Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed checker for websites

2014-04-19 Thread M Henri Day
2014-04-18 17:15 GMT+02:00 Paul D. Mirowsky p_mirow...@bentaxna.com:

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/18/netcraft_
 heartbleed_browser_extension/

 If the Netcraft extension determines that a site was vulnerable before
 news of Heartbleed broke, it checks the date on the site's SSL certificate
 to make sure it has been recently replaced. If it hasn't, the extension
 displays an alert...

 Netcraft's updated browser extension is available as a free download for
 Firefox 1.0 and later; Chrome 26 and later on Windows, OS X, and Linux; and
 for Opera 15 and later on OS X and Windows. Versions for other browsers
 aren't available, unfortunately, which means users of Internet Explorer and
 Safari are left in the dark.


​From what I can see, Paul, the Netcraft Toolbar gives libreoffice.org a
clean bill of health when checked with both FF and Chrome on my main
machine running 64-bit Linux Mint 16. The conclusion I draw is that that
website is safe to use, at least as regards Heartbleed​

Henri




 On 4/17/2014 2:12 PM, alnuwer wrote:

 Any idea when the Heartbleed bug will be fixed in LibreOffice?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed

2014-04-18 Thread Ra
After hearing so many horrible scenarios related to this bug, I guess it's
very easy to slip into paranoia mode. ;-)

The heartbleed bug literally only ever affects web servers that communicate
over a secure channel (and use libssl as the backend, obviously). The same
library is used for client side as well, which is why LO is linked with it.
Better safe than sorry of course, and linking with a fixed version
certainly cannot do harm, but there really is no way to exploit this bug
through LO (unless of course LO can be made to run as a https web server
:-) ). As far as I know, uses of SSL/TLS other than on webservers don't use
heartbeat as it is only relevant for remote network connections.






On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 1:45 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster 
webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

 On 04/17/2014 04:13 PM, Cley Faye wrote:

 2014-04-17 21:52 GMT+02:00 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org:

  This is an OpenSSL bug, what does this have to do with Libreoffice?


 ​As far as I can tell, it's because LibreOffice was linked with a
 vulnerable version of openssl.

 It's never bad to be on the side of precautions by using the latest
 versions (especially if it provides bugfixes), but I'm not sure how an
 exploit on the server side of a TLS connection could cause issue in a
 client software. Better safe than sorry I suppose.


 Even some of MS's web based look-up for running some of their packages
 were affected by this bug and the certificate changes associated with the
 fix.  At least IE is giving me those types of errors with a few support
 phone calls I have had in the last week or so.

 Any package that need to access anything that used the older version of
 OpenSSL for any part of its inner workings can be at issue and vulnerable.
  How much it is is a guessing game, according to everything I have read,
 since each tell me a wide range of answers.

 So, fixing the web sites is just the start.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed

2014-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl

Please do NOT send to me directly, I'm on the list.

On 4/17/2014 4:13 PM, Cley Faye cleyf...@gmail.com wrote:

2014-04-17 21:52 GMT+02:00 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org:

This is an OpenSSL bug, what does this have to do with Libreoffice?



​As far as I can tell, it's because LibreOffice was linked with a
vulnerable version of openssl.


Again... in what way was Libreoffice 'linked' to OpenSSL???

Libreoffice is NOT a communication package utilizing TCP/UDP 
connections, so, in what possible way could the heartbleed bug affect 
Libreoffice?



It's never bad to be on the side of precautions by using the latest
versions (especially if it provides bugfixes), but I'm not sure how an
exploit on the server side of a TLS connection could cause issue in a
client software. Better safe than sorry I suppose.


Are you talking about the libreoffice WEBSITE? Thatr is completely 
different and totally unrelated to the SOFTWARE ON the site...


Of course, unless you are concerned that the available downloads were 
replaced with infected versions... which I guess is not impossible.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed

2014-04-18 Thread Tanstaafl

On 4/18/2014 2:54 AM, Ra ravi...@gmail.com wrote:

As far as I know, uses of SSL/TLS other than on webservers don't use
heartbeat as it is only relevant for remote network connections.


You are wrong, so need to do a LOT more reading.

But again... in what way does Libreoffice utilize TCP/UDP connectivity? 
What am I missing? Does it have a hidden built-in SSL client?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed

2014-04-18 Thread Cley Faye
2014-04-18 11:59 GMT+02:00 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org:

 You are wrong, so need to do a LOT more reading.

 But again... in what way does Libreoffice utilize TCP/UDP connectivity?
 What am I missing? Does it have a hidden built-in SSL client?


​Ahem. Some *hidden* features, like, retrieving data from URL maybe? URL
that may or may not contain the https protocol, thus needing some form of
SSL/TLS handling?​ Like images, or custom data sources?

Looks like a lot of peoples need to do a LOT more reading.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed

2014-04-18 Thread toki
On April 18, 2014 2:59:30 AM PDT, Tanstaafl  wrote:

But again... in what way does Libreoffice utilize TCP/UDP connectivity?
What am I missing? Does it have a hidden built-in SSL client?

Back in the days of StarOffice it did.
Vestiges of it were in OOo 1.x.
I don't know how much of it remains in LibO 4.x.

The email client is long gone, but some of the structure it required is still 
present, and used.
The web browser was never independently available. It is still present, and as 
primitive as it ever was.

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed checker for websites

2014-04-18 Thread Paul D. Mirowsky

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/04/18/netcraft_heartbleed_browser_extension/

If the Netcraft extension determines that a site was vulnerable before 
news of Heartbleed broke, it checks the date on the site's SSL 
certificate to make sure it has been recently replaced. If it hasn't, 
the extension displays an alert...


Netcraft's updated browser extension is available as a free download for 
Firefox 1.0 and later; Chrome 26 and later on Windows, OS X, and Linux; 
and for Opera 15 and later on OS X and Windows. Versions for other 
browsers aren't available, unfortunately, which means users of Internet 
Explorer and Safari are left in the dark.


On 4/17/2014 2:12 PM, alnuwer wrote:

Any idea when the Heartbleed bug will be fixed in LibreOffice?



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi,

Le 17 avr. 2014 20:12, alnuwer alnu...@cox.net a écrit :

 Any idea when the Heartbleed bug will be fixed in LibreOffice?

It's already done in 4.2.3.3 branch. The 4.1.x versions are not concerned.
Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Tanstaafl

On 4/17/2014 2:16 PM, Sophie Gautier gautier.sop...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi,

Le 17 avr. 2014 20:12, alnuweralnu...@cox.net  a écrit :


Any idea when the Heartbleed bug will be fixed in LibreOffice?


It's already done in 4.2.3.3 branch. The 4.1.x versions are not concerned.


???

This is an OpenSSL bug, what does this have to do with Libreoffice?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Cley Faye
2014-04-17 21:52 GMT+02:00 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org:

 This is an OpenSSL bug, what does this have to do with Libreoffice?


​As far as I can tell, it's because LibreOffice was linked with a
vulnerable version of openssl.

It's never bad to be on the side of precautions by using the latest
versions (especially if it provides bugfixes), but I'm not sure how an
exploit on the server side of a TLS connection could cause issue in a
client software. Better safe than sorry I suppose.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Heartbleed

2014-04-17 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster

On 04/17/2014 04:13 PM, Cley Faye wrote:

2014-04-17 21:52 GMT+02:00 Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org:


This is an OpenSSL bug, what does this have to do with Libreoffice?


​As far as I can tell, it's because LibreOffice was linked with a
vulnerable version of openssl.

It's never bad to be on the side of precautions by using the latest
versions (especially if it provides bugfixes), but I'm not sure how an
exploit on the server side of a TLS connection could cause issue in a
client software. Better safe than sorry I suppose.



Even some of MS's web based look-up for running some of their packages 
were affected by this bug and the certificate changes associated with 
the fix.  At least IE is giving me those types of errors with a few 
support phone calls I have had in the last week or so.


Any package that need to access anything that used the older version 
of OpenSSL for any part of its inner workings can be at issue and 
vulnerable.  How much it is is a guessing game, according to everything 
I have read, since each tell me a wide range of answers.


So, fixing the web sites is just the start.

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