Re: [libreoffice-users] ... bootstraps ...

2012-10-10 Thread Felmon Davis

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, anne-ology wrote:


  ... this phrase comes from a novel(s) at the turn of the Century -
  when some writers were writing on the 'American dream';
  it may have originated in the Horatio Alger series of
books.


I have had already written a couple of times, it comes from Baron von 
Münchhausen who reported pulling himself out of swamp by his own 
bootstraps.


more on the good Baron here:

(11 May 1720 – 22 February 1797) was a German nobleman and a famous 
recounter of tall tales. In his youth the Baron was sent to serve as a 
page to Duke Anthony Ulrich II of Brunswick-Lüneburg, and later joined 
the Russian military. He served until 1750, in particular taking part 
in two campaigns against the Ottoman Turks. Returning home, 
Münchhausen is said to have told a number of outrageously farfetched 
stories about his adventures. He died in his birthplace of 
Bodenwerder.


Even before his death, Münchhausen's reputation as a storyteller was 
exaggerated by several writers, giving birth to a fully fictionalized 
literary character usually called simply Baron Munchausen. The 
(fictional) Baron's exploits, usually narrated by himself, focus on 
his impossible achievements as a hunter, warrior, and traveler, 
including rides on cannonballs and trips to the moon.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_von_Münchhausen

F.



  FYI - when I think turn of the Century, I'm referring to 112, not
12, years ago  ;-)

  BTW - many of these books have now been transcribed thanks to
Gutenberg, www.gutenberg.org/, and can be read/downloaded from their
various sites.
  This is a nice place for us oldsters to re-read many of these from
the past ...
   and for you youngsters to read some nicely written books
without the blasphemy, etc. in many of today's writings.

  Hoping you enjoy the day, the week, ... ... ...



On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)

Thanks all that responded to this!  Now I'm curious where the phrase
raising yourself by your own bootstraps came from.  Is it something to do
with horses?  Postal services?
Regards from
Tom :)





From: Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Monday, 8 October 2012, 23:34
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] attempting to find an answer and instead

...



The term boot or boot up comes from the idea of raising yourself by

your own bootstraps--seemingly impossible, but when you boot up, you are
using the operating system to start itself.


--doug








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Re: [libreoffice-users] ... bootstraps ...

2012-10-10 Thread anne-ology
   quite interesting; thanks for sending.



On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Felmon Davis dav...@union.edu wrote:

On Wed, 10 Oct 2012, anne-ology wrote:

... this phrase comes from a novel(s) at the turn of the Century -
   when some writers were writing on the 'American dream';
   it may have originated in the Horatio Alger series of
 books.


 I have had already written a couple of times, it comes from Baron von
 Münchhausen who reported pulling himself out of swamp by his own bootstraps.

 more on the good Baron here:

 (11 May 1720 – 22 February 1797) was a German nobleman and a famous
 recounter of tall tales. In his youth the Baron was sent to serve as a page
 to Duke Anthony Ulrich II of Brunswick-Lüneburg, and later joined the
 Russian military. He served until 1750, in particular taking part in two
 campaigns against the Ottoman Turks. Returning home, Münchhausen is said to
 have told a number of outrageously farfetched stories about his adventures.
 He died in his birthplace of Bodenwerder.

 Even before his death, Münchhausen's reputation as a storyteller was
 exaggerated by several writers, giving birth to a fully fictionalized
 literary character usually called simply Baron Munchausen. The (fictional)
 Baron's exploits, usually narrated by himself, focus on his impossible
 achievements as a hunter, warrior, and traveler, including rides on
 cannonballs and trips to the moon.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Baron_von_Münchhausenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron_von_M%C3%BCnchhausen
 


 F.


   FYI - when I think turn of the Century, I'm referring to 112, not
 12, years ago  ;-)

   BTW - many of these books have now been transcribed thanks to
 Gutenberg, www.gutenberg.org/, and can be read/downloaded from their
 various sites.
   This is a nice place for us oldsters to re-read many of these from
 the past ...
and for you youngsters to read some nicely written books
 without the blasphemy, etc. in many of today's writings.

   Hoping you enjoy the day, the week, ... ... ...



 On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 5:41 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk
 wrote:

 Hi :)

 Thanks all that responded to this!  Now I'm curious where the phrase
 raising yourself by your own bootstraps came from.  Is it something to
 do
 with horses?  Postal services?
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 From: Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Monday, 8 October 2012, 23:34
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] attempting to find an answer and
 instead

 ...



 The term boot or boot up comes from the idea of raising yourself by

 your own bootstraps--seemingly impossible, but when you boot up, you are
 using the operating system to start itself.


 --doug



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