Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
2012/7/22 webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com: I try to keep the same set of core fonts - not just MS core web fonts - on all of my computers whether they are Windows or Ubuntu systems. I tend to have over 100 fonts installed on these systems for greater flexability on the look of my documents printer/exported to PDF for distribution. LO's Export to PDF, CUPS PDF printing for Linux, or doPDF PDF printing for Windows. The font installer, and other fonts software, is a good place to look at specialty fonts that might be used for your documents. I used to use some really special ones from time to time, like letters made out of bone or other holiday related fonts. The core fonts that come with most MS systems, or the MS core font package for Linux, is just a start. You really need to look at all of your options for typography of your documents. Then using a PDF creation method, that embeds those fonts into your document, will make sure that your readers/users of those documents will see your work the way you want it to be seen. LO does a good job with some of the popular fonts, but not as good on the decorative ones I tend to use. That is where CUPS PDF and doPDF PDF printer software comes into play. They will embed all of your specialty fonts into your documentation. One day LO's Export to PDF will do that job as good as they do. As someone who download over 100,000 fonts from free font sites, I can tell you that there are many great looking fonts out there for your text and special documents that can be better than the MS core fonts. All you have to do is take the time to look, download, and test some of them side to side with the MS core fonts. One big problem, for people like me whose native language is not English, is that many of those thousands of free fonts miss all language specific characters, in my case åäöÅÄÖ, characters that are just as common in my language as most of the other characters in my alphabet (those characters are real letters and they are not to be treated as aAoO with some additional stuff above them – they are even sorted as individual characters, that is not among aA and oO, but right after zZ). I didn't investigate this very thoroughly, so I don't know exactly how many of those millions of free fonts that lacks essential characters for many of the top hundred common languages (my language reached 77th place in 2009, according to this lisst: http://frankherles.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/the-100-most-spoken-languages-on-the-world/)… But as long as I write in English, this is of course not a problem, but I almost never do that when I don't write in mailing lists like this one… Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ On 07/22/2012 01:50 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7. The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
On 07/23/2012 05:29 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: snip One big problem, for people like me whose native language is not English, is that many of those thousands of free fonts miss all language specific characters, in my case åäöÅÄÖ, characters that are just as common in my language as most of the other characters in my alphabet (those characters are real letters and they are not to be treated as aAoO with some additional stuff above them – they are even sorted as individual characters, that is not among aA and oO, but right after zZ). I didn't investigate this very thoroughly, so I don't know exactly how many of those millions of free fonts that lacks essential characters for many of the top hundred common languages (my language reached 77th place in 2009, according to this lisst: http://frankherles.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/the-100-most-spoken-languages-on-the-world/)… But as long as I write in English, this is of course not a problem, but I almost never do that when I don't write in mailing lists like this one… Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ snip Yes, I will agree that most of the fonts out there are geared to the English users. There are sites and fonts out there geared for specific languages. Finding a font that matches the special characters of a non-English keyboard, Swedish, Hebrew, and other non-Latin glyph based characters is a hard thing to do. Since I do not speak any other language than my native English, I never really got into searching for foreign language fonts. I do know that many of the free font sites do have a category or two for non-English fonts. I just never looked deeply into those fonts. Under your name, it looks like Hebrew glyphs. One of the things I love about LibreOffice is the fact that it freely supports many different languages for its menus and the ability to add languages to its core package just be adding a language and help pack. Of course you need to have fonts to work with that language, but that is a given. Users of MSO have a problem if they want to switch between several languages for their menus and such. I was told that you have to buy a different version of MSO to have the other language as an option. How many different languages do you use in your writing [not menus] of documents with Writer? How easy it is to switch between languages? The issue of free fonts that are a single language that is not English is something that could be a problem for those of us in English speaking countries that need to write documents in other languages that have special characters/glyphs that are not the normal English keyboard characters. The simple fact that in the US we have a requirement to have government documents in both English and Spanish can cause problems when you have an American English keyboard and you need to type in the special characters that are common in Spanish and not on the normal keyboards you buy in the US. Here is the thing I am thinking about. I want to publish a list of fonts with reference to similar fonts that may be used in place of the first font name. I would love to list at least one alternative font name that is available for free. Now if there are people out there who could give the names of non-English fonts and names of fonts similar to them, including any free fonts found that work in your native languages, I would be pleased to add them to the list. Maybe divide the list into language groups would work, though I do not know if the alternative font lists names are associated with a non-English language or not. I am just collating the documents I have found online into one large list. I was thinking about having that list on a TDF/LO WIKI page as a free service to our users. I would love to see users of a free alternative to MSO use free fonts that are alternatives to paid version [whenever there are not free versions of the named font in packages like ttf-msfontcore-install for Linux]. Once such a list goes online, then users can add font names to it, if and when they find a good font substitute for a common font that your must buy. Having people who are experienced in non-English languages and the font names for those languages would be helpful in making the font list useful for more than just English users. If you or any other user would like to add to this font name project, I hope to have something available online sometime in the next month or so. I have a lot of pages of single-font-to-single-matching-font listings to edit to one name with a list of all of the similar fonts I have references to. Once I have edited the main document with enough A-Z names, it will go online and will be updated as time go by. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
2012/7/23 webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com: On 07/23/2012 05:29 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: snip One big problem, for people like me whose native language is not English, is that many of those thousands of free fonts miss all language specific characters, in my case åäöÅÄÖ, characters that are just as common in my language as most of the other characters in my alphabet (those characters are real letters and they are not to be treated as aAoO with some additional stuff above them – they are even sorted as individual characters, that is not among aA and oO, but right after zZ). I didn't investigate this very thoroughly, so I don't know exactly how many of those millions of free fonts that lacks essential characters for many of the top hundred common languages (my language reached 77th place in 2009, according to this lisst: http://frankherles.wordpress.com/2009/06/28/the-100-most-spoken-languages-on-the-world/)… But as long as I write in English, this is of course not a problem, but I almost never do that when I don't write in mailing lists like this one… Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ snip Yes, I will agree that most of the fonts out there are geared to the English users. There are sites and fonts out there geared for specific languages. Finding a font that matches the special characters of a non-English keyboard, Swedish, Hebrew, and other non-Latin glyph based characters is a hard thing to do. Since I do not speak any other language than my native English, I never really got into searching for foreign language fonts. I do know that many of the free font sites do have a category or two for non-English fonts. I just never looked deeply into those fonts. Under your name, it looks like Hebrew glyphs. It's supposed to be my name in Japanese, according to Google Translate… I hope it's right, because I don't speak or write Japanese (but I wish I could). I'm Swedish, actually, but my favourite band, who are Americans (The Ventures), tour Japan a lot and many of their records are made for the Japanese market, so there are a lot of Japanese text on them, text that I can't read, unfortunately. One of the things I love about LibreOffice is the fact that it freely supports many different languages for its menus and the ability to add languages to its core package just be adding a language and help pack. Of course you need to have fonts to work with that language, but that is a given. Users of MSO have a problem if they want to switch between several languages for their menus and such. I was told that you have to buy a different version of MSO to have the other language as an option. How many different languages do you use in your writing [not menus] of documents with Writer? How easy it is to switch between languages? I am not really a multi language guy. We all learn English at school here, just like in most countries, I suppose, so for me it is maybe 99% Swedish and 1% English. In forums and mailing lists however, I suspect that it is closer to 50% for both languages. I actually learned German for two years at school, but since then (early 1980's) I never used it for anything and I don't know any German people, so I forgot most of it. I remember some of the grammatics and that nouns always starts with a capital letter, and I remember a few words, but not much more than that. I read somewhere that their ß character (double s, like in ”straße”) is on its way out, but I'm not sure that is true… The issue of free fonts that are a single language that is not English is something that could be a problem for those of us in English speaking countries that need to write documents in other languages that have special characters/glyphs that are not the normal English keyboard characters. The simple fact that in the US we have a requirement to have government documents in both English and Spanish can cause problems when you have an American English keyboard and you need to type in the special characters that are common in Spanish and not on the normal keyboards you buy in the US. Here is the thing I am thinking about. I want to publish a list of fonts with reference to similar fonts that may be used in place of the first font name. I would love to list at least one alternative font name that is available for free. Now if there are people out there who could give the names of non-English fonts and names of fonts similar to them, including any free fonts found that work in your native languages, I would be pleased to add them to the list. Maybe divide the list into language groups would work, though I do not know if the alternative font lists names are associated with a non-English language or not. I am just collating the documents I have found online into one large list. I was thinking about having that list on a TDF/LO WIKI page as a free service to our users. I would love to see users of a free alternative
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
Hi :) There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit. In this case i think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get the right fonts Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit. In this case i think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get the right fonts Regards from Tom :) Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed 12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with Synaptic pre-installed. Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package, and I think a few fonts were missing as well. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
Here is the page for ms core fonts for Ubuntu 12.04: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer Synaptic needed to be manually installed starting about 11.04. Don On 07/22/2012 07:32 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit. In this case i think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get the right fonts Regards from Tom :) Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed 12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with Synaptic pre-installed. Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package, and I think a few fonts were missing as well. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
If you type in mscorefonts in the software center search block, it is available there. On 07/22/2012 07:32 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit. In this case i think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get the right fonts Regards from Tom :) Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed 12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with Synaptic pre-installed. Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package, and I think a few fonts were missing as well. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
Hi :) I found the name for Ubuntu 10.04, so the command would be: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer and installing Synaptic Package Manager would be: sudo apt-get install synaptic but i agree with Johnny that it sounds like Ubuntu 12.04 and i suspect he has checked the exactly right name already. Generally i find Synaptic useful for looking up things when i am not totally sure of the name of the thing. It searches in package descriptions as well as titles so you can be pretty vague with searches. Then it's easy to pick and choose (although probably ignore all the packages starting with lib... so just scroll through them fast). The command-line is easiest when giving advice to people because it's pretty much identical across all the different distros although some families-of-distros use alternatives to apt-get. I think those alternatives use similar tags and, of course, the package names tend to be the same, for example libreoffice is called the same thing in all afaik. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 12:32 2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit. In this case i think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get the right fonts Regards from Tom :) Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed 12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with Synaptic pre-installed. Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package, and I think a few fonts were missing as well. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
The key was to find the core fonts package first. Yes, I see your point with using the terminal for doing the installation of packages, but you need to know what those packages are. Also, if you use a package manager, or the Software Center, you can search for the packages and install them from there without needing to get the spelling of the package correct. Some people, like me, can have problems typing at times. My fingers do not always work correctly and I rely on my spell checker to catch things. So with a package manager or software center, you do no need to worry about typing in a command in the terminal correctly. Then there are the differences with the desktop environments. For 12.04 I have used Unity, GNOME 3, and MATE for desktop environments. I prefer MATE. IT works more like the GNOME DE that in used by Ubuntu 10.04, better than the options in GNOME 3. So once the OP knew that he could use a single package to install the small core of MS fonts, and then know what it is, it is up to the user to decide what if the easiest way to install it. When I search for a package, it is easier for me to install it with the package manager or the software center, instead of using that info and type the proper commands in the terminal. IF I am given a terminal command where I can cut/paste [say from a web page or an email], then it can be easy for me to use the terminal option. cut/paste was how I typed in the commands to install MATE on my 12.04 laptop. This link that was in a posting https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer was listed as the core fonts for the web. This list has a few other fonts in their list of MS core fonts for the web. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_fonts_for_the_Web This link shows which core fonts are on both MS systems and Mac systems. http://web.nickshanks.com/fonts/microsoft-core-web-fonts So that means that there many be more core fonts that MS Win7 uses that the user might want to install. He seem to state that he did not want to do all the work to install all of the fonts he had in his font folder. Well as far as I an thinking, it is really easy to install a block of fonts. All you need to do is place them in a folder, highlight them like you we going to copy them to another folder, then just do a right-click and open them with the default font viewer. Then just click on the install button for each font. I is an easy way to get them installed properly in the .fonts hidden folder. At least it is the easiest way I found. The real kicker is for the user, any user, to install the fonts that he/she needs for the work he/she need to do. As stated before, by me and others, you can get free fonts that are very similar to the paid ones of a specific name. All you have to do is look. BUT, if that person is required to work with a specific font for an employer, or other person of authority, then they will have to see if they have those fonts somewhere that they can use for their Ubuntu/Linux work instead of Windows work. When I take a laptop/desktop and replace the Windows OS that came with it, I copy the fonts that came with the system and then reinstall them when I have Ubuntu installed. That way, I use the fonts that came with the computer. Personally, I feel that if the laptop has the fonts installed, then those fonts can stay installed on the system no matter what the OS changes to. On 07/22/2012 08:11 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I found the name for Ubuntu 10.04, so the command would be: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer and installing Synaptic Package Manager would be: sudo apt-get install synaptic but i agree with Johnny that it sounds like Ubuntu 12.04 and i suspect he has checked the exactly right name already. Generally i find Synaptic useful for looking up things when i am not totally sure of the name of the thing. It searches in package descriptions as well as titles so you can be pretty vague with searches. Then it's easy to pick and choose (although probably ignore all the packages starting with lib... so just scroll through them fast). The command-line is easiest when giving advice to people because it's pretty much identical across all the different distros although some families-of-distros use alternatives to apt-get. I think those alternatives use similar tags and, of course, the package names tend to be the same, for example libreoffice is called the same thing in all afaik. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 12:32 2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit. In this case i think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
Hi :) +1 Searching is easier in a nice gui package manager such as Synaptic but if you have a good guide to follow it's easier to copypaste stuff. I would tend to use the --help command before following anyone's guidance tho uless i'm happy to hose the system and reinstall the OS. For example apt-get --help would reassure me but sudo --help might have me worried so i would then have to find out more about the advice. Which is better? Command-line or nice gui? My answer would have to be that i prefer each of them for different circumstances and use both reasonably often. I prefer using a pointclick gui if i can find one reasonably quickly. Probably each person has their own preferences and none are wrong. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 22/7/12, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 14:44 The key was to find the core fonts package first. Yes, I see your point with using the terminal for doing the installation of packages, but you need to know what those packages are. Also, if you use a package manager, or the Software Center, you can search for the packages and install them from there without needing to get the spelling of the package correct. Some people, like me, can have problems typing at times. My fingers do not always work correctly and I rely on my spell checker to catch things. So with a package manager or software center, you do no need to worry about typing in a command in the terminal correctly. Then there are the differences with the desktop environments. For 12.04 I have used Unity, GNOME 3, and MATE for desktop environments. I prefer MATE. IT works more like the GNOME DE that in used by Ubuntu 10.04, better than the options in GNOME 3. So once the OP knew that he could use a single package to install the small core of MS fonts, and then know what it is, it is up to the user to decide what if the easiest way to install it. When I search for a package, it is easier for me to install it with the package manager or the software center, instead of using that info and type the proper commands in the terminal. IF I am given a terminal command where I can cut/paste [say from a web page or an email], then it can be easy for me to use the terminal option. cut/paste was how I typed in the commands to install MATE on my 12.04 laptop. This link that was in a posting https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+package/ttf-mscorefonts-installer was listed as the core fonts for the web. This list has a few other fonts in their list of MS core fonts for the web. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_fonts_for_the_Web This link shows which core fonts are on both MS systems and Mac systems. http://web.nickshanks.com/fonts/microsoft-core-web-fonts So that means that there many be more core fonts that MS Win7 uses that the user might want to install. He seem to state that he did not want to do all the work to install all of the fonts he had in his font folder. Well as far as I an thinking, it is really easy to install a block of fonts. All you need to do is place them in a folder, highlight them like you we going to copy them to another folder, then just do a right-click and open them with the default font viewer. Then just click on the install button for each font. I is an easy way to get them installed properly in the .fonts hidden folder. At least it is the easiest way I found. The real kicker is for the user, any user, to install the fonts that he/she needs for the work he/she need to do. As stated before, by me and others, you can get free fonts that are very similar to the paid ones of a specific name. All you have to do is look. BUT, if that person is required to work with a specific font for an employer, or other person of authority, then they will have to see if they have those fonts somewhere that they can use for their Ubuntu/Linux work instead of Windows work. When I take a laptop/desktop and replace the Windows OS that came with it, I copy the fonts that came with the system and then reinstall them when I have Ubuntu installed. That way, I use the fonts that came with the computer. Personally, I feel that if the laptop has the fonts installed, then those fonts can stay installed on the system no matter what the OS changes to. On 07/22/2012 08:11 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I found the name for Ubuntu 10.04, so the command would be: sudo apt-get install ttf-mscorefonts-installer and installing Synaptic Package Manager would be: sudo apt-get install synaptic but i agree with Johnny that it sounds like Ubuntu 12.04 and i suspect he has checked the exactly right name already. Generally i find Synaptic useful for looking up things when i am not totally sure of the name of the thing. It searches in package
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
although some families-of-distros use alternatives to apt-get. I think those alternatives use similar tags and, of course, the package names tend to be the same, for example libreoffice is called the same thing in all afaik. Regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 12:32 2012/7/22 Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk: Hi :) There is always at least 1 distro that renames things a bit. In this case i think it's Ubuntu so it might be worth searching your package manager to get the right fonts Regards from Tom :) Well, the OP said he had Ubuntu, but not which version. I assumed 12.04 since he also asked how to install Synaptic. I think (but I'm not 100% sure) that 12.04 is the first Ubuntu that doesn't come with Synaptic pre-installed. Some older versions of Ubuntu have a different name of that package, and I think a few fonts were missing as well. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ --- On Sun, 22/7/12, Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Johnny Rosenberg gurus.knu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts To: users@global.libreoffice.org Date: Sunday, 22 July, 2012, 6:04 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7. The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
I try to keep the same set of core fonts - not just MS core web fonts - on all of my computers whether they are Windows or Ubuntu systems. I tend to have over 100 fonts installed on these systems for greater flexability on the look of my documents printer/exported to PDF for distribution. LO's Export to PDF, CUPS PDF printing for Linux, or doPDF PDF printing for Windows. The font installer, and other fonts software, is a good place to look at specialty fonts that might be used for your documents. I used to use some really special ones from time to time, like letters made out of bone or other holiday related fonts. The core fonts that come with most MS systems, or the MS core font package for Linux, is just a start. You really need to look at all of your options for typography of your documents. Then using a PDF creation method, that embeds those fonts into your document, will make sure that your readers/users of those documents will see your work the way you want it to be seen. LO does a good job with some of the popular fonts, but not as good on the decorative ones I tend to use. That is where CUPS PDF and doPDF PDF printer software comes into play. They will embed all of your specialty fonts into your documentation. One day LO's Export to PDF will do that job as good as they do. As someone who download over 100,000 fonts from free font sites, I can tell you that there are many great looking fonts out there for your text and special documents that can be better than the MS core fonts. All you have to do is take the time to look, download, and test some of them side to side with the MS core fonts. On 07/22/2012 01:50 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7. The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
I believe that the correct spelling is synaptic. (It is spelled this way for my Ubuntu 11.10.) Jay Lozier wrote: On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7. The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
On 07/22/2012 02:36 PM, Dan wrote: I believe that the correct spelling is synaptic. (It is spelled this way for my Ubuntu 11.10.) You are correct, I tend to capitalize names even when they are not capitalized. Jay Lozier wrote: On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7. The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
It is spelled with uppercases when I open them and see its name in the window's title box. But either way, I use it more than the Software Center. With my stroked-out typing skills, at times it is much safer to install anything either from a package manager or the software center than it would be typing the commands via the Terminal. -- Actually, have anyone lately see all of the TTF font package that are in the package manager for Ubuntu? I have not looked at the 12.04 version with this in mind, but the first time I saw what was in 10.04's distro, the more I wondered. I wish I could get a full list of these fonts outside of the installation. Some of the packages are full with too many of them. I would rather pick and choose the ones I would like to use and leave the rest out. Also, it would be nice to not have to wade though all the non-English or non-Latin fonts if I could choose to. But at least there are enough for a person to get a taste of what might be out there. The only problem would be accidentally deleting a needed font. Did that once and had to reinstall 10.04 to correct that problem that stopped my ability to read menus and some displayed text. Still, it would be nice to know what are Ubuntu's core needed fonts so someone does not do what I did and delete one or three from the installed font list. Of course with the Core Fonts idea, maybe someone should start comparing fonts and maybe start a table/list of font names and similar ones win the different OSs. Take a font name and list what is the closest font that is installed, be default, in Windows [XP, Vista, Win7], MaxOSX, and different Linux distros. Then list popular fonts by name and paid and free fonts that are similar enough to be replacements for them. There are some list out there, but since LO is a package for creating documents, we would do well to have a list of free fonts to replace paid ones, like LO is replacing a paid office package. Any takers? I could search for some of my old comparison lists, and maybe start it going, but I could use people to help fill it in. We could make a WIKI page out of this so anyone could contribute to it. Good idea? On 07/22/2012 04:09 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 07/22/2012 02:36 PM, Dan wrote: I believe that the correct spelling is synaptic. (It is spelled this way for my Ubuntu 11.10.) You are correct, I tend to capitalize names even when they are not capitalized. Jay Lozier wrote: On 07/22/2012 01:04 AM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote: 2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! If you search for ttf-mscorefonts in Synpatic you might find them already installed. Also, you can install a font installer via Synaptic or the Software Center to install the fonts you backed up from Windows 7. The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
Each version of Windows had a different set of core fonts. I am a font person so I should know this. I have over 100,000 of them in my collection. Do you want to install the core fonts on you Ubuntu system? I run both 10.04 and 12.04. If you go to the Synaptic Package Manager and type in ms core fonts, you get something like ttf-mscorefonts-installer That is what shows on my 10.04 system I use as my default one, which I am typing from here. Install that and you get the core fonts that seem to be used by most of the Windows versions from XP to Win7. Since I tend to have 200+ fonts installed on both my Windows and Ubuntu systems, I have lost track of the names of the current core fonts. There are references to them in lists, along with the core fonts for MacOSX, but you do not need to know those names and matching fonts between systems unless you do some font choosing in a web site's CSS theme. I use to do that. SO, if you want to have your Ubuntu system include the core fonts that MS thinks you need, then install that ttf-mscorefonts-installer package. It is all you may need as far as MS is concerned. BUT, if you really need some decorative fonts of specialty ones, I may have most of the free ones that were available as of 2-3 years back. I really have not looked for many new ones lately. On 07/21/2012 05:23 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
Synaptics package manager is available from the software center or is there a suitable sudo get-apt install code? on the amount of fonts you have that's insane! that must be close to 10gb worth of them! On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 05:36 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Each version of Windows had a different set of core fonts. I am a font person so I should know this. I have over 100,000 of them in my collection. Do you want to install the core fonts on you Ubuntu system? I run both 10.04 and 12.04. If you go to the Synaptic Package Manager and type in ms core fonts, you get something like ttf-mscorefonts-installer That is what shows on my 10.04 system I use as my default one, which I am typing from here. Install that and you get the core fonts that seem to be used by most of the Windows versions from XP to Win7. Since I tend to have 200+ fonts installed on both my Windows and Ubuntu systems, I have lost track of the names of the current core fonts. There are references to them in lists, along with the core fonts for MacOSX, but you do not need to know those names and matching fonts between systems unless you do some font choosing in a web site's CSS theme. I use to do that. SO, if you want to have your Ubuntu system include the core fonts that MS thinks you need, then install that ttf-mscorefonts-installer package. It is all you may need as far as MS is concerned. BUT, if you really need some decorative fonts of specialty ones, I may have most of the free ones that were available as of 2-3 years back. I really have not looked for many new ones lately. On 07/21/2012 05:23 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 23:23:35 +0200 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com dijo: I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! If you're on Ubuntu there is a package that installs the Microsoft core fonts. I can't remember the exact name, but a search in Synaptic package manager should reveal the package name. You can also install all of your old fonts with a single drag and drop. Fonts available for a single user can be installed in ~/.fonts*. Just drag them into the folder. *Since I gather you are relatively new to Linux, ~/ is shorthand for the user's home folder. For example, my username is jjj, so ~/ means /home/jjj/. If you don't have a ~/.fonts folder, just create it. Note the period in front of the folder. In Linux dot files are invisible unless the user turns on show invisible files and folders. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
You are using Ubuntu 12.04 plus Unity? It should be in the software center under administration or something like that. I use Ubuntu 12.04 with MATE as my desktop environment instead of GNOME 3 or Unity. Any package manager should give you the installer file. Even typing in mscore or ms core in the Software Center should give you the package you need to install. I just checked just that with my 12.04 system and it worked fine, once I typed the search correctly in Ubuntu's Software Center. I have well over 14 GB of fonts in my collection. I still need to sort out the unsorted folders and get rid of all the duplicates that still many be lurking there. So I could have over 200,000 or more. The real thing is that 50% of the fonts are within 90% similar to each other. Some are 99.9% the same as other, but it takes a side-by-side look at them at 70 point or larger to tell the difference. I once made a study of fonts for a project at a college where I got my last computer degree from. Now I deal with the creation of the North American Community DVD and the largest English spell checking dictionary[s] that LO has to offer its users. On 07/21/2012 05:41 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Synaptics package manager is available from the software center or is there a suitable sudo get-apt install code? on the amount of fonts you have that's insane! that must be close to 10gb worth of them! On Sat, 21 Jul 2012, at 05:36 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Each version of Windows had a different set of core fonts. I am a font person so I should know this. I have over 100,000 of them in my collection. Do you want to install the core fonts on you Ubuntu system? I run both 10.04 and 12.04. If you go to the Synaptic Package Manager and type in ms core fonts, you get something like ttf-mscorefonts-installer That is what shows on my 10.04 system I use as my default one, which I am typing from here. Install that and you get the core fonts that seem to be used by most of the Windows versions from XP to Win7. Since I tend to have 200+ fonts installed on both my Windows and Ubuntu systems, I have lost track of the names of the current core fonts. There are references to them in lists, along with the core fonts for MacOSX, but you do not need to know those names and matching fonts between systems unless you do some font choosing in a web site's CSS theme. I use to do that. SO, if you want to have your Ubuntu system include the core fonts that MS thinks you need, then install that ttf-mscorefonts-installer package. It is all you may need as far as MS is concerned. BUT, if you really need some decorative fonts of specialty ones, I may have most of the free ones that were available as of 2-3 years back. I really have not looked for many new ones lately. On 07/21/2012 05:23 PM, Anthony Easthope wrote: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Microsoft Core Fonts
2012/7/21 Anthony Easthope antiso...@myopera.com: Hi I was wondering what would be considered the core fonts on Microsoft. After ages fruitless searching I was wondering if anybody could help me on what they would consider to be core fonts. I backed up my fonts folder from windows 7 before the change to ubuntu so I had all of them problem is I can not be bothered installing every single one of them! The quickest way, if you want to install those mss TTF core fonts from the repositories, is from a terminal. Just copy this line into a terminal and hit Enter. Note that the keyboard shortcut for Paste is Ctrl+Shift+v, if you didn't edit those yourself: sudo apt-get install ms-corefonts-installer The package contains: Andale Arial Black Arial Comic Sans Courier New Georgia Impact Times New Roman Trebuchet Verdana Webdings If you only want to use Arial, Times New Roman and Courier New, it's recommended that you use the free fonts from the package fonts-liberation instead (probably already installed on your system. Those are called something like Liberation Sans (looks like Arial) and so on. Kind regards Johnny Rosenberg ジョニー・ローゼンバーグ -- antiso...@myopera.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted