Re: [libreoffice-users] Thesaurus is a dictionary of synonyms or real thesaurus

2013-03-06 Thread anne-ology
   Is Roget's Thesaurus 'a real thesaurus used by librarians'?  ;-)

   Just curiously wondering  ;-)
   well, that's my choice in thesauri.



On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 3:12 AM, András Csányi sayusi.a...@sayusi.hu wrote:

Dear All,

 I would like to ask some help regarding thesaurus in Libreoffice. I'm
 a librarian an whenever I hear that there is thesaurus in the
 Libreoffice I cannot decide whether this is a dictionary of the
 synonyms or a real thesaurus used by librarians.

 Here you can read about what the thesaurus is:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesaurus

 Thanks in advance,

 András

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thesaurus is a dictionary of synonyms or real thesaurus

2013-03-04 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 03/04/2013 04:12 AM, András Csányi wrote:

Dear All,

I would like to ask some help regarding thesaurus in Libreoffice. I'm
a librarian an whenever I hear that there is thesaurus in the
Libreoffice I cannot decide whether this is a dictionary of the
synonyms or a real thesaurus used by librarians.

Here you can read about what the thesaurus is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesaurus

Thanks in advance,

András



Here is the definition of thesaurus according to your link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesaurus - A thesaurus is a reference 
work that lists words grouped together according to similarity of 
meaning (containing synonyms and sometimes antonyms), in contrast to a 
dictionary, which contains definitions and pronunciations. 


The one[s] I have installed, with 4.0.0, shows similar terms.  For 
belly it shows several types of nouns and verb replacements for that 
word/term. I also know that there are adjectives and adverbs listed for 
some words. These may be listed by other thesaurus systems as synonym, 
derivatives, kind of, kinds, and parts.  I have even seen the term of 
domain listed under the term relatives.


So, we have the synonyms and other relatives.  As for antonyms, well I 
have not looked at a lot of words in the thesaurus system/file[s] I use, 
but we are dependent on others to create these for us.  Actually, my 
book thesaurus is a Roget's 21st Century Thesaurus and I do not see 
antonyms listed for the words I looked at.


As far as I know, most of the dictionary and thesaurus options are based 
on the WordNet and Hunspell format and offerings.  We rely on these 
free  offerings, and others, to be able to have language aids included 
in LibreOffice.


SO, please tell us what is used by a librarian/library as a reference 
thesaurus.  I would like to know. What do you mean by real thesaurus 
used by librarians.


Also, I use an offline dictionary[definitions] and thesaurus called 
Artha that I use on my Ubuntu/Linux and Windows systems.  This is 
free, like LibreOffice.  I looked up many words using it, over the past 
few years, and I do not remember if it showed and antonyms.






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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thesaurus is a dictionary of synonyms or real thesaurus

2013-03-04 Thread doug

On 03/04/2013 04:12 AM, András Csányi wrote:

Dear All,

I would like to ask some help regarding thesaurus in Libreoffice. I'm
a librarian an whenever I hear that there is thesaurus in the
Libreoffice I cannot decide whether this is a dictionary of the
synonyms or a real thesaurus used by librarians.

Here you can read about what the thesaurus is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesaurus

Thanks in advance,

András


If you want a real thesaurus, install Artha. It's a very good dictionary
(for meanings, not pronunciation) and a real thesaurus.  Its only
fault, as I see it, is that it considers all words very rare--and it's
rarely right on that score!

--doug

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Thesaurus is a dictionary of synonyms or real thesaurus

2013-03-04 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 03/04/2013 11:23 AM, doug wrote:

On 03/04/2013 04:12 AM, András Csányi wrote:

Dear All,

I would like to ask some help regarding thesaurus in Libreoffice. I'm
a librarian an whenever I hear that there is thesaurus in the
Libreoffice I cannot decide whether this is a dictionary of the
synonyms or a real thesaurus used by librarians.

Here you can read about what the thesaurus is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thesaurus

Thanks in advance,

András


If you want a real thesaurus, install Artha. It's a very good dictionary
(for meanings, not pronunciation) and a real thesaurus.  Its only
fault, as I see it, is that it considers all words very rare--and it's
rarely right on that score!

--doug



I do not see many antonyms listed.

I just wonder what is meant by a real thesaurus used by librarians.
To be honest, my printed book thesaurus does not show much more
than LO's thesaurus or Athra's thesaurus information .



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