Re: top and bottom - again. was (Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF.......)
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 10:17:20AM -0500, Roland Hughes wrote: Yes, we still have a few relics of a by-gone era whining and sniveling that one should properly trim like Glenn Beck and Fox News to completely change the meaning of sentences taken out of context so they can add meaning to their own little worlds, but the industry has moved on. From the above you don't seem to understand what trimming is or how it's used. Oh well, thats your privilege. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: top and bottom - again. was (Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF.......)
Mike Scott Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:25:20 -0700 On 01/06/11 18:08, Tom Davies wrote: Hi, At least it seems to be people that have a good relationship with TDF. Good work Florian and all :) Regards from Tom :) From: Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 17:52:33 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli Le 01/06/11 17:20, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : Hi, UPDATE: Sources tell me that Apache has decided to take on OpenOffice. I expect to see the official word come out this week. It may be as early as tomorrow. sjvn--3:42 PM Eastern, May 31, 2011. unquote Well the word is out already, see Florian's post on the announcement mailing list. ASF it is - oh what fun !! Alex This is utterly absurd. I don't mind whether people top or bottom post, although I do have a preference. Deliberately mixing them just to make a point (and this isn't the only example) is plain stupid and /totally/ wrecks any flow of the contained messages. The beauty of these mailing list archives is that in time, the futility of those involved in this bizarre topic will become apparent. As someone wrote, it is hilarious and some people may never recover from total loss of credibility. I was going to plonk the culprit(s), but that would still leave the messy replies. It's easier to unsubscribe; which means I'll be sticking with OOo at least for now, when I was seriously intending to switch. Clock up loss of one potential user, at least for now. And ask how many others are put off by the selfish and thoughtless attitude displayed by some here. Don't know what plonking is but one should not be discouraged to use the software by the foolish comments of others. Haven't used LO much personally but have at least been surprised by the ease of installation. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: top and bottom - again. was (Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF.......)
Don't know what plonking is but one should not be discouraged to use It's an old USENET slangword, meaning adding someone to your killfile. Most USENET newsreaders had a feature of filtering out posts from users who were in blacklist, (a.k.a. killfile), so that noise generated by regular trolls could be avoided (you could not ban people from USENET and deleting posts was also almost impossible - it was one amazingly efficient, reliable and democratic thing). Adding a name to the blacklist was 'dropping someone into the killfile' and 'plonk' is the sound of dropping something into a (metal) trashcan. Zoltan -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: top and bottom - again. was (Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF.......)
True Scott, Back in the 1980s business leaders around the world standardized on top posting leaving the full message intact because each and every message had the possibility of going to someone else when it came back. All of the commercial email readers (not just mickey mouse, but Lotus mail from/by IBM) migrated to top posting by default BECAUSE THAT WAS CHOSEN BY INDUSTRY LEADERS TO BE THE INDUSTRY PRACTICE. Yes, we still have a few relics of a by-gone era whining and sniveling that one should properly trim like Glenn Beck and Fox News to completely change the meaning of sentences taken out of context so they can add meaning to their own little worlds, but the industry has moved on. Top-posting has been the standard since the late 1980s when all of the commercial email readers switched. All of the young IT workers have been pointing and laughing at the sniveling of an aging and dying minority demanding we go back to the standards of the 1970s and 300 baud modems. Back to the standard which was developed when a 1.2Meg removable hard drive pack cost $10,000. Today, at Tiger Direct, you can buy an internal 1TB hard drive for $59...$69 if you miss the current sale. While there may be a few people in the U.S. still on dial up, unless they are unemployed or on a seriously fixed income, there is no excuse for it. For around $60/month Verizon has wireless broadband plans that let you have 5Gig of high speed traffic each month. This is a vast improvement from the HughesNet (formerly DirecPC) satellite service I used to pay $100/month for and endure 100Meg/day limit. Satellite Internet service is available world wide, even in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan. Wireless broadband follows the cell phone markets. While you may not have access to 4G speed and bandwidth, you will have access to speeds far faster than dial up. On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 09:48 +0100, e-letter wrote: Mike Scott Wed, 01 Jun 2011 11:25:20 -0700 On 01/06/11 18:08, Tom Davies wrote: Hi, At least it seems to be people that have a good relationship with TDF. Good work Florian and all :) Regards from Tom :) From: Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 17:52:33 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli Le 01/06/11 17:20, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : Hi, UPDATE: Sources tell me that Apache has decided to take on OpenOffice. I expect to see the official word come out this week. It may be as early as tomorrow. sjvn--3:42 PM Eastern, May 31, 2011. unquote Well the word is out already, see Florian's post on the announcement mailing list. ASF it is - oh what fun !! Alex This is utterly absurd. I don't mind whether people top or bottom post, although I do have a preference. Deliberately mixing them just to make a point (and this isn't the only example) is plain stupid and /totally/ wrecks any flow of the contained messages. The beauty of these mailing list archives is that in time, the futility of those involved in this bizarre topic will become apparent. As someone wrote, it is hilarious and some people may never recover from total loss of credibility. I was going to plonk the culprit(s), but that would still leave the messy replies. It's easier to unsubscribe; which means I'll be sticking with OOo at least for now, when I was seriously intending to switch. Clock up loss of one potential user, at least for now. And ask how many others are put off by the selfish and thoughtless attitude displayed by some here. Don't know what plonking is but one should not be discouraged to use the software by the foolish comments of others. Haven't used LO much personally but have at least been surprised by the ease of installation. -- Roland Hughes, President Logikal Solutions (630)-205-1593 http://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com http://www.infiniteexposure.net No U.S. troops have ever lost their lives defending our ethanol reserves. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
top and bottom - again. was (Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF.......)
On 01/06/11 18:08, Tom Davies wrote: Hi, At least it seems to be people that have a good relationship with TDF. Good work Florian and all :) Regards from Tom :) From: Alexander Thurgoodalex.thurg...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Wed, 1 June, 2011 17:52:33 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: new article - with quote from TDF steering committee member Italo Vignoli Le 01/06/11 17:20, webmaster for Kracked Press Productions a écrit : Hi, UPDATE: Sources tell me that Apache has decided to take on OpenOffice. I expect to see the official word come out this week. It may be as early as tomorrow. sjvn--3:42 PM Eastern, May 31, 2011. unquote Well the word is out already, see Florian's post on the announcement mailing list. ASF it is - oh what fun !! Alex This is utterly absurd. I don't mind whether people top or bottom post, although I do have a preference. Deliberately mixing them just to make a point (and this isn't the only example) is plain stupid and /totally/ wrecks any flow of the contained messages. I was going to plonk the culprit(s), but that would still leave the messy replies. It's easier to unsubscribe; which means I'll be sticking with OOo at least for now, when I was seriously intending to switch. Clock up loss of one potential user, at least for now. And ask how many others are put off by the selfish and thoughtless attitude displayed by some here. When I've cooled down I might be back. It's going to be a long hot summer. -- Mike Scott Harlow, Essex, England -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org In case of problems unsubscribing, write to postmas...@documentfoundation.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
