Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer-Web editing - "a:hover" style removed on saving

2017-08-23 Thread Tim-L--Elmira-NY
The Kompozer for Windows seems to be newer.  My problems using Wine 
comes down to not figuring out how to setup and run Wine properly.


Does anyone like Komodo Edit?
It actually installed [via the Terminal sh command], so it does option up.


On 08/23/2017 04:46 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:

Hi.

On 24/08/17 08:24, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:

Yes, I really miss Kompozer.

I have installed Bluefish and Bluegriffon.

For Quanta - I get a listing for "ubuntu-wallpaper-quantal" so it is 
either a typo or not in Ubuntu 16.04.


I just downloaded SeaMonkey from the updated "project".  So I will 
see how it looks/feels.  The documentation stated I have to run a 
script to open it, so I will have to find the launching system and 
add a launching icon for it.


Also, I have downloaded a few editors that I want to try, when I get 
some time this weekend.


Too bad that I do not use Windows anymore.  I downloaded the newest 
Kompozer version for Windows.



Is there an updated version for windows, will it run under wine.






On 08/22/2017 06:31 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
I was using Kompozer. I might try Quanta or Seamonkey which are in 
my repositories.
I produce content snippets rather than complete pages and LO output 
took a lot of cleaning up when I tried that.

Steve

On 23/08/17 09:39, Philip Jackson wrote:

On 22/08/17 22:30, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:
If other Linux users has some easy to use WYSIWYG editor, let me 
know.

I get on pretty well with Bluefish Editor. I'm currently using v2.2.10
in Ubuntu 16.04 with no problems.
Try http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html

Philip













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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer-Web editing - "a:hover" style removed on saving

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.

On 24/08/17 08:24, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:

Yes, I really miss Kompozer.

I have installed Bluefish and Bluegriffon.

For Quanta - I get a listing for "ubuntu-wallpaper-quantal" so it is 
either a typo or not in Ubuntu 16.04.


I just downloaded SeaMonkey from the updated "project".  So I will see 
how it looks/feels.  The documentation stated I have to run a script 
to open it, so I will have to find the launching system and add a 
launching icon for it.


Also, I have downloaded a few editors that I want to try, when I get 
some time this weekend.


Too bad that I do not use Windows anymore.  I downloaded the newest 
Kompozer version for Windows.

Is there an updated version for windows, will it run under wine.


On 08/22/2017 06:31 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
I was using Kompozer. I might try Quanta or Seamonkey which are in my 
repositories.
I produce content snippets rather than complete pages and LO output 
took a lot of cleaning up when I tried that.

Steve

On 23/08/17 09:39, Philip Jackson wrote:

On 22/08/17 22:30, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:

If other Linux users has some easy to use WYSIWYG editor, let me know.

I get on pretty well with Bluefish Editor. I'm currently using v2.2.10
in Ubuntu 16.04 with no problems.
Try http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html

Philip










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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer-Web editing - "a:hover" style removed on saving

2017-08-23 Thread Tim-L--Elmira-NY

Yes, I really miss Kompozer.

I have installed Bluefish and Bluegriffon.

For Quanta - I get a listing for "ubuntu-wallpaper-quantal" so it is 
either a typo or not in Ubuntu 16.04.


I just downloaded SeaMonkey from the updated "project".  So I will see 
how it looks/feels.  The documentation stated I have to run a script to 
open it, so I will have to find the launching system and add a launching 
icon for it.


Also, I have downloaded a few editors that I want to try, when I get 
some time this weekend.


Too bad that I do not use Windows anymore.  I downloaded the newest 
Kompozer version for Windows.


On 08/22/2017 06:31 PM, Steve Edmonds wrote:
I was using Kompozer. I might try Quanta or Seamonkey which are in my 
repositories.
I produce content snippets rather than complete pages and LO output 
took a lot of cleaning up when I tried that.

Steve

On 23/08/17 09:39, Philip Jackson wrote:

On 22/08/17 22:30, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:

If other Linux users has some easy to use WYSIWYG editor, let me know.

I get on pretty well with Bluefish Editor. I'm currently using v2.2.10
in Ubuntu 16.04 with no problems.
Try http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html

Philip







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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer-Web editing - "a:hover" style removed on saving

2017-08-22 Thread Steve Edmonds
I was using Kompozer. I might try Quanta or Seamonkey which are in my 
repositories.
I produce content snippets rather than complete pages and LO output took 
a lot of cleaning up when I tried that.

Steve

On 23/08/17 09:39, Philip Jackson wrote:

On 22/08/17 22:30, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:

If other Linux users has some easy to use WYSIWYG editor, let me know.

I get on pretty well with Bluefish Editor. I'm currently using v2.2.10
in Ubuntu 16.04 with no problems.
Try http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html

Philip




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer-Web editing - "a:hover" style removed on saving

2017-08-22 Thread Philip Jackson
On 22/08/17 22:30, Tim-L--Elmira-NY wrote:
> 
> If other Linux users has some easy to use WYSIWYG editor, let me know.

I get on pretty well with Bluefish Editor. I'm currently using v2.2.10
in Ubuntu 16.04 with no problems.
Try http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/index.html

Philip

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer-Web editing - "a:hover" style removed on saving

2017-08-22 Thread Tim-L--Elmira-NY

On 08/22/2017 02:55 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Tim,

Tim-L--Elmira-NY schrieb:


I am trying to use Writer for HTML pages.


Inside LibreOffice you have the choice:
(1)Using Writer/Web
(2)Using Writer and save as to HTML
(3)Using Writer and export to XHTML.
All three have a lot of problems.

Which way do you use?


I open an HTML file.
Edit it for content.
Then save it to the original HTML file name.



I use some specific style sheet options.

Every time I add the "a:hover" option to the page's style system.


p { color: #00 }
td p { color: #00 }

a:link {
a:visited {

a:hover {---



Every time I add "a:hover" to this part of the page, after I save the
file, it no longer is listed anymore.

I do have a default "stylesheet.css" and Writer does not like to keep
that as well.


Then you are likely using Writer/Web. You have to stick with the text 
LibreOffice generates, no chance to make own extensions.



I thought the a:hover was a standard style ID with CSS.


Any good way to use Writer as a web page editor and not have every style
you need removed when it is saved?


No.

That was the default declaimer of OpenOffice.org, "Yes, it's a bug but 
unfortunately we have no ressource available to fix or improve the 
HTML component, so that we only can fix crashes and huge regressions."



And the situation has not changed in LibreOffice. There are still 
users like you, who want such component. So if someone has the skills 
and the time to improve it, go on.


I think, you should write your HTML pages in an editor, which has some 
tools for that. You can still open the pages in LibreOffice to use the 
language tools, in case the editor has no support for that.


Kind regards
Regina

The WYSIWYG editor for HTML pages, that I use to use, no longer works 
with the upgraded GUI framework in Ubuntu beyond 14.04[?]. It was 
"Kompozer" and I really miss it.


So, I have been trying various options to create and modify web pages, 
but it is not as easy as I thought it would.


I use "Kate" and "Bluegriffon" for seeing the page's source code, and an 
external browser for checking if the changes work.  They did not have 
the spell checking and other options that a WYSIWYG has.  Bluegriffen 
does have a browser view, but it is not the easiest system to use.  I 
was hoping the Writer/Web would work, but it keeps changing the style 
commands that it is defined before Writer opened it.


If other Linux users has some easy to use WYSIWYG editor, let me know.

It has been a long time since I use much HTML/CSS coding.  It is just 
Use it or Lose it.  I use to create web pages with only a browser and a 
text editor. Now I have to fight bad memory and the web page editing 
systems to get what I want.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer-Web editing - "a:hover" style removed on saving

2017-08-22 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Tim,

Tim-L--Elmira-NY schrieb:


I am trying to use Writer for HTML pages.


Inside LibreOffice you have the choice:
(1)Using Writer/Web
(2)Using Writer and save as to HTML
(3)Using Writer and export to XHTML.
All three have a lot of problems.

Which way do you use?



I use some specific style sheet options.

Every time I add the "a:hover" option to the page's style system.


p { color: #00 }
td p { color: #00 }

a:link {
a:visited {

a:hover {---



Every time I add "a:hover" to this part of the page, after I save the
file, it no longer is listed anymore.

I do have a default "stylesheet.css" and Writer does not like to keep
that as well.


Then you are likely using Writer/Web. You have to stick with the text 
LibreOffice generates, no chance to make own extensions.




Any good way to use Writer as a web page editor and not have every style
you need removed when it is saved?


No.

That was the default declaimer of OpenOffice.org, "Yes, it's a bug but 
unfortunately we have no ressource available to fix or improve the HTML 
component, so that we only can fix crashes and huge regressions."



And the situation has not changed in LibreOffice. There are still users 
like you, who want such component. So if someone has the skills and the 
time to improve it, go on.


I think, you should write your HTML pages in an editor, which has some 
tools for that. You can still open the pages in LibreOffice to use the 
language tools, in case the editor has no support for that.


Kind regards
Regina

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