Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi
Hi :) Thanks for clarifying a few things there :) Kexi doesn't appear in the repos for Ubuntu and i don't know an easy way to add them. I am sure there is an easier way than installing a ton of stuff just to get those repos! Thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Jarosław Staniek stan...@kde.org To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Thu, 25 August, 2011 22:28:16 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Kexi is the database app in Calligra. Calligra is a fork of KOffice. KOffice gave all their remaining database devs to Calligra and dropped their version of the database. Calligra seems very active. Unfortunately Calligra and KOffice are really quite dependant on the K Desktop Environment (KDE). They do have a port for Windows (and possibly Mac, i'm not sure). Calligra have also developed a few apps that can work on mobile platforms but that doesn't include Kexi yet. Hi Tom, I am Kexi developer. Kexi is dependent only on KDE Frameworks, not KDE Desktop. Like Libre Office, you can run Kexi with other desktops e.g. GNOME, any many do that. To show how small the dependencies are, I would maybe measure the real size of them e.g. for two popular distributions. So, the non-KDE versions of distros are going to ask for a lot of dependencies, probably Qt libraries and stuff. You will probably need to add the appropriate official repos. These days Qt is smalled in size than 5 average JPEG files :) For Ubuntu you can try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install all of Kubuntu into Ubuntu but you might want to revert to your Gnome or Unity DE at the login prompt (have a look along the bottom task-bar/panel when you get the login prompt). 'sudo apt-get install kexi' or so, would do the trick better because it would install only dependencies needed by Kexi, not entire KDE Desktop. I am looking forward to hear feedback from people that use Kexi outside of KDE Desktop. -- regards / pozdrawiam, Jaroslaw Staniek http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek Kexi Calligra (kexi-project.org, identi.ca/kexi, calligra-suite.org) KDE Software Development Platform on MS Windows (windows.kde.org) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi
Jaroslav On Thu, 2011-08-25 at 23:28 +0200, Jarosław Staniek wrote: Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Kexi is the database app in Calligra. Calligra is a fork of KOffice. KOffice gave all their remaining database devs to Calligra and dropped their version of the database. Calligra seems very active. Unfortunately Calligra and KOffice are really quite dependant on the K Desktop Environment (KDE). They do have a port for Windows (and possibly Mac, i'm not sure). Calligra have also developed a few apps that can work on mobile platforms but that doesn't include Kexi yet. Hi Tom, I am Kexi developer. Kexi is dependent only on KDE Frameworks, not KDE Desktop. Like Libre Office, you can run Kexi with other desktops e.g. GNOME, any many do that. To show how small the dependencies are, I would maybe measure the real size of them e.g. for two popular distributions. So, the non-KDE versions of distros are going to ask for a lot of dependencies, probably Qt libraries and stuff. You will probably need to add the appropriate official repos. These days Qt is smalled in size than 5 average JPEG files :) For Ubuntu you can try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop to install all of Kubuntu into Ubuntu but you might want to revert to your Gnome or Unity DE at the login prompt (have a look along the bottom task-bar/panel when you get the login prompt). 'sudo apt-get install kexi' or so, would do the trick better because it would install only dependencies needed by Kexi, not entire KDE Desktop. I am looking forward to hear feedback from people that use Kexi outside of KDE Desktop. -- regards / pozdrawiam, Jaroslaw Staniek http://www.linkedin.com/in/jstaniek Kexi Calligra (kexi-project.org, identi.ca/kexi, calligra-suite.org) KDE Software Development Platform on MS Windows (windows.kde.org) You can install KOffice in Gnome via Synaptic with Ubuntu. Several dependencies are installed also, the number did not seem excessive (about 5 for KEXI). You can enter KEXI or KOffice for the full suite. I have not use Kexi, only perused the menus. It seems similar to Base. What is the embedded database engine used? -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi Data Base as Alternative of Base of LO
Hi Jorge Don't worry. Most of us appreciated your posts and still do :) Mailing Lists are really old-fashioned and seem to have developed all sorts of unwritten rules over the decades that new people are supposed to just magically know. People that do know some of those tricks think they are too obvious to be worth writing down and get all upset when you don't conform to those unwritten or obscurely hidden 'rules'. It doesn't help that those older folk often lack social skills and have no idea about etiquette such as being polite, friendly and welcoming. Strangely, people that demand you obey unwritten netiquette fail to observe basic normal etiquette and are also often quite insulting about people that follow rules 'excessively' (sometimes calling them drones). Sometimes the rudeness is due to medical conditions such as slight autism or asperges syndrome or OCD all of which can be helpful to programmers but not to human-to-human contact. We need programmers to help answer questions on the Users List and in all areas of the project. There is a link to netiquette guidelines at the bottom of all messages but it's not as comprehensive as these older folk think. It's also ambiguous and difficult to understand. When you want to start a new topic/thread you are supposed to click on New rather than Reply to and then copypaste the Users List email address into the To field. users@global.libreoffice.org I'm not sure how to start a new thread in Nabble http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/ Hopefully it's easier there. Nabble is a great way to view this mailing list btw. Anyway, the point is, don't worry about criticisms from a couple of people most of us have appreciated your comments so keep up the good work :) Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 24 August, 2011 5:37:58 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi Data Base as Alternative of Base of LO Excuse me: I read (past) not red (pronunciation) Regards, Jorge Rodríguez _ El mar, 23-08-2011 a las 19:44 -0600, jorge escribió: Hi Excuse me if I don't understand very well but not allways I understand all the english meaning languaje. But I try ! I did a new topic as I understood your coment. Excuse me if I bother you with this topic but I think it would be important for someone. I red that we can use Sqlite 3 to access .kexi data base file and I installed Sqliteman (front end of Sqlite) and accessed it and made changes and save it. Then I opened with kexi again and they was recognized. Regards, -- Atentamente, Jorge Rodríguez -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi Data Base as Alternative of Base of LO
Hi :) Sorry about my last email! Please ignore my last post in this thread! I am one of those older folks that has a very rigid set of rules that i expect people to magically guess but my rules seem to be different from other people's. Perhaps everyone has their own set of rules and we have to forgive each other for not understanding them because their are too many and many are from opposite view-points. I'm also not great with people which is probably one reason i am in here a lot. Regards and apols from Tom :) From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 24 August, 2011 10:11:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi Data Base as Alternative of Base of LO Hi Jorge Don't worry. Most of us appreciated your posts and still do :) Mailing Lists are really old-fashioned and seem to have developed all sorts of unwritten rules over the decades that new people are supposed to just magically know. People that do know some of those tricks think they are too obvious to be worth writing down and get all upset when you don't conform to those unwritten or obscurely hidden 'rules'. It doesn't help that those older folk often lack social skills and have no idea about etiquette such as being polite, friendly and welcoming. Strangely, people that demand you obey unwritten netiquette fail to observe basic normal etiquette and are also often quite insulting about people that follow rules 'excessively' (sometimes calling them drones). Sometimes the rudeness is due to medical conditions such as slight autism or asperges syndrome or OCD all of which can be helpful to programmers but not to human-to-human contact. We need programmers to help answer questions on the Users List and in all areas of the project. There is a link to netiquette guidelines at the bottom of all messages but it's not as comprehensive as these older folk think. It's also ambiguous and difficult to understand. When you want to start a new topic/thread you are supposed to click on New rather than Reply to and then copypaste the Users List email address into the To field. users@global.libreoffice.org I'm not sure how to start a new thread in Nabble http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/ Hopefully it's easier there. Nabble is a great way to view this mailing list btw. Anyway, the point is, don't worry about criticisms from a couple of people most of us have appreciated your comments so keep up the good work :) Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: jorge jrodrigue...@cpcecr.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 24 August, 2011 5:37:58 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi Data Base as Alternative of Base of LO Excuse me: I read (past) not red (pronunciation) Regards, Jorge Rodríguez _ El mar, 23-08-2011 a las 19:44 -0600, jorge escribió: Hi Excuse me if I don't understand very well but not allways I understand all the english meaning languaje. But I try ! I did a new topic as I understood your coment. Excuse me if I bother you with this topic but I think it would be important for someone. I red that we can use Sqlite 3 to access .kexi data base file and I installed Sqliteman (front end of Sqlite) and accessed it and made changes and save it. Then I opened with kexi again and they was recognized. Regards, -- Atentamente, Jorge Rodríguez -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi Data Base as Alternative of Base of LO
Hi Tom. Always enjoy others comments, especially when no offense is intended. steve On 24/08/11 9:48 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Sorry about my last email! Please ignore my last post in this thread! I am one of those older folks that has a very rigid set of rules that i expect people to magically guess but my rules seem to be different from other people's. Perhaps everyone has their own set of rules and we have to forgive each other for not understanding them because their are too many and many are from opposite view-points. I'm also not great with people which is probably one reason i am in here a lot. Regards and apols from Tom :) From: Tom Daviestomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 24 August, 2011 10:11:39 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi Data Base as Alternative of Base of LO Hi Jorge Don't worry. Most of us appreciated your posts and still do :) Mailing Lists are really old-fashioned and seem to have developed all sorts of unwritten rules over the decades that new people are supposed to just magically know. People that do know some of those tricks think they are too obvious to be worth writing down and get all upset when you don't conform to those unwritten or obscurely hidden 'rules'. It doesn't help that those older folk often lack social skills and have no idea about etiquette such as being polite, friendly and welcoming. Strangely, people that demand you obey unwritten netiquette fail to observe basic normal etiquette and are also often quite insulting about people that follow rules 'excessively' (sometimes calling them drones). Sometimes the rudeness is due to medical conditions such as slight autism or asperges syndrome or OCD all of which can be helpful to programmers but not to human-to-human contact. We need programmers to help answer questions on the Users List and in all areas of the project. There is a link to netiquette guidelines at the bottom of all messages but it's not as comprehensive as these older folk think. It's also ambiguous and difficult to understand. When you want to start a new topic/thread you are supposed to click on New rather than Reply to and then copypaste the Users List email address into the To field. users@global.libreoffice.org I'm not sure how to start a new thread in Nabble http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/nabble-mailing-list-interface/ Hopefully it's easier there. Nabble is a great way to view this mailing list btw. Anyway, the point is, don't worry about criticisms from a couple of people most of us have appreciated your comments so keep up the good work :) Good luck and regards from Tom :) From: jorgejrodrigue...@cpcecr.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 24 August, 2011 5:37:58 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi Data Base as Alternative of Base of LO Excuse me: I read (past) not red (pronunciation) Regards, Jorge Rodríguez _ El mar, 23-08-2011 a las 19:44 -0600, jorge escribió: Hi Excuse me if I don't understand very well but not allways I understand all the english meaning languaje. But I try ! I did a new topic as I understood your coment. Excuse me if I bother you with this topic but I think it would be important for someone. I red that we can use Sqlite 3 to access .kexi data base file and I installed Sqliteman (front end of Sqlite) and accessed it and made changes and save it. Then I opened with kexi again and they was recognized. Regards, -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi
Hi :) Oops, sorry. Good point :) Apols and regards from Tom :) From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 24 August, 2011 1:55:33 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Kexi snip / ... Please start a new thread rather than hijacking the How do I delete unwanted Extensions? thread. Meaning start a *new* email with your subject rather than simply using anothers thread and changing the subject. See these: References: 1313928396037-3272690.p...@n3.nabble.com 878883.76995...@smtp819.mail.ird.yahoo.com 1313933774910-3272836.p...@n3.nabble.com j2s13s$n4s$1...@dough.gmane.org In-Reply-To: j2s13s$n4s$1...@dough.gmane.org That shows that you are replying to posts from other users instead of starting your own thread. Note: those headers may differ depending upon what others are using to read posts in the list. Note to those replying to 'jorge'; please mind the same rather than respond to a thread hijacker, politely ask them to start a new thread. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
