Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-23 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/7/22 webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com:

 I try to keep the same set of core fonts - not just MS core web fonts - on
 all of my computers whether they are Windows or Ubuntu systems.  I tend to
 have over 100 fonts installed on these systems for greater flexability on
 the look of my documents printer/exported to PDF for distribution.  LO's
 Export to PDF, CUPS PDF printing for Linux, or doPDF PDF printing for
 Windows.

 The font installer, and other fonts software, is a good place to look at
 specialty fonts that might be used for your documents.  I used to use some
 really special ones from time to time, like letters made out of bone or
 other holiday related fonts.

 The core fonts that come with most MS systems, or the MS core font package
 for Linux, is just a start.  You really need to look at all of your options
 for typography of your documents.  Then using a PDF creation method, that
 embeds those fonts into your document, will make sure that your
 readers/users of those documents will see your work the way you want it to
 be seen.  LO does a good job with some of the popular fonts, but not as good
 on the decorative ones I tend to use.  That is where CUPS PDF and doPDF PDF
 printer software comes into play.  They will embed all of your specialty
 fonts into your documentation.  One day LO's Export to PDF will do that job
 as good as they do.

 As someone who download over 100,000 fonts from free font sites, I can tell
 you that there are many great looking fonts out there for your text and
 special documents that can be better than the MS core fonts.  All you have
 to do is take the time to look, download, and test some of them side to side
 with the MS core fonts.

One big problem, for people like me whose native language is not
English, is that many of those thousands of free fonts miss all
language specific characters, in my case åäöÅÄÖ, characters that are
just as common in my language as most of the other characters in my
alphabet (those characters are real letters and they are not to be
treated as aAoO with some additional stuff above them – they are even
sorted as individual characters, that is not among aA and oO, but
right after zZ). I didn't investigate this very thoroughly, so I don't
know exactly how many of those millions of free fonts that lacks
essential characters for many of the top hundred common languages (my
language reached 77th place in 2009, according to this lisst:
http://frankherles.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/the-100-most-spoken-languages-on-the-world/)…

But as long as I write in English, this is of course not a problem,
but I almost never do that when I don't write in mailing lists like
this one…


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



 On 07/22/2012 01:50 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

 On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

 Hi

 I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
 After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
 on what they would consider to be core fonts.
 I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
 so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
 single one of them!

 If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them already
 installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic or the
 Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7.

 The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
 the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
 terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
 Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

 sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

 The package contains:
 Andale
 Arial Black
 Arial
 Comic Sans
 Courier New
 Georgia
 Impact
 Times New Roman
 Trebuchet
 Verdana
 Webdings

 If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
 recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
 fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
 Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
 so on.



 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-23 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 07/23/2012 05:29 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
snip

One big problem, for people like me whose native language is not
English, is that many of those thousands of free fonts miss all
language specific characters, in my case åäöÅÄÖ, characters that are
just as common in my language as most of the other characters in my
alphabet (those characters are real letters and they are not to be
treated as aAoO with some additional stuff above them – they are even
sorted as individual characters, that is not among aA and oO, but
right after zZ). I didn't investigate this very thoroughly, so I don't
know exactly how many of those millions of free fonts that lacks
essential characters for many of the top hundred common languages (my
language reached 77th place in 2009, according to this lisst:
http://frankherles.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/the-100-most-spoken-languages-on-the-world/)…

But as long as I write in English, this is of course not a problem,
but I almost never do that when I don't write in mailing lists like
this one…


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ


snip

Yes, I will agree that most of the fonts out there are geared to the 
English users.


There are sites and fonts out there geared for specific languages. 
Finding a font that matches the special characters of a non-English 
keyboard, Swedish, Hebrew, and other non-Latin glyph based characters is 
a hard thing to do.  Since I do not speak any other language than my 
native English, I never really got into searching for foreign language 
fonts.  I do know that many of the free font sites do have a category or 
two for non-English fonts.  I just never looked deeply into those fonts.


Under your name, it looks like Hebrew glyphs.  One of the things I 
love about LibreOffice is the fact that it freely supports many 
different languages for its menus and the ability to add languages to 
its core package just be adding a language and help pack.  Of course you 
need to have fonts to work with that language, but that is a given.  
Users of MSO have a problem if they want to switch between several 
languages for their menus and such.  I was told that you have to buy a 
different version of MSO to have the other language as an option.


How many different languages do you use in your writing [not menus] of 
documents with Writer?  How easy it is to switch between languages?


The issue of free fonts that are a single language that is not English 
is something that could be a problem for those of us in English speaking 
countries that need to write documents in other languages that have 
special characters/glyphs that are not the normal English keyboard 
characters.  The simple fact that in the US we have a requirement to 
have government documents in both English and Spanish can cause problems 
when you have an American English keyboard and you need to type in the 
special characters that are common in Spanish and not on the normal 
keyboards you buy in the US.


Here is the thing I am thinking about.  I want to publish a list of 
fonts with reference to similar fonts that may be used in place of the 
first font name.  I would love to list at least one alternative font 
name that is available for free.  Now if there are people out there who 
could give the names of non-English fonts and names of fonts similar to 
them, including any free fonts found that work in your native languages, 
I would be pleased to add them to the list. Maybe divide the list into 
language groups would work, though I do not know if the alternative font 
lists names are associated with a non-English language or not.  I am 
just collating the documents I have found online into one large list.  I 
was thinking about having that list on a TDF/LO WIKI page as a free 
service to our users.  I would love to see users of a free alternative 
to MSO use free fonts that are alternatives to paid version [whenever 
there are not free versions of the named font in packages like 
ttf-msfontcore-install for Linux].  Once such a list goes online, then 
users can add font names to it, if and when they find a good font 
substitute for a common font that your must buy.


Having people who are experienced in non-English languages and the font 
names for those languages would be helpful in making the font list 
useful for more than just English users.


If you or any other user would like to add to this font name project, I 
hope to have something available online sometime in the next month or 
so.  I have a lot of pages of single-font-to-single-matching-font 
listings to edit to one name with a list of all of the similar fonts I 
have references to.  Once I have edited the main document with enough 
A-Z names, it will go online and will be updated as time go by.





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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-23 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/7/23 webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com:
 On 07/23/2012 05:29 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:
 snip

 One big problem, for people like me whose native language is not
 English, is that many of those thousands of free fonts miss all
 language specific characters, in my case åäöÅÄÖ, characters that are
 just as common in my language as most of the other characters in my
 alphabet (those characters are real letters and they are not to be
 treated as aAoO with some additional stuff above them – they are even
 sorted as individual characters, that is not among aA and oO, but
 right after zZ). I didn't investigate this very thoroughly, so I don't
 know exactly how many of those millions of free fonts that lacks
 essential characters for many of the top hundred common languages (my
 language reached 77th place in 2009, according to this lisst:

 http://frankherles.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/the-100-most-spoken-languages-on-the-world/)…

 But as long as I write in English, this is of course not a problem,
 but I almost never do that when I don't write in mailing lists like
 this one…


 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ

 snip

 Yes, I will agree that most of the fonts out there are geared to the English
 users.

 There are sites and fonts out there geared for specific languages. Finding a
 font that matches the special characters of a non-English keyboard, Swedish,
 Hebrew, and other non-Latin glyph based characters is a hard thing to do.
 Since I do not speak any other language than my native English, I never
 really got into searching for foreign language fonts.  I do know that many
 of the free font sites do have a category or two for non-English fonts.  I
 just never looked deeply into those fonts.

 Under your name, it looks like Hebrew glyphs.

It's supposed to be my name in Japanese, according to Google
Translate… I hope it's right, because I don't speak or write Japanese
(but I wish I could). I'm Swedish, actually, but my favourite band,
who are Americans (The Ventures), tour Japan a lot and many of their
records are made for the Japanese market, so there are a lot of
Japanese text on them, text that I can't read, unfortunately.

  One of the things I love
 about LibreOffice is the fact that it freely supports many different
 languages for its menus and the ability to add languages to its core package
 just be adding a language and help pack.  Of course you need to have fonts
 to work with that language, but that is a given.  Users of MSO have a
 problem if they want to switch between several languages for their menus and
 such.  I was told that you have to buy a different version of MSO to have
 the other language as an option.

 How many different languages do you use in your writing [not menus] of
 documents with Writer?  How easy it is to switch between languages?

I am not really a multi language guy. We all learn English at school
here, just like in most countries, I suppose, so for me it is maybe
99% Swedish and 1% English. In forums and mailing lists however, I
suspect that it is closer to 50% for both languages. I actually
learned German for two years at school, but since then (early 1980's)
I never used it for anything and I don't know any German people, so I
forgot most of it. I remember some of the grammatics and that nouns
always starts with a capital letter, and I remember a few words, but
not much more than that. I read somewhere that their ß character
(double s, like in ”straße”) is on its way out, but I'm not sure that
is true…


 The issue of free fonts that are a single language that is not English is
 something that could be a problem for those of us in English speaking
 countries that need to write documents in other languages that have special
 characters/glyphs that are not the normal English keyboard characters.
 The simple fact that in the US we have a requirement to have government
 documents in both English and Spanish can cause problems when you have an
 American English keyboard and you need to type in the special characters
 that are common in Spanish and not on the normal keyboards you buy in the
 US.

 Here is the thing I am thinking about.  I want to publish a list of fonts
 with reference to similar fonts that may be used in place of the first font
 name.  I would love to list at least one alternative font name that is
 available for free.  Now if there are people out there who could give the
 names of non-English fonts and names of fonts similar to them, including any
 free fonts found that work in your native languages, I would be pleased to
 add them to the list. Maybe divide the list into language groups would work,
 though I do not know if the alternative font lists names are associated with
 a non-English language or not.  I am just collating the documents I have
 found online into one large list.  I was thinking about having that list on
 a TDF/LO WIKI page as a free service to our users.  I would love to see
 users of a free alternative 

Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this case i 
think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get 
the right fonts
Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04

2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:
 Hi

 I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
 After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
 on what they would consider to be core fonts.
 I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
 so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
 single one of them!

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:
 Hi :)
 There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this case i 
 think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get 
 the right fonts
 Regards from
 Tom :)

Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed
12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm
not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with
Synaptic pre-installed.

Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package,
and I think a few fonts were missing as well.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



 --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04

 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:
 Hi

 I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
 After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
 on what they would consider to be core fonts.
 I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
 so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
 single one of them!

 The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
 the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
 terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
 Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

 sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

 The package contains:
 Andale
 Arial Black
 Arial
 Comic Sans
 Courier New
 Georgia
 Impact
 Times New Roman
 Trebuchet
 Verdana
 Webdings

 If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
 recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
 fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
 Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
 so on.



 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Don Myers

Here is the page for ms core fonts for Ubuntu 12.04:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
Synaptic needed to be manually installed starting about 11.04.

Don


On 07/22/2012 07:32 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:

Hi :)
There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this case i 
think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get 
the right fonts
Regards from
Tom :)

Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed
12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm
not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with
Synaptic pre-installed.

Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package,
and I think a few fonts were missing as well.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



--- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04

2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Don Myers

If you type in
mscorefonts
in the software center search block, it is available there.


On 07/22/2012 07:32 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:

Hi :)
There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this case i 
think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get 
the right fonts
Regards from
Tom :)

Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed
12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm
not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with
Synaptic pre-installed.

Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package,
and I think a few fonts were missing as well.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



--- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04

2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I found the name for Ubuntu 10.04, so the command would be:

sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer

and installing Synaptic Package Manager would be:  

sudo apt-get install synaptic

but i agree with Johnny that it sounds like Ubuntu 12.04 and i suspect he has 
checked the exactly right name already.  Generally i find Synaptic useful for 
looking up things when i am not totally sure of the name of the thing.  It 
searches in package descriptions as well as titles so you can be pretty vague 
with searches.  Then it's easy to pick and choose (although probably ignore all 
the packages starting with lib... so just scroll through them fast).  

The command-line is easiest when giving advice to people because it's pretty 
much identical across all the different distros although some 
families-of-distros use alternatives to apt-get.  I think those alternatives 
use similar tags and, of course, the package names tend to be the same, for 
example libreoffice is called the same thing in all afaik.  

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 12:32

2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:
 Hi :)
 There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this case i 
 think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get 
 the right fonts
 Regards from
 Tom :)

Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed
12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm
not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with
Synaptic pre-installed.

Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package,
and I think a few fonts were missing as well.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



 --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04

 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:
 Hi

 I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
 After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
 on what they would consider to be core fonts.
 I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
 so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
 single one of them!

 The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
 the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
 terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
 Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

 sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

 The package contains:
 Andale
 Arial Black
 Arial
 Comic Sans
 Courier New
 Georgia
 Impact
 Times New Roman
 Trebuchet
 Verdana
 Webdings

 If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
 recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
 fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
 Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
 so on.



 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


The key was to find the core fonts package first.

Yes, I see your point with using the terminal for doing the installation 
of packages, but you need to know what those packages are.


Also, if you use a package manager, or the Software Center, you can 
search for the packages and install them from there without needing to 
get the spelling of the package correct.  Some people, like me, can 
have problems typing at times.  My fingers do not always work correctly 
and I rely on my spell checker to catch things.  So with a package 
manager or software center, you do no need to worry about typing in a 
command in the terminal correctly.


Then there are the differences with the desktop environments.  For 12.04 
I have used Unity, GNOME 3, and MATE for desktop environments.  I prefer 
MATE.  IT works more like the GNOME DE that in used by Ubuntu 10.04, 
better than the options in GNOME 3.


So once the OP knew that he could use a single package to install the 
small core of MS fonts, and then know what it is, it is up to the user 
to decide what if the easiest way to install it.  When I search for a 
package, it is easier for me to install it with the package manager or 
the software center, instead of using that info and type the proper 
commands in the terminal.


IF I am given a terminal command where I can cut/paste [say from a web 
page or an email], then it can be easy for me to use the terminal 
option.  cut/paste was how I typed in the commands to install MATE on 
my 12.04 laptop.


This link that was in a posting
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
was listed as the core fonts for the web.

This list has a few other fonts in their list of MS core fonts for the web.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_fonts_for_the_Web

This link shows which core fonts are on both MS systems and Mac systems.
http://web.nickshanks.com/fonts/microsoft-core-web-fonts

So that means that there many be more core fonts that MS Win7 uses 
that the user might want to install.


He seem to state that he did not want to do all the work to install all 
of the fonts he had in his font folder.  Well as far as I an thinking, 
it is really easy to install a block of fonts. All you need to do is 
place them in a folder, highlight them like you we going to copy them to 
another folder, then just do a right-click and open them with the 
default font viewer.  Then just click on the install button for each 
font.  I is an easy way to get them installed properly in the .fonts 
hidden folder.  At least it is the easiest way I found.


The real kicker is for the user, any user, to install the fonts that 
he/she needs for the work he/she need to do.


As stated before, by me and others, you can get free fonts that are very 
similar to the paid ones of a specific name.  All you have to do is 
look.  BUT, if that person is required to work with a specific font for 
an employer, or other person of authority, then they will have to see if 
they have those fonts somewhere that they can use for their Ubuntu/Linux 
work instead of Windows work.


When I take a laptop/desktop and replace the Windows OS that came with 
it, I copy the fonts that came with the system and then reinstall them 
when I have Ubuntu installed.  That way, I use the fonts that came with 
the computer.  Personally, I feel that if the laptop has the fonts 
installed, then those fonts can stay installed on the system no matter 
what the OS changes to.




On 07/22/2012 08:11 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
I found the name for Ubuntu 10.04, so the command would be:

sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer

and installing Synaptic Package Manager would be:

sudo apt-get install synaptic

but i agree with Johnny that it sounds like Ubuntu 12.04 and i suspect he has checked the 
exactly right name already.  Generally i find Synaptic useful for looking up things when 
i am not totally sure of the name of the thing.  It searches in package descriptions as 
well as titles so you can be pretty vague with searches.  Then it's easy to pick and 
choose (although probably ignore all the packages starting with lib... so 
just scroll through them fast).

The command-line is easiest when giving advice to people because it's pretty 
much identical across all the different distros although some 
families-of-distros use alternatives to apt-get.  I think those alternatives 
use similar tags and, of course, the package names tend to be the same, for 
example libreoffice is called the same thing in all afaik.

Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 12:32

2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:

Hi :)
There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this case i 
think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package

Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
+1
Searching is easier in a nice gui package manager such as Synaptic but if you 
have a good guide to follow it's easier to copypaste stuff.  I would tend to 
use the --help command before following anyone's guidance tho uless i'm happy 
to hose the system and reinstall the OS.  For example 

apt-get --help

would reassure me but 

sudo --help 

might have me worried so i would then have to find out more about the advice.  

Which is better?  Command-line or nice gui?  My answer would have to be that i 
prefer each of them for different circumstances and use both reasonably often.  
I prefer using a pointclick gui if i can find one reasonably quickly.  
Probably each person has their own preferences and none are wrong.  

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Sun, 22/7/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote:

From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 14:44


The key was to find the core fonts package first.

Yes, I see your point with using the terminal for doing the installation of 
packages, but you need to know what those packages are.

Also, if you use a package manager, or the Software Center, you can search for 
the packages and install them from there without needing to get the spelling 
of the package correct.  Some people, like me, can have problems typing at 
times.  My fingers do not always work correctly and I rely on my spell checker 
to catch things.  So with a package manager or software center, you do no need 
to worry about typing in a command in the terminal correctly.

Then there are the differences with the desktop environments.  For 12.04 I have 
used Unity, GNOME 3, and MATE for desktop environments.  I prefer MATE.  IT 
works more like the GNOME DE that in used by Ubuntu 10.04, better than the 
options in GNOME 3.

So once the OP knew that he could use a single package to install the small 
core of MS fonts, and then know what it is, it is up to the user to decide 
what if the easiest way to install it.  When I search for a package, it is 
easier for me to install it with the package manager or the software center, 
instead of using that info and type the proper commands in the terminal.

IF I am given a terminal command where I can cut/paste [say from a web page or 
an email], then it can be easy for me to use the terminal option.  cut/paste 
was how I typed in the commands to install MATE on my 12.04 laptop.

This link that was in a posting
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer
was listed as the core fonts for the web.

This list has a few other fonts in their list of MS core fonts for the web.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_fonts_for_the_Web

This link shows which core fonts are on both MS systems and Mac systems.
http://web.nickshanks.com/fonts/microsoft-core-web-fonts

So that means that there many be more core fonts that MS Win7 uses that the 
user might want to install.

He seem to state that he did not want to do all the work to install all of the 
fonts he had in his font folder.  Well as far as I an thinking, it is really 
easy to install a block of fonts. All you need to do is place them in a folder, 
highlight them like you we going to copy them to another folder, then just do a 
right-click and open them with the default font viewer.  Then just click on the 
install button for each font.  I is an easy way to get them installed 
properly in the .fonts hidden folder.  At least it is the easiest way I found.

The real kicker is for the user, any user, to install the fonts that he/she 
needs for the work he/she need to do.

As stated before, by me and others, you can get free fonts that are very 
similar to the paid ones of a specific name.  All you have to do is look.  BUT, 
if that person is required to work with a specific font for an employer, or 
other person of authority, then they will have to see if they have those fonts 
somewhere that they can use for their Ubuntu/Linux work instead of Windows work.

When I take a laptop/desktop and replace the Windows OS that came with it, I 
copy the fonts that came with the system and then reinstall them when I have 
Ubuntu installed.  That way, I use the fonts that came with the computer.  
Personally, I feel that if the laptop has the fonts installed, then those fonts 
can stay installed on the system no matter what the OS changes to.



On 07/22/2012 08:11 AM, Tom Davies wrote:
 Hi :)
 I found the name for Ubuntu 10.04, so the command would be:
 
 sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer
 
 and installing Synaptic Package Manager would be:
 
 sudo apt-get install synaptic
 
 but i agree with Johnny that it sounds like Ubuntu 12.04 and i suspect he has 
 checked the exactly right name already.  Generally i find Synaptic useful for 
 looking up things when i am not totally sure of the name of the thing.  It 
 searches in package

Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
 although some
 families-of-distros use alternatives to apt-get.  I think those alternatives
 use similar tags and, of course, the package names tend to be the same, for
 example libreoffice is called the same thing in all afaik.

 Regards from
 Tom :)


 --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 12:32

 2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk:

 Hi :)
 There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit.  In this
 case i think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager
 to get the right fonts
 Regards from
 Tom :)

 Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed
 12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm
 not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with
 Synaptic pre-installed.

 Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package,
 and I think a few fonts were missing as well.



 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ


 --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04

 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

 Hi

 I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
 After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
 on what they would consider to be core fonts.
 I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
 so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
 single one of them!

 The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
 the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
 terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
 Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

 sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

 The package contains:
 Andale
 Arial Black
 Arial
 Comic Sans
 Courier New
 Georgia
 Impact
 Times New Roman
 Trebuchet
 Verdana
 Webdings

 If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
 recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
 fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
 Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
 so on.



 Kind regards

 Johnny Rosenberg
 ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Jay Lozier

On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!
If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them 
already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic 
or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7.

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


I try to keep the same set of core fonts - not just MS core web fonts 
- on all of my computers whether they are Windows or Ubuntu systems.  I 
tend to have over 100 fonts installed on these systems for greater 
flexability on the look of my documents printer/exported to PDF for 
distribution.  LO's Export to PDF, CUPS PDF printing for Linux, or doPDF 
PDF printing for Windows.


The font installer, and other fonts software, is a good place to look at 
specialty fonts that might be used for your documents.  I used to use 
some really special ones from time to time, like letters made out of 
bone or other holiday related fonts.


The core fonts that come with most MS systems, or the MS core font 
package for Linux, is just a start.  You really need to look at all of 
your options for typography of your documents.  Then using a PDF 
creation method, that embeds those fonts into your document, will make 
sure that your readers/users of those documents will see your work the 
way you want it to be seen.  LO does a good job with some of the popular 
fonts, but not as good on the decorative ones I tend to use.  That is 
where CUPS PDF and doPDF PDF printer software comes into play.  They 
will embed all of your specialty fonts into your documentation.  One day 
LO's Export to PDF will do that job as good as they do.


As someone who download over 100,000 fonts from free font sites, I can 
tell you that there are many great looking fonts out there for your text 
and special documents that can be better than the MS core fonts.  All 
you have to do is take the time to look, download, and test some of them 
side to side with the MS core fonts.


On 07/22/2012 01:50 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could 
help me

on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!
If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them 
already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic 
or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7.

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Dan
I believe that the correct spelling is synaptic. (It is spelled this way 
for my Ubuntu 11.10.)


Jay Lozier wrote:

On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!

If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them
already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic
or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7.

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread Jay Lozier

On 07/22/2012 02:36 PM, Dan wrote:
I believe that the correct spelling is synaptic. (It is spelled this 
way for my Ubuntu 11.10.)
You are correct, I tend to capitalize names even when they are not 
capitalized.


Jay Lozier wrote:

On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could 
help me

on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!

If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them
already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic
or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from 
Windows 7.

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-22 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


It is spelled with uppercases when I open them and see its name in the 
window's title box.


But either way, I use it more than the Software Center.

With my stroked-out typing skills, at times it is much safer to install 
anything either from a package manager or the software center than it 
would be typing the commands via the Terminal.


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Actually, have anyone lately see all of the TTF font package that are in 
the package manager for Ubuntu?  I have not looked at the 12.04 version 
with this in mind, but the first time I saw what was in 10.04's distro, 
the more I wondered.


I wish I could get a full list of these fonts outside of the 
installation.  Some of the packages are full with too many of them.  I 
would rather pick and choose the ones I would like to use and leave the 
rest out.  Also, it would be nice to not have to wade though all the 
non-English or non-Latin fonts if I could choose to.  But at least there 
are enough for a person to get a taste of what might be out there.  The 
only problem would be accidentally deleting a needed font.  Did that 
once and had to reinstall 10.04 to correct that problem that stopped my 
ability to read menus and some displayed text.


Still, it would be nice to know what are Ubuntu's core needed fonts so 
someone does not do what I did and delete one or three from the 
installed font list.


Of course with the Core Fonts idea, maybe someone should start comparing 
fonts and maybe start a table/list of font names and similar ones win 
the different OSs.  Take a font name and list what is the closest font 
that is installed, be default, in Windows [XP, Vista, Win7], MaxOSX, and 
different Linux distros.  Then list popular fonts by name and paid and 
free fonts that are similar enough to be replacements for them.


There are some list out there, but since LO is a package for creating 
documents, we would do well to have a list of free fonts to replace paid 
ones, like LO is replacing a paid office package. Any takers?


I could search for some of my old comparison lists, and maybe start it 
going, but I could use people to help fill it in.  We could make a WIKI 
page out of this so anyone could contribute to it.  Good idea?


On 07/22/2012 04:09 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 07/22/2012 02:36 PM, Dan wrote:
I believe that the correct spelling is synaptic. (It is spelled this 
way for my Ubuntu 11.10.)
You are correct, I tend to capitalize names even when they are not 
capitalized.


Jay Lozier wrote:

On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could 
help me

on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to 
ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing 
every

single one of them!

If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them
already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic
or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from 
Windows 7.

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-21 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


Each version of Windows had a different set of core fonts.  I am a 
font person so I should know this.  I have over 100,000 of them in my 
collection.


Do you want to install the core fonts on  you Ubuntu system?  I run both 
10.04 and 12.04.


If you go to the Synaptic Package Manager and type in ms core fonts, 
you get something like


ttf-mscorefonts-installer

That is what shows on my 10.04 system I use as my default one, which I 
am typing from here.


Install that and you get the core fonts that seem to be used by most 
of the Windows versions from XP to Win7.  Since I tend to have 200+ 
fonts installed on both my Windows and Ubuntu systems, I have lost track 
of the names of the current core fonts.  There are references to them 
in lists, along with the core fonts for MacOSX, but you do not need to 
know those names and matching fonts between systems unless you do some 
font choosing in a web site's CSS theme.  I use to do that.


SO,
if you want to have your Ubuntu system include the core fonts that MS 
thinks you need, then install that ttf-mscorefonts-installer package.  
It is all you may need as far as MS is concerned.  BUT, if you really 
need some decorative fonts of specialty ones, I may have most of the 
free ones that were available as of 2-3 years back.  I really have not 
looked for many new ones lately.




On 07/21/2012 05:23 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!
  




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-21 Thread Anthony Easthope
Synaptics package manager is available from the software center or is
there a suitable sudo get-apt install code?

on the amount of fonts you have that's insane! that must be close to
10gb worth of them!

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 05:36 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:
 
 Each version of Windows had a different set of core fonts.  I am a 
 font person so I should know this.  I have over 100,000 of them in my 
 collection.
 
 Do you want to install the core fonts on  you Ubuntu system?  I run both 
 10.04 and 12.04.
 
 If you go to the Synaptic Package Manager and type in ms core fonts, 
 you get something like
 
 ttf-mscorefonts-installer
 
 That is what shows on my 10.04 system I use as my default one, which I 
 am typing from here.
 
 Install that and you get the core fonts that seem to be used by most 
 of the Windows versions from XP to Win7.  Since I tend to have 200+ 
 fonts installed on both my Windows and Ubuntu systems, I have lost track 
 of the names of the current core fonts.  There are references to them 
 in lists, along with the core fonts for MacOSX, but you do not need to 
 know those names and matching fonts between systems unless you do some 
 font choosing in a web site's CSS theme.  I use to do that.
 
 SO,
 if you want to have your Ubuntu system include the core fonts that MS 
 thinks you need, then install that ttf-mscorefonts-installer package.  
 It is all you may need as far as MS is concerned.  BUT, if you really 
 need some decorative fonts of specialty ones, I may have most of the 
 free ones that were available as of 2-3 years back.  I really have not 
 looked for many new ones lately.
 
 
 
 On 07/21/2012 05:23 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:
  Hi
 
  I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
  After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
  on what they would consider to be core fonts.
  I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
  so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
  single one of them!

 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-21 Thread John Jason Jordan
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 23:23:35 +0200
Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com dijo:

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help
me on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!

If you're on Ubuntu there is a package that installs the Microsoft core
fonts. I can't remember the exact name, but a search in Synaptic
package manager should reveal the package name.

You can also install all of your old fonts with a single drag and drop.
Fonts available for a single user can be installed in ~/.fonts*. Just
drag them into the folder.

*Since I gather you are relatively new to Linux, ~/ is shorthand for
the user's home folder. For example, my username is jjj, so ~/
means /home/jjj/. 

If you don't have a ~/.fonts folder, just create it. Note the period in
front of the folder. In Linux dot files are invisible unless the user
turns on show invisible files and folders.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-21 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P


You are using Ubuntu 12.04 plus Unity?

It should be in the software center under administration or something 
like that.  I use Ubuntu 12.04 with MATE as my desktop environment 
instead of GNOME 3 or Unity.


Any package manager should give you the installer file.

Even typing in mscore or ms core in the Software Center should give 
you the package you need to install.


I just checked just that with my 12.04 system and it worked fine, once I 
typed the search correctly in Ubuntu's Software Center.




I have well over 14 GB of fonts in my collection.  I still need to sort 
out the unsorted folders and get rid of all the duplicates that still 
many be lurking there.  So I could have over 200,000 or more.  The real 
thing is that 50% of the fonts are within 90% similar to each other.  
Some are 99.9% the same as other, but it takes a side-by-side look at 
them at 70 point or larger to tell the difference.  I once made a study 
of fonts for a project at a college where I got my last computer degree 
from.


Now I deal with the creation of the North American Community DVD and the 
largest English spell checking dictionary[s] that LO has to offer its users.




On 07/21/2012 05:41 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:

Synaptics package manager is available from the software center or is
there a suitable sudo get-apt install code?

on the amount of fonts you have that's insane! that must be close to
10gb worth of them!

On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 05:36 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote:

Each version of Windows had a different set of core fonts.  I am a
font person so I should know this.  I have over 100,000 of them in my
collection.

Do you want to install the core fonts on  you Ubuntu system?  I run both
10.04 and 12.04.

If you go to the Synaptic Package Manager and type in ms core fonts,
you get something like

ttf-mscorefonts-installer

That is what shows on my 10.04 system I use as my default one, which I
am typing from here.

Install that and you get the core fonts that seem to be used by most
of the Windows versions from XP to Win7.  Since I tend to have 200+
fonts installed on both my Windows and Ubuntu systems, I have lost track
of the names of the current core fonts.  There are references to them
in lists, along with the core fonts for MacOSX, but you do not need to
know those names and matching fonts between systems unless you do some
font choosing in a web site's CSS theme.  I use to do that.

SO,
if you want to have your Ubuntu system include the core fonts that MS
thinks you need, then install that ttf-mscorefonts-installer package.
It is all you may need as far as MS is concerned.  BUT, if you really
need some decorative fonts of specialty ones, I may have most of the
free ones that were available as of 2-3 years back.  I really have not
looked for many new ones lately.



On 07/21/2012 05:23 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote:

Hi

I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
on what they would consider to be core fonts.
I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
single one of them!
   



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts

2012-07-21 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com:
 Hi

 I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft.
 After  ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me
 on what they would consider to be core fonts.
 I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu
 so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every
 single one of them!

The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from
the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a
terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is
Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself:

sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer

The package contains:
Andale
Arial Black
Arial
Comic Sans
Courier New
Georgia
Impact
Times New Roman
Trebuchet
Verdana
Webdings

If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's
recommended that you use the free fonts from the package
fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system.
Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and
so on.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg
ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ




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