RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] permissions problem

2006-01-31 Thread Axel-Stéphane SMORGRAV
 
The error log says that the file Apache is trying to read is 
/radar/data/hi3.html. The error log normally will report the absolute file 
system path contrary to the access log that reports the URL path requested. At 
the same time, from the information given, it is my understanding that the URL 
you are trying to get is http://whatever/radar/data/hi3.html (from the 
browser's message about not having permissions to access /radar/data/hi3.html 
on the server). Those two pieces of information put together seem to indicate 
that your DocumentRoot is /.

You also say that documents in the radar directory are served correctly, which 
totally confuses me.

Could you provide the following pieces of information:

1. ServerRoot from httpd.conf
2. DocumentRoot from httpd.conf
3. The path to your httpd.conf file
4. the output of the command ps -ef | grep httpd
5. the output of the command ls -l /var/www/html/radar/data/hi3.html

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From: Dr. Stephen Judd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:50 AM
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] permissions problem


On 2006 Jan 30, at 10:09 PM, Joshua Slive wrote:


On 1/30/06, Dr. Stephen Judd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 2006 Jan 30, at 4:01 PM, Joshua Slive wrote:

On 1/30/06, David Salisbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[Mon Jan 30 15:54:49 2006] [error] (13)Permission denied: 
access to
/radar/data/hi3.html denied


I'm not so sure about your forbidden by rule 
assumption.  I believe if
you were to Deny access to an IP address you get a 
simple permission
denied.
So I wouldn't discount a configuration problem.. maybe 
even a hidden
.htaccess
guy hanging out.


No, in this case, permission denied (errorno=EACCES=13) is 
what the
OS is returning when apache tries to open the file.

Try logging in as the user specified in the User/Group 
directive and
see if you can access the file.
Joshua.


The config file says this:
User apache
Group apache
The straightforward way of doing what you ask for does not work:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# su apache
This account is currently not available.
I don't know exactly what that means or how to get around it,
but I investigated this much further the other day and found 
some
oddities...

I wrote a little script to look into the issue of who the user 
is:
?php
clearstatcache();
$yuzer= $_ENV['USER']; $lognm= $_ENV['LOGNAME'];
print USER= $yuzer, LOGNAME= $lognmbr/\n;
$getperms= fileperms('data')  0777;
print fileperms are: $getperms br/\n;
if ($getperms ==0) print cannot accessbr/\n;
?

When invoked via the web, it apparently runs as root(!) (not 
apache?!)
and gives a message saying that it cannot do a stat:
USER= root, LOGNAME= root
fileperms are: 0
cannot access

When invoked from the command line (in any of several users I 
tried)
it works fine and accesses the file. I'm baffled. Is the root 
user
that it purports to be the same as the usual system root user? 
If so, why
can it not access a file that everyone else can? If not, then 
who is it??


USER/LOGNAME are probably inherited from the parent apache process. 
If you create a file in /tmp, you'll probably find it is owned by
apache.

Yes. You are right about that. That makes the message from the script
all the more confusing. I suppose that it gets invoked as root and then
switches its identity to apache as soon as it can. You'd think that its
identity as root would be gone long before it ran my script, but whatever.


Your problem still sounds very much like SELinux to me.  Are you
absolutely positive you are not running that? 

What exact version of redhat are you running?

I'm quite sure I'm not running SELinux. Here is my evidence:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $MACHTYPE
i686-redhat-linux-gnu
As for version, I dunno. How do I find out?


If not, check the permissions on every file and directory starting
with the one you are trying to access and going all the way up the
tree.

I've done this --and redone it-- because it sure seems like the thing to do.
But no explanation lies in there.
The permissions on the radar directory are these:

drwxr-xr-x  3 radar radargrp 4096 Jan 27 22:21 radar

The permissions on the 

Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] high load average on Apache 1.3 hosting 8000 conc. users forum

2006-01-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Hello,
Can we start first by checking if my httpd.conf is well configured? I have 2 webservers, load balanced by a Foundry switch. both httpd.conf's are:

KeepAlive On
MaxKeepAliveRequests 300
KeepAliveTimeout 15
MinSpareServers 10
MaxSpareServers 30
StartServers 50
MaxClients 250
MaxRequestsPerChild 1000

remember, i usually get 2800+ connections which show on the VBulletin forum around 8000 concurrent users.

Thank you,



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Mainly VBulletin is a php script. I don't serve much static html files.
How can php be tuned to optimize its performance?

 

Usually, any php-forum has an option to make it storing generated pages 
as html-static. In that case,
pages are regenerated only when a user make something new in it. This 
act nearly as a cache.
In that case, your webserver will serves only static pages : your php, 
wich is I think a module
dynamycally linked in your apache, will made is job only when he has to 
do it: not regenerating the
same page again and again. Try to make a ration on how much time php 
regenerate the same page
(how much people are seeing it) and how much times the page is changed 
(someone reply in a forum) ?

(The ration might be worst on the thread list indexes).

After that, you should enable a mod expire on your graphic content 
and/or html pages or delegate

this part on another server.
Try to see if you can enable mod_deflate and or mod_gzip but serving 
only pre-gzipped files: I

remember this was an option but I didn't see it for a long time.

Usually, when looking for an enhanced way to serve static content, you 
should take a look at
http://www.lighttpd.net/ or http://www.acme.com/software/thttpd/ or boa 
or even zeus..
With apache, you can achieve nearly these enhanced performances server 
when playing with
kqueue, poll/epoll, threaded based server. The worst multiplexing model 
being select-prefork one.
I have nothing against apache and I respect it's developper's great work 
but it's too general to

serve high loads web servers.

Continuing to descend low in the system, you should look more carefully 
at your tcp-stacks buffers
but it's depend on your system. But if you don't know what's this, 
forget this asap. ;-)




JB.





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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] extend 20 char limit to 60 in directory listing

2006-01-31 Thread Boyle Owen
 -Original Message-
 From: John Stile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Dienstag, 31. Januar 2006 05:31
 To: users@httpd.apache.org
 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] extend 20 char limit to 60 in directory listing
 
 Problem: When I get a list of all the files in that 
 directory, the file
 names are cut off after 20 characters.  
 
 Question: How/where do I would extend this limit to 60 characters.  I
 haven't found the right way to do this yet.

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_autoindex.html#indexoptions

look at DescriptionWidth.

Rgds,
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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTTP auth and custom login pages

2006-01-31 Thread Boyle Owen
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Dienstag, 31. Januar 2006 00:38
 To: users@httpd.apache.org
 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTTP auth and custom login pages
 
 
 We have a bunch of folders protected by  htaccess valid-user 
 directives,
 but management has decided that they want a nice login page 
 rather than
 the browser prompting for a username and password.
 
 Is it possible to create a form page that then sends the auth
 information to apache via POST or some such? 

That's not how basic auth works. There's no real login or session from the 
server's POV. The browser has to get a 401 Unauthorized before it knows that 
the resource is protected. That's what makes it prompt for a user/pass. Then it 
caches the credentials and submits them with every subsequent request in that 
realm.

To do what the management want, you need to build a session and that means 
cookies and server-sided logic (PHP, CGI, Cocoon etc..)

 I'd hate to have to
 come up with an entirely new authentication scheme.  
 .htaccess files are
 so damn convenient.

To expand on Nick's point about server performance - it's a common 
misconception that Auth directives *have* to go in a .htacess file. In fact, 
they can also go straight into the config in a suitable Directory container. 
Then the config is loaded in memory and it's pretty fast. If the directives are 
in a .htacess file, it has to be opened, read into memory and closed *for every 
request* in that dir (this is in case anything has changed in the file since 
the last request).

Rgds,
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] newbe question - File upload howto

2006-01-31 Thread Oren Gozlan

Hi Guys,

I have a apache server running on Windows server.
Need to add option to upload file to the server and need help ...

I have a form to select the file:
form method='POST' enctype='multipart/form-data' action='fup.cgi'
 File to upload: input type=file name=upfilebr
 input type=submit value=Press to upload the file!
/form

Now .. i need the CGI or somthing to upload the file to c:\temp

Help ..

Oren





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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this list working?

2006-01-31 Thread Boyle Owen
 -Original Message-
 From: Brian E Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Montag, 30. Januar 2006 17:52
 To: users@httpd.apache.org
 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this list working?
 Importance: High
 
 
 Could someone please respond to this email? I have sent 
 several emails out
 with no response (or bounces) neither have I received anything except
 users-digest and I am wondering if this list is working.  If 
 so, it is the
 quietest list I have been on.

I get 40 mails a day so it seems to be working. Your posts are listed in the 
archive (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?a=11383718313r=1w=2). Maybe you 
only subscribed to the digest? Check your settings using the link in the sig, 
ie:

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Owen Boyle
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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] newbe question - File upload howto

2006-01-31 Thread Boyle Owen
 -Original Message-
 From: Oren Gozlan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Dienstag, 31. Januar 2006 11:05
 To: users@httpd.apache.org
 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] newbe question - File upload howto
 
 Hi Guys,
 
 I have a apache server running on Windows server.
 Need to add option to upload file to the server and need help ...
 
 I have a form to select the file:
 form method='POST' enctype='multipart/form-data' action='fup.cgi'
   File to upload: input type=file name=upfilebr
   input type=submit value=Press to upload the file!
 /form
 
 Now .. i need the CGI or somthing to upload the file to c:\temp

1) go to google
2) type in cgi file upload
3) stand well back

Rgds,
Owen Boyle
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] newbe question - File upload howto

2006-01-31 Thread Sean Davis



On 1/31/06 5:05 AM, Oren Gozlan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 
 I have a apache server running on Windows server.
 Need to add option to upload file to the server and need help ...
 
 I have a form to select the file:
 form method='POST' enctype='multipart/form-data' action='fup.cgi'
   File to upload: input type=file name=upfilebr
   input type=submit value=Press to upload the file!
 /form
 
 Now .. i need the CGI or somthing to upload the file to c:\temp

This doesn't really have to do directly with apache server.  It has more to
do with the language that you are using to handle requests.  You will need
to read about how to do uploads in whatever language you are using, be it
php, perl, java, etc.

Sean



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[EMAIL PROTECTED] How to make webservice global

2006-01-31 Thread mohan devanoor
hello all,  i am working on Apache 2.0.55  is there any way to make my webservice global  i.e it works fine in local lan but how to make it accessible from internet
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache 2.0.55 SSL and POST problem

2006-01-31 Thread Stephen Collyer

I have an SSL enabled Apache 2.0.55, with a CGI enabled
Location accessible via SSL.

When I try to execute a POST against this location, I get
a 405 Method not allowed response.

The same directives work fine under a non-SSL enabled server.
There is no LIMIT directive that tries to restrict POST.

I'm getting the following in error_log:


[Mon Jan 30 16:34:47 2006] [error] SSL Re-negotiation in conjunction with POST 
method not supported! hint: try SSLOptions +OptRenegotiate


Does anyone know what may be preventing the POST here ? I can show
more of the appropriate Apache config if necessary. I've google for
this but am currently baffled - am I missing something obvious here ?

--
Regards

Stephen Collyer
Netspinner Ltd

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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] How to make webservice global

2006-01-31 Thread Wagner, Aaron




  
  
  From: mohan devanoor 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 
  07:30To: users@httpd.apache.orgSubject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  How to make webservice global
  
  hello all,
  i am working on Apache 2.0.55
  is there any way to make my webservice global
  i.e it works fine in local lan but how to make it accessible from 
  internet
  
  
  You 
  need to enable Port forwarding on your router. Forward port 80 to the IP 
  of your webserver. So that anyone hitting your outside IP address on 
  port 80 will be forwarded to the internal webserver.
  
  
  
  
  Thanx
  Aaron N 
  Wagner
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  Tools
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] newbe question - File upload howto

2006-01-31 Thread Matt Weston
Oren,

There are lots of scripts available for download on the internet if you look 
hard enough.  We use the Upload Plus utility from PerlscriptsJavaScript.com.  
Our script uploads a file to one of our servers and emails the sender, 
recipient, and our Departmental Supervisor.

Hope this helps.

Matt

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1/31/2006 4:05:27 AM 
Hi Guys,

I have a apache server running on Windows server.
Need to add option to upload file to the server and need help ...

I have a form to select the file:
form method='POST' enctype='multipart/form-data' action='fup.cgi'
  File to upload: input type=file name=upfilebr
  input type=submit value=Press to upload the file!
/form

Now .. i need the CGI or somthing to upload the file to c:\temp

Help ..

Oren





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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AddDefaultCharset and Multiple Encodings

2006-01-31 Thread Joshua Slive
On 1/31/06, Skating Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The AddDefaultCharset directive overrides any encoding
 settings in served content.  Is there a way to force a
 default encoding only when none is explicitly
 indicated in the content?

No, it doesn't.  It set's an HTTP charset only when none exists. 
Perhaps what you are seeing is the fact that browsers will use the
charset specified in the html head when no HTTP charset is present. 
But this has really nothing to do with apache.  I have seen certain
modules that will read the html, extract the charset, and put it in
the http headers.  But I don't think I know of any way to do exactly
what you are looking for.

Joshua.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] permissions problem

2006-01-31 Thread Joshua Slive
On 1/30/06, Dr. Stephen Judd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Your problem still sounds very much like SELinux to me.  Are you
 absolutely positive you are not running that?
 What exact version of redhat are you running?
 I'm quite sure I'm not running SELinux. Here is my evidence:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $MACHTYPE
 i686-redhat-linux-gnuAs for version, I dunno. How do I find out?

SELinux is not a distribution in itself.  It is a set of tools built
on top of a linux distribution.  The symptoms of your problem,
together with the fact that you have no idea what distribution you are
running, still lead me to believe that you are running selinux.  I'm
not a redhat expert, so I can't tell you how to track down your
distribution details.  But information on selinux is linked from the
last question in the FAQ listed here:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/faq/error.html#error.permissiondenied

Joshua.

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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache 2.0.55 SSL and POST problem

2006-01-31 Thread Boyle Owen
 -Original Message-
 From: Stephen Collyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Dienstag, 31. Januar 2006 13:34
 To: Apache Users
 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache 2.0.55 SSL and POST problem
 
 I have an SSL enabled Apache 2.0.55, with a CGI enabled
 Location accessible via SSL.
 
 When I try to execute a POST against this location, I get
 a 405 Method not allowed response.
 
 The same directives work fine under a non-SSL enabled server.
 There is no LIMIT directive that tries to restrict POST.
 
 I'm getting the following in error_log:
 
  [Mon Jan 30 16:34:47 2006] [error] SSL Re-negotiation in 
 conjunction with POST method not supported! hint: try 
 SSLOptions +OptRenegotiate
 
 Does anyone know what may be preventing the POST here ? 

Taking a wild guess, I'd say maybe SSL Re-negotiation in conjunction with POST 
method is not supported... It's a long shot, but you might try putting 
SSLOptions +OptRenegotiate in your config.

Rgds,
Owen Boyle
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 I can show
 more of the appropriate Apache config if necessary. I've google for
 this but am currently baffled - am I missing something obvious here ?

The error message?

 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] make error

2006-01-31 Thread Jonathan Mangin
I'm now trying to install 2.0.55 and receiving the
error below. I'm not using the ksh.

Found newer headers. Will rebuild apr.exp.
-f apr.exp exports.c export_vars.h
/bin/ksh: -f:  not found
make[3]: *** [delete-exports] Error 127
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/srclib/apr'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/srclib/apr'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/srclib'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
# echo $SHELL
/sbin/sh

What is going on?
Thanks,
Jon


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache 2.0.55 SSL and POST problem

2006-01-31 Thread Stephen Collyer

Joe Orton wrote:

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 12:34:27PM +, Stephen Collyer wrote:


I have an SSL enabled Apache 2.0.55, with a CGI enabled
Location accessible via SSL.

When I try to execute a POST against this location, I get
a 405 Method not allowed response.



This is http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12355 - which 
was fixed in 2.2.0; you can apply this patch to 2.0.x releases:


http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=16495


Joe

Thanks - that certainly looks like the problem. I notice that there
are some potential workarounds mentioned on that page. Is there
an official workaround, or should someone with a 2.0 Apache simply
bite the bullet and apply the patch ? (or move to 2.2.0 ?)

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Segmentation fault with FreeBSD 6, Apache 2.2 and MySQL 5

2006-01-31 Thread Josh Endries

Hello,

I'm trying to get 2.2 DB authentication working with my MySQL 5 
server. Everything compiles just fine, and I can load the mod_dbd 
and mod_auth modules and configure the connection and start the 
server. The problem is when I include a query directive; the server 
segfaults when trying to start it. Has anyone gotten a similar setup 
to work, on FreeBSD or not? The docs are hard to follow/bad at 
explaining how to get this stuff up and running...


Thanks,
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache 2.0.55 SSL and POST problem

2006-01-31 Thread Joe Orton
On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 02:42:27PM +, Stephen Collyer wrote:
 Joe Orton wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 12:34:27PM +, Stephen Collyer wrote:
 
 I have an SSL enabled Apache 2.0.55, with a CGI enabled
 Location accessible via SSL.
 
 When I try to execute a POST against this location, I get
 a 405 Method not allowed response.
 
 
 This is http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12355 - which 
 was fixed in 2.2.0; you can apply this patch to 2.0.x releases:
 
 http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=16495
 
 Joe
 
 Thanks - that certainly looks like the problem. I notice that there
 are some potential workarounds mentioned on that page. Is there
 an official workaround, or should someone with a 2.0 Apache simply
 bite the bullet and apply the patch ? (or move to 2.2.0 ?)

Ignore all the patches in the PR other than the one I referenced above - 
that is the same as the code which went into 2.2.  There is no 
official fix for 2.0 unless and until something gets committed, but 
the above patch is as close as you'll get until then.

joe

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache 2.0.55 SSL and POST problem

2006-01-31 Thread Stephen Collyer

Boyle Owen wrote:



Taking a wild guess, I'd say maybe SSL Re-negotiation in conjunction with POST method is not supported... 


:-)


It's a long shot, but you might try putting SSLOptions +OptRenegotiate in 
your config.


Fair comment. However, I am aware of *what* the error
message says, and what it's telling me to do, but I
wanted to know why SSL is screwing up the POST in the first
place. A single line comment in a log file doesn't really
give me enough background.

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Netspinner Ltd

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache 2.0.55 SSL and POST problem

2006-01-31 Thread Stephen Collyer

Joe Orton wrote:

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 02:42:27PM +, Stephen Collyer wrote:


Joe Orton wrote:


On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 12:34:27PM +, Stephen Collyer wrote:



I have an SSL enabled Apache 2.0.55, with a CGI enabled
Location accessible via SSL.

When I try to execute a POST against this location, I get
a 405 Method not allowed response.



This is http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12355 - which 
was fixed in 2.2.0; you can apply this patch to 2.0.x releases:


http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=16495


Joe

Thanks - that certainly looks like the problem. I notice that there
are some potential workarounds mentioned on that page. Is there
an official workaround, or should someone with a 2.0 Apache simply
bite the bullet and apply the patch ? (or move to 2.2.0 ?)



Ignore all the patches in the PR other than the one I referenced above - 
that is the same as the code which went into 2.2.  There is no 
official fix for 2.0 unless and until something gets committed, but 
the above patch is as close as you'll get until then.




Right. Howver, by workaround I was referring to a configuration
change (maybe adding that SSLOptions +OptRenegotiate ?).

I'm unclear as to why the error message suggests a config fix, but
a patch is necessary - I guess the question is, if I can fix the
problem by changing the config (and it's not clear to me yet if I can),
what does the patch buy me ? The closing of a security hole maybe ?

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] make error

2006-01-31 Thread Jonathan Mangin

I've worked around the previous error and am now
getting:

In file included from unixd.h:22,
 from unixd.c:23:
/export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/include/ap_listen.h:62:
syntax error before `extern'
In file included from unixd.c:23:
unixd.h:49: parse error before `get_suexec_identity'
unixd.h:68: parse error before `}'
unixd.h:68: warning: data definition has no type or storage class

I'm using gcc-2.95 on Solaris 8 i86.
Thanks.


- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Mangin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] make error


 I'm now trying to install 2.0.55 and receiving the
 error below. I'm not using the ksh.

 Found newer headers. Will rebuild apr.exp.
 -f apr.exp exports.c export_vars.h
 /bin/ksh: -f:  not found
 make[3]: *** [delete-exports] Error 127
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/srclib/apr'
 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/srclib/apr'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/srclib'
 make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 # echo $SHELL
 /sbin/sh

 What is going on?
 Thanks,
 Jon


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Segmentation fault with FreeBSD 6, Apache 2.2 and MySQL 5

2006-01-31 Thread Nick Kew
On Tuesday 31 January 2006 15:01, Josh Endries wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm trying to get 2.2 DB authentication working with my MySQL 5
 server. Everything compiles just fine, and I can load the mod_dbd
 and mod_auth modules and configure the connection and start the
 server. The problem is when I include a query directive; the server
 segfaults when trying to start it.

What query directive?  And can you get a traceback from the crash
(either run it with -X under gdb or get a coredump)?

-- 
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] extend 20 char limit to 60 in directory listing

2006-01-31 Thread John Stile
On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 20:30 -0800, John Stile wrote:
 Problem: When I get a list of all the files in that directory, the file
 names are cut off after 20 characters.  
 
 Question: How/where do I would extend this limit to 60 characters.  I
 haven't found the right way to do this yet.

I haven't seen any responses to this difficult question, so I add my
research, with the hope that a helpful sole will offer advice.

I do not have an index.html (set by the DirectoryIndex directive), so
mod_dir is not called.

Instead, the page is generated by mod_autoindex (set by the Options
+Indexes directive), and some aspects of the layout are controlled by:
  AddIcon, AddIconByEncoding and AddIconByType.  The FancyIndexing is
set in the IndexOptions global directive, But this is a very deep area,
full of lots of details, and I can't find an  explicit control for the
file name column size.  This feels like a snipe hunt.  HELP!






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RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED] extend 20 char limit to 60 in directory listing

2006-01-31 Thread John Stile
On Tue, 2006-01-31 at 10:49 +0100, Boyle Owen wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: John Stile [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Dienstag, 31. Januar 2006 05:31
  To: users@httpd.apache.org
  Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] extend 20 char limit to 60 in directory listing
  
  Problem: When I get a list of all the files in that 
  directory, the file
  names are cut off after 20 characters.  
  
  Question: How/where do I would extend this limit to 60 characters.  I
  haven't found the right way to do this yet.
 
 http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_autoindex.html#indexoptions
 
 look at DescriptionWidth.
That was very close.  
Thank you for the help.

The magic incantation:  
IndexOptions  NameWidth=60
Reference:
http://www.apachefreaks.com/apache2/mod/mod_autoindex.html#indexoptions:namewidth


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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Precompiled Mod_SSL binaries for Win32 and Apache 1.3

2006-01-31 Thread Jason J. Czerak




Anyone have a link to such a binary? I can't find one at all!






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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] permissions problem

2006-01-31 Thread Dr. Stephen Judd


On 2006 Jan 31, at 9:33 AM, Joshua Slive wrote:


On 1/30/06, Dr. Stephen Judd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Your problem still sounds very much like SELinux to me.  Are you
absolutely positive you are not running that?
What exact version of redhat are you running?
I'm quite sure I'm not running SELinux. Here is my evidence:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $MACHTYPE
i686-redhat-linux-gnuAs for version, I dunno. How do I find out?


SELinux is not a distribution in itself.  It is a set of tools built
on top of a linux distribution.  The symptoms of your problem,
together with the fact that you have no idea what distribution you are
running, still lead me to believe that you are running selinux.


Thanks for the push. Your diagnosis of my particular ignorance appears
correct. I'll post again when I sort  this out.


I'm not a redhat expert, so I can't tell you how to track down your
distribution details.  But information on selinux is linked from the
last question in the FAQ listed here:
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/faq/error.html#error.permissiondenied

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] make error

2006-01-31 Thread Jonathan Mangin
Are these kinds of problems too vague or is
there a better place to ask?


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From: Jonathan Mangin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] make error



 I've worked around the previous error and am now
 getting:

 In file included from unixd.h:22,
  from unixd.c:23:
 /export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/include/ap_listen.h:62:
 syntax error before `extern'
 In file included from unixd.c:23:
 unixd.h:49: parse error before `get_suexec_identity'
 unixd.h:68: parse error before `}'
 unixd.h:68: warning: data definition has no type or storage class

 I'm using gcc-2.95 on Solaris 8 i86.
 Thanks.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Jonathan Mangin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: users@httpd.apache.org
 Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:38 AM
 Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] make error


  I'm now trying to install 2.0.55 and receiving the
  error below. I'm not using the ksh.
 
  Found newer headers. Will rebuild apr.exp.
  -f apr.exp exports.c export_vars.h
  /bin/ksh: -f:  not found
  make[3]: *** [delete-exports] Error 127
  make[3]: Leaving directory
  `/export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/srclib/apr'
  make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[2]: Leaving directory
  `/export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/srclib/apr'
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory
  `/export/home/jman/download/src/apache/httpd-2.0.55/srclib'
  make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  # echo $SHELL
  /sbin/sh
 
  What is going on?
  Thanks,
  Jon
 
 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] using mod_rewrite to get around unknown directive in .htaccess

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Keltz
An Apache module is enabled on our 1.3.34 https server, and not on our 
http server.  The http and https servers serve the same document tree.


One .htaccess file in a users web tree (say, ~user/secure/.htaccess) 
contains directives that will only work on the https server.  When a 
user visits the page on the http tree, they get an Internal Server 
Error message.  This, I would expect.


However, I would like to make it so that when the user tries to view the 
page VIA http, he is automatically redirected to the https page using 
mod_rewrite.  Now, the directives in the .htaccess file exist, and 
everything works.  The problem is that even though I include the rewrite 
directives in the upper level (~user/.htaccess) file that will may 
http://server/~user/secure to https://server/~user/secure, the server 
still tries http://server/~user/secure/.htaccess first, and dies with 
the internal server error, so it does not end up redirecting.


Is there a simple way around this?

Thanks in advance..

Jason.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] using mod_rewrite to get around unknown directive in .htaccess

2006-01-31 Thread Joshua Slive
On 1/31/06, Jason Keltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 An Apache module is enabled on our 1.3.34 https server, and not on our
 http server.  The http and https servers serve the same document tree.

 One .htaccess file in a users web tree (say, ~user/secure/.htaccess)
 contains directives that will only work on the https server.  When a
 user visits the page on the http tree, they get an Internal Server
 Error message.  This, I would expect.

 However, I would like to make it so that when the user tries to view the
 page VIA http, he is automatically redirected to the https page using
 mod_rewrite.  Now, the directives in the .htaccess file exist, and
 everything works.  The problem is that even though I include the rewrite
 directives in the upper level (~user/.htaccess) file that will may
 http://server/~user/secure to https://server/~user/secure, the server
 still tries http://server/~user/secure/.htaccess first, and dies with
 the internal server error, so it does not end up redirecting.

 Is there a simple way around this?

Use httpd.conf to turn off .htacess processing (AllowOverride) in the
relevant directory inside the VirtualHost section for the non-ssl
host.

Joshua.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apache starts then aborts on windows

2006-01-31 Thread Jorge Pinto


Hi !

I have a problem with Apache 2.0.55 i can't understand... all instalation is
working fine on win2003 server, but when a try to load a custom module wrote
in delphi apache starts and seconds after aborts with no messages. When i
start it as a service the events logs show me the following message:

The apache2 service terminated unexpactedly...

My module's size is apromatelly 1,2 Mb and i observed that when i decrease
the module's size apache becomes able to load and execute the module. It
seems a limit...

Is this a configuration problem?

I would appreciate some help !!

Thanks,
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] using mod_rewrite to get around unknown directive in .htaccess

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Keltz

On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Joshua Slive wrote:


On 1/31/06, Jason Keltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

An Apache module is enabled on our 1.3.34 https server, and not on our
http server.  The http and https servers serve the same document tree.

One .htaccess file in a users web tree (say, ~user/secure/.htaccess)
contains directives that will only work on the https server.  When a
user visits the page on the http tree, they get an Internal Server
Error message.  This, I would expect.

However, I would like to make it so that when the user tries to view the
page VIA http, he is automatically redirected to the https page using
mod_rewrite.  Now, the directives in the .htaccess file exist, and
everything works.  The problem is that even though I include the rewrite
directives in the upper level (~user/.htaccess) file that will may
http://server/~user/secure to https://server/~user/secure, the server
still tries http://server/~user/secure/.htaccess first, and dies with
the internal server error, so it does not end up redirecting.

Is there a simple way around this?


Use httpd.conf to turn off .htacess processing (AllowOverride) in the
relevant directory inside the VirtualHost section for the non-ssl
host.


Hi Joshua,

Unfortunately, this won't do it since multiple users can use the 
directives on the https server in any directory.  Is there no 
IgnoreErrors directive in .htaccess?  What I really don't get is that if 
I redefine the error message in the top-level .htaccess, that does indeed 
get read which shows that the server reads the top-level .htaccess before 
reading the bottom-level one.  How come an Error code web page 
redefinition works, but a  mod_rewrite rule does not..


Jas.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Two htpasswd-style files

2006-01-31 Thread Dan Trainor

Hello -

Is it possible for AuthUserFile to accept two arguments, i.e. two 
seperate htpasswd-style files?  Would I throw two arguments at it, or 
have two seperate AuthUserFile directives, pointing to their own 
htpasswd-style files?


Thanks
-dant

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] using mod_rewrite to get around unknown directive in .htaccess

2006-01-31 Thread Joshua Slive
On 1/31/06, Jason Keltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Joshua Slive wrote:

  Use httpd.conf to turn off .htacess processing (AllowOverride) in the
  relevant directory inside the VirtualHost section for the non-ssl
  host.

 Hi Joshua,

 Unfortunately, this won't do it since multiple users can use the
 directives on the https server in any directory.  Is there no
 IgnoreErrors directive in .htaccess?  What I really don't get is that if
 I redefine the error message in the top-level .htaccess, that does indeed
 get read which shows that the server reads the top-level .htaccess before
 reading the bottom-level one.  How come an Error code web page
 redefinition works, but a  mod_rewrite rule does not..

It does work.  It is just that apache must ALSO read the .htaccess
file in the subdirectory, since it may have additional RewriteRules
(or other directives) that will change the parent directory
configuration.  And simply ignoring config-file syntax errors would be
a security problem.  You could, of course, simply create a stub module
that impliments the directive as a no-op.  That would be relatively
easy.

You haven't fully specified your problem, so it is difficult to
suggest solutions.  The obvious one is to use
AccessFileName .htaccess-secure .htaccess
on the ssl site.  Then if anyone is using directives that work only on
the ssl server, tell them to rename their .htaccess to
.htaccess-secure.

Joshua.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two htpasswd-style files

2006-01-31 Thread Joshua Slive
On 1/31/06, Dan Trainor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello -

 Is it possible for AuthUserFile to accept two arguments, i.e. two
 seperate htpasswd-style files?  Would I throw two arguments at it, or
 have two seperate AuthUserFile directives, pointing to their own
 htpasswd-style files?

I believe that this can be done in 2.2 using mod_authn_alias, but I
haven't tried it.  I'm fairly sure its not possible with the stock 1.3
or 2.0 modules.

Joshua.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] using mod_rewrite to get around unknown directive in .htaccess

2006-01-31 Thread Joshua Slive
On 1/31/06, Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 1/31/06, Jason Keltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, Joshua Slive wrote:

   Use httpd.conf to turn off .htacess processing (AllowOverride) in the
   relevant directory inside the VirtualHost section for the non-ssl
   host.
 
  Hi Joshua,
 
  Unfortunately, this won't do it since multiple users can use the
  directives on the https server in any directory.  Is there no
  IgnoreErrors directive in .htaccess?  What I really don't get is that if
  I redefine the error message in the top-level .htaccess, that does indeed
  get read which shows that the server reads the top-level .htaccess before
  reading the bottom-level one.  How come an Error code web page
  redefinition works, but a  mod_rewrite rule does not..

 It does work.  It is just that apache must ALSO read the .htaccess
 file in the subdirectory, since it may have additional RewriteRules
 (or other directives) that will change the parent directory
 configuration.  And simply ignoring config-file syntax errors would be
 a security problem.  You could, of course, simply create a stub module
 that impliments the directive as a no-op.  That would be relatively
 easy.

 You haven't fully specified your problem, so it is difficult to
 suggest solutions.  The obvious one is to use
 AccessFileName .htaccess-secure .htaccess
 on the ssl site.  Then if anyone is using directives that work only on
 the ssl server, tell them to rename their .htaccess to
 .htaccess-secure.

Oh, and a third alternative is to use an
ErrorDocument 500 /cgi-bin/go-to-ssl.cgi
which could then issue the redirect without the client ever seeing the error.

Joshua.

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Two htpasswd-style files

2006-01-31 Thread Dan Trainor

Hi -

Yea, I tested this.  If two AuthUserFile directives are specified, the 
last entry takes precidence.  If two arguements are given to 
AuthUserFile, an internal service error prints.


Thanks for the help, though
-dant


Joshua Slive wrote:

On 1/31/06, Dan Trainor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello -

Is it possible for AuthUserFile to accept two arguments, i.e. two
seperate htpasswd-style files?  Would I throw two arguments at it, or
have two seperate AuthUserFile directives, pointing to their own
htpasswd-style files?



I believe that this can be done in 2.2 using mod_authn_alias, but I
haven't tried it.  I'm fairly sure its not possible with the stock 1.3
or 2.0 modules.

Joshua.



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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Redirect

2006-01-31 Thread Michael Louie Loria
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How do I redirect http://mail.sample.com to http://www.sample.com/mail/src/?

Thanks,

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Precompiled Mod_SSL binaries for Win32 and Apache 1.3

2006-01-31 Thread Emmanuel E



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  Mod_SSL binaries for Win32 and Apache 1.3
  Anyone have a link to such a binary? I can't find one at 
  all!
  


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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Redirect

2006-01-31 Thread Dr. Stephen Judd

Try google on redirect html and take the very first link.
If that's not what you meant, please be more clear.
sj

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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AddDefaultCharset and Multiple Encodings

2006-01-31 Thread Skating Jim
I agree with your distinction between what Apache does
and how the browser responds to it.  Sorry for the
inaccuracy on my part.

The basis for my comment is that the Apache
documentation for AddDefaultCharset says:

This should override any charset specified in the
body of the response via a META  element, though the
exact behavior is often dependent on the user's client
configuration.

Mozilla 1.7.12 and Opera 8.51 give priority to the
HTTP charset encoding and therefore comply with the
should statement in the Apache documentation.  IE6.0
gives priority to the Content-Type meta element in the
HTML head instead.

Unfortunately, taking the advice of the Apache
documentation prevents the more compliant browsers
from correctly rendering the content from a given
server using the AddDefaultCharset directive unless
that same charset encoding is used across the entire
site.  Although Apache is not responsible for this,
compliance with the should statement in its
documentation is.

I think the Apache documentation should not recommend
overriding the meta element, because what's in the
meta element is most likely to be correct.  Does this
make sense or am I still off target?

Jim 


--- Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

(...cut...)

 No, it doesn't.  It set's an HTTP charset only when
 none exists. 
 Perhaps what you are seeing is the fact that
 browsers will use the
 charset specified in the html head when no HTTP
 charset is present. 
 But this has really nothing to do with apache.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cookie problem in IE, but not FF

2006-01-31 Thread Jason Younker


Hello All,

I recently upgraded to the following (on a rhel3 box):
Apache/2.0.55
mod_ssl/2.0.55
OpenSSL/0.9.8
DAV/2
mod_apreq2-20050712/2.1.3-dev
mod_perl/2.0.2 Perl/v5.8.0

And now I find myself stuck for hours on what I am convinced is a 
no-brainer. Here is what I am trying to do ($r below is of course an 
Apache2::RequestRec object):


--start--

my $jar = Apache2::Cookie::Jar-new($r);
$m-out(Jar Status: . $jar-status() .br);

--end--

In Firefox 1.5, this prints: Jar Status: Success

However, in IE 6.0.28, I am getting: Jar Status: Missing input data

Other than that, I don't know what to tell you. I have placed some install 
information below (how I compiled mod_perl, apache, openssl in case it 
helps). I imagine this is an httpd.conf issue, but I have no idea what to 
ask or where to go from here. *Any* help is very, very appreciated!


Jason

# openssl
cd openssl-0.9.8a
./config --prefix=/usr/local/ssl/install 
--openssldir=/usr/local/ssl/install/openssl

make
make install

# Apache2
tar -zxvf httpd-2.2.0.tar.gz
cd httpd-2.2.0
./configure -with-mpm=worker --enable-modules=all --enable-mods-shared=all 
--enable-deflate --enable-ssl --with-ssl=/usr/local/ssl/install/openssl

make
make install


# mod_perl 2
tar -zxvf mod_perl-2.0-current.tar.gz
cd mod_perl-2.0.2
perl Makefile.PL MP_APXS=/usr/local/apache2/bin/apxs
make
make test
make install
ls -l /usr/local/apache2/modules/mod_perl.so



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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AddDefaultCharset and Multiple Encodings

2006-01-31 Thread Octavian Rasnita
From: Skating Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I agree with your distinction between what Apache does
 and how the browser responds to it.  Sorry for the
 inaccuracy on my part.

 The basis for my comment is that the Apache
 documentation for AddDefaultCharset says:

 This should override any charset specified in the
 body of the response via a META  element, though the
 exact behavior is often dependent on the user's client
 configuration.

 Mozilla 1.7.12 and Opera 8.51 give priority to the
 HTTP charset encoding and therefore comply with the
 should statement in the Apache documentation.  IE6.0
 gives priority to the Content-Type meta element in the
 HTML head instead.


Hmm, strange. I have seen that if I use the charset ISO-8859-2 in a meta tag
in an xhtml file, IE 6 uses the ISO-8859-1 charset specified in the HTTP
headers even though I don't want this.

 Unfortunately, taking the advice of the Apache
 documentation prevents the more compliant browsers
 from correctly rendering the content from a given
 server using the AddDefaultCharset directive unless
 that same charset encoding is used across the entire
 site.  Although Apache is not responsible for this,
 compliance with the should statement in its
 documentation is.

 I think the Apache documentation should not recommend
 overriding the meta element, because what's in the
 meta element is most likely to be correct.  Does this
 make sense or am I still off target?


Yes I also think that the prefered charset should be the one specified in
the meta tag, especially in xhtml files, because they are a kind of XML
files and I know that the XML files should be able to have the charset
specified inside.

Teddy


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