Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: appleworks tests
I didn't see the earlier posts so not sure what exactly the question was, but I have AppleWorks 6 and it can save to .rtf which can then be opened in LO. My version also uses MacLinkPlus (a library of file converters) to save to M$Word format. Note that I haven't installed MacLinkPlus separately so wonder if it's packaged with AppleWorks 6. Can't any docs be saved that way and re-opened in LO or just about anything else? With a quick test on an AW text document fomatted to print envelopes, the conversion worked quite well, keeping page settings intact. -- Carl Paulsen On 5/24/13 3:33 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Errr, having said all that i couldn't open any of the test files sent off-list (at least not in Ubuntu even after changing from utf8 to Apple encoding) so i think it probably IS important to clear some space and install the light-weight Abiword for word-processing. If you really need a spreadsheet program (on holiday??) then Gnumeric is the spreadsheet program that goes with it. However, how many long documents are you likely to write on holiday? It might still be worth sticking with what you have and then copypaste those letters and things into LibreOffice when you get back. Regards from Tom :) From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: McBride dc...@xtra.co.nz; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 24 May 2013, 8:25 Subject: Re: appleworks tests Hi :) If you need to clear a bit of space then try the standard 1. Empty the trash can in your emailing system. With more than 1 account you might need to do each one separately 2. In your web-browser (safari?) empty all the temp files, caches, password stores, cookies err anything like that if you can find out how to easily 3. Uninstall any programs/games you don't enjoy or use anymore 4. Empty your OSes temp files and stuff if you can find out how to easily 5. Empty the rubbish bin You might be amazed how often people have several Gigabytes of stuff in their trash cans and are completely unaware that the stuff in there is still easy to recover. In your case it probably wont create enough room to install LibreOffice and even if it does it's still better to leave that until after your holiday so that you have room for a photo or 2. If you are really keen to move away from those older word-processors then you might like to use AbiWord temporarily. It's very light but still quite powerful although their Mac version is a little old now https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11511/abiword http://www.abisource.com/download/ http://abiword.en.softonic.com/mac I found it awkward because last time i used it i could not get it to use MS formats by default. Nowadays using ODF is less problematic because so many more people can read/write it. So, Abiword is probably a lot easier now as it's default formats are the ones LibreOffice uses by default too. However, i think i would keep using the word-processors you are using at the moment and leave all this until you get back. Regards from Tom :) From: McBride dc...@xtra.co.nz To: laurent alonso alonso.laur...@gmail.com Cc: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013, 23:39 Subject: appleworks tests Thanks to all for looking into my issue so carefully. Actually I don't have libre office, my enquiry was to make sure I can one way or other convert my appleworks. Got an old Mac OS x 10.5.8 and was going to get an airbook or so to go overseas, but if i can't convert my files, it won't be a holiday anymore... I'll have to change it one day though..I can't just download libreoffice for testing as I don't have much more space on my old Mac... Here are some tests if you like: Thanks. Turquoisegrece On May 24, 2013, at 2:09 AM, laurent alonso wrote: Hello, a quick answer as I just see your emails ... Le 22 mai 2013 à 10:25, McBride a écrit : My question was Can libre office read pages/appleworks/ clarissworks? Thanks. Turquoisegrece In fact, in some near future, a filter for Appleworks/Clarisworks text (word processing) files might be included in LibreOffice based on libmwaw ( http://sourceforge.net/p/libmwaw/wiki/Home/ ), see for instance http://docs.libreoffice.org/ . It will not be perfect but it may retrieve the text, most graphics, tables, text-boxes, basic layout, ... . For Pages and for other kinds of Appleworks/Clarisworks documents (spreadsheet, database, ...), I do not know. Note: if you have a Mac with OSX = 10.6, you can find in http://sourceforge.net/projects/libmwaw/files/ a compiled version of libmwaw and mwaw2odt with a crude AppleScript interface: mwawOSX.zip, it takes a supported format file ( and so Appleworks/ClarisWorks files ) and converts it in a .odt files ... Let me know if you try it and find some bugs... --
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: appleworks tests
Hi :) Nicely found and thanks for sharing that. Rtf is a reasonably good middle-step. Even better if it can be done in headless mode to allow a large number of files to be converted all at the same time to avoid having to open each one and then re-save it and close. I'm not entirely certain i understand what is going on but it seems like just waiting for the next branch of LibreOffice, the 4.1.x, means that middle step could be avoided and the full conversion done in LibreOffice in headless mode. I wonder if such filters would be better as Extensions rather than being in the main branch but that's a discussion i'm fairly sure has already happened on the devs lists. There are probably good reasons for making exceptions in specific cases even if it is a rule or something. Regards from Tom :) From: Carl Paulsen carlpaul...@comcast.net To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 24 May 2013, 14:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: appleworks tests I didn't see the earlier posts so not sure what exactly the question was, but I have AppleWorks 6 and it can save to .rtf which can then be opened in LO. My version also uses MacLinkPlus (a library of file converters) to save to M$Word format. Note that I haven't installed MacLinkPlus separately so wonder if it's packaged with AppleWorks 6. Can't any docs be saved that way and re-opened in LO or just about anything else? With a quick test on an AW text document fomatted to print envelopes, the conversion worked quite well, keeping page settings intact. -- Carl Paulsen On 5/24/13 3:33 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) Errr, having said all that i couldn't open any of the test files sent off-list (at least not in Ubuntu even after changing from utf8 to Apple encoding) so i think it probably IS important to clear some space and install the light-weight Abiword for word-processing. If you really need a spreadsheet program (on holiday??) then Gnumeric is the spreadsheet program that goes with it. However, how many long documents are you likely to write on holiday? It might still be worth sticking with what you have and then copypaste those letters and things into LibreOffice when you get back. Regards from Tom :) From: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk To: McBride dc...@xtra.co.nz; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 24 May 2013, 8:25 Subject: Re: appleworks tests Hi :) If you need to clear a bit of space then try the standard 1. Empty the trash can in your emailing system. With more than 1 account you might need to do each one separately 2. In your web-browser (safari?) empty all the temp files, caches, password stores, cookies err anything like that if you can find out how to easily 3. Uninstall any programs/games you don't enjoy or use anymore 4. Empty your OSes temp files and stuff if you can find out how to easily 5. Empty the rubbish bin You might be amazed how often people have several Gigabytes of stuff in their trash cans and are completely unaware that the stuff in there is still easy to recover. In your case it probably wont create enough room to install LibreOffice and even if it does it's still better to leave that until after your holiday so that you have room for a photo or 2. If you are really keen to move away from those older word-processors then you might like to use AbiWord temporarily. It's very light but still quite powerful although their Mac version is a little old now https://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/11511/abiword http://www.abisource.com/download/ http://abiword.en.softonic.com/mac I found it awkward because last time i used it i could not get it to use MS formats by default. Nowadays using ODF is less problematic because so many more people can read/write it. So, Abiword is probably a lot easier now as it's default formats are the ones LibreOffice uses by default too. However, i think i would keep using the word-processors you are using at the moment and leave all this until you get back. Regards from Tom :) From: McBride dc...@xtra.co.nz To: laurent alonso alonso.laur...@gmail.com Cc: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; Alexander Thurgood alex.thurg...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013, 23:39 Subject: appleworks tests Thanks to all for looking into my issue so carefully. Actually I don't have libre office, my enquiry was to make sure I can one way or other convert my appleworks. Got an old Mac OS x 10.5.8 and was going to get an airbook or so to go overseas, but if i can't convert my files, it won't be a holiday anymore... I'll have to change it one day though..I can't just download libreoffice for testing as I don't have much more space on my old Mac... Here are some tests if you like: Thanks. Turquoisegrece On May 24
