Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab Settings

2023-12-28 Thread Brian Barker

At 14:51 28/12/2023 -0500, Charles Meyer wrote:
Brian wrote...  The solution, where you need to use tab stops 
in this way, is to set them specifically where you need them... 


How do you set tabs where you need them? Steps? Screenshots?


Steps? Screenshots? No: rather, documentation!

See "Setting tab stops and indents" in Chapter 4, "Formatting Text", 
of the Writer Guide.

Or see the on-line version:
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.6/en-GB/text/shared/guide/tabs.html .

Or, perhaps better, see "Using tables for page layout" in Chapter 6, 
"Formatting Pages: Advanced", of the Writer Guide.


Brian Barker 




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab Settings

2023-12-28 Thread Alan B
... sent original reply to OP only. My error ...

To modify default tab stops in LO 7.6.x

   - Select Tool>Options
   - Open the "LibreOffice Writer" branch
   - Select the "General" option
   - In the Settings option
  - accept or select the measurement unit
  - then set the tab stop dimension
   - Click "OK"

When I do that with a new blank document, the inverted "T"s under the ruler
change their spacing without requiring the document or the program to be
closed and opened.

There is also a topic in LibreOffice help "Inserting and Editing Tab Stops"
which address other ways to set tab stops

On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 2:39 PM charles meyer 
wrote:

> Brian wrote...  The solution, where you need to use tab stops in this
> way, is to set
> them specifically where you need them... 
>
> How do you set tabs where you need them?
>
> Steps? Screenshots?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Charles.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab Settings

2023-12-27 Thread Brian Barker

At 18:40 27/12/2023 -0500, Charles Meyer wrote:
I want to set tabs so when I press the Tab key the 1st goes over to 
the right a bit to the right then when I press the Tab key again it 
moves the cursor incrementally to the right and so on.


At 00:21 28/12/2023 +, Prof. W. Robert J. Funnell wrote:
... my LibreOffice says 1.25 cm, meaning that I have tab stops set 
every 1.25 cm across the page. This was the default setting. It 
seems to be what you want, ...


At 20:19 27/12/2023 -0500, Charles Meyer wrote:

... 1.25 cm works great.


May I suggest that this is not best practice?

It is completely understandable that default tab stops should be set 
at regular intervals in the application in this way. But users 
wishing to align material in columns often then fall into the habit 
of pressing the Tab key multiple times to move from material in one 
column to the required next column. The number of tab characters 
required will depend on the length of material in each row 
(paragraph) of the earlier column, of course. Everything looks tidy, 
and will be if you choose to print it.


But what happens if you change the font or font size of the material 
(specifically the material in the earlier column)? The extent of the 
earlier material may increase or decrease, taking it beyond a tab 
stop or before a tab stop. Either way, the number of tab characters 
now required will be different, and without further corrective 
editing the later column will no longer be properly aligned. (If you 
don't believe me, you can easily test this.)


Now you will say that you are unlikely to want to make such changes - 
and that may well be true. But there is a bigger problem. If you send 
your text (word processor) document to someone else, the fonts you 
use are not themselves transmitted - only their names and details of 
font size and so on. When the document is rendered on the distant 
system, a different font with the same name may be used, or even a 
different font, chosen according to font substitution rules. In 
either case, the earlier text may take up more or less space, and the 
later column may again not be properly aligned. Your correspondents 
will think you are a poor editor and cannot lay material out neatly.


The solution, where you need to use tab stops in this way, is to set 
them specifically where you need them, so that only one tab character 
is needed between columns, however long or short the text in 
preceding columns may be. That way, your documents are far more 
likely to be rendered appropriately.


An alternative is to use tables, which are a flexible and effective 
formatting tool for columnar material, not restricted to material 
that you would readily think of as a table.


Brian Barker  




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Tab Settings

2023-12-27 Thread W. Robert J. Funnell, Prof.
Charles -

I admit that those instructions are confusing. Can you use the menus to go to 
Tools > Options > LibreOffice Writer > General? There, under Settings, you 
should see 'Measurement unit' and then 'Tab stops'. In that field, my 
LibreOffice says 1.25 cm, meaning that I have tab stops set every 1.25 cm 
across the page.

This was the default setting. It seems to be what you want, and I don't know 
why you don't have it. Are you using a special template file? What paragraph 
style are you using?

- Robert


From: charles meyer 
Sent: December 27, 2023 18:40
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Tab Settings

I see a lot of words on this page  but few make sense to me.

I want to set tabs so when I press the Tab key the 1st goes over to the
right a bit to the right then when I press the Tab key again it moves the
cursor incementaly ot eh right and so on.

Now, when I press the Tab key it moves the cursor about 1/4 of the way
across the page but when I press the Tab key again ity leaps the curso way
overot the right.

I don't see from the above link how to step by step (screenshots help here)
set the Tabs to move incermwentralt.

Thank you.

Charles.

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