Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Help with formatting footnotes...

2011-07-08 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)

You might find that using Shift and Ctrl V inserts text better than  using Ctrl 
V without the Shift key.  I'm not sure how the unformatted  paste will look 
but it sometimes works :)


I think the Documentation Team might be worth asking if you could join their 
mailing list  forward it to them.

Can you use the older Doc format or do you really have to use DocX?  Doc 
(without the X) is more compatible with more systems than DocX.  DocX even 
misbehaves between different version of MS Office apparently, ie between MS 
Office 2007 and MS Office 2010.  


I find it odd that academia is supporting the move to restricting access to 
information rather than supporting intellectual freedom
http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/
http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/opendocument/
But this sort of thing happens when people allow commercial interests to push 
them.  


Good luck and regards from
Tom :)









From: gena_hill gena_h...@yahoo.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Fri, 8 July, 2011 16:44:20
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Help with formatting footnotes...

Hi All!  Thank you for the replies!
When I say footnotes, I am talking about the type used in academic
writing.  Endnotes also have the same problem...  For a simple explanation
of what footnotes and endnotes are, see:
http://www.aresearchguide.com/7footnot.html

Let me be a little more specific about my problem . . . while I am writing,
I use Zotero to insert footnotes containing citation information.  Also, I
add footnotes manually when I need to add a little extra information.  These
footnotes come up in a different font than I am using, and I also like to
change the font size to be a little smaller.  I can not select all the
footnotes at once and change these things.  I have to do each one manually,
which adds up quickly when you consider there are 50-60 per chapter of my 8
chapter dissertation.  And then there are other documents that I am working
on too.  I almost never have a piece of writing without footnotes.

The next problem I have encountered is how footnotes and endnotes appear in
.docx format; especially when I open them in Microsoft Word 2008 or 2011 for
Mac.  Unfortunately, no matter how much I'd like to use LibreOffice instead
of Word, I have to submit my documents in .docx form to be read in Word.  I
have already done this once, and I had to re-insert every footnote in Word
after transferring the document.

Because of these two problems, at this point, LibreOffice is simply unusable
for me - and probably for most academics and university students.  It's a
shame, because I really love it otherwise - especially its support for
uncommon fonts (which I use a lot of).  I can use N'Ko with LibreOffice, but
not with Word 2011.  (For more info on N'Ko, see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%27Ko_script).  While creating a macro may
work, footnotes and endnotes are something that really should work
automatically - especially for people who aren't good with computers, like
me! :)  And even if I do get that working, .docx files need to transfer
seamlessly to Word 2011.  Unfortunately, even if I switch to LibreOffice,
the rest of my colleagues probably won't and so I need to be able to work
with them without problems.

I hope this explains everything!  Thanks again! 

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Help with formatting footnotes...

2011-07-08 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Gena,

gena_hill schrieb:
[..]


Let me be a little more specific about my problem . . . while I am writing,
I use Zotero to insert footnotes containing citation information.


You insert this as true LibO footnotes?

  Also, I

add footnotes manually when I need to add a little extra information.  These
footnotes come up in a different font than I am using, and I also like to
change the font size to be a little smaller.  I can not select all the
footnotes at once and change these things.   I have to do each one manually,
which adds up quickly when you consider there are 50-60 per chapter of my 8
chapter dissertation.  And then there are other documents that I am working
on too.  I almost never have a piece of writing without footnotes.


If they are true footnotes, they have the paragraph style 'footnote'. 
Goto EditFindReplace and expand the dialog. Check Search for Styles 
and select footnote from the search drop down list. Then click Find 
all. Now all footnotes are marked and you can remove all hard formatting 
with FormatClear Direct Formatting. Close dialog.


Now right click a footnote and select the item Edit Paragraph Style. In 
tap Font set the desired font and font size.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Help with formatting footnotes...

2011-07-08 Thread jorge
Hi

Gina, Do you have to share yours documets with yours colleagues and
they have to make changes ? If not you can do your work with LibreOffice
and make a pdf document with LibreOffice and send it to your
collegues.

Regards,

Jorge Rodríguez

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El vie, 08-07-2011 a las 08:44 -0700, gena_hill escribió:
 Hi All!  Thank you for the replies!
 When I say footnotes, I am talking about the type used in academic
 writing.  Endnotes also have the same problem...  For a simple explanation
 of what footnotes and endnotes are, see:
 http://www.aresearchguide.com/7footnot.html
 
 Let me be a little more specific about my problem . . . while I am writing,
 I use Zotero to insert footnotes containing citation information.  Also, I
 add footnotes manually when I need to add a little extra information.  These
 footnotes come up in a different font than I am using, and I also like to
 change the font size to be a little smaller.  I can not select all the
 footnotes at once and change these things.  I have to do each one manually,
 which adds up quickly when you consider there are 50-60 per chapter of my 8
 chapter dissertation.  And then there are other documents that I am working
 on too.  I almost never have a piece of writing without footnotes.
 
 The next problem I have encountered is how footnotes and endnotes appear in
 .docx format; especially when I open them in Microsoft Word 2008 or 2011 for
 Mac.  Unfortunately, no matter how much I'd like to use LibreOffice instead
 of Word, I have to submit my documents in .docx form to be read in Word.  I
 have already done this once, and I had to re-insert every footnote in Word
 after transferring the document.
 
 Because of these two problems, at this point, LibreOffice is simply unusable
 for me - and probably for most academics and university students.  It's a
 shame, because I really love it otherwise - especially its support for
 uncommon fonts (which I use a lot of).  I can use N'Ko with LibreOffice, but
 not with Word 2011.  (For more info on N'Ko, see:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%27Ko_script).  While creating a macro may
 work, footnotes and endnotes are something that really should work
 automatically - especially for people who aren't good with computers, like
 me! :)  And even if I do get that working, .docx files need to transfer
 seamlessly to Word 2011.  Unfortunately, even if I switch to LibreOffice,
 the rest of my colleagues probably won't and so I need to be able to work
 with them without problems.
 
 I hope this explains everything!  Thanks again! 
 
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