately. Should I assume that is tied to "Base" from its origins in HSQLDB and not able to function in LibreOffice or is just not applied to user made objects? "Queries" drive me crazy. It would be a very convenient function and reduce the memory exercise of how this or that was done and how it should be used. Regretfully, the language is not clear in "Help" under Base as compared to what shows on the main window of Base and is confusing. Thanks Paul -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] "Description" missing in Base
On 04/12/2013 01:11 PM, Paul D. Mirowsky wrote: LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2 Windows 7 64bit Has anybody using Base found a way to add a description to an object. If it has a menu item to add, I'm not sure which to choose. "Rename" is available for Title, but no "Description". The main window for Base does show a place to display it in the upper right hand quadrant. The following is from HELP. Begin Quote-- Description Assigns a title and a description to the selected object. These are accessible for accessibility tools and as alternative tags when you export the document. To access this command... Open the context menu for the object - choose *Description* Title Enter a title text. This short name is visible as an alternative tag in HTML format. Accessibility tools can read this text. Description Enter a description text. The long description text can be entered to describe a complex object or group of objects to users with screen reader software. The description is visible as an alternative tag for accessibility tools. ---End Quote Thanks Paul The key to this is a phrase it contains: "export the document". When using Writer, this can be use for a variety of documents such as a graphic or frame. If you right click one of these, the context menu appears containing *Description*. I have not tried opening a slide presentation to see if it applies there as well. It likely will. However, this does not apply to the database objects found in the main database window. (They are not part of a document.) --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
